According to the banner text the message is from Z42, whose name is Óscar Omar Treviño Morales, the 39 year old brother of Miguel Treviño Morales. aka Z40, the premier leader of Los Zetas Cartel. ( Juaristi at left)
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Juaristi Do you remember me, I am "42", stop putting nonsense on
Zocalo (I don't really know how to translate the cursing that well in English I am sure readers will help)
The
only thing you are going to achieve is for me to kick your ass. Let's
see if the Governor revives you, he could not revive his nephew, (reference to the murder of Lalo Moreira ,
nonetheless you.
I have let you know through your connections not to
put lies, just put what is, keep fucking around and I will kick your
ass even if you have body guards, you are not made of iron and it is not
a threat, remember that you are a public figure and predictable and I
am not, wherever you go I can kick your ass and it is not a threat, it
is so you'll know. Remember me and if you will keep fucking around and
putting lies in Zocalo, just wait for the punch.... and that who warns
is not a traitor and in announce war there are not deaths"
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fucking egotists and their huge public feelings, how do these guys expect anyone to read these things ever heard of double spacing. one cant possibly read all that shit as they drive under it..especially single spaced documents. if anyone is smart they would get in the business of selling the banner material
ReplyDeleteDouble spacing would make it long as fuck..
Deletethey should adopt the 140 character limit al a twitter.... but... they are too stupid.
DeleteALA VERGA Z42 PINCHI MUGROSO!
ReplyDeleteThis guy sound retarted like derr yo soy 42 derr just look at his retarted ass he probably killed about five manta makers cuz they would correct him fucken moron derr my brother is ferty and I'm ferty too too plus too is ferr( yes I know it two) derr peace Loks
ReplyDeleteWow get a life bro...what are you 13 years old?
DeleteYeah man just turn 13 how d u know and my 13 yrs on earth has been way more Better then all of urs wasted years . Don't that suck for u . Poor poor person you peace Loks the 13 year old
DeleteHahahahhh
DeleteToo bad Z- chancho's statements stand as death threats by firearm veiled in words that he would fight with his fists to "kick his (Juarista) ass" because in a fair fight without guns ole man Juarista could probabaly kick the 42's ass.
ReplyDeletehow is this not a threat?
ReplyDeleteZ40 is alot smarter than people think. When the first and second in command is family you last alot longer. Not to mention all of his cousins nephews in the lower ranks keeping everything in check. You see el chapo is a simple man he's only greedy. But 40 he cares 0 about money, nada. He cares only about power and he only wants the power because he's fucking nuts. No man can fight a man who fears nothing. This guy gets erections from dismembering bodies it's sport to him. He's going nowhere so when this man speaks you either listen with mutual respect or you get ready for your last fight
ReplyDeleteIts not a threat. Its a fact!! Yeh. There
DeleteThe fact that he is fearless doesn't mean that he can not be killed.
DeleteYea its like jeffrey dahmer came back and is leading the zetas.about that kind of mentality
DeleteMen like him don't die I don't know your background but if you've ever been involved in organized crime you would know he's a god and will always be
DeleteHow do you chapo does it. His cartel tops are all usually family or they get married to the others family to make sure of no one snitching on others. N 40 fearz death cuz or else he would come out everyone of those leaders does or being in prison cuz or else they wouldn't be hiding n they would go do dirt not send folks to do it.
DeleteYou sound like you want to be 42's bitch. Quit glorifying these pussies.
DeleteEveryone has been appointed a time to die i mean EVERYONE its just a matter of how and when god sees fit or in their case the devil.he takes lives too.please do not flog me for believing that way.you cant outsmart god
DeleteThis looks like terrorism to me.
ReplyDeleteyes Z-42,show them who's boss....Stratfor seems to think the Los Zetas still expanding,even though all the hits they been dealt....they like Cancer.
ReplyDeleteTell me if im wrong but the reason they keep growing might be because they allow pretty much anyone to join them,from the starving bum in the gutter to a very well paid off government official it seems...how else could they keep growing???
These guyz have been loosing power u mean. They have lost alot of territory in mexico once they lost lazca n once 40 started snitching on everyone n killing his own to rise the ranks. Y do u think taliban left.
DeleteChapo isn't a simple man. He is most likely a genius and he is a natural administrator. That is how he built the most powerful trafficking organization on earth and has survived the narco life since the 1970s. He is also ruthless, you have to be to survive that long, and has been known to go along with his sicarios on hits.
ReplyDeleteZ40 is obviously smart, but he is a savage. He won't last long. The Zs are falling apart since Lazca croaked. Lazca Built the Zetas and they expanded on his strategy. Now they twist in the wind strategically.
Chapo is a simple man, he is not the most powerful it amazes me how people accept these lies lol. Do you know how fucked his health is? El mayo outranks el chapo. El chapo is just the perfect bad guy cardinal blood on his hands good looking Hollywood jail break so that's who they go after, whoever embarrasses authority more. Unless you've been in the game I think it's wrong to make assumptions publicly. I hate z40 I hate chapo my alliances are in apatzingan I'm only putting truth to the wind of lies and assumptions
DeleteAmen Toad couldn't say it better. Zetas have lost a lot of territory sinaloa cartel has majority of the states now. 40 is a traitor to his own so he won't make it at all.
DeleteCouldn't say it any better Toad
Delete@12.41. Chapo did not build his organization. He surely expanded it with the help of very powerful government men. I wouldn't even call him genius. Amado Carrillo had everything established. Anyone of those ruthless thugs in his position could have expanded as the midget has.
DeleteIf that newspaper guy is writing lies, then I think now would be a good time to stop. Wouldn't want to see him starring in one those crazy ass videos that gets posted on here.
ReplyDeleteShorty is a Savage too........yeah he used to go along with his sicario's alright into nightclubs and gun down there enemy's aswell as innocents together.....he is a piece of shit.
ReplyDeleteBeing a savage has nothing to do with lasting, Chapo is a Savage too, Caro Quintero wasn´t and look what happened to him, Ramon Arellano was WAY crazier than this guy´s, Z40 is a street tugh compared to him and then again he survived for more than 20 years in the business.
ReplyDeletearriba los zetasss
ReplyDeleteDe mis huevos?
Delete@ 12:51 am chapo is punk oppurtonnist who built under the PAN adminstration who got in 2000 under the guise they were gonna change Mexico but left it worse than when Presidente Fox took over. Chapo is responsible for ALL the bloodshed in Mexico.... And Z-40 although a homicidal maniac is more humble if you will as far as taking care of you. He enforces his organization but also takes care of families of his troops. While in prison or dead his sicarios are taken care off I heard of this from a reliable source.... Z
ReplyDeleteLol take care of Wat he's a traitor. U honestly think they caught lazca just like that n simple. Taliban was right he snitched on anyone he seen in his way to rise the rank! They lost power already wat they got now cuahila lorado shit if that lorado is being faught still. N plz chapo has been there b4 Fox step ur game up y do u think the people r for chapo has to be a reason n don't give me cuz just bs lies. Cuz obviously there's factz behind it I'm pertty sure people ain't that stupid to believe a druglord maybe cuz he does wat he says n helpz
DeleteChapo is lucky he has the best territory to hide in or he would of been hauled off to prison for 2nd time by now.
ReplyDeleteHe's lucky he gots people to back him up all it takes is one snitch to find him. Not territory. I could be hiding in the best shot in the world n if a snitch dimes me out I'm fuckd
DeleteCuerpo 14 your kinda right but the other anonymous is more on the money.Territory is important,if you know your territory front,ti back,like the palm of your hands and the enemy does not,thats huge!
DeleteThe United States army may relate to this throughout their visit in Vietnam?????
Viet Nam: If you didn't go; then STFU. Don't even talk about it. Thanks. 11B2PV.
DeleteGente que cree que esa manta es de La Letra estan mal esa manta la puso la contra para calentar mas la plaza de Coahuila.
ReplyDeleteEl Zolaco ellos saben lo que hacen se los digo por algunas razones los que andan matando Federales y calentando la plaza en Coahuila y Durango con los Danny's.
Las mantas de La Letra tienen palabras rojas y hasta fotos en unas esa manta es mas falsa que nada comparen las otras mantas de la Letra y veran a que me refiero.
Loo unico que si le atinaron es que el Z42 ahora tomo la posicion del 40 cuando 40 era el 2 abajo de Lazcano.
Doz Fronteras.
These Narco Mantas are fake the ones that are heating up the plaza in Coahuila and Durango are Los Danny's they are fighting agians Federals,Zetas and CDS (Cabreras).
Zetas mantas always have some red words in the manta and some pictures some times.The only thing that the rivals did right was put Z42 on the manta.
Z42 is taking 40 place we are going to see 42 put his name on some future mantas cuz he is now the Hitman Operation Boss for the Z Cartel just like 40 was when he was number 2 under Lazca.
Two Borders
You're smart. They are FAKE.
DeleteFucking z42 hes a pussy. If he puts that. He needs to do it. O wait. He doesnt know how to fight. Just hiding. I hope somebody will kill that basterd.
ReplyDeleteZ42 just said he is hiding(fearful)however he has the ability to strike the weak. Z never says we will destroy the marines or march into mexico city. They are very weak, and must pay huge bribes to stay alive.
ReplyDelete42 Is the enforcement arm of his brother's org. He is considered defacto enforcer for 40. along with enano.
ReplyDeleteatte. T2-28.7-N.V.
42 is Sicario leader and Zs Hierarchy controlling several factions, let's just say he does the bidding for 40 and has several veterans on the org. payroll.
Deleteatte. ThinkTank 28.7 NarcoVision
Wrong.
DeleteWhat kind of veterans; drug rehab veterans?
DeleteI forgot there is another way armies get their recruits: conscription. You have a choice to either fight and maybe live or we will execute you. And with the z its execute you by torture and your family!
ReplyDeleteDamm!!!! I been tellin you42 is the real deal true gangsta damn cuz did you see the size of that manta!!!
ReplyDelete@ Two Borders
ReplyDeleteThese Narco Mantas are fake the ones that are heating up the plaza in Coahuila and Durango are Los Danny's they are fighting agians Federals,Zetas and CDS (Cabreras)"
The only one who mentioned that these mantas may be bullshit,this is a great way to point the finger,and bring heat to who ever you want.When has Z42 ever put his name on a manta?
Wonder if we see the ones who put the manta up starring in their own video.Keep postin your thoughts brr
No seas mamon z42 pinche marano alrato van a caer tu y tu hermano el mata ninos lo unico que les espera es el infierno.
ReplyDeletefuck los zetas and any body thats in.a cartel.that think they have the nutts to kill someone just cause they have a gunn but when its time to fight one on one they runn like pussys the see the Marines cameing hasta le limpian los zapatos fucking putos Arriba La Marina Mexicana
ReplyDeleteToo dumb ass at 444 z are the only cartel that battels the police
ReplyDeleteZ40 extorts money from street clowns, car washers and taco stands. Z40 takes care of his people? He uses them for cannon fodder. Most of them don't live longer than a month. He rarely pays his men. He also has 12 year old 'sicarios.' Most of the Zetas mantas have misspelled words. They hire drooling idiots and retards. Who else is stupid enough to join something that will have you dead in a month?
ReplyDeleteWhen Z40 was washing car windows, Chapo had been going for 20 years already. When Z40 was ten years old, Chapo owned a fleet of Lear Jets. Z40 won't last long. Chapo has been going for almost 40 years.
Chapo is a greedy fuck, like people say. I wouldn't say he is responsible for all the violence though. Most of the stupid violence going on in Mexico comes from the Zetas. Ask any Mexican if Mexico got completely taken over by one gang, who would they rather it be, Chapo or the Z, they would all say Chapo. The Z are animals.
42 don't be a dumb ass stop
ReplyDeleteF##king with people that are not in the
Mexican mob.
Al quds
"fucking egotists and their huge public feelings, how do these guys expect anyone to read these things ever heard of double spacing. one cant possibly read all that shit as they drive under it..especially single spaced documents. if anyone is smart they would get in the business of selling the banner material"
ReplyDeletewere not even in Mexico, and we are reading it...due you need some serious anger management and a little more by way of critical thinking skills...the message was delivered, regardless of single spacing ...what a stupid thing to focus on
"Z42 just said he is hiding(fearful)however he has the ability to strike the weak. Z never says we will destroy the marines or march into mexico city. They are very weak, and must pay huge bribes to stay alive."
ReplyDeletehe didn't say that...what he said to any student of war is that he is fighting a guerilla war and the newspaper is on the side of the government...in a guerilla war, the burden is on the state who has to protect itself from all corners, the guerillas don't, they can strike and move...read some Sun Tzu, then come back talking about what military minds think
@6:00am
ReplyDeleteWho is enano??
Comamdante Enano , brought in by 42 y 40 to command several.cells....atte.T2-28.7-Narcovision
DeleteLet us hope and pray for a day when Mexico will be free from these ridiculous narcobanners. A time when the people can breathe fresh air, laugh together and live in peace. A time when men, women and children can sleep in their beds - without fear of someone knocking on their door in the middle of the night.
ReplyDeleteThese violent fools who write these narcothreats - may God crush them like ants!
Will someone please send a drone strike to take out these so called Z trash. The only person Z40 cares about is himself. Family my ass. What would scumbags really know about family and respecting others. Power...please..that's the most fleeting thing besides your Ego. These turdz shit and piss in their own beds. Rest in Hell.
ReplyDeleteClearly the Z's are less of a force when they are pointing out a few bodyguards that "could" be an issue for a hit. Z are losing territory virtually everywhere and sicarios from cdg and cds are in NL cleansing Zs.
ReplyDeleteThats how everyone started cuz of hunger cuz the Mexican goverment fucks the poor and sucks the rich ppls dicks. no wonder the ppl are trying to get rich by doing such a thing chapo did it and now they cant stop him thats what the Mexican goverment feared El pueblo been strong and powerful and even they do bad shit is all the governments fault
ReplyDeleteThroughout the history of the world, strongmen of all sorts, from rulers to organized crime leaders, would eliminate any and all enemies who they felt stood in their way. They felt no sympathy fort their enemies perceived or otherwise. It is said that many a strongman would state that they would rather have "been feared than loved". Stalin and S. Hussein operated their nations like mafia states. Anybody they would eliminate, had their family and friends go along with them to their deaths. This kind of mentality holds true with Mx. cartel leaders, mafias, secret societies, and governments. Paranoia and power go hand in hand with each other, there is no other way around it.
DeleteThe Mexican Government are pussys. They wont stand up for their own people. Its not very hard to find blatent criminals like the leadership of the cartels. Crooked ass politicians.
ReplyDelete!!!~Z42 just said he is hiding(fearful)however he has the ability to strike the weak. Z never says we will destroy the marines or march into mexico city. They are very weak, and must pay huge bribes to stay alive."
ReplyDeletehe didn't say that...what he said to any student of war is that he is fighting a guerilla war and the newspaper is on the side of the government...in a guerilla war, the burden is on the state who has to protect itself from all corners, the guerillas don't, they can strike and move...read some Sun Tzu, then come back talking about what military minds think!!!
RESPONSE
"GET A BRAIN and you would know this is no guerilla war. This is a terror campaign, a crime campaign, that the z is running inorder to rob and control the masses in certain areas.
The z goal is to terrorize and pillage the masses while paying off the authorities to help and to let them, the z survive.
Number 3 z(at that time laca and 40 were above him) caught 2 years ago spoke of how he lived in fear and hiding in a cargo container.
z leadership are living in fear, hiding from the marines and other cartels. They are weak and only survive because of their $$$ and brainwashed and conscripted youth that they can send on suicide missions.
z40 and z42 have no ideology that would command loyalty from their underlings. They only command loyalty by money and trickery and threats!
No money and z40 and z42 would not last one week.
It's all about $$$! All mafias and criminals are driven by $$$. Z40 and 42 will be ratted out or murdered by other z who want their position and $$$.
ReplyDeleteThis how criminal organizations work! This is how z40 and 42 rose to the top!
They will both be dead soon, and they know it.
Well said..
ReplyDelete@4:24pm yeah...tell that to those CDG members got cut in the Cornfields,those sicario's did not look like young youths.
ReplyDeleteAnd your not all right bout Zee extorting everyone, i think depends on the plaza boss,just saying cause i have heard numerous times where zee have influence and dont extort...or harass innocents.
Oh and your last line,not any of the capo's would last without money....what you think CDS members work for Chapo because they love him.
If it offends you so much ignore it, or get together a militia and march into Mexico otherwise stfu
ReplyDeleteI saw them hanging the one in acuña, it was 4 kids, 15-17 years old. They were hanging it in broad daylight about 7:45 while everyone passed by on their way to school or work. Police were right there in the school zone and did nothing. I know they were just paid to put it up but still...
ReplyDeleteWhere were they in Acuña? Hidalgo or La Presa?
Delete@ 9:39
ReplyDeleteHA HA HA!You are like the monkey at the circus and z is your boss. Ha Ha Ha!
Why don't the z go after carlos slim rather than the old lady selling tacos. Slim has 70billion and the taco woman has 100 pesos.
ReplyDeleteanswer=cowards!
Ese z42: No te llores manco, llorate COJO.
ReplyDeleteComamdante Enano,(Dwarf) he got rap about him check it out (Los Zetas Coahuila),thought Enano was killed in a shootout wasnt he?He was Celsos main man?I dont know,,,,,
ReplyDeleteMexico needs a Cleansing from the top down. a controlled Holocaust is necessary to exterminate the filth. Z-what ever and his pussy lil brother deserve what they have spued. Violence isnt necessary in business, business should be cat and mouse game, that should include innocent citizens.
ReplyDeletepara un nuevo Mexico
@ March 9, 2013 at 9:27 AM
ReplyDeleteAmado carillo was from "el cartel de Juarez". Along with Alfonso Corrral from Herreras Durango, Mexico.Who was his right hand.
@march 9th 4:23pm
DeleteDo some research Bro. Amado is originally from Sinaloa..he controlled all of it before his alleged death.
He was the boss of El Chapo, El Azul, El Mayo, Güerro Palma, among others.
He took over after he killed Rafa Aguilar Felix Guajardo.
Read the book " Los Señores Del Narco"
Viet Nam: If you didn't go; then STFU. Don't even talk about it. Thanks. 11B2PV
ReplyDeleteFuck you and the the helicopter you rode in on,Naaaaaam
Hell yeah! I'm a mexican-american, and proud of it, about 27 young men on my immediate family have also fought in Iraq and Afghanistan, we took some of your friends places in the front lines, because you wouldn't even fight for your ciuntry. And the givernment DID NOT CALL US, WE ALL VOLUNTEER FOR COMBAT DUTY, THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN IS NOT OVER YET, ARE YOU GOING TO JOIN TH E FIGHT? COME ON DO SOMETHING FOR OUR COUNTRY. TH ANKS. 11B2PV.
Delete"I saw them hanging the one in acuña, it was 4 kids, 15-17 years old. They were hanging it in broad daylight about 7:45 while everyone passed by on their way to school or work. Police were right there in the school zone and did nothing. I know they were just paid to put it up but still..."
ReplyDeleteThey should have shot and killed all four of them. The buggers would think twice knowing they were buying a death sentence next time. Mexico needs a LOT more killing.
@3:31 ohhh someone hav hurt feelins, just sick of the whiners talkin shit bout Zee this, Zee that.....most of it is FAKE,made up Bullshit!!
ReplyDeleteI study the Archives of 12 different sites of who been busted from which cartel and that....and came to the conclusion....they all fkn do it!!!
It takes balls & respect to get in homeboy. & they're all down. Ain't nothing gunman change til their government gets their act together and increases employment. Gives them at least hope beyond the fast easy cash to quench their hunger. Ya think?
ReplyDelete"It takes balls & respect to get in homeboy. & they're all down"
ReplyDeleteBrr,most of the people here cant get their head round that,clowns and rats let everyone down.A snide is a snide
I dont care how little cash you have or dont have there is no excuse for killing innocent ppl.i have been homeless with nothing and didnt know where my next meal was coming from but i knew i wasnt about to kill nobody for it.its just that i knew that was a wrong way to go.i get tired of the excuse of im poor so that gives me a right to commit a crime.no it does not and i know cause i have definitely been there before
ReplyDelete11B2PV
ReplyDelete"Hell yeah! I'm a mexican-american, and proud of it, about 27 young men on my immediate family"
Brother,i sincerely aplogize for that remark,i was just being a smartass,it was flippant and unmeant.I have respect for you and your relatives for real.Saludos brother and sincerely i am sorry,and yes,you have done more than i,an anglo,i recognize this.Respects to you.
Well, we went to Nam the help Souh Viet Nam's against the communist north Viet Nam, who were backed up by Russia and Communist China, but it happens in every war, half of the people you want to help don't like you, and look at you as an invader, it was hard but I can assure you everyone of us that set foot in that country did our best, the same way the young men in my family -27- and hundreds of thousands of young soldiers have done their best since the first man in uniform set foot in Iraq and Afghanistan 12 years ago.
DeleteMy hats off to u.i did 3 yrs in the u.s army and im a female.half those young guys talking smack on here would probably never get out of boot camp and i went in when boot camp was a hell of a lot rougher than it is now but you find out what youre made of in there.god bless ya
DeleteZ42 pick on someone your own age and size. I can kick your ass and so what, no one on earth is invincible.
ReplyDeleteSomeone shud get z42 a nutrisystem membership and let him stare at a picture of la chucky hell lose his appetite quick.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with violence, but both, z42 and Juaristi are criminals, one with white gloves and the other one a criminal identified.
ReplyDeleteThis war is their. Juaristi escaped from Tamaulipas cuz the authority was looking him and he refuged in coahuila, all juaristi family are in dark business, so this threat isn't new for them.
11B2PV
ReplyDelete"Hell yeah! I'm a mexican-american, and proud of it,the same way the young men in my family -27"
You shamed me brother thats all,you see all the bullshit about the hate between Mexican-Anglo,i got no hate for you brother,as i said you done more than i for the US.I hope all your young bucks came back safe.
Saludos in your mother tongue brother.
(BORDERLAND BEAT PEOPLE PLEASE READ) Everyone has a lot of shit to talk about Z-40/Z-42 but I bet 90% of the peasants commenting on here would start shaking if one of them were to walk in the room. The lack of understanding and knowing is everywhere.Not on the website but the commentators. YOU 90% don't even have a clue what type of leaders they are or what theyve done to rise up the ranks.
ReplyDeleteSenor 40 is fearless and would not hesitate to kill when the time came, Same as Senor 42 they both posess professional character traits such as:Courage, Commitment, Competence and Integrity. They always look out for the soldiers (Z's)well-being and would share the hardships of combat not be a pussy like everyone thinks and would discipline and reward them when needed. Now that Senor 40 is away, Senor 42 is a big role model for los Zetas he has proven himself a good leader. Leaders must excercise initiative, be resourceful, and take advantage of opportunities on the battlefield that will lead to victory.
Look im not trying to say that im praising them over any other top guys in any other organization. Im saying that everyone hates on them because of what they do but they simply have no clue.
Share this if yall want because its different than all the shittalking...