Good luck locating him
A Mexican judge on Wednesday ordered the arrest of notorious drug lord
Rafael Caro Quintero -- who was freed last week on a technicality -- after
receiving a US extradition request.
US authorities were outraged by the surprise release of Caro Quintero, who
had served just 28 years of a 40-year sentence for the abduction, torture and
killing of a US drug agent in 1985.
The 60-year-old, once a senior figure in a now-defunct cartel, was
convicted of killing the US Drug Enforcement Agency's Enrique Camarena and his
Mexican pilot Alfredo Zavala.
But on August 7 a judge in the western state of Jalisco ordered his
release, and Caro Quintero has gone missing since he left prison.
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| Kikis son, daughter in law and grandsons |
The federal judge accepted the request from the US government, saying Caro
Quintero was wanted for "various offenses" in the state of
California, the Mexican attorney general's office said.
If and when Caro Quintero is detained, US authorities will have 60 days to
submit a formal extradition request, it added.
The US National Security Council had said Sunday it was "deeply
concerned" by Caro Quintero's release and feared another individual
connected to the Camarena killing could also be set free.
Mexican Foreign Minister Jose Antonio Meade downplayed the dispute over the
release, saying it would not affect relations with Washington because both governments
opposed the court ruling, which he said should be "revised."
Caro Quintero was a leading figure in the Guadalajara Cartel. The
now-defunct organization was one of the early Mexican drug mafias that linked
up with Colombian groups to smuggle cocaine and other drugs into the United
States.
Source:Global Post
I wonder where he is..I dont see Chapo getting in contact with him seeing how much heat surrounds him right now. Chapo probably helping hide him though.
ReplyDeleteReally?? Ahahahaha chapos #1 most wanted anywhere ... He always has heat on him wtf you talking about
DeleteWtf wow first you release the basterd, then you want him back to extradite him. The govt. of Mexico needs to make what they want to do with the man who allegedly ordered the murder of kiki Camarena. After 28yrs. of waiting, the U.S. govt., the DEA, and Camarena might finally get what they worked tirelessly to achieve : the extradition of Rafael Caro Quintero to the U.S. inorder to face justice for the murder of American hero Kimi Camerena. It's been a long time coming! God bless Kimi Camarena, an American hero, his family, and the hard working men/women of the DEA.
ReplyDeleteAmerican hero? Fucking drug dealer, even his wife divorced him for being an asshole. Just ask former DEA agent James Kuykendall..Kuykendall and his good old friend ex-fbi agent Raúl Salinas, now Laredo, TX mayor, were giving interviews hoping that if a movie is made they would be the main actors. They both already forgot when in Brownsville, TX they were under investigation for drug related kidnappings back in 1985.They were also good friends with Guillermo González Calderoni, former federal police commander turned DEA and FBI snitch who later were executed outside his lawyer's office in McAllen, TX. So fuck them all.
DeleteYou do know kiki was Mexican right?
Delete12:12 before you call someone a retard , do you're homework dumbass.. The US helps Mexico in many ways.. All that money they gave them to fight the cartels. weapons , Blackhawk and the most important REAL military training.. not to take from the Mexican army, but come on ,you know the US trains alot of them
DeleteYou go sticking your unwanted nose into busineses of others,especially ellegal...expect the ultimate punishment.28yrs is enough,let quintero live out the rest of his life in peace.
ReplyDelete@10:15 p.m he will never have peace no matter where he goes or what he does!!
Delete28 Years is a lot!
Delete@10:15 p.m if america is not wanted then stay out of our country.i hear on the san diego border they are renting hotel rooms for illegals at taxpayer expense.now that is NOT wanted.this man killed someone
DeleteGood luck finding him hes gone and when u do he aint going to belly up like trevinio did its gonna b a gun battle.
ReplyDeleteGood luck finding him. Everyone involved in his release knew that the USA was going to be upset about his release and gave him enough time to disappear and then announce his re arrest and extradition order. He basically paid to break out of prison thru the front door and knew he only had a couple days to play the best hide and seek game of his life.
ReplyDeleteHe is not even in Mexico anymore. Dude has a lot of money and is probably in Spain or Argentina having a good time looking for a house by the beach. What a fucking joke these Mexican"judges" are.
ReplyDeleteHaha this is funny when the US wanted him, then he gets realese... This story seems familiar.. Oh yeah .
ReplyDeletenow I remember , when the US was gonna take Chapo he "ESCAPED"... PINCHE govierno de Mexico no tiene huevos, son una bola de vendidos.. Shit might as well let the old man live the rest of he's pathetic life hiding.. What the US needs to do is STOP BULLSHITTIN and give Chapo 's location up.. Give up Caro or Chapo?? Mexico the next move is yours... It's gonna get soap opera on this Bitch within in the next days or weeks...
Si deveras kieres ke se lo mamen agarrate un pinche rifle como toda la manada de pendejos y ve buscalo tu.. Puto govierno no va ser nada.. Bien ke sabe toda la pinche gente y todabia asi nomas abren el osico sin aser nada por su pueblo esmas toda la raza.. Tu crees ke estos weyes les vale?? mirenos en michoacan asta la pinche tuta.ya no aya onde echar mierda... Saludos a todos los michoacanos
DeleteIs kiki camarena no kimi .and el neto be release in 10. Days
ReplyDeleteIf the Mexican government had any brains at all they would have checked with the USA before releasing him. If Quintero bribed his way out he will most likely turn around and extort his money back from those who benefitted.
ReplyDelete"Y di que te lo dijo un pendejo."
Yo no mate a camarena lo dijo en numero rafa el caro quintero. Busquenlo y den con su pista les doy solo una semana paque me dejen en libertad quiero que enpiesen manana.
ReplyDeleteFuck that week turned into 28 long years haha
Mean while some where back in Mexico I can just imagine someone being scolded, "Te dije que consultaras con los gringos antes de soltarlo pendejo. Me estas ollendo INUTIL!"
ReplyDeleteIm sure Quintero has a huge stash of cash waiting for him. Good luck finding him. He's probably in Argentina or somewhere by now getting plastic surgury.
ReplyDeleteDamn right he has a lot of cash bb ran a pic last week and at the bottom it had all the companies he owns.
DeleteDude th US has never helped Mexico don't be a fucking retard
ReplyDeleteIDGAF Good thing he's out to make them big bill's again hope he unites with chapo and mayo and don't forget el Sr.Azul hope they make it through y k siga la FEDERACION Y C.U Q.E.P.D jefe de jefes El viejon Sr.3
ReplyDelete(10:15pm) are u fuckin serious? 28 years is nowhere close to the amount of time this dirtbag needs to serve. He tortured and killed a federal agent and his mexican pilot. Your a piece of shit if u really think 28yrs was enough prison time when in reality he should have gotten life in prison or death penalty but its just to bad mexico doesnt have the death penalty.
ReplyDeleteHow did he quintero feel after a "close friend" snitched his ass out? How would you feel, put yourself in his shoes? camarena knew damn well what he was getting into and i do not have sympathy for camerena, it is what it is and he got the short stick for his actions against a very powerful cartel boss. You play with you are going to get burned.
DeleteThat's his job dumbass!!!! He is a federal agent!!! Snitch!?!? He's law enforcement he's doing his JOB!!!!! He's not a drug dealer genius he's just pretending to be!!! Got some real morons here
DeleteWhen a federal agents takes on an undercover role they know death is possible. Remeber Joe Pistone. He WAS going to get killed and the fbi pulled him out in time. FBI did not give a crap about an expendable Mexican agent.
DeleteThe US has never helped Mexico? If you think that, you are the biggest fucking retard that has EVER walked on this planet. Despite the TRILLIONS of dollars in aid we have given over the last 20 years alone, Mexican nationals have used the US to work and send money back home. How is that not helping Mexico? Don't be that stupid. And no one saw this coming?
ReplyDelete@1232 They said he ordered and/or had KiKi killed.. He was a US agent so why doesnt Mexico punish those that kill its own agents. DEA is in on the drug trade they major players n the biggest cartel around. Fuck them too.
ReplyDeleteOtra prueba que ésta Drug War es un fracaso, punto. Ni se puede inventar eventos tan ridiculo como pasen en la vida real. Ya basta las gueras [sin termino] de los pinches gringos. ¡Viva la Revolución!
ReplyDeleteIf he had been sentenced to 40 yrs in any other country he'd be free before he served 28 yrs for good behaviour.
ReplyDeleteThe problem is that Mexico has never done.anything help themselves.....and many of those that come to the US develop an entitlement mentality even while being"helped" from the publics coffers here.
ReplyDeleteQuiet a weird situatio because hispanics are some.of the hardest workers I know....
Matt.
EPN=PRI=mexicos cancer,there is no hope for a country were indifference and apathy rule the people,as if their minds are numb,they are sleep at the wheel driving off a cliff,thats what happens when you exchange your vote for a fucken torta(sandwich)and lose your dignity...
ReplyDeleteIf the us is so worried about its agents being killed then keep them the fuck out of mexico! A dea agent holds no jurisdiction in mexico,so y should it have tried as a federal crime? A us agent is nothing but an average joe sout of the border....
ReplyDelete@5:53 a.m well keep the agents out if mexico will keep the cartels out of the u.s and we need to round up all our little punkass streetgangs for selling for them bastards.legalize drugs and regulate it like any other product.i dont use drugs but it seems like it would slow it way down.if the mexicans hate the u.s so bad why the hell do they keep coming here?
Delete@ 12:48 Your 100% correct!! The us should round up all the street gangsters comitting crime IN THE US...Clean up ur own back yard then when its clean and spotless u can offer ur neighbor help cleaning his,until then stay ur ass @ home or dont bitch @ ur neighbor cus his dog bit when u walked into his,after all its his back yard... Im not pro cartel by any means but thats just common sense...
Delete@2:53 p.m i have pitbull terriers they would be in a world of shit if they walk into my yard lol!!!
DeleteYou would be wrong, the US give money in the millions to help training and hire Mexican army and federal police. They also provide intelligence information. So who's retarded now?
ReplyDeletethe us should just pay someone a lot of money to off him while he tries to escape...I am talking about the judge too
ReplyDeleteHA HA!!!!!!!!! MONEY TALKS BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDelete@7:24 a.m money aint gonna talk to god on judgement day and this man is sent to hell.god do take cash or excuses!!!!
Delete"dude" did you just crawl out from under your rock? We ARE helping mexico , what the fuck do you think the MERIDA INITIATIVE is ? we didnt just give them $189 million to go out and buy candy, tha fuck? If your gonna be a dick at least know what your talking about RETARD!
ReplyDeleteDo you want an example of a corrupt justice mdf? The american gov. Do you know why because your border patrol had killed a lot of people on the border and how many of those officers are in jail?? No one so shut the fackk off and do things right on your soil and then tray to do the same with other countries suckkers.
ReplyDelete@7:39 a.m were not coming to your country in droves you guys are coming to ours in herds and costing the taxpayers alot of money.i am not against ppl immigrating here but dammit im sick of ppl bitching about the u.s when they get here.if were so bad fucking go home!!!!
DeleteLol yea Mexico sucks haahaha try bitching in china and your fatass will be sent to a labor camp
DeleteUs government is a joke too if they can't arrest all small time dealers don't u think? Before you point fingers look at your country too.
ReplyDeleteReally ? You are so fuckimg stupid. Mexico gets money every year from the US to fight the cartels. US even trains their military. Moron
ReplyDeleteIf Kiki is an American hero, well Caro is a mexican hero for not tolerating another nation instigating what's not theirs. I don't agree with murdering Kiki but what did you expect? You're not in your backyard.
ReplyDeleteStill crying gringos. Who you think you are? He killed a corrupt DEA agent but you are so blinded by the propaganda that you believe Camarena was a hero. Por favor no mamen. What about the US gov extradite to Mexico the two pieces of shit border patrol agents who killed those kids on the Mexican side? Oh I forgot; that is not important to you Gueros culeros.99% of people on this site don't have a clue on what's happening but open their mouths and talk like they are the shit. Hell! you haven't been in Mexico or speak Spanish but "know" everything from Mexican gov and culture.
ReplyDeleteATTE: Tecla Varela Vergara
He is gonna hook back up with his long time buddy el Azul and most likely council business matters...he will probley play a godfather role with limited power...and no he will not be found anytime soon...the guy is connected in everyway..
ReplyDeleteCaro quintero had build an alliance with the sinaloa cartel several weeks before his liberty through "el azul". I bet this is just going to make the sinaloa cartel more stronger
ReplyDeleteAre u serious u idiot?! We supply them Blackhawks and m16s and not to mention a shitload of training! How do u think the zetas became so badass u dumbass!!! It's not out fault the mexican system is so shitty that they switched sides the first chance they got and took that training to cut off heads and shit!!
ReplyDeleteBe careful what ur next move is Mexico, theres a lot at stake. For all u know US might slow down the border crossing like back in the 80s.
ReplyDeleteRonco
Do we need death penalty here in mexico Yes we do need it. Do we need to check with united states before we release anyone from prison no. That's something united states had to do not mexico. you want quintero or chapo then get them
ReplyDeleteDo you think he is still has millions?
ReplyDelete"More Fast and Furious guns surface at crimes in Mexico"
ReplyDeleteOn this page you also have a few commentaries regarding the post
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57598487/more-fast-and-furious-guns-surface-at-crimes-in-mexico/#postComments
Regarding Bush, Obama, Eric Holder and many other supposed REPRESENTATIVE'S OF THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA let me translate it for yuz all, "MENTIRAS, MENTIRAS, Y MÁS MENTIRAS" (Lies Lies, and MORE LIES).
And if they get caught in their lies then you get the drama "WOW, it's a surprise to me!!" Behind their back you have the Fingers Crossed = "I pretend to tell the truth to the American people (and to the world) but I KNOW I'M LYING ha ha ha!" Vote for me Vote For Me!! The next so called representative of the people who gets voted in carries on from where the other psychopath left off and an agenda continues and take a look at America with its ongoing setting up of a Police State MILITARIZING THE COUNTRY ¿and this is the fulfilling of the America Dream? Looking more and more like a nightmare ...
So true but Americans are so blind to see it. Even as their being stripped of their freedom piece by piece. All in the name of protection and "SECURITY".... Dumb asses
DeleteThey all had there hands wet with Kiki's Blood, Guadalajara Cartel, Mexican Politicians, DFC(Mexico version of the CIA),CIA, FBI, & DEA. They were all in it together, training the Paramilitaries from Guatemala, in a Quintero Ranch., They killed 100,000's Guatemalans, thanks to the US Covert Operation which supplied the training and guns, which incidentally was paid by smuggling Cocaine. Hell they even made a convicted drug smuggler Oli North a fucking hero. This was during the Red Scare Era. Unfortunately for Kiki he was to good for his own good. Collateral Damage!!!!!
ReplyDeleteLook people Quintero was released to put order in Jalisco beacause the c.j.n.g are some stupid idiots who had it all but then they decided they wanted to be major and now there losing it all to the Golfos and the Knight Templars ... Quintero is good friends with el Azul and el mayo y el chapo whats coming to Jalisco Michoacan Nayarit and zacatecas is an extermination of zetas and beltran leyvas the U.s goberment allready knew that Quinteros was going to be released come on people did u guys forget that the U.s was the first ones to be bought by quintero ??? There both corrupt mexico and the american goberment all they want is MONEY!!!!!
ReplyDeleteMexico needs the death penalty? The have the death penalty and exercise it more than we do here in the US. Criminals in Mexico must die at the hands of Law Enforcement ten times over what they do here. its just talked about.
ReplyDeleteThe United States of Hypocrites.
ReplyDeleteCase in point: The CIA has dealt drugs to fund illegal activities for decades; making the DEA a complete waste of taxpayer dollars, now, and for the last 42 YEARS. The American government has its head up its a$$ & the world [in its entirety] has seen it for what it is, los Estados Unidos de las Hypocritas.
American agent[s] who get caught up in the mierda south of the border should expect to die. No sympathy for idiots who can't find a meaningful job. Es más, dope is still cheap and easy to get... after 42 YEARS of Drug War. ¡Gracias a los Pendejos Gringos del Norte! CIA, DEA, FBI, DHS, ICE, CBP, NSA, et al. Really? The USA has become nothing more than a Police State based upon lies, so it's no wonder people root for the cartels.
I agree! Lol
Delete@8:51 am. Yeah right, the USA don't supply shit. We trade with your politicians @ the White House, they give helicopters and weapons, and we give them tons of high quality cocaine, marijuana and methods, because the one produced in the USA ain't worth a shit. You need to train your hillbillies on meth production, because any 8 year old boy down the border can do that better.
ReplyDeleteAmericans have no business in any other country doing this kind of crap. If you hang out in a barber shop sooner or later, you'll get a haircut !
ReplyDeleteLet Mexico do what it does, it's their right ! and if our country doesn't agree with it, then intercept at the border.
Yeah like the girl that tourter her priest and killsd him and iam not sure but she serve 26 year think .and now she's free so she could have a new start that's what they put on the newspaper..that they r giving her a secound chance ..bullshit
DeleteFuk the u.s catch me if u can!!!!!! U.s is more corrupt than wat u people think kikki was in the business to make money he was one of them before all u talk get ur story straight viva raffa!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteEl senor quintero tiene muncho poder y muncho dinero horita se esta riendo
ReplyDeleteThe training of los Zetas in the U.S is a myth, no real evidence can be found. I have read a lot about los Zetas and many of them didn't even had more than four years in the service.
ReplyDeleteYour an idiot im a usmc 0311 infantry rifleman and i can tell u for a fact that the zetas were trained by the US. I have read after action reports of the original zetas and holy shit!!! This was text book US infantry training. I read one report of an ambush the zetas used on the Feds using pre designated fields of fire and even air support !!!! They then used radio brevity codes when they e gressed from their firing positions!!!
ReplyDeleteThe US will never admit to training the zetas because of the bad press but trust me The original zetas all had us/Israeli advanced infantry training
That is fast. They'll get him because the US already started a "retaliation" these past few weeks and those in power knew this.
ReplyDeleteSend the drones if they're serious!
ReplyDeleteTHE END OF THE SNITCHALOA CARTEL!!! The U.S. will turn up the heat on Mexico to get Caro Quintero. If they don't , they will start hunting down El Sapo and El Mayo till they either set Caro Quintero up or someone kills him. I am a Rafael Caro Quintero cheerleader. This guy is a true narco capo. He didn't extort nobody, just went about his business in drug dealing. Only killed those that were in the business and those that fucked with his...
ReplyDeleteHahahaha the end of sinaloa cartel keep dreaming its
DeleteNot happening anytime soon
@8:51
ReplyDeleteYes, we even supply the cartels with weapons so they can kill themselves and bunch of innocent people.
Eric Holder should be extradited to Mexico for supplying all those weapons. It clearly say upon crossing into Mexico that crossing firearms in Mexico is a federal crime and Eric Holder put more guns in that country than anyone else.
Remember that mexico supplies drugs..money and oil to the united states..so please dont act like white monkeys who are holy..lol
ReplyDeleteThe United States of Hypocrites. Jajaja!! Yeah right. Mexico with it's POLITICAL ELITE that keeps its people in perpetual 3rd-world poverty.
ReplyDeletePENDEJO
Haha that's funny because in a few years the U.S. of A will be beyond third world. The dollar is collapsing but morons are to stupid to accept it.
Delete"camarena knew damn well what he was getting into and i do not have sympathy for camerena"... Sounds like you are for a Narco state when someone trying to make Mexico a better place and help rid the place of a killer. Mexico does need capital punishment and also allow it's citizens to arm themslves as well. They can't protect themselves from the Narcos or the police and at times also the government. What a sad place to live for some great people and culture.
ReplyDeletethat does not surprise me.He paid the gov., both u.s and mexico alot and now he is free to die the last days out of jail. Money=power thats for shure.
ReplyDeleteIn this day and age, anybody can be tracked!!!! Everybody on this website can be tracked if somebody really wanted to track you. Big Brother has their hands in every single technological equipment produced in the last 10 years. Google, Yahoo,FaceBook, ect..Pre paid phones can also be tracked. Voice recognition technology is getting better and better each day. So- if somebody really wanted Quintero, they could totally get him- He is paying the right people off or ?Some shaddy ass things are going on....
ReplyDeleteWell, Mexico is sliding into what Liberia and Somolia have become. Instead of names like General Butt naked they are called Nacho guy or something like this. 100% bullshit.
ReplyDelete@1:08
ReplyDeleteWhat do Mexican elites and their suppression of the indigenous have to do with American hypocrisy? Why is it OK only for the American elite [ie, politicians] to partake in hookers and drugs, when it is painfully obvious the entire country wants in? Ask Eliot Spitzer. Who the fu<# made hookers and drugs illegal?
Para ver quien es el más pendejo, vete al espejo.
Its NOT OK for u.s politicians to do those things and alot of the american public is absolutely fed up with washingtons shenanigans!!! I.e anthony weiner.its not so much the hooker thing as it is that the bastards lie about it.personally im sick of banks and big business corruption more than i am than them being with hookers!!!
DeleteSo Caro Quintero kills a DEA agent 28 years ago, and the DEA is pissed because he got released?? So what about all the weapons the DEA and ATF allowed to be sent to Mexico in their stupid fast and furious weapons sting?? What about all the innocent lives that were lost? How many innocent kids, women and men got caught in the crossfire and killed because these agents lost track of the weapons? Why don't they send these agents responsible to Mexico? Camarena knew exactly the risk he took when he infiltrated the cartel. Take your loss and move on. One death of agent who knew exactly the risk he was taking, does not make up for all the pain and suffering this War against drugs has created.
ReplyDeleteYou are right, how about to put holder in jail for fast and furious? americans know where he is why dont catch him?? Sorry I forgot he is american and americans are always innocent fukk that.
Delete@ 8/15/2016 4;36 PM, come on bro! They didn't catch Clayton Williams, the owner of the Claydesta Bank in Midland-Odesa, TX, and owner of all the oil fields in west Texas, a very good friend of George W Bush, who helped him to get away, when Clayton Williams was running for governor of Texas in the early 1980's his son was caught in Pennsylvania with almost 1/2 ton of cocaine, and the federales let him go, at that time George W's mother Barbara Bush and Clayton Williams were the mayor stockholders of the Houston Bank, and the oil producers credit union, Dick Cheney was vicepresident of Halliburton, in Houston, TX also. What a bunch of mafioso mother fuckers.
DeleteMost ppl in america were totally against that fast&furious stunt and frankly most ppl here didnt even know about it till it was over and it blew up in their face.what about all the ppl on the u.s side of the border on their own land who constantly get terrorized by narcos and thugs? Some of them forced to leave their own property on the u.s aide
Deleteinvestigate fast and furious,under other names,the program started under George W Bush, to help out the gun manufacturers,gun dealers and the gun lobby get some of that narcs drug money,if it continued under Obama and Holder,maybe they knew and maybe they didn't, and maybe bush didn't know either,what is clear is the weapons business got their cut of the blueberry pie
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ReplyDeleteMexicans hide one of the biggest genocides in history.
When the Indians of Mexico and Central America revolted. The Spanish brought in slaves from Africa. After Black men and women completed all the work on the beautiful churches and projects the THEN Mexicans started systematically killing all African slaves. Some escaped only to be enslaved again in Texas etc. One famous probable black in Mexico was "José María Morelos" At one time African slaves out numbered Spanish 100 to 1. So the Mexicans then just killed them. Look it up if you can find it.
So when you see a beautiful aqueduct or Cathederal in Mexico thank a slaved black man for building it.
No, you're wrong, there are a lot of blacks in México, but these are the ones that were left in Cuba, when the ignorant conquistadores mistook Cuba with Florida, some of them later emigrated to México, the same way thousands of Amish and Catholics emigrated to Mexico between 1845 and 1901 to escape the white supremacist bullshit, so; fuck off. The USA economy was built over black blood, you stupid sob. Go back to school.
DeleteU.s economy was developed after they stole the land from the indians and killed alot of them off cause they got in their way at the time!!!
DeleteVicente guerrero,fought for independence of Mexico,helped achieve the independence and was a president of Mexico then got assassinated. be was part African,nobody cared back then, problem was he was too good for Mexico and too bad for somebody else!
DeleteMy God! Black slaves working in Mexico? This guy needs to go back to 1st grade. What's next, the USA independence war from Mexico? Or the Mexican confederate army vs the Union? You guys keep telling this tales about a country you don't know. Is entertaining.
DeleteATTE:El Chico Damian
@8/15/13 2:52
DeleteYou are wrong sir about the history of Mexico. All the beautiful historical buildings that were built were buildings by the native peoples of Mexico. The Spanish brought slaves to Central, South America and Caribbean and were instrumental in the development of those colonies/later nations' economy/culture; however, Mexico was not one of those colonies. The same goes for some other former colonies that Spain at one time controlled. The native peoples' of Mexico were the pool labor the Spaniards utilized as their slaves, whose descendants have played a integral role in building the modern 20/21st century superpower U.S.A. The indigenous people of Mexico have built U.S.A. as well as Mexico. The number of Africans slaves brought by the Spanish to their colonies, for example Cuba, DR, Colombia, pales in comparison to the number of slaves brought to the Americas by the Brithish/England and Portuguese. Population increases of black people to Latin American in recent years has had more to do with economic immigration, like for the building of the Panamal Canal, than Spanish slavery.
Is Mexico even their own country any more? It looks like the cartels and the US are running the show.
ReplyDeleteMexico owes all of it's nalgas to foreign powers all over the world,the paragon of corruption they have for government has mortgaged the country so badly the creditors just come and take whatever they want,Mexico should refuse to pay! and let "them"try and get their money from the lapdogs they gave it to.
Delete@6:05 am, and the US owes three times it's nalgas to the world's largest maruchan factory; China, right? What the USA is going to do now, borrow another 60 trillion dollars from China just to have Caro Quintero extradited?
DeleteI know there are "big words" in the federal indictment against Caro Quintero, but you people should try reading it or have someone read it to you.
ReplyDeleteYou seem to think it is solely on the murder charge. How stupid can you guys be, arguing a point that isn't reality?
Ijole, el cuate me dijo PENDEJO y lo dejaron hacerlo; pero negaron mi respuesta. No es justo. ¿Porque?
ReplyDeletePor pendejo! why ask?
DeleteWhat happen in las vegas still in vegas? So what happen in mexico still in mexico. For everybody is known that the u.s. just want money not apply the law I got a recomendation for americans. Work for it mdf dont be lazy like you history says.
ReplyDeleteThe powers that be want re$$pe¢¢t,we need a list of the greediest of the greedy that are always causing problems for evrybody else
DeleteAir support? You ain't even a Marine, you liar, are you trying to imply that zetas fly kites or what.
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ReplyDeletehttp://www.latinamericanstudies.org/19-century/Negro-Resistance-Colonial-Mexico.pdf
Here we go again....the failed "war on drugs," what a joke. This is the same guy from the other Kiki thread who says the DEA has the highest "honor and respectability" of all federal agencies. Elements of our government are responsible for more drugs shipped into this country than all the Mexican DTO's combined. Until we get our own corruption under control we have no right to criticize. What's good for the goose...
ReplyDeleteare you trying to say the CIA is the biggest drug trafficker?
Deletethere are bigger criminals than the DEA,boy, make sure and find some other letters on your soup and pin the exact accusations with the right agencies,you will make so many people so happy!
Deletewhere is mexico?aint it a town in ohio?
ReplyDeleteI just can't believe that you don't remember where you, your parents, your grand parents, great grandparents, great-great grandparents were born, if you swam across the Rio Grande just 1 year ago. Hey Pancho, by the way, did you already get a green - card?
Deleteclose to tampico,illinois
Deletesomeone asked me to post the merida initiative on another post. here is what I posted as my answer I think it is relevant here as well:
ReplyDeleteMERIDA INITIATIVE is way to long to do a post, but I will give a little overview:
Merida Initiative gave Mexico:
A. 1.4 Billon Dollars for equipment
B. Judicial, certain military, and police training
C. Maritime and border strengthening and training (Mexico has no border patrol)
D. Vetting The Merida Initiative provides for the vetting of Mexican police officers -minimize cash transfers to Mexico and Central America, and secure communications so law enforcement agencies can share data without the risk of criminals eavesdropping
there is more, like intelligence technology but EPN came in and reneged on agreements that benefited the US such as access to Mexican intelligence, so the playing field is contentious now.
Other interesting facts are RICO and other ACTS that allow for a broad range of crimes that require Mexico to extradite narcos.
AND THE US CAN go into Mexico and forcibly abduct under the Supreme Court‟s ruling in Alvarez-Machain.
Alvarez is the doctor who worked for the Guadalajara cartel and revived Kiki for further torture and interrogation. The doctor was abducted in Mexico and taken to the US, he was acquitted because of lack of evidence. he was deported and he sued the US government for unlawfully taking him. It went to the supreme court and the ruling was in favor of the US and against the doctor.
This gave way for possible abductions of narcos but because Mexico until EPN had cooperated in extraditions there has not been a need....until now.
It remains to be seen what happens, it is feasible US intelligence will find Caro Quintero for example and abduct him.
They have given intelligence to mexico resulting in every big capture taking place there, they had a good relationship with Mexico under Calderon, things are very different now and perhaps different tactics will be enforced. but it could be the opening of Pandora's box.
The President of Mexico is just an image to the public controlled by the mafia theres a monopoly behind these successes everything well organized even U.S. government forms part of it supplying weapons military training and technology's.Everyone's profits from it .Money is the Root of Evil.Everyone's corrupt && there willing to do anything to get rich Everyone want that piece of cake
ReplyDelete@ 12:54 pm the first ever zetas wer gafes why the fuck would they need training from anyonr else??
ReplyDeleteNo, no, no don't try to pin those intelligence failures on the US. Mexico has always sent its so-called reliable enforcement for training in the US and they betrayed our trust. The state police, the federales, were already cartel associates when the went to the US for training. Your people betrayed your Mexican nation when the sent trash to the US for training.
ReplyDeleteI don't think it's likely Rafael Caro Quintero will be recaptured soon. Have we all forgotten that he was close friends with El Azul? My guess is he's being provided aid/shelter by the El Azul faction of the Sinaloa Cartel.
ReplyDeleteWhat else is there to say except that Mexico is a failed state!
ReplyDeleteAnd soon to be turned a narco state!
Mexico is a Marco state and has been for a while,and the USA is another one,and the cash cow to loot.the MIERDA initiative was only a mechanism to steal that billion and a half from the us public through,and further sink Mexico in the pile of shit it is in,it would be cheaper to buy the drugs from the producers and burn all of it at the source,no middlemen,yeah?
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ReplyDeleteI honestly believe u.s lost allot of respect with the snowden shit from other countries. Russia didn't pay attention so y should we wtf is the us going to do about it, is wat they are saying probably. N knowing there spying on every other country everyones like fuck the u.s. N u.s supplies all these countries weapons to kill themselves. Im a u.s citizen but this country is fucked up already. We are the same or worse than Mexico just cuz we kno how to hide shit more.
ReplyDeleteget right on that Mexico lol
ReplyDeleteeven when the phone is off and without battery,Obama can activate it and listen and see whatever is going on,it is also telling your location and what other cell phones you have,so now you know,good look,keep yo ass safe and out of trouble.don't carry the tech if you know what is good for you
ReplyDeleteI wonder why the stupid American government never had extradited him before, seems like Mexican government is doing it for retaliation, because Mexican government didn't like how DEA is working and how is managing the drug war,it is clear for Mexicans that DEA is who controls the drug and is the one who decides when act against capos, like z40, it is clear that PENA NIETO gabinet didn't like that secretism, I think now OBAMA AND PENA NIETO are working together in order to clear the corruption on both sides or at least making a better monopolio with out the damn DEA.
ReplyDeleteOnce again Mexicos presidents federales military politicians kno who to ride with because there always with the sinaloan cowboys they always have been since the start of drug trafficking in Mexico you gotta understand sinaloa is a messed up place the mafia has always existed there since the days of porfirio Diaz except the mobsters where the military and politicians and hi ranking people. saludos chivis!
ReplyDeleteThe US supplies both, the cartels and Mexican military with weapons. Is that business or what? They do the same with other countries, like the Salvadoran war in the 80s.
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no matter who steps up to the plate rafa was and will always be numero uno gringos stop fucking around you will always be the buyers... we have the 15 tons supplyers weres the 15 ton buyers arrest them or is theres a ghost buying the merca... r 1 should of been free long ago.. manden a los putos k matan mexicanos y asi asemos trato gueros como la ven....
ReplyDeletehere we go again,the USA arms and money provides the Mexican with the corrupt greedy politicians that fuck up the Mexican people,to protect them lousy messican from communism,so if we become wetbacks due to our greedy government,it is OK,for that proves we like us $$!
ReplyDeleteFor those defending Camarena why don't you tell everyone that Kiki was fed up at the DEA's inability to pursue drug lords in Guadalajara. Frustrated at the US Governments lack of interest in their work in GDL, and not having any of their backs. Disillusioned at how the DEA burned their own agent Sandy Bario. Tell them how Kiki befriended Miguel Felix, Don Neto and Rafa, and asked Rafa to be godfather to be one of his kids first communions. Say how Kiki told the Guadalajara group they could work with impunity and he would inform on his office's activities to them for some money of course. Tell them that Alfredo Zavala the SARH pilot, who discovered El Bufalo was the one who snitched at the US consulate and put Kiki into a tight spot. The tight spot that would cost him his life. The Mafia doesn't forgive betrayals. Tell them how Kiki received pay offs and didn't give a shit about his job anymore because he was ready to leave to San Diego and leave the life in GDL behind. Tell the people the truth of how Kiki really was. Sticks up the anus? Ice picks to the shins? Stuff of slasher films. All fluff made up by the DEA in their zealous efforts to prosecute Caro Quintero and Fonseca. none of that shit appears in the autopsy reports. All that torture shit is crap. They beat him up and a DFS agent (not gonna say who, but he paid with his life his stupid mistake) drove a tire iron into his head. There. Now you guys know the reality. Not everything is the way the Gringos say. They ruined Dr Machain (who sells hotdogs now in GDL) accusing him of reviving Kiki (he had a gun to his head, wtf was he gonna do?) and ruined Don Ruben Zuno's life. He died in prison for nothing. For owning a house where Camarena died, that he had sold 2 years previous but the US needed big names to go down...Tell the people how the DEA paid old commie guerrillas from GDL, got them out of jail so they could "testify" they were at the house (881 Lope de Vega, Zapopan), and "SAW" the Minister of the Interior and Secretary of Defense there at the house...all bullshit. Pure Bullshit. DEA, dirty as the narcos they pursue.
ReplyDeleteYa they receive money from the Us yearly, but they also receive money from the cartels, a lot more money and thats monthly.
ReplyDeleteMexican Special Forces = Three Stooges eating a burrito
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