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Z-40 denies challenging the Mexican government.
Through at least 10 "narco" banners hung from pedestrian overpasses throughout the city of Nuevo Laredo early Monday morning, Los Zetas distanced themselves from messages hung last week in the same city that directly challenged the power of the Mexican and U.S. governments.
(see: http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2011/12/z-40s-challenge-to-mexico.html)
Written as a personal message from Miguel Angel Trevino Morales, a Nuevo Laredo native with a reputation for extreme violence and alleged second in command of the Zetas criminal organization, the banners reject any connection to last week's messages and state that they have no wish to govern Mexico or maintain a political regime, and deny being terrorists or guerrillas.
The messages also denied any involvement in an Iranian Revolutionary Guard plot to murder the Saudi Arabian Ambassador to the U.S. using Zeta operatives and claimed that Los Zetas are against terrorism.
An Iranian-American and a high level Revolutionary Guard official were charged last October by the U.S. Justice Department with conspiracy to assassinate the Ambassador.
The banners ended with a claim that the men who set fire to the casino in Monterrey that resulted in 52 deaths acted on their own and were not under any orders from superiors.
The messages ended with Los Zetas stressing their respect for the Mexican Government.
Original text of the banners:
A QUIEN CORRESPONDA
Respecto a la manta sobre mi persona MIGUEL ANGEL TREVIÑO MORALES, que reta al gobierno Mexicano y a todas las autoridades y agencias federales de los 2 países. Les aclaro que esa manta No la mande a poner yo, para empezar. Nosotros no gobernamos el país, tampoco tenemos un régimen, no somos terroristas ni guerrilleros. Nosotros nos dedicamos a nuestro trabajo y lo que menos queremos es tener problema con ningún gobierno, ya sea mexicano y mucho menos con el americano.
Esa manta la ha de haber puesto alguna persona sin que hacer, lo que esa persona quiere es contrapuntearme contra el gobierno y que el gobierno piense que soy de la mentalidad.
Sí, yo sé y estoy consciente de que no se puede ni se debe pelear con ningún gobierno. A mí ni por mi mente pasa ponerme con Sansón a las patadas, no tengo ningún motivo para poner esas tonterías en una manta, tampoco pienso que el gobierno crea que alguien con cerebro a aponer esas tonterías y a firmar con su nombre.
También queremos aclarar que el cartel de los Z, no somos terroristas y estamos en contra del terrorismo.
Hace poco en todos los medios decía que la DEA tenía un informante que les comento que nosotros íbamos a hacer un atentado con un embajador. Nosotros no tenemos ni ganas de tener que ver con hechos de esa índole.
Eso no es lo de nosotros ni tenemos esa mentalidad, esa manta la tuvo que haber puesto alguien que lo que quiere lograr es que volteen a verme. No sé quién la haya puesto, ni voy a decir que fue tal grupo o tal persona, porque en realidad no sé quien fue. Pero lo que si es que respeto al gobierno mexicano y americano y me deslindo de estos comentarios estúpidos que hicieron en esa manta y les recalco que no soy de esa mentalidad y el cartel de los Z ni intenta ni va a intentar nunca. Y respecto a lo que paso en el casino royal en Monterrey N. L. Eso no fue ordenado, eso fue una tontería que hicieron esas personas, Bajo su criterio, no fue algo que se haya ordenado. No creo que les haya pasado en su cerebro de pollo el daño que el iban a ocasionar a los familiares de las personas que fallecieron en esos lamentables hechos. Nuestro más sincero pésame y queremos se den cuenta que nosotros no ordenamos eso, Nosotros sabemos que esto va a ocasionar muchos comentario, esos que hicieron esos pendejos no tienen sentido ni razón, ni el problema en el que se iban a meter.
Nuestro respeto al gobierno mexicano”.
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
With respect to the banner under my name, MIGUEL ANGEL TREVIÑO MORALES, that challenges the Mexican government and all the authorities and federal agencies
of both countries. To start with let me clarify that I did not order those banners to be hung. We do not govern this country, nor do we have a regime; we are not terrorists or guerrillas. We are dedicated to our occupation and what we least desire is to have problems with any government, neither Mexico or much less with the U.S.
That message must have been put by someone with nothing better to do; that person wants to set me up against the government and make the government believe that is my mindset.
Yes, I know and am aware that you cannot and should not fight against any government. Never in my right mind would I pick a fight against Samson, I have no motive to put such those stupidness on a message, nor do I think the government believes anybody with a brain would sign their name to such stupidness.
We also want to clarify that the Zeta cartel are not terrorists and we are against terrorism.
Not long ago the media said the DEA had an informant commented that we would make an attempt against the life of an ambassador. We would not now or ever have any such inclination.
That is not who we are or how we think. That messsage must have been put up by someone who wants to ostracize me. I don't know who put it up, nor am I going to say it was this group or that person because in reality I have no idea. But what is true is that I respect the Mexican and the American governments, and I reject those foolish comments on that messsage and I reiterate that I am not of that mindset nor is the Zeta cartel, now or ever. In regards to what happened at the casino royal in Monterrey, Nuevo Leon: those were not our orders, it was stupid what those people did. I don't think those idiost realized the damage they were doing to the families of the victims that died in that regrettable occurence. With our most sincere condolences we want it understood we did not order that. We know this will cause an outcry but what those idiots did was senseless and they did not realize the problems they were getting into.
Our respect to the Mexican government.
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Which cartel is active in Nuevo Laredo other than the Los Zetas ?
ReplyDeleteno que no miedoso!!!! ahora resulta que los marucheros son personas que respetan al govierno y que son muy buenos. si fue el o no el que puso la manta eso a mi no me importa lo que quiere el pueblo es que se acaven laz RATAZZZZZ.
ReplyDeleteFUCK THE ZZZ (-_-).!.
Ala madre el z-40 tiene sentimientos y manda pesames y otra vez como si no saben que el radica en nuevo laredo jaja!
ReplyDeleteZ-40 sounds like a good guy...
ReplyDeleteif da fire dat happen at da casino wasn't ordered by the top leaders y only now do u guys claim it wasn't u guys, da fire happen months ago, u guys should've came out saying it days later. and for u guys giving condolences to da victams mayb u guys stop extorting the ppl and leave dem alone in the first place
ReplyDeleteSo who put the first "manta"? I'd say someone who does not have muscle (probably non-cartel) or the DEA.
ReplyDeleteAny other suggestions?
It was me the one who order the banner.
ReplyDeleteIt's called PSYCHOLOGY idiots!!..
ReplyDelete"Which cartel is active in Nuevo Laredo other than the Los Zetas ?"
ReplyDeleteIn general, Gulf Cartel operatives with substantial support from the Sinaloa Cartel.
Only in Mexico can an asshole sign his name on incriminating evidence, and still be free. But obviously we were all wrong about these guys, and all those kidnappings, beheadings, murder, torture, mass graves, extortion, mayhem, anarchy, and lawlessness must be all for the good of the people. These fuckers terrorize the people of Mexico, therefore these assholes are terrorists.
ReplyDeleteThis article and many more name people who are known to be criminals with various gangs, so if you know who they are you can kill or capture them,except in Mexico. Reminds me of Pakistan,is the Mexican public so sympothetic to the criminal element? Are the authoritys so corrupt or incompitent? How can a gang like the Zs exist,flurish, even grow,expand? Is there something wrong with the Mexican people,do the want peace? This article is interesting drug gangs setting each other up,playing to the public,aided bt the media. Will Mexico ever be a normal country?
ReplyDeleteLooks like the banners were all made by the same person. Just compare this one to the one hung about 2 weeks ago. All were made by the Z's, but now they want to come out of this mess clean. Right Mr. 40?
ReplyDeleteAlways said it was a phoney blanket,something to do with the Pena trouble,came a few days afterwards,take your pick?I can believe they knew about the Casino,or ordered something,but the fuckin clowns who took part,blew it up.Killing pensioners and people playing bingo,even they aren't that fuckin stupid,the guys at the top are there for a reason.The damage to 40 may already be done?No doubt there has been lots of discussion about what to do,let it die down,or respond?Either way,this is the last thing you would want,he's getting way to much publicity,not of his making this time,how long has he got?He got some power there tho.
ReplyDeleteWow. These zetas are really good warm hearted people. I guess i was wrong. That heartfelt message really brought me to tears!.
ReplyDeleteStupid fucking asswipe fitly terrorist, common criminal thug gangbangers who are completely worthless.
A GOOD ZETA IS A DEAD ROTTON IN A HOLE ZETA.
FILTY SONS OF DIRTY STREET WHORES!!
When "legitimate" governments can't control its own employees and whole organizations, for example the ATF, it should be expected that the cartel leaders don't know everything his people do.
ReplyDeleteFuck z-40 if he think I'm going to believe his bullshit good guy story. Why is his people stealing, extorting, and beating up inocent people. I know this for a fact, cuz that's what they doing in my community. If he wants to act as a good guy he needs to start by controlling his people, and stop all the bshit they doing.
ReplyDelete@December 13, 2011 7:49 AM
ReplyDeleteReminds me of Pakistan,is the Mexican public so sympothetic to the criminal element? Are the authoritys so corrupt or incompitent? How can a gang like the Zs exist,flurish, even grow,expand? Is there something wrong with the Mexican people,do the want peace?
What the hell are you talking about? No one is sympathetic towards them. And about the Zetas flourishing, growing or expanding thats not true. This just shows how much you actually know about the Drug war in Mexico. The Zetas are being beaten into submission from all fronts. If not, look up the capture of El Lucky that happen yesterday what do you call that? Or the fact that Z-40 knows he better respect the Mexican government or his ass will be caught or killed too.
printing banners is another good business in mexico right now
ReplyDeleteGuess the DEA told Z40 to STFU and aploygize.....LOL!
ReplyDeleteYou watch, there will be another banner saying that the first two were not Z-40, but this time, for real, it is him and he'll throw a big party and all the cartels to unite and there will be peace in Mexico........one could only hope.
ReplyDeleteWhy the hell would these terrorists even care about their image if it's really them? They do what they want, kill who they want, and keep the drug trade running. Why the PR?
Karma is right around the corner guys.
LA PUENTE CA..
ReplyDeleteWhy do People always go after Zetas????!! Not that I give a Fuck about them or any other Cartel.... But if anyone went down to any part of Mexico that has seen any spark of Violence with a nice Car, your Ass would get Jacked on the Spot!!!! In Sinaloa, Michoacan Nuevo Laredo, Juarez, TJ, etc...... Then there might be a 50/50 chance your Dead, all these Fuckers are the same, they Want an easy target. Apart from the fact that they fight each other Constantly!!!!!
Haaaaa... No k no culo... No k muy chile... Aguantala wey, ves k no es bueno pensar k eres el patron... Te hablo Lazca y t dijo niño pendejo repara ese pedo.. Tus pendejadas nos vas a kemar la plaza... Todo xandar todo ondeado con esa d kristal... Ponte en la bola culero k t va llevar la k t dio gosooo.. El Dos 9
ReplyDeleteCan anybody here spell?
ReplyDeletetrue to that 12:12 what's up with every body picking sides there is only two sides good or bad also a lot of internet sicarios here
ReplyDeleteThe man sounds very reasonable, I am shocked at this articulate narco banner, haven't seen one of these since La Barbie and the CDG 'To Live better' ones.
ReplyDeleteIt's pretty deplorable, if not pathetic, the Zetas are now trying to emulate the Caballeros Templarios with regards to running a "winning the hearts and minds" PR campaign. It's ridiculous, for them to say they have the utmost respect for the gov't or the military, when they are constantly engaging them in battle. Or to say, they care about the Mexican people, when they extort the shit out of them. Bottom line the Zetas or any other DTO should save thier pesos and stop placing these PR narco banners because only a fucking retard would believe or trust what they say.
ReplyDeletewhere do i sign up at
ReplyDeleteTell me what is really going on...This is beyond drugs and strikes into the heart of Mexican politics. Surely there is someone educated enough to explain what is the root cause of all of this.
ReplyDeleteFor the question of which cartel is present in Nuevo Laredo, to my best knowledge it is only the Zetas that is the home city of Z-40 the city has been carved out by them it is impossible for another cartel to come in and take the "plaza" it would take years.
ReplyDeleteI didn't see where he denied it was Zetas that attacked the casino. He said "we" didn't order it and they were dumb asses. Plaza bosses take on crap side jobs and this event was part of conflicts between casino cartels and could have little to do with the Zeta operation. It could have been contract work and Z became the easy scapegoat because the casino cartel leaders are high up semi legitimate people.
ReplyDeleteAlso, by talking about concerns of victims, he is putting himself in the light of a man changing. I hope this is true because he would have to answer to the next act by Zetas against innocent victims.
They may be self sufficient now to a point that they can drop some of the crimes against people. Lets face it, they are not going to be "exterminated" and they are not going away. It would be nice to see a truce and a "New Z" come about. Before Chapo set fire to the Nuevo Laredo plaza, it was peaceful. When the separation from CDG came about, kidnapping, extortion and corruption was a survival reaction.
Is he feeling squeezed or running for politics? anyhow... they should hire a public relations guy and play the robin hood game for awhile ... let shit cool down,stop killing families, if they r true criminals they need to think long term.
ReplyDeleteTo me, it's not unlikely that popular opinion could sway so much in the next year or so that Zetas are as popular as Sinaloa and Chapo. If they keep up this kind of campaigning.
ReplyDelete@December 13, 2011 3:02 PM:
ReplyDelete"Tell me what is really going on...This is beyond drugs and strikes into the heart of Mexican politics. Surely there is someone educated enough to explain what is the root cause of all of this."
"Hear, O ye heavens, and give ear, O earth, for the Lord hath spoken...
Woe to the sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a wicked seed, ungracious children: they have forsaken the Lord...
For what shall I strike you any more, you that increase transgression?...
Your land is desolate, your cities are burnt with fire...
And when you stretch forth your hands, I will turn away my eyes from you: and when you multiply prayer, I will not hear: for your hands are full of blood...
Wash yourselves, be clean, take away the evil of your devices from my eyes, cease to do perversely, Learn to do well: seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge for the fatherless, defend the widow...
And then come, and accuse me, saith the Lord: if your sins be as scarlet, they shall be made as white as snow: and if they be red as crimson, they shall be white as wool...
If you be willing, and will hearken to me, you shall eat the good things of the land...
But if you will not, and will provoke me to wrath: the sword shall devour you because the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it." (all Isaiah 1).
The same in the Jeremiah and the other Divine books in numerous places.
Satisfied, @December 13, 2011 3:02 PM?
@ gerardo
ReplyDeleteI always look foward to reading your reports. If you translated this, we all appreciate your time.
How can we even believe if this or the other banner was by z-40? It's all bullshit. We all knew that the last banner was very likely made by someone who hates los zetas. Capo pointed that out to everyone. If this message is really z-40, then it goes to show how scared he really is of taking on the mexican government head on. He's not stupid enough to declare publicly a war against the government even though his organization is already at war with half of mexico. If it is z-40.....this is some good ass kissing.
But I don't believe this banner either. Too many games are being played. They should just continue killing each other off and everyone should just ignore these stupid banners.
I see the demise of the dirty rotten zetas coming soon.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........
si realmente se pusieran a trabajar como en las epocas de antes mandar jale y no meterse con la comunidad,y no se pusieran a extorcionar a familias trabajadoras,no le inmportaria ala comunidad si existieran los zetas,realmente lo q deven hacer es de dejarse de pendejadas, y ponerse a jalar como un cartel.antes cuando estaba los chachos y los texas avia respeto y aun asi eran rivales,unos no podian cruzar para una linea ylos otros igual siempre se respetaron.no se metian con la comunidad,y trabajaban sin andar con tantas broncas o peleando la plaza de nuevo laredo.dejense de chingaderas y pongansen a jalar realmente.apegar.si pego pego y sino aseguir pegando.aqui andamos y no nos vamos.
ReplyDeleteChapos ppl in michoacan
ReplyDeletehttp://www.historiasdelnarco.com/2011/12/desmantelan-celula-de-gatilleros-del.html
@December 13, 2011 7:49 AM
ReplyDeleteIt took seven years to get Capone. He bragged in media interviews that he 'was only providing what the people want' illegal booze and gambling. It took seven years to catch Pablo Escobar.
You talk like all they have to do is go to the guys house, knock on the door and ask, 'Hey, is Z40 home?' then slap the cuffs on him when he comes to the door in his bath robe.
These guys have private armies protecting them. They have multiple rings of security extending miles around them in every direction. You cant get within 50 miles of them without every eye and ear tracking your every movement. All it takes is 30 seconds of thinking to understand the reality of the situation.
6:54 pm mucha rason usted si sabe. Las discos estaban con ma$&@ pero los de laredo la mayoria andan jodidos desde que llegaron los zetas
ReplyDeletegood guy he will receive a christmas invite
ReplyDeleteYou have to laugh reading it. They are not terrorists? They are the epitome of terrorism.
ReplyDeleteAll Zetas in Nuevo Laredo are protected by diff groups of police officers.. A cousin told me about his meeting with Z-40 and other relatives a couple of weeks ago and he said that Z-40 was a cool\nice guy. So I believe that he would put up these banners just to avoid further problems with their government. Im sure they especially wanted to any problems with the U.S.
ReplyDeleteI know Z-40 personally, hes a good guy
ReplyDelete@December 14, 2011 12:54 AM
ReplyDeleteI believe you.
@12/14/11 YOU TOO! KISS HIS ASS! BESALE EL KULO!
ReplyDeleteZ-40 a good guy? C'mon..so is El Chapo, so I heard and Lazcano donates money to churches..You see this is what's wrong with Mexico. People tend to accept their generosity (drug lords) and say "geez..he is really a nice guy, not that bad.." Fuck..how stupid can you people be? Make no mistake these guys don't give a shit about Mexico..they support the local community to form a buffer/security between them and the gov't forces, nothing more..nothing less! Trevino is very two faced and absolutely cannot be trusted, he is responsible for getting more Zeta leaders captured than the gov't, including a failed attempt to get Lazcano captured! This dumbass talks about respect for the military, yet they found a cache of weapons several months back to include a sniper style rifle and written on the buttstock of the weapon read something to the affect "greetings to the troops from Commandante 40." WTF was that about...Go on believing this bullshit propaganda..remember prior to WW2 Hitler was popular too..
ReplyDeleteThat comment at December 13, 2011 10:40 PM proves my point exactly. Thousands of people in Nuevo Laredo are complicit with the Zetas. The whole lot of them need to be fucking killed or face certain death before they will reconsider. The military should cordon off the city and execute the whole fucking 300,000 of them unless you can prove you're not a Zeta. Otherwise a bullet for you. The bulldoze the whole goddam place - you do this a couple of times and the survivors would think twice before throwing in with the Zetas.
ReplyDeleteTodos y todo son recursos
ReplyDelete40 and Lazca are closer than everyone thinks,just makes good reading,as for the weapon with the greeting on it,think about it,would you sanction shit like that?Some vato who works under him probably did that.Man,these people are at the top for a reason,he must fuckin hate this publicity right now.It will get you hunted for sure,the blanket was a good idea by the Pena faction.
ReplyDelete@12/14/11 10:54am then bulldoze every city in the USA were they have more than 10 drug addicts or kill with a bullet in the back of the head every drug addict in the USA so they will think twice before buying the drug they love. You see? No market, no business.
ReplyDelete@9:42 so bulldoze the every city in the US?
ReplyDeleteIt would be fine with me if they put a bullet in the head of every dope fiend and meth addict in the US. We would wipe out almost all the white trash here - maybe 50% of the population that is good for nothing anyway. Geez, whole states like Missouri and Arkansas would disappear.
ReplyDeletehey guys im from zacatecas the zetas are the biggest shit there is they kiddnap any buddy for money even there own familly members they dont respect anyone thats why a lot of people wants EL CHAPO to take over zacatecas cause he doesnt fuck with pepole he just does his job and keeps everything nice and quiet unlike ZETAS that even if u have a taco stand they will ask for money jus for selling tacos or anything and if you dont pay they'll kill you so anything that Z40 says are pure lies.
ReplyDeleteTo all you stupid people that say z40 is cool, how could you say that after when he has killed women and children, you just as stupid and ignorant ass this idiot z40.
ReplyDeleteFuck all narcos and sicarios, all are cowards. Destroying a beautiful country that already has bad government from years long ago.
ReplyDeleteQue chinguen a su madre TODOS los narcos y sicarios tambien la gente que los ven como buenos. Todos son cobardes mas bajos que la cucarachas. Viva Mexico y su linda gente.
When are they going to finally kill this maggot? Allowing him and Lazca to live is an embarrassment to Mexico!
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