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A total of 2,243 individuals have been murdered in Mexico since December 1st, 2012, according to Mexican news accounts.
A news report posted on the website of Milenio news daily said that the total include soldiers, civilian government officials including police agents, as well as civilians. The toll includes all murders linked to organized crime activity, whether involved with organized crime.
The report, which was a compilation of statistics from the Mexican military forces and civilian security agencies, is the first since September, 2011 that those statistics have been released. In 2011, the government of former president Felipe Calderon ceased to supply those figures because, it was later stated, some of those deaths may have been prejudged by the connection to organized crime activity.
In 2011, cumulatively the total deaths attributable to organized crime stood at 47,515 from December 1st, 2007 to September, 2011. It wasn't until November, 2012 that it was revealed why the statistic compilation were stopped, by Oscar Vega, head of the Mexican Sistema Nacional de Seguridad Publica.
According to the data supplied by the Milenio article, intentional homicides attributable to organized crime declined by 39 cases to 1,068 deaths. Included in those deaths are 30 civilian officials killed in the line of duty and six individuals killed which were "beyond the facts", as the article termed it. That presumably meant those deaths were civilians caught in crossfires.
The statistics claim the number of deaths attributable to armed confrontations between drug gangs declined by 86 percent from December, 2012 to January, 2013. Part of of newly elected Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto's security strategy is to reduce violence.
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| President Enrique Pena Nieto |
The new report has not come without criticism from political opponents. According to a news account posted on the website of El Arsenal news daily, Partido de Democratica Revolucion (PRD) general secretary Alejandro Sanchez Camacho characterized the new statistics as "scary". Sanchez Camacho said Pena's strategy was the same as his predecessor President Calderon, adding he could not give President Pena six years to implement his new security strategy.
The report is a stunning change from previous news reports in Mexican press which indicated the the Mexican federal government was not planning to report all deaths in the new security strategy, or was going to slow the reporting of those deaths. It now appears that part of the new strategy is to present more finely granulated data as to casualties in Mexico's drug war.
December 1st, 2012 was the first day of the term of President Pena. President Pena ran on a platform to transform how the Mexican government deals with its massive organized crime problem.
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| SEGOB Miguel Osorio Chong |
Chris Covert writes Mexican Drug War and national political news for Rantburg.com
It is unbelievable. and it is all over not in one region. I know in Coahuila there is not an official count and they are dropping like flies in places like torreon and Saltillo and being under reported/ and people on the ground say acuna and pn are having killings and balaceras that are not hitting the media.
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What is amazing is that in the US there have been 1687 people by gun violence since Dec 16 th 2012 and we're not in the middle of a drug war
ReplyDeleteDig a little deeper into those stats. Ghetto drug using and dealing people who don't give a damn about laws are the ones committing those murders. Don't be so quick to hop on the gun ban wagon.
DeleteWanna bet? Its just that the u.s has a bigger population and with 300 plus million guns thats just the civilians they cant exactly do it in the open like in mexico because in the u.s you dont know who will shoot u here cud be anybody and they know that but we are in a drug war and it needs to end.just legalize the shit
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ReplyDeletethere is a difference. not to mention the vast difference in population, but in Mx it is only in 8 states not the entire country. in other words about 35-40 Million people produced stranger on stranger intentional homicides of all types, guns, knives suffocation etc.
no all murders the same. look at the homicide rate for a nation. is per 100K, the United states is low as a nation, guns and all, and Mexico is 4 or 5 times higher, but not bad in comparison to other nations, because in most of mexico there is not drug violence
Coauhilla is highly contested...
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ReplyDeleteClearly an anti-gun ownership post. You must have failed basic statistics as a youngster. Chivis handled that pretty well, so Ill leave that alone.
However, you also miss that despite very strict gun control laws, MX has a higher homicide rate. Now, you can make all kinds of excuses, blame America, blame poverty or whatever. But the fact remains: it is never so simple as "yo, lets ban all guns."
Sorry if I mistook your post for something it was not. The US is in the middle of a polarized gun debate and any mention of "gun" violence is taken as a snarky jab at the 2nd Amendment.
So EPN is proud of his numbers because it is a one month analysis dec. 12 Jan 2013 and in that short time murders from DTO's went down 86% compared to the same period last year.Though it appears to be really a high number but Chivis says 'people are dropping like flies and in Coahuila and parts of Nuevo Leon, there is under reporting of casualties. So, this is just propaganda and EPN is all happy about false statistics of a one month period? Even if they seem shockingly high?Is that what this is about? Or is it more about the fact the Mexican gov. Is relesing statistics on body counts that they hadn't been doing for a while? EPN should say, "We have to do better than this because it isn't acceptable" Maybe he should be reminded about Acapulco- those statistics number 2 mist violent in the world befoe he loses that statistic in his new average. I may totally have missed the point here? And if so, sorry!
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ReplyDeleteSo what is the problem?Mexico is fine and dandy,why do we have BB and why are we even discussing Mexico?Lets start discussing?The violence in,,,,Sweden ?
England has more violent deaths than US per 100,000. Check your facts, switzerland is a totally armed citizenry, very few homocide w/ firearm.
DeleteMexico, where the Narcos decide what is published in their area,the govt decides what is reported nationally hundreds of journalist and bloggers Speculate,guess,surmise about what actually is reported,the new cutie-pie president and the PRI will do whatever is going to get the PRI re-elected,and you have got to scratch your head nothing has changed and some 50-60-? whatever thousand people have died WHY what was gained? What has changed? Reminds me of US Fed Underreporting, unimployment,inflation ,Hell Mexicans are following suite don't report violence/crime and it will NOT EXIST?
ReplyDeleteAmerica is run by the same crooks. Just the Chicago Democrat way.
DeleteGet out of your basement at your moms house and for god sakes stop listening to rush limbaugh and shaun hannity
DeleteThen if that is the case Jorge Zambrano shouldn't be talking shit about The zetas cause monterrey is zetalandia and EPN is Zetambien
ReplyDeleteBlame should go to the perps who are commiting the murders , kidnappings , robberies , extortions , ect . If you want be a drug cartel member than your chances of surviving in that business is very slim . Maybe it's better not to report a criminal's death as a murder , just the poor people that were caught in the crossfire . All these no good drug addicts in Mexico and the U.S. are worthless and deserve to end up on a morgue's slab with a toe tag .
ReplyDeleteThis post makes the most sense place blame where blame lies not with the victims...start calling them what they are terrorist to the world...evil exists in all forms in all countries they don t care for anyone but themselves and have little to no respect for life...at the point where a person (for no reason other than terror)puts a person in a barrel and sets it on fire or removes someones head there is no punishment other than death and even that doesnt do justice to the victim...a bad guy kills another bad guy is that murder or help? Not sure how to fix it but i do know it is a shame and disgusting that people have to live in fear and that there are so many places in the world that were meant to be shared and cherished by all cannot be seen for fear of being hurt or killed
DeleteEste puto presidente no es nadie. Devolada se hace de aguas.
ReplyDeleteThis prohibition gets worse and worse. And we cant stand up to the rich people with swords. it saddens me that all this is happening for nothing, the tresury department made drugs illigal whay does that tell you? start blaming these deaths on the u.s its their fault for makim drugs illigal and starting the prohibition. Nixon should be gettin tore up in the after life for this along side regan. only way to stop this is to riot the I'm the streets. we must take our liberty back by force talking has done nothing
ReplyDeleteStarted way before nixon or reagan, drop your leftista propaganda. Che was a murderer too.
DeleteIn La Piedad Michoacan just about a month ago 27 were killed just in one evening and there are loots of killings around. PRI blackout of media.
ReplyDeleteHey banning guns is not the solution criminals will still disobey the laws and aquire them so who does banning gun really affect those law biding citizens that's who now im not saying that's the answer as well there has to be a solution like in the wild west you'll just get hanged then maybe criminals will get the picture.
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ReplyDelete"England has more violent deaths than US per 100,000"
Ohh you fucking idiot"higher violent crime rate,high rate of home invasion"not deaths you fuckin clown.About deaths"The United States has 10.2 gun deaths per 100,000 people, the UK has 0.25.That means the US has 40 times more deaths per head than the UK"
Get it now Einstein,you really need to concentrate,i can see you going to check the figures,go ahead we'll wait,,,
Doesn't take an Einstein to google the FBI stats. U.K. Does have a higher violent crime rate, and the U.S. murder rate is pumped by the inner citer, excess of 100,000 population centers. Inner city drug crime. Einstein, really. Potty mouth.
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