Viagras now in control of Michoacán

Borderland Beat Chivis with Video information translation by Vato

Pricilla of Grillonautas interviews  Autodefensa Leader Jorge Vázquez  

Pricilla interviews Vázquez and questions him over points highlighted in the latest rant by  Servando  Gómez  Martínez ,  alias  La  Tuta sent on Wednesday via audio to social media. Jorge  Vázquez  spokesman  for  the  Michoacán  legitimate  self-defence  groups  (coastal autodefensas) says  that  the  alias  La  Tuta ,  in  audio  that  was circulated  today  -through networks

The video is very long at over 25  minutes, so we present an overview of the interview highlighting key points….notable on the Tuta interview is that Tuta said in respect of autodefensas, there are real autodefensas, and there are those who are organized crime, that hid behind the AD banner.

1. He agrees with Tuta that there are many ex-Templarios in the Fuerzas Rurales (FR) He does not believe that it is 50% or the rank and file, but he agrees with Tuta that 50% or more of the commanders of the FRs are either former Templarios or people very closely allied with La Familia and the Templarios, or are members of Los Viagras. He tried to get the names of all the FR commanders' names but the Fed Govt would not release the names, so Vazqez says he has to agree with the numbers given by Tuta regarding the commanders and their Viagra affiliations. He does not know of  Cartel Jalisco Nueva Generacion members who are in FRs.

2. Castillo has been told repeatedly that his commanders are ex-Templarios or current Vigras, but he won't do anything about it. Castillo does not have to appoint these Viagras as commanders; there are honest people for the job. He says that in his town's case, they have gotten rid of the commander that Castillo wanted to appoint, the Fructuoso character. When Interviewer asks for names, he says he only knows the ones from his own town, Aguililla, but all the Viagras are known and he will get her the names.

Priscilla asks if he agrees with Tuta when he calls Papa Pitufo el "lame huevos" of Chango Mendez? Vazquez agrees with Tuta on this. He says that Papa Pitufo is related to Chango Mendez, brother in law, or something. He promises he will provide Priscilla a "genealogical" chart to explain all the relationships.

3. He says that the seven Sierra Santana brothers, except the one they call the Ingeniero, are commanders with the FRs. He reminds Priscilla that Castillo had stated that the FRs would only have authority within their own towns, but he says the Viagras brothers must come from several towns because they act as FR commanders all over Michoacán.

4. According to Vazquez, Commissioner Castillo brought the Viagras to Michoacán. All that Castillo did was to substitute one cartel for another, which is not what the autodefensas were doing. He says, "We call them los Viagras, although they may call themselves something else".

He says that the Sierra Santana brother, the Viagra known as "El Gordo", appears with Papa Pitufo in the video, although El Gordo denied being a Viagra.

He says that the people in Michoacán cheered when the Viagras attacked the Caballeros Templarios, but the Viagras simply replaced the CTs, they never helped the people. But the Viagras quickly showed they were the same as the CTs.......

5. He calls Castillos stupid for asking people to make denunciations, i.e., formal criminal complaints, if they have information for him. But Castillo has appointed Viagras as commanders and the people know that it is dangerous to talk. Besides, the people knew that the Caballeros Templarios were working with the government. Today, the Viagras are Castillo's cartel. Castillo did not come to Michoacán to clean up crime, but to take for himself the money the Templarios were stealing.

6. Vazquez says that he referred a case to the SEIDO (federal agency specializing in organized crime investigations) in which Fructuoso and Castillo were involved in theft of mineral ore. Vazquez says that SEIDO told him that Castillo was too big to go after.

7. Vazquez asserts that the number of murders and other crimes has increased since Castillo came to Mich. He agrees with Priscilla that there have not been any large gunfights or massacres, but he says there are murders being committed, one here, two there, all over Michoacán , and that if you simply add them up, the number of murders is greater today than when they (the ADs) were "at war" against the Cab. Templarios.

8. Vazquez cannot give case by case details of the murders, but he said the manner in which they were murdered shows organized crime. He also points out that the murders are being committed in areas where the FRs are supposed to maintain order, which leads him to conclude that the Viagras serving in the Fuerzas Rurales are getting rid of the last of their enemies.

9. Priscilla asks, is it fair to say that the Viagras are now the lords of organized crime in Michoacán? He says, "Exactly...", but he would add Commissioner Castillo and certain government officials, such as Michoacán Public Safety Secretary Eloy Peralta, aka "El Yanqui" , Papa Pitufo to the Viagras. He says there are more government officials allied with the Viagras now.

10. Vazquez says that they will continue with operations despite what Castillo says. Castillo makes pronouncements for political reasons, and he gets quoted and interviewed by the national media. Vazquez says the national media will not interview him so he can tell the truth.

The ADs have to defend their lives, their families and their property, If Castillo truly believes that Michoacán is now safe, why doesn't he get a convertible and visit towns in Michoacán? Instead, he uses armored vehicles and surrounds himself with guards, uses helicopters overhead. He concludes by saying that either Castillos is stupid, or he is simply following a script and says what he's been told to say.