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Sunday, May 24, 2015

Doubts surround Government version of Tanhuato "clash" that ended with 43 deaths

by Lucio R. Borderland Beat
In photo 2 tactical gear belt appears, body appears to have been placed
after death Click on any image to enlarge-
Raul Benitez Manaut, a security expert at the National Autonomous University of Mexico says:

 “Apparently the gang offered no resistance; it was a very uneven fight. A battle where 42 die on one side and only one on the other is not a battle."

Alejandro Hope: "Many details are missing. We don't know how many people participated in the police and military operation. We don't know if the helicopter was armed," said the former intelligence agency official.

“Authorities have to demonstrate that this was not another Tlatlaya," he said.

"Those denying Tanhuato is another Tlatlaya are the same people who denied that Tlatlaya was a case of extrajudicial killings."

As multiple BB readers have commented, the number of weapons seized doesn't match the number of dead and detained.

As people take to social networks to cast doubts, photos are appearing and given great scrutiny.

In several of the photos smoke can be seen escaping the main ranch house.  State police contend they were simply "cleaning up", "We are burning trash. It was very dirty. There were clothes and rotten food." Yet photos of the interior challenge that claim. 

Photos of the dead are concerning.  Two photos side by side of the same scene, where weapons magically appear in one.  Weapons in photos appear staged.  Injuries are suspect, such as limbs with obvious fractures, one appears to be a compound fracture.

Missing in most the photos are pooling of blood, and hordes of bullet casings that should be present in a 3 hour shootout.

A federal investigator did say there were three areas of large pools of blood along the perimeter fence. 



In the image above signs of staging are apparent and noted.  The slide show has photos of some of the dead.  In the photos, the images raise questions of weapons being planted.  In some of the photos there are signs of beatings, including limb fractures, one having multiple fractures on one arm. 


Be mindful that the scene is not preserved.  Soldiers are not to be walking in the areas of evidence, they must wait for investigators from PGR to collect evidence.

Soldiers and police are trained to observe protocol and respect the criminology procedures that will follow the event.  For sound forensics and gathering of evidence to remain uncompromised, the crime scene must remain intact, and uncontaminated.  This is to ensure due process is truthful and for the protection of all involved parties.

If a crime scene is tampered with by placing, or removing objects, or bodies, developing a theory, substantiated by evidence cannot be attained.


Detection of vital signs can be achieved without compromising the scene.  Soldiers and police are trained in how to proceed after an event.

There is a photo on the ranch home interior, which authorities claimed was filled with trash, hence their fire for cleanup.  Yet the home looks relatively clean, and does not appear to have been used to any great degree.  Were the dead men really camped out at the ranch?

Some photos, including the one at top, rigors mortis has set in, but not in a position that is consistent to where it now rests,  indicating a movement of the corpse.  The left arm was resting on something previously.  Other photos indicate the same.  

To stop youtube “autoplay” view video on YT and click off autoplay on upper right corner

Representatives from Michoacán and national human rights commissions have been to the ranch to inspect and investigate.

Mexican lawmakers are casting suspicion on the version of the Federal Government that the shooting occurred yesterday in Tanhuato, Michoacán between government forces and CJNG gunmen was the result of a pursuit that led to a confrontation.

Senator Alejandro Encinas said that,  “based on the facts, there was no pursuit that culminated in  at a large ranch, but rather was a pre-planned operation.”

He said it is extraordinary that there are 42 dead on the side of criminals and only one of the police forces.

"Everything indicates that an operation was designed to annihilate this group and was not a circumstantial event.”

"Regardless of whether it is a criminal element, if you begin with them, because they may be criminals, but then tomorrow what? Maybe it's criminals today but tomorrow it could be anyone.”

But, we have been aware of such killings in Mexico for years, Black squads, and military kill operations. What is new, are the advancements of communication technology.  It is difficult to keep truth away from the public eye and scrutiny. 

"We have Tlatlaya, Iguala, Apatzingán, and now Tanhuato, Michoacán, so the practical operation of the oppressive state is set," said Encinas the member of the Bicameral Commission on National Security.

In reading a few of the BB comments coming through on this story, a few have expressed approval of the killings in Tanhuato.  Good riddance to the scum, right?  It is a knee-jerk reaction to say something like that.  It is understandable to harbor such feelings,  but it is wrong and has no place in a civil democracy.

No one knows who the dead men were what they are, where they are from, what they have done.  Innocents have been used as pawns in this so called drug war.

No authority, government, agency, person can become, judge, jury and executioner.  Each citizen, even suspected criminals, have the right to due process, meaning equal and fair treatment through the judicial system.

Encinas states the oppressive stage is set, criminals today, what about tomorrow?  Citizens? politicians?

We have long passed that threshold; take in account of 43 students, kidnapped in Iguala and killed, or the killings of social activist Arturo Hernández Cardona.  The killing of the 43 was directed by municipal authority, and Hernández Cardona’s murder allegedly directly conducted by authority.

And the director of security and his deputies are now charged in the recent killing of Mayoral candidate Enrique Hernandez Salcedo in Yurécuaro, Michoacán.

When one supports extrajudicial killings to be conducted without legal authority, then you are in affect giving carte blanche for authorities to unilaterally decide whose life should end;   A social activist “nuisance”, or an inconvenient political candidate, a bus load problematic students, autodefensas attempting to attain security.

What happened in Tanhuato, in this reporter’s opinion, was a message sent to Mencho, leader of Cartel Jalisco New Generation. A violent, retaliatory planned response, for the downing of an air force helicopter, and the ambush of federal forces by CJNG.   

Let’s be clear, in recent confrontations, CJNG has greatly embarrassed government forces.  CJNG have appeared being better warriors in recent conflicts,

If it is true that there were 300-500 federal forces with top of the line weaponry, helos in the air, that attacked 50-60 guys in Tanhuato, to send a message.  The message that may be construed,  is federal forces appear weak, having to rely on such lopsided advantage and perhaps extrajudicial slaughter to even the score and send a message.  

112 comments:

  1. Hey readers! I am the video person, and I apologize for the slide show having a couple of glitches. One is the title page, the other is the auto loop that takes viewers to other videos.

    Youtube has changed .their editing tools, I can't find a correction.

    Can anyone help?

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    1. The video is plenty clear how some of the weapons were obviously planted

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  2. They found 36 rifles and killed 43 sicarios.
    So, some were unarmed ? :-)

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    1. Whats the fuzz bozo? It is obvious: they were sharing guns! Whilst one was taking a leak, going for a smoke, having a beer or snacking on a taco someone else was using the gun. That way the guns was in constant use. From an efficency point of view the ratio 36 to 42 makes complete sense.

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  3. Alejandro Hope also said this a.m.: Those denying Tanhuato is another Tlatlaya are the same people who denied that Tlatlaya was a Tlatlaya.

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    1. exactly, same here at BB those who will not view evidence with an open mind, will feel the same.

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    2. The armed forces have been doing their murders ofguilty or innocents for a looong time, it just became so obvious that it could not be true recently...
      --But they are into the habit and under "orders", and will keep it up as long as their commander in chief is there...

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  4. ... Bet The People Lying Face Down Have 1 Shot To The Forehead And The Ones Facing Up Were Shot In The Back Of The Head With 1 Shot ... CJNG Is All Over That Area, This Is Just Payback For The Helicopter Incident ... Deliberately Done By EPN As He Gives The OK And Heps With Coverups ... Please Post That Crazy Picture Of Him With Bloody Hands As That Represents His Term Of Presidency And His Passion For The Criminals Of Mexico / Not The People ...

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  5. So what, bunch of criminals that would have done the same if things were rereversed.

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    1. 1:26 so what? A government that has decided it can step into deeper shit just to defend itself, has lost its bearing, that government is worse than the worst criminal, and does not represent the people at all, said about the mexican government, but apply it liberally to the actual rightista governments of the US, including Barack obama's...

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    2. Mexico has had enough finally but then again its all a show

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  6. Those clowns from CJNG turn them selfs in and the federals excuted them aver si sacan un corrido como son de culos el mencho i su gente that only ambush police and military tenia que ser michocanos i jaliscos bien culos i habladores
    Saludos De San Luis Potosin

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    1. why do these idiodic remarks get posted?

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    2. 7:55pm is that you jose lopez ?

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    3. Hate,ignorance,stupidity,and that's just Millie's comments,never mind all the others?

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    4. San Luis Potosi enjoys the distinction of being the home state of narco-porro, zeta for life since the start, general de pacotilla enrique francisco galindo ceballos, who like el negro durazo is general, but of the mexican nazional police, kgb or gestapo...

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    5. @1:01pm most likely , they hurt his feelimgs lol..

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  7. Mexico68, Tlaltelolco was the graduating ceremony for the mexican murdering state, because they had been practicing murdering defenseless mexicans for a while, more than one thousand killed and disappeared, the government says only 20 deaths, in a 10 hour fight started by the student guerrilla/terroristas fighting the "heroic juersaz" of the presidential hawk
    --As secretaries of governance, or as puppets of theirs, people related to the mexican presidents have been murdering mexicans since the 1910 mexican revolution paid by the US for being criminals, if they were or not that was no problem...
    --the dirty piggy style of arturo hernandez murder, done in person by iguala mayor abarca, and the sloppy burial of him and the other victims, coupled with the escape of 3 intended victims, does not match the disappearances of the 43 ayotzinapos, in any way, shape or form...the mexican armed forces are the only ones that can do that, it is their tradition, it is in their blood, and the order came from above, where the is only silence and pestilence...
    --Even Al Capone didn't kill like that, Bugs Moran neither, but st Valentine's day got made famous...
    --We need days to celebrate the deeds of the mexican military and police, and we need to celebrate Il Duce by hanging peña nieto and co. from the palo mas alto...en el zocalo...

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    1. sure it does, take off your blinders.

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    2. History will get to say who's got the blinders...
      -- the ayotzinapos got herded into iguala, and they had a surprise waiting there, their school is not even around iguala, Ayotzinapa is far away, the imperial couple of iguala and their piggy style had no beef with the ayotzinapos...
      --chayote ($$$) would pay to insert blame against them for benefit of peña nieto's.corrupt regime, that I can understand, but it does not make it true...

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  8. All the theories in the pictures make sense except for 6. Also as far as the textile item, unless it provided some significant evidence other than it is moved, it holds no water.The carton is quite a way from the bodies, Picture to is closer so the carton would be behind the man standing there. Theory or not, nothing will come of this. I will say if this is really staged, these have to be some really dumb forces to take a picture of before the staging and after, then release them to be viewed. Oh well what can one expect anymore?

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  9. Is it possible a few may have been criminals and the battle went into an area where innocent people were? Yet the forces continued until all were dead? To justify killing some innocent they staged to make it appear they all were involved. Especially looking at the total.

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    1. yes. as in other extrajudicial killings. remember Tlatlaya? some people were kidnap victims. One survived and was imprisoned because she was not believed until pressure from the world intervened

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    2. this its true!!! real....

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  10. Not sure what rules Mexico may have at this point. But doesn't the military as well as police account for the ammunition they have when going out? So when presenting these items, wouldn't they be put into evidence leaving the Military short on the count they started with? Just wondering. Guess they made a stop on the way to pick of staging weapons. Just trying to make sense of where the abundance of extra weapons came from. Not doubting corruption, but unless they came to work with extra weapons from home, where did they come from in order for them to still have the same count they left with?

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    1. The government forces had 10 hours to plant even marihuana if they wanted, planting weapons or drugs to justify all these murders is even easier, but far as I have seen, no real narcos want to die in a shootout with the army of the police, most all the time they surrender, and an angry government, most all the time murders them, "en caliente", like Porfirio Diaz said, (while they are still hot) and they get applied "la ley fuga"...

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  11. Who cares. You catch your butt over there your gonna get whacked by the government either way. If their narcos so much the better.

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  12. I do not get it if the goverment got payback to me its good fight back the cartel with dirty tactics like they use as long as they were actually cartel members not innocent people. But like i said i dont get it you people get mad and hate the goverment because they killed cartel scum and defend the cartels this cheerleadind is getting out of control.

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    1. we are tired of the gob killing people. they kill all people. don't fool yourself federal police work for cartels also.

      innocents are killed and good people imprisoned, for mexico to become a valid democracy. In order to insure our due process, we must demand it for all equally, and allow the process to proceed

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    2. Blahh blahh blahhh.....
      If someone is shooting at you with an AK47 trying to kill you...what would you do? In this case a criminal..
      It's either you or him.

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    3. I agree. The government is screwed if they fight crime or if they dont.

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    4. "equal and fair treatment through the judicial system." is not going to happen anytime soon in Mexico. For now, justice is on the street.

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    5. Problem is that you don't know who these people are. Also if it happened the way the gob. says then why is everything appear staged?

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    6. To enhance the credibility of the government, no time to bring in televisa and do it all again en vivo y en directo, with dancing reporters and hosts in the style of mexican news...

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  13. Video looks fine

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  14. Does any one know the number of agents who partook in the slaughter?

    They where probably burning records or bodies of the ones they over tortured.

    3 hours is plenty to run out of ammo in a suprise attack with a mass amount of force. It would be easy to say "yeah we wont hurt you " then beat them to death.

    If I was mencho I would fill a super soaker full of L.S.D. and spray nieta with it.

    Technically it wouldnt be murder...

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    1. reforma reports that the number of federal soldiers were around 500

      against 60.

      they do look very weak having to resort to that. sadly mencho will turn it up.

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    2. In the US you have 10 to 20 for one suspect.

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    3. the art of war isn't to win fair fights...its to hit'em where they're weak and while you're at your strongest....throw a 1000 at 1 if you really want to win....it don't make you coward, just a winner, unless your using that strength against non combatants in a non war situation

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  15. Conspiracy theories.The gun was REMOVED not placed there!!! That's why they arm is at a different angle.

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    1. Glad someone mentioned it.Thats what I was thinking.One photo was before the guns were removed.The Mexicans cant be that dumb.

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  16. Asi como los cartels son sucios tambien sus contrarios. Si tu quitas una Vida , no chilles cuando te toke ati

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    1. pos no bas a tener tiempo pa chillar cuando te toca la tuya

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  17. Oh come on people, we are crazy, if these dead unarmed people were zetas and were killed by federals everybody would be glad, but this time were cjng and Mexico is sad, so what happens my people? Are we getting crazy? Do we like cjng? There is plenty evidence that mex marines killed zetas in cold blood, and everybody was happy and now this time are sad because cjng?

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    1. You make a good point..I guess there are people that see one cartel as less evil then another, or root for one over another. Even though they are all equal in destruction of Mexico, and her people. DWW

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    2. I agree 110%. However, I think the outrage is based on the military's abrasiveness to kill unarmed men in general. There are codes or rules of engagement with all military officials. When that goes, then regular citizens are at risk from abuse.

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    3. The heroic mexican juersaz of defense have took a bath of glorious shit murdering poor mexicans in cold blood again, if this was federal police and not army, it is still the same, no mercy on their targets, no matter who they are, irregardless of guilt...

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    4. sad but true here in l.a some people think of el chapo as a good person but they dont know the reality

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    5. Ask jose lopez haha.. All cartels arw shit... But some are lesser shitty then others..

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    6. the zetas were gaining fame for killing innocents and controlling the populations through fear, while these other cartels, CJNG especially, were trying to win hearts and minds by distinguishing themselves as opponents to the slaughter of innocents. whether the killed innocents or not, they cultivated a robin hood image instead of the boogie man image the zetas had....everyone wants the boogie man destroyed

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  18. Excellent report Lucio. It is obvious to live in Mexico or spend an abundance of time there.

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  19. the black squads not only kill suspected criminals but killed for social cleansing. el universal had an in depth report that someone posted here on bb a couple years ago

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  20. if it were not for honorable elements who send photos to blogs and the press we would never see it for ourselves. yes, technology as provided us we information like never before
    valor michoacan was sent 50 photos

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    1. Likes for u..

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    2. Exactly,and risking lives to photograph in certain situations..That is precisely why we do not need censorship or sheep bleating about images or video being posted..

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  21. This kind of crooked militars work for another cartel, could it be sinaloa cartel? Zambada? Lic? Because you cannot blame militars, is their boss or lieuteniant who send and receive orders and money from x cartel.

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    1. exacto ellos mandan gente como asta horita los siguen mandando y los que llegan no saben ni quienes son los malos, esta es una guerra cartel contra cartel pero como no entran ellos mandan al gobierno comprado,, si su poder tiene 40 años es porque trabajan pa la dea y son un cartel de sapos...

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    2. ay si ay si el mayo y el lic y los chapitos andan de sapos ay como me duele mucho ay no 40 Anos en el negocio y el gober comprado ayyy me muero de infarto no Que muy wuebudos y no aguantan la riata senores.

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    3. Se dise q Los de Sinaloa qiueren tumbarr al Mencho

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    4. @1:45pm
      Something along the lines you wrote.. Cjng wont be the same, give them rest of the year, when u arwnt lrotected anymore , thays hkw you end up running.. Like mencho is now..

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  22. In a lot of the photos the firearms have no magazines, but are still being held by the dead..

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  23. There is also a photo of a rifle with the wrong type of magazine with it, and no correct mags near it..plus of course bolts are open but no shell cases with empty mags laying in piles..very odd

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    1. ... Good Point ... Also, Some Of The Dead Guys Are Still Hanging On To Their Rifle With 1 Hand And There Are Not Any Magazines In The Rifles ... Zoom In On The Guy Who Is In Recessed In The Bushes For An Example ...

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    2. Yea I noticed that(my 6:44pm statement). The guy in the bush is the oddest one did they make the effort to go all the way back there and place it or take out the mag..or did they(dead guys) get surprised so quickly that they didn't have time to load, and charge their weapon(doubtful).Its funny it's finally hitting the main news services on the internet(Yahoo,MSN, etc.) and people are questioning the same thing. DWW

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    3. I noticed that too,the one guy in the picture by the house,he looks as though he was reclining and on the phone talking to his investment advisor?
      Staged or not ?

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    4. 6.59
      Oh ye the military don't execute narcos in NL or Mexico,are you trippin?
      A bit like this story right here that we are commenting on,do their job like that?

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  24. I seen some pics with knives in the stomach peace loks

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  25. We all know the police in Mexico are CORRUPT, EASILY BOUGHT & WORK for CARTELS. They have innocent blood on their hands just like any cartel dose. Do the math and read between the lines.

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    1. Como le doy like en esta madre? On a point

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    2. Mandale una estrellita, +1, or just "@10:45 like!!!

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  26. I myself dont think it matters if the mex gov is lying. The sicarios waged war on the first now the mex gov got even. In the end it will be covered up n forgotten like the rest of the news.

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    1. Let's be real.....
      It don't matter to you if the gobierno is lying because none of the deceased are related to you. Secondly you have no concrete evidence that the deceased were sicarios or members of any cartel.

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    2. Nor is evidence that they were innocents

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    3. Yes absolutly right buddy! If they werent from any cartel or sicarios they should of never ran to the ranch or driven in a convoy.

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    4. Let me guess.... you guys were there and witnessed the shoot out, I mean massacre.
      Farm workers drive in convoys and of course they are going to run when being fired at. Problem is you believe what a CORRUPT gobierno reports.
      Can someone explain to me why Gabachos believe everything the gobierno feeds them?

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    5. Because the gabachos believe in disneyland...

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    6. @11:38 is correct. Farm workers do travel in convoys. Migrant workers do this in John's Island,South Carolina every summer for the tomato season.

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    7. such a stupid comment about convoys. it was one truck...ONE. the only convoy was the federal,

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    8. @ 6:05 I'm holding up just 1 finger. Can u read between the lines? Lol.

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  27. Did the Mexican Army Just Massacre 42 People?

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/24/did-the-mexican-army-just-massacre-42-people.html

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  28. BB, Please inform the public when Mexico is on the chopping block. Some of us may want to go to the auction(s) even though the dirt is contaminated.

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  29. Easy......next time don't fucking SURRENDER ZETAS FROM NECTAR LIMA KNOQ THIS FIRST HAND. Si andas de estaka y t topas con los guachos o marina vale mas q le tires hasta q lo mates o t maten x que cuando t rindes los pinches guachos t quebran y los d LA marina ni se diga. Ala otra culeros pelean hasta morir x que es mejor morir peleando u que en rodillas pidiendo x tu Vida.

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    1. 8:54. Is your comment a narcomantas?

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    2. He's just telling the truth.Even people not involved but know what's up,know that many many young Zetas in NL are executed,some from Las Torres have been fucked up on the street then shot,girls too..

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    3. 3:25. Strange sense. Must be an assumed dark area scan

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    4. @ 4:17. Of the brain or environment

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    5. Los tamaulipas zetas i golfos surrender every day so i dont know what you talking abouth and they dont get executed most militarys do their jobs

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  30. Proceso article of today:

    another 43 killed not 8 in Villa Purificación not the 8 government said.

    DNA not sent through regular channels, bodies piled on top of each other and have badly decomposed. the government does not want it known there were innocents killed. mine workers. the city at pissed at the government who they say are threatening them and abusing them

    wtf is with the number "43"?

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    1. Dude as I write, I swear, you're the 43th comment. No shit!

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    2. Dayuum,spooky

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  31. Who actually owns the property these men were killed on?

    Have any names been released?

    Have no family members come forward yet?

    Where is the photo of the supposed dead soldier?

    My gut tells me these men were unarmed, lined up and executed.

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  32. It looks as though they were asleep and surprised,no shoes and tried to scatter in panic?The problem with killing like this is you don't know who is innocent?And it happens time and time again?How do we know,why did an element send in these pictures?

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    1. It looks like a few of them were chased down and ran over by trucks? Never mind why they sent in pictures, why they allowed pictures to be taken?

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    2. Some shot in legs,balls,buttocks in pictures sends message to not reckon with

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  33. Ok non-believers. Why did the initial group fire upon federal forces? Why did they make a run for it to that ranch? But the bigger question, What were there 43 people doing at a ranch that didn't belong to them?

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  34. TORNADO LEAVES FLOOD AND DESTRUCTION IN ACUÑA COAHUILA

    tornado touched down in colonia alto de santa peresa and santa rosa about 5AM
    this is the area when you drive to the soriana and go left

    lightning storms last night.

    flooding in that area is from new construction water line split, not from rain, which is light.

    cell phones are jammed
    landlines are problematic
    electric out city wide

    best to use skype

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    1. Also in piedras negras police found a mutilated body in a car, source: la rancherita del aire dot com

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  35. I just got home from a 6 week stay in Guadalajara, in fact I was there when the madness broke out on May 1 "dia de trabajo". What happened was a result of the gobierno not letting CJNG work the plaza after being paid off. The gobierno is playing both sides and half of you idiots cheer them on. The gobierno is responsible for all the madness taking place. Corruption at every level of the law only makes matters worse.

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  36. people think there was no dead soldier. the funeral coffin sure was lightweight, no see through glass at the head, no photo or name or even just a damn city.

    few are buying it.

    read chivis article about the innocents killed and black death squad I just read it
    good info

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  37. Why dont they just test the "sicarios" faces and hands for gun powder residue...

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  38. the people in town say the ranch was rented to the people, the owner lives in Jalisco.

    they say the helicopters gunned down the 43

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    1. It was rented to 42 people? How did townspeople see helicopters shooting people on the ground on a 100 ha ranch? They must have great eyesight!

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    2. what the news reports are saying there were 42 that worked for the people who rent it from the owner who never issued a complaint. information is coming out through the family of the dead. stay tuned

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  39. "No authority, government, agency, person can become, judge, jury and executioner. Each citizen, even suspected criminals, have the right to due process, meaning equal and fair treatment through the judicial system."

    When you shoot back at authorities (police, military, etc.) you will likely be killed, not arrested. Same is true for any country throughout the world.

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  40. Looks like as lease some were innocents. families say the young men went to work the ranch only 2 weeks ago. say bodies were missing teeth knocked out many bruises, 6 bodies burned, signs of torture

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  41. El debido proceso, la presunción de inocencia y el respeto a las garantías individuales y los derechos humanos son letra muerta, al igual que la Constitución

    La Comisión Nacional de Derechos Humanos (CNDH) documentó que soldados de la Secretaría de la Defensa Nacional (Sedena) violaron las garantías fundamentales de personas durante acciones contra el narcotráfico. Se denunciaron detenciones arbitrarias, tortura y disparos injustificados a civiles en Morelia, Huetamo, Uruapan y Tanhuato, Michoacán.

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    1. Esa comision de los derechos humanos nomas cagandola como siempre, los van a desaparecer tambien, por no esperar la version arreglada por televisa...

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  42. The caption that says " In photo 2 tactical gear belt appears, body appears to have been placed". Maybe the picture was taken after the gear was removed. It's not like they are gonna leave or throw away the tactical gear.

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