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Tuesday, December 2, 2014

Calls For President to Resign Continue and Violence Ensues: UPDATED 12/2

Update following story
Borderland Beat by DD


The marches and protests continue.  Yesterday, Dec. 1, was the second anniversary of EPN’s assumption of power and the streets of Mexico City filled with thousands of people demanding the safe return of the 43 Ayotzinapa normal school students and the resignation of President Enrique Pena Nieto.


The march started from the central plaza, the Zocolo, at 3:PM and proceeded to the Angel of Independence where a stage had been set up.  The march was led by the parents of the Ayotzinapa students and contingents were still arriving at 9:PM.  The march was peaceful and included 5 observers from the UN High Commissioners Office, as well as inspectors of the National and Federal District Human Rights Commissions were also in attendance.  

During the march yells of "We've had it up to here with this government!”  were heard frequently.  A man with a loud speaker repeated the mantra "The 43 was the straw that broke the camel's back. The 43 was the spark that ignited the fuse."   “Out with Pena Nieto” was the common refrain.  


Whether the seemingly continuous marches over the last 2 months has had anything to do with it or not, the marchers seem invigorated by the latest poll numbers of the EPN.  Results from the latest presidential poll released yesterday showed Pena Nietos “favorable” rating had fallen to 38%.



Some 60 other anti-government protests rocked Mexico yesterday and saw solidarity from the rest of the world.  In the border cities of El Paso and Ciudad Juarez, activists cooperated to block the international bridge. Solidarity marches and activities were also held in Frankfurt, Los Angeles, Montreal, Cordoba, London and Brussels, among others.

Upon arriving at the plaza of the Angel of Independence Clemente Rodríguez, representing parents of the Ayotzinapa students, opened the round of speeches.   Mothers, fathers and brothers of the disappeared, eyes overflowing with an infinite sadness, insisted that since the night of September 26 they do not want to eat and cannot sleep, because they wonder if their sons will be fed, if they will be tortured and only faith remains of recovering them alive.

Clemente told the crowd that;  "We're all looking for them. (Former governor) Ángel Aguirre offered us a lot of money, but we told him to go to hell."


He also recalled the times they have met with Peña Nieto and Miguel Ángel Osorio Chong, Secretary of Government Relations [SEGOB], without favorable results.    When he added,

"Peña Nieto has to resign," the people started chanting,"Out Peña!" 



Two representatives of the IPN [National Polytechnic Institute] read a lengthy statement in which they ask the society to begin to organize and prepare the national strike. The students joined in shouting for Peña's resignation, but they extended it by adding: "Everyone Get Out!"


The National Coordinating Committee of Education Workers (CNTE) announced a massive mobilization on Thursday, December 6th [Centennial Celebration of the entrance into Mexico City of Emiliano Zapata and Pancho Villa, heroes of the Mexican Revolution].



Feminists also showed up carrying a huge collage made up of photos and names of each of the 43 disappeared. Representatives of Amnesty International and Greenpeace also marched.


People from Atenco , where a brutal assault on protestors took place when EPN was Governor of the state of Mexico, clambered up the stairs to the stage with their machetes held high. Painted on the blades was the slogan:

"Alive they took them, alive we want them back!"

Activists also demanded an end to government repression, the release of all political prisoners, and the exoneration of members of social movements whose cases have not yet been decided.

There were banners demanding justice for Juan Francisco Kuy Kendall, who died in the hospital eleven months after being shot in the head by the police with a supposedly non-lethal projectile during an anti-Peña Nieto protest two years ago.

They also demanded justice for Teodulfo Torres, aka “El Tio,” who was by Kuy’s side when he was shot, and who has not been seen since the day he was scheduled to testify in court about the attack on his friend.

This time there were no police protecting hotels and offices; instead, metal fences had been set up.

At about 8:00 p.m., the rally concluded after the protesters solemnly sang the National Anthem.


BUT THEN THE VIOLENCE AND REPRESSION STARTED


As the marchers dispersed and started their trek home, a tiny group of no more than 40 people, with their faces covered, carrying sticks, stones and firecrackers, began to wreak havoc on Florence Street.

The subjects were causing damage along Reforma Boulevard near Chapultepec-Centro. They set fire to some establishments, broke windows at banks and other businesses, and threw Molotov cocktails. This caused mobilization of hundreds of riot police, who made several arrests.

People returning to their homes were yelling "Fascists!" and "Paid by Peña" and "Infiltrators" and "Provocateurs" in addition to chanting: "No violence, no violence" referring to the trouble makers.

Many protesters panicked when the riot police appeared. The hooded ones ran toward the streets of Juárez neighborhood, while hundreds of people who were demonstrating peacefully, mostly college students, tried to organize to undertake a withdrawal as a contingent.


Among themselves, they shouted:

"Don't run! Everyone stay together!"


But just in front of the Senate building, about 400 youths were surrounded by the police.

The university students demanded:

"No violence, no violence."

Others confronted the riot police by shouting and claiming their right to freedom of expression.

On Paris Street dozens of uniformed forces tried to surround other university students, who managed to escape through a hole in the police ranks. Angered, the riot police threw punches trying to detain anyone in front of them. At that moment, they beat a woman who was passing by with her husband and sons.

A policeman hit her on the head several times with his baton until she collapsed. Three youths tried to defend the woman named Rosalinda Rojas Nieves, but other uniformed troops attacked and managed to detain them.

Inspectors from the National and Federal District Human Rights Commissions managed to reach where the youths were surrounded, and they formed a human wall to prevent them from being attacked by riot police. Mexico City authorities reported the detention of three people.


While there is no way right now to know who instigated the violence after the march and rally, the people involved in the peaceful demonstrations are justified in suspecting the government is behind these incidents of violence in order to discredit the demonstrators and give the public the impression that the marches are merely the actions of anarchists trying to destabilize the government. 


 That was the allegation made by EPN after the November 20 demonstration where attempts were made to burn the door to burn the door to the Presidential Palace.  However, videos of that incident surfaced and has caused an investigation of the role of a General of the Army who was shown on the videos in plain clothes among the masked trouble makers.  There is a growing suspicion that the government covertly instigated the violence to justify using force against the protesters.


The people also have not forgotten the massacre in 1968 at  La Plaza de las Tres Culturas at Tlatelolco, where over 300 people, mostly students, were slaughtered by government forces.  The government claimed that the unarmed students initiated the violence by firing into the mass of troops surrounding the plaza.  History has brought out the truth that government snipers on top of buildings nearby fired into the troops to get them to attack the students.  The government claimed it was only responding to the violence of the students and 20 “anarchists” were killed.  Witness accounts and videos have shown that hundreds were killed.   Some just disappeared that day.


The governments motive for attacking the demonstrators?  The 1968 Olympic games were scheduled to start in 10 days and the government wanted no more protest to mar Mexico’s image.   They pretty well succeeded in squelching the student movement at the time.  No more demonstrations were held for a long time thereafter.

My hope is that with the eyes of the world on Mexico right now that PRI will not resort to tactics of repression if EPN’s approval ratings in the polls falls another 10 points.


UPDATE;  From Mexico Voices
Aristegui Noticias: The National Commission for Human Rights (CNDH) has initiated an official complaint to review the actions of the security forces during the violence following the peaceful march on Monday in Mexico City. Once the evidence is collected, a decision will be issued, the Commission said in a statement.

It regretted that the legitimate exercise of the right to demonstrate is overshadowed by some groups that incite violence and create unrest, as in the march on Monday. The exercise of the rights to free expression, protest and expression should be carried out without any limitation other than respect for the law, it said.

Therefore, it reiterated its call on the authorities of the Mexican State, particularly the security forces, to adjust their actions to the provisions of the Constitution.

Regarding yesterday's events as part of the December 1 mobilization in Mexico City, the Commission said that a group of 80 assistant observers joined with their counterparts from the Mexico City Commission to monitor the performance of public security authorities. This staff positioned themselves in various places where contingents of marchers were arriving in order to provide support and verify that the demonstration developed peacefully. The agency also issued precautionary measures to safeguard the security of participants.

It commented that during the development of the march, some hooded persons joined the contingent, mainly in the rear, and apparently they were the ones who vandalized several establishments, by which they put at risk the security and integrity of the participants. The agency strongly disapproved of these events and urged the authorities to investigate and punish such offenses, and that there be no impunity.

It said that in the face of the police action to contain some protesters, the CNDH formed a fence to prevent damage, especially to women, elderly, children and civilian defenders, and they accompanied the people during their departure, until they had all left.

In parallel, another group of observers went to the prosecutor's offices to which the policemen took detainees, in order to verify their health and legal situation

It stressed that the intervention and support provided by the observers was to prevent abuse of detainees, and it voiced that whoever committed crimes must be investigated and punished.



Proceso followed up with a story about  the Federal Police coordinator for the central zone of Mexico City, Marco Tulio Lopez Escamilla, condemned the actions of observers from the national and city Commissions for Human Rights (CNDH and CDHDF) during the march.

In his personal Twitter account @Ciceron9, the Federal Police coordinator who wasthe former Secretary of Public Security for Oaxaca accused the observers:
"And these alleged 'defenders of human rights' protected the anarchists after the destruction."
A minute later, he wrote a second tweet:
"According to them, [they did it] so that 'they weren't attacked by the police !' (Sic) And why didn't they prevent them from attacking the property of the people?"  (DD note; because Mr Lopez Escamilia protecting the property is the job of the police, not the Human Rights Commission)

After the rally at the Angel of Independence had ended, a group of masked men walked along the side of Reforma Avenue and broke windows in four Oxxo and Extra [convenience] stores , as well as bank branches, including a Santander bank located in the Reforma 222 Mall.

The hooded men left by surrounding streets when hundreds of riot police of the Federal District, following them at a distance, blocked Reforma Avenue on both sides of the Senate building, thereby violently "encapsulating" the people who were there. They let some of them go.

Three youths were arrested while protecting Rosalinda Rose Nieves, a woman whom the police left with a bloody head

Miguel Herrera, director Marabunta Brigade, said that all the hooded men responsible for the damage left when the riot police charged the people walking on Reforma Avenue. Marabunta Brigade is a civil society organization composed of observers and human rights defenders who document police abuses and provide immediate care for the wounded, according to the CDHDF. They are recognized by their dress and red helmet and the flag sticking out of their backpacks.

About the detainees, Herrera said:
"We know they were not the ones who caused the damage." He added: "The lesson the riot police leave us is, 'We let them do damage in order to criminalize social protest. We let the people who carry out these destructive acts go and eventually we go after the people that demonstrate in peace.' I can't prove it, but seeing the events, that is what happened," Herrera.

When hundreds of riot police closed Reforma Avenue and encapsulated a group of over 50 people, including young and old and even elderly people, CNDH observers spontaneously decided to form a "wall" to protect them from the police.

They stayed on Reforma Avenue, by the Senate, for a long time. Three people who were injured received care from doctors from the CNDH and the Marabunta Brigade, while members of the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights in Mexico observed the events and took notes.

Finally, the persons protected by the CNDH observers and surrounded by riot police moved
toward the Hidalgo Metro station. The observers formed a "human corridor" to allow people to enter the station in small groups.

70 comments:

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    1. Do you want progress at all??... Who do you want for president?... ...

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  2. Great article, thank you! Two comments:

    1) The last time I read about a protest this big was when the Sinaloans were protesting the arrest of El Chapo. Nice to see the citizens of Mexico protesting AGAINST crime instead of that.

    2) This won't last. EPN will avoid this until his citizens give up and get interested in something else. I say this because it's happened before. EPN knows he's not in any real trouble.

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    1. El chapo guzman peoples helped organized that protest. Sinaloans without capos don't eat.

      I DON'T doubt the dark hands, money of drug cartel narcos are on this big protests they gotta be helping with this movement. THEY SEE EPN AS A BIG ENEMY FOR THE ILLEGAL DRUG DEALING BUSINESS, they know that without their drug traficking they are nothing. NO MONEY TO CORRUPT OR FOR IMPUNITY.

      AND IT SEEMS EPN IS COMING WITH EVERYTHING AGAINST THOSE NARCO HOMICIDES. MF's..

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    2. violent revolution is needed and I think Mexicans are more then down to pick up arms and chase pna nieto off

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    3. @2:05 am are you out of rabbit ass mind. How is a drug that killed about 75k people supposed to help??! Enlighten me???

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  3. Raise your guns, it's time people...

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    1. What guns? Echeveria took most of the guns from citizens, so now only the government and the narcos have them.

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    2. what guns? there-in lies the problem.

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    3. Guns No Guns in Mx. Ja Ja Ja Obama wants my guns and that will be over my dead body. Pena will remain Presdent. U can not over throw a government without guns

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  4. That's great!! Get him out!! Viva Mexico!!

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  5. I heard the "Chapo Snitched Guy " was among the protesters trying to get Chapo released from prison !!!

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  6. EPN just another pawn (insert any adjective you want) of the US. He is a poor leader but a good speaker who knew how to bullshit his way into office. Lesson is be wary of bullshitters and smooth talkers. They may be brash and loud but are short on substance. No wonder Mexico has banned firearms otherwise a full blown revolution might have occurred by now.

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    1. You mean a full blown war? more killings... hahhah

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  7. Do Pena and all his piece of garbage associates like Muammar Gaddafi! !!

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  8. I certainly hope Pena Nieto resigns and takes his nut hugger Castillo with him.

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  9. @ 6:01 PM You are probably eight, but my gut feeling is that this time it's different! This time it feels like the people have nothing more to lose and have finally had enough!!! Gents, we are witnessing history and this will be a historic revolution that will have unintended unforseen consequences!!!!! Mark my words!!! I just hope, for the good of Mexico that it's just a social revolution and change is done through a re-organization without violence!!! A violent revolution will not benefit anybody other than the gunmakers! The government better start reforming as painful as it may seem now!!! Before The PEOPLE Rise Up And Make Them reform!!! Arab spring anybody!!! I hope not look at Iraq- worse off, Libya- worse off, Egypt- worse off, Syria worse off. ( Iraq was not Arab spring , but war didn't make the country better. Only some small percentage benefitted because of oil and power). All I'm saying is to be careful what we ask for because there is consequences and the ruling elite in Mexico might just get what the ruling elite got in those countries! Greed never ended up good. Remember what Pancho Villa did to the rich Hacienda owners that didn't share their wealth and land!

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    1. nothing is going to happen, Mexicans r very good people

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    2. History is proof!! look no further than 100 years ago!!

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  10. Hopefully shit actually changes for the better this time. It'd be disappointing if everyone just pussied out, which in a way, I'm expecting it.

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  11. Motherfucker blaming ill will from mexico's enemies, "to destabilize his regime"...
    --Pena nieto and his ministers caused all this mayhem, and want to pay for silence, i hope it does not work

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    1. I'm so surprised you didn't blame the US in your rant. Good job!!! There is still hope in this world. ;-)

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    2. Millie monster if it had been a regime all the opposites would be history since day one

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  12. I thought that the powers to be were just after their own loot. But it appears that they are as arrogant and Spaniard as any of the Cortezians patrons. Recently I read a article suggesting that this was simply a tantrum of baby citizens of mexico and that all that they needed was a good distraction. Wow, and that was published. Were is the democracy manifesto that could lead Mex out of this debacle, but not into a cuba or a venazuela?

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  13. Get him out and then what? Whats that going to solve??? For Chong to become president? For another political puppet? Who is the leader of these protests ... who is the voice of the people.. who do the people want in office if pena is out??

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  14. Good article. The students are definitely the smartest. Peña Nieto? Pffft! He wasn't the Mayor of Iguala or Governor of Guerrero. Get them all out! ... Stop selling your votes. Or nothing will change.

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  15. I can say hundres of reasons why this government stinks and it looks that it is not any real solution to fix something the is already corrupted to the maximo level of impimpunity, out of control. The government not even try to fix anything nor willing to make a real change. They want to continue like always for the last 80 years. Its time that the corrupted Mexican systems step down.

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    1. So true, a change is not wanted. When a government is ran by criminals, this is what you get. Being submissive and complying, is what's expected..demanded, anything besides that, is a threat to their order of things.Until there is no more acceptance, there can be no change in anything.

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  16. RESIGN PENA NIETO AND TAKE YOUR CORRUPT WIFE WITH YOU!!!!

    ZAPATA VIVE - LA LUCHA SIGUE

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  17. Jajjajjajaa. Fucking mexica - can'ts..no violence jajajja....grow some balls and star the mayhem....

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  18. The difference is that people were protesting FOR el Chapo, these people are against the mothafaking government and speciarly against pena nieto, AND it is nationwide...
    --the la autorida' is defending itself like a bunch of hungry garbage dump dogs...
    --out with their mothafaking asses AND reposess all they have stolen, AND repudiate the foreign debt, mexico has NOTHING to show for it, lenders are responsible for their own fuck-ups

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  19. And everybody forgot about Dr. Mireles, who led the charge and now is rotting in prison on trumped up charges.
    I wonder what is going through his mind.

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  20. Who are the Republicans and Democrats in Mexico ?
    Do they have other parties as well ?
    In Europe they have Greens, Liberals, etc.

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    1. The PRD is on the left. PAN is on the right. PRI has no ideology except stay in power.

      Left and right doesn't really matter in Mexico though. Guerrero is controlled by the left-wing party, PRD, and has 2,000+ murders annually with entire families turning up in unmarked graves. Same happens in some northern states that are ruled by PAN.

      This isn't about politics. I can present to you members of every single party in Mexico that are corrupted by narco $. That's really what this is about: $ and corruption.

      There was a banner at the marches: "No somos de la izquierda. No somos de la derecha. Somos los de abajo. Y los de enmedio. Y vamos for los de arriba."

      Translates as: "We aren't from the left. We aren't from the right. We're from the bottom. And the middle. And we're coming for the ones on top."

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    2. Not so sure but imo I think PRI is republican nd PAN is democrat. Nd there are many more parties like PRD and others.

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  21. #FUERAPENA

    achingarsumadreputo.

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  22. The success of this protest is highly unlikely with regard to EPN resigning, however, these protests which we are seeing more frequently show the Mexican peoples frustration, anger, and willingness to take action, which is something we haven't seen for some time.

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  23. Honestly, I don't think he'll finish his sexenio

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  24. I don't want to be rude, but where is the organized crime news??

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    1. In Mexico the State is the Criminal Organization.

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    2. @11;22. You are not being rude, but sometimes we need to take a look at the bigger picture. Corruption breeds impunity and impunity makes the criminals, whether they be public officials or members of a cartel, feel like they can get away with anything. It is all related Organized crime is just the end result.

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    3. How is this not organized crime news? The student deaths that sparked these protests were perpetrated by a narco gang in conjunction with the government. People are tired of having a narco-gobierno. I don't see how this isn't about organized crime. Not to mention these protests will (in my opinion, have already) have an effect on federal law enforcement strategies against organized crime.

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  25. Fuck the PAN they fucked it up EPN is the only pres to clean house and lock up the cartels its going to take time he just started calderon and fox and in the usa they sold out mexico don't be so stupid how can the pres be responsible for communist students highjacking buses, blocking roads and destroying tax payer buildings I would of shot them myself!

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    1. This announcement was paid for by the PRI!

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    2. I lost trust in Peña Nieto when he choose to work with criminals against the true and honest AD movement, That was demoralizing! Castillo, Chong, they are totally corrupted! Televisa has a corrupted agenda, it's really sad! What's more sad is the people pulling the strings are way more powerful than Peña Nieto, even if he wanted to do the right thing he would be a dead man! Somebody rise up and do the right thing! There are people who lead and those that follow! It's gonna take some balls ( Dr Mireles), some brains, and a vast network of people from all over the ccountry to slowly turn the tide from this evilness!

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  26. It is very suspicous to me that protesters "protesting" against the government would disappear without a trace. It is known in any country that people protesting against governments can sometimes be made to "disappear" however the quantity of people disappeared in this single act makes me doubt that the very same government with so much pressure from the public can keep these vanished people from the publics eye wether they are still alive or dead. Furthermore I want to add that the only place in Mexico or any country that people disappear and no one ever tends to look for them are in that very countries own military installations and or military prisons.

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    1. I never thought about this, but you make a great point in that the real people higher ups! Are putting up a Dog and Pony show, and will never find the bodies because they probably already dug them up and got rid of them far and away! Too much to hide!!! Hmmm....

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  27. Christ,11:22., the organised crime is in LosPinos

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  28. Go look at the video where pena nieto gets slaped.

    Just google super lechoso and click on the first link result

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  29. December the 6th is not a Thursday?

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  30. Changes can ONLY come, when a change is demanded, by all the people!! I certainly don't see EPN stepping down, the benefits are too great.It's going to take a complete over haul of change, from the smallest of seats, to the biggest.This is a good start, in showing the peoples feelings about how EPN has done his job, which would be very poorly.Congrats to all, who have braved this stand! It's only when you make the effort, can you accomplish your goal.

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  31. Sorry I haven't been following this enough but could someone explain what exactly the president/PRI is accused of? Is it just that they haven't seemed to want to address the problem of the missing students? Or are they accused of actually helping make it happen? The first one, right?

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    1. People are protesting against corruption at the municipal, state, and federal level and among all police forces. The PRI and EPN are the worst, but the whole narco-gobierno is corrupt.

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    2. Just read all the past articles here on BB and the corruption list will make you sick to the stomach! Especially the many who have suffered!

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  32. I can't believe he has 38 percent favorable rating.who are those dumb asses.

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  33. Here. We. Go. Again.
    The president and his cabinet are'accused of tekidnapping and disappearances of students, 30 from cocula and 43 from ayotzinapa, kidnapped from iguala, after murdering 7 persons, right after tlatlaya's 22 murdered "narco-guerrilas"...
    --the narcs had no personal reason to do that, the only ones to order something like that is the federal government, who demands and the state goernment who delivers, they are guilty of the crime, the disinformation and the cover-up, like any mexican government with a depopulation program and other crimes in mind...

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  34. @2:15 at top, we want el chapo for president.
    El punetero mayor, aka epn is only stealing the drg trafficking business from the narcs, his partners at grupo atracomulco are sooo 'happyyyy' ...
    --Pinche bola de jotos le salen muy caros a mexico, fuck pena nieto and co!!!

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    1. Your out of your mind stupid. El chapo with el Mayo have already been presidents of mxico in the past! they only created more crime and violence!! more criminal organization cells!

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  35. Im sorry, but this is too much the 43 students as we all know are dead by now way back when they were missing i know as heartless and despicible that sounds its indeed a reality in mexico. My point is the people should march for the MASS GRAVES FOUND full of dead bodies like really, those men women found burned, beheaded, and dismembered for christ sakes alllll have families that remember them WHERE IS THE MARCH FOR THOSE PEOPLE. The cry should be for mexico and the people not propaganda of the rich puto ñieto and getting him out of office using the memory of 43 students. My heart goes out to their families but this "injustice" is in every narco state. Call me a dick for being real but 43 doesnt make up for millions dead a few of my family members as well. Now that the people have a voice i think its time for a motherfucking revolution not just living in fear of both mafias in office and in states. WAKE UP MEXICO

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  36. El pri used to be the leftist left, but the privatization fever drove it to the right of el pan, and shares with it the ugliest pretenses of owning the country and its patrimony and deciding whose's foreign ass to kisss...
    --the partido verde ecologista mexicano is nothing but an instrument to sell the mexican ecology to the best bidder to build casinos or hotels, apartment buildings where they can rape women and kill them, to get money from el pri without having to share with priista proletarian politicians...
    --the prd has become a tool for the priistas without delusions about their getting rewards for all the work they have put into el pri, from the prd, former priistas get a chance to keep up the flame of priista corruption shining brightly from iguala guerrero, but even founder cuauhtemito cardens has resigned from his frankenstein...
    --MORENA, the latest creation of andres manuel lopez obrador, may be the last refuge of the mexicans, but may need a lot of new leaders in the castrista/stalinista model, be wily and unmerciful, and the US do not like "that", not without their say so...
    --the PT, the MC, PANAL, PRIANAL, and the chapulines colorados are all waiting for a chance to vote for the winner, and will give all comers a taste of honeymoon for a promise of marriage "later"...

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  37. Why would EPN ever consider resignation when this kind of thing is common place throughout Mexico's history. The disappearances are not a new wave of violence towards the people. It was done during Fox's and Calderon's administration so why is it different with EPN. I don't condone what is going on in Mexico but I am curious to know what is the consensus of the BB readers. There is nothing gained by the population if EPN decided to publicly condemn the corruption when the entire system is corrupt. If EPN got on TV tonight and said there is too much corruption in Mexico and I can't stop it. What then? How does Mexico go forward without total collapse and more violence?

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    1. @12:59 THANK YOU finally someone on BB gets it.

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    2. There you go seems like you get it. All of that is nothing new it has been happening for decades. And the reallity only untill now have started to completly come out.
      EPN is getting all the heat for it. having to deal with all the infern others before him created.

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  38. 12:59, 6:54, and11:22 pena nieto's agents, you don't get it, but pena nieto is paying for the sins of his people, as commander in chief he had a chance to do better, but he chose the way of el pri and its self appointed satraps you seem to not be getting any of it, frankly your comments in defense sounds much too corrupt to not be true...

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  39. We do get it 1:53a but apparently you don't. Mexico has built it's history on corruption and do you think EPN is big enough to change the status quo. You are fooling yourself if you believe that ONE person can change more than 200 years of oppression and corruption. Yes EPN is too weak to challenge the powers that be but that's the norm. Even the strongest rebels in Mexican history eventually were beaten into submission. If they weren't beaten they were killed and made an example of. The Mexican people have to unite and stop pointing fingers. If EPN is guilty for not standing up for the students then we all are because we are doing nothing.

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  40. @1:53 SHUT UP FLANDERS haha but seriously "peña nietos agents" you are a contradiction my friend like what 7:18 said one single man isnt responsible for decades of corruption its easy to blame the powers that be but dont try to be on a high horse calling us the agents of a weak minded individual due to your lack of knowledge of whats been happening for many many years. You should stick to american politics you wanna troll take it to facebook you probably go on liberal blogs saying the same for obamas "agents". Do your homework and come back with a little more intelligence before you poison this blog with your theories. Face reality pendejo these tragedies ARE NOT NEW.

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