From Quadratin: 43 gunmen and only 3 federal element killed 6 incinerated vehicles....Heavy artillery was
found at the ranch, including anti-aircraft, 50. Cal and grenade launchers)
Although authorities
have not released official figures on the number of dead and wounded in the
clash that occurred Friday morning in Tanhuato, Michoacán, unofficially speaking
of between 15 and 43 dead.
Around 9:30 this morning a Federal Police convoy was attacked along the toll road leading from D.F. to Guadalajara.
This morning a shootout between members of the Federal Police and suspected members of CJNG was recorded on 371 km leading to Tinaja de Vargas on Ecuandureo-Tanhuato road.
Early reports spoke of two dead and one injured federal police, but through social networks citizens have reported that the figure is between 15 and 43 people, including civilians and members of the Federal Police.
The arrest of five
suspects is also reported, while the number of wounded is unknown.
Tanhuato is within the
limits of JalMich (Michoacán and Jalisco).
Sources in the Interior
Ministry, said that at 16:00 will be a press conference to give details.
Tanhuato Mayor, Jose Ignacio Cuevas Perez said in an interview with Radio Formula that elements of the Federal Police arrived at the Tinaja de Vargas community, when they were allegedly attacked and fired upon by civilians. Efe reports the FP were there to serve arrest warrants on organized crime members.
Tanhuato Mayor, Jose Ignacio Cuevas Perez said in an interview with Radio Formula that elements of the Federal Police arrived at the Tinaja de Vargas community, when they were allegedly attacked and fired upon by civilians. Efe reports the FP were there to serve arrest warrants on organized crime members.
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Pepe’s report:
CJNG - 40+ Killed in Narco/PF Clash on Mich./Jalisco Border
What supposedly
happened:
"It was around
8:30 in the morning, when, according to the latest reports, Federal Police saw
a
heavily armed convoy leaving Rancho El Sol, on the highway between
Ecuandureo-Tanhuato, at kilometer 370, very close to the pueblo of Tinaja de
Vargas, located within Ecuandureo.
At that moment, the
federal police ordered the convoy to stop, and the convoy opened fire, which
led to a 30 minute gun battle.
Immediately after this,
elements of the Mexican Army, Federal Police and Fuerza Cuidadana entered
Rancho El Sol, where they encountered another group of heavily armed
civilians."
As we saw in the first
post, this Ranch was apparently burned to the ground. In fotos and videos you
can see the smoke from the fire off the main highway.
Needless to say, a very
imbalanced casualty figure. We might be
looking at more "extra-judicial" killings by Mexican security forces.
Murder Death Kill Murder Death Kill Murder Death Kill Murder Death Kill Murder Death Kill.......with all this carnage in Jalisco don't be surprised when EPN does the unthinkable. Use your imagination BB nation.
ReplyDeleteIts war for them
ReplyDeleteMICHOACAAAAAAAAAAAAANOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSS!
ReplyDeletePuro Sinaloa loco
DeleteEstas mencho ?
DeleteSe les cayeron los huevos a los michoacanos lol
DeleteHahaha
DeleteNa murieron con artos huevos,kien sabe si tu mueras llorando
DeleteMurieron artos de plomo mas bien.
DeleteHartos=muchos, llenos, hasta el tope...full to the rim...
DeleteAtentamente the grammar police
We know whose wining
ReplyDeleteKnow One knows
DeleteThe PRI
DeleteYA ESTUVE CON LOS CHINALOUENCHES ,LOS MICHOACANOS COREMOS EL SHOW VALE,ARRIBA LA ANGOSTURA MICHOACAN
DeleteThe dudes that are dead don't seem to have any weapons.. where are they?
ReplyDeleteI Have no idea we have to wait and see
DeleteMaybe the cops picked them (the weapons) up so they didnt get shot by them.
DeleteIt is quite a stretch to suggest this was a case of "extra-judicial" killings.
Question: Were the narcos based at this ranch, or did they attack it and burn it, (like they have so many others), and then the cops caught them as they were leaving?
If there's no weapons next to them that means they were real criminals cause if they were innocents getting killed the feds would lay weapons down next to the bodies to make it look real.
DeleteThat's why they're dead
DeleteWhy isn't the government reporting losses on there side ?? There's lots of dead people from both sides!!
ReplyDeleteI think the Mexican government hides figures of losses they have from their side.
DeleteReally todavia quieres mas ningun cartel los habia hecho ver tan pendejos como cjng si muchos an matando soldados o marinos pero no fuerzas especiales al menos no un grupo tan grande oficialmente 8-9 gente de la region dice que mas de veinte y como seis sicarios los diferencian por la ropas
DeleteYes they do in reality they lost lots of federales again but can't afford to bring that to light if not it would another lost for the government of Mexico not good for their image
DeleteI follow with interest happenings in Mexico from here. May God give you peace in your country friends.
ReplyDeleteGreetings from Nigeria.
Nice sentiment Kayode,greetings to you in Nigeria
DeleteNachos son Mencho is a deadly SOB
ReplyDeleteHes not even related to nacho wth?
DeleteCalled sarcasm
DeleteLa escuela se aprende no se hereda
Deletealmost all of the dead were criminals
ReplyDeleteBetter training better weapons better equipment battery back up.
DeleteGood one, next battle the government should use drones. Don't take any prisoners if the criminals start shooting.
ReplyDeleteGovernor of Michoacan said 43 dead: 42 civilians and 1 military guy. That sounds like a US operation where 40-80 bad guys get killed for every US soldier they get. somethings fishy, or the mexican military is getting better.
ReplyDeleteNow i want to see on the next ambush how many federales are going to die i estimate 30
ReplyDeleteheard 40 bad guys died
ReplyDeleteNot playing by the Mexican Government rules. CJNG will soon be just another disorganized gang selling baggies of dope in Mexico for a fraction of the profit of those that work with the government to move it north. They f'd up in Veracruz and have continued to prove they don't know how the business is done in Mexico.
ReplyDeleteMEXICO IS SUCH A WONDERFUL PLACE--no wonder they are all coming to the USA
ReplyDeleteDon't worry, you'll gradually start seeing less going to the USA cause more and more are getting killed. As long as they are criminals getting killed it's good.
DeleteI am sure they need to kill 40,000 wish they would start in Tamps.
Delete@6:07 infiltration into North Amercia happens daily. Come down 2 the border and see it for yourself. As long as $ is being paid coyotes will always exist. Meanwhile keep living in your fantasy thats its going 2 someday completely stop.
DeleteCuidado hablando asi contra Tamp. Ok? T.M.
DeleteYawnnnn
DeleteActually it was thr oder way around federales attacked cjng they say the local narco chief was killed or captured.
ReplyDeletewe are going with Reforma's latest report 15 min ago.
Deletewaiting for official account. most say CJNG ambushed although I agree it makes more sense the other way around.
where are you getting your info from?
I have a question. If chivis can answer it that would be great. We all know that america and europe are big buyers in drugs and thats how the cartels make their money. But what doesnt make sense is how do they saty rich if their supplies are being raided by police and most of it never makes it to the buyer. Aside from extortion and robbery in means of getting money does anyone in mexico buy drugs like crazy like they do in america in order to make the cartels rich or is it just purely american and europeans making cartels rich???
Deletewe are going with Reforma's latest report 15 min ago.
Deletewaiting for official account. most say CJNG ambushed although I agree it makes more sense the other way around.
where are you getting your info from?
Mexican drug use is fueled by the lower members of cartels getting paid in species, they eat it or sell it, and they have to sell it gram by gram to make the pesos to live and pay the police and military and their plaza owners, the squeeze causes all the problems, but who cares? It is not like the gramero union is going to get in the middle...
Delete--it is like it all over the world, farmers, workers, producers, do not get paid what the work is worth, the middle men get better pay, but about 90% belongs to the big business that trade it all, control prices, own the banks, decide on where war gets done, where and how money gets laundered and invested, etc etc etc, and none of it is up to no poor people in the world...
Weird, this area (thanhuato and the sorounding areas) are not controlled by controlled by cdjng.
ReplyDelete@ 4:36 PM
DeleteI was thinking, if the numbers are correct (42 CJNG dead, 1 PF dead) then could it possibly be a massacre of Autodefensas by the Federal Police? Isn't Tanhuato where Autodefensa leader Enrique Hernandez was assassinated?
Thoughts anyone? It sounds crazy but this Mexican government does the unthinkable
CJNG has a strong presence there, search of the new cjng map of mich they are in that entire jalisco-mich border cities this is relatively new of the last year
DeleteCan anyone upload a video of the shootout?
ReplyDeleteit's war! CJNG vs Government, who will win? will CJNG retaliate with a higher body count against the government? find out next time on Dragon Ball Z!
ReplyDeleteAhora si michuacanos aver si como ladran muerden CJNG ya esta en sus tierras vayan buscando su huevos aver si los encuentran puro jalisco no hay mas orgulloso tapatio
ReplyDeleteSi el jefe de CJNG es de michoacan jajaja
DeleteTas bien pendejo. Major callate el puto osico. CJNG es puro Michoacano
DeleteNo mas por q el jefe sea de michoacan no se enifica que todos son de ay el Mencho enpeso en Jalisco y la mayoria son jaliskillos y michiacanos undios jamas seran bensidos yo tengo primos q son de cj y son 100% jalisiences y ademas miren el nimble que usan tambien tienen gente de guerrero de Colima Sinaloa y muchos mas Asi que que importa!
DeleteEs todo jalisco michoacan colima y guerrero el cartel nueva generacion
Delete"#Tanhuato al ataque fue por parte del CJNG, se presume que se abatió al jefe de plaza de LA BARCA , Jalisco , alias el BAYO ." - @ValorMichoacan on Twitter
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't make sense that 42 CJNG sicarios would be dead and only 1 Federal dead if the police were ambushed. The FP death toll must be much higher.
You can tell that AR was planted on that dude with the red shirt.. The position of his body with the way the rifle is laying there just dont add up
ReplyDeleteAll of a sudden
DeleteSo you have seen a lot of people KIA in combat after a battle? I have; looks natural to me.
DeleteIdk if i'm against extra judicial killings but man do those guys have no respect for life.
ReplyDeleteThe battle and the war on drugs will never be won. The cartels have so many people who will die for them. And many who will replace those who die..... Asi Es la Vida....
ReplyDeleteYou right, that is why Mexico will never be a safe place again
DeleteThe numbers dont add up there should be more federal police killed. Im suspecting extrajudicial killings on the federal police part . Is this a revenge killings on CJNG because of the failed Operation Jalisco operation that resulted in the downed chopper?
ReplyDeleteEver seen an ambush where things don't go right?
DeleteEverything about the Mexican Federal Police is fishy. Never trust what they say because the truth is never told. Kill a bunch of males, plant weapons on them, say you were ambushed by CJNG. Yeah right!!!
DeleteHas Hillary says "What does it Matter" Ha Ja Ja
DeleteIt does matter because next time it could be you and your compadres on a rancho getting f***ked up by the Federales.
Deleteo f **** d por CJNG . cual prefieres?
DeleteMichoacan is where they have killed most of the federales
ReplyDeleteI apologize I keep commenting!
ReplyDeleteOkay so Enrique Hernandez is from Yurecuaro. I know now.
Now my question was how is it an ambush if the firefight took place at a ranch with flat land surrounding the area. The federal police knew where to go. They would have seen any movement by CJNG going on.
Comment all you like dude,you add to conversation,and the points you make are valid
DeleteDefinitely sounds strange,wonder if CJNG were ambushed at the rancho?CJNG got no love from authorities now,its kill or be killed on sight its goin off everytime they are spotted and they know it.More to come on this one?
ReplyDeleteJust call it payback for having shot a helicopter down.
ReplyDeleteLa platica por ay es que se tumbaron al bayo y que son unos 20 federales muertos
ReplyDeleteCjng had to wait until z40 captured before they start big shit. Pussies.
ReplyDeleteLol that's awesome
DeleteAlas we may never know what actually happened. It was remote. The press and civilians are terrified to report facts. The PF will offer one version, sicarios the other. Unlike the PJF of old the new cops at least don't come around demanding piso. Can't say the same for sicarios. I shake my head at the pendejos who support los malos. It is obvious they do not live here in Mexico. I can hope for the day soldados turn in coronels and generales for corrupcion.
ReplyDeleteAnd the gringos do nothing to intercept bloques de billetes going south. Gringos do nothing to search cargo containers. That is where most of the drugs are going north and most of the dlls are coming south.
Tell me this old wise ones.....
Mil de millones de dlls come to Mexico. How is it possible traylores de cargos de efectivo get washed? Where do the dlls go? Who has toneladas de pesos to pay? Something is very wrong and this business cannot be anything but oficialy sancionned at the highest levels of gobernacion.
Most of the billions of dollars never come back to mexico, about 90% of it is surplus earnings, and get laundered and offshored to the cayman islands, panama, virgin islands, switzerland, england, china...to reinvest as clean profit all over the world...
Delete--Why do you think LatinAmerica is so poor after all the drug trafficking over the last 70 years?
-- Why do you think the rich countries are so rich, pay their people higher salaries, get vacations and vacation houses, cars, properties, retirement funds, savings, weapons, modern armament, and all the accoutrements of money?
-- They do not get it the old way, they steal all of it, from all the poor that still get sold down the river...
--the myth of the rich latin american drug traffickers is just that, a myth while useful...
Yup, every photo I have seen the guns look planted. and casings missing, should be a massive amount. In Iguala there was over 1000 after the second round of gun attack.
ReplyDeleteHi chivis, can i get your input on the zetas cartel, why we don't hear anymore from them. we hear of CDG alot but we haven't heard from the zetas nothing at all. are they loosing territory? are they winning? no shootouts with rivals or captured zetas lately. thank you very much chivis.
DeleteHi, chivis, "iddede" a chance that because there are no big news about the setas youses are reporting the big news, shootout, murders, and appearances of manipulation and official sanctioned murders of innocent in here, Tanhuato?
DeleteOK now is Guerrero cartel and 1st it was Jalisco's make up you're mind jokers
ReplyDeleteDo you think they were firing on autodefensas Chivis? Would the ADs have control of that ranch?
ReplyDeleteNo I don't. But the government is now saying they only found 10 bodies. we will never know the truth.
DeleteEl ranching de don bayo fue enboscado por los pepos vamos con todo y por todos cisimos fuego fuego vamos atenerr
ReplyDeleteThis is all so ridiculous. Constant war. "I have to sell drugs" Also using dope addicts as your front line defense. Real smart. This cartel is on their way out like all the other ones. Constant mistakes. On previous post many mentioned how well informed this "Mencho" dude is. Guess he missed this phone call! Just way too many criminals swarming around in that country. When they catch or kill him, a new one will surface. Also to the person saying "Where are the weapons?", I saw weapons. And not your ordinary handgun either.
ReplyDeleteW u talking about? Cjng ambushed federal police they killed lots of them..you will see.
Delete8:24 Like I said they will be dismantled. Where did you read an ambush By CJNG? The next post clearly states the frontline dope addicts were killed. Put those pom poms away and save them for the next criminal culprit. Mencho has far too many mistakes and drawing way to much attention to exceed. Time for the NSA to work their magiic again. Like they did with all the otherleaders.
Delete11:33 Mencho Wants You!!!
DeleteHe knows he needs a strategist to tell him what to do, when to do it, who to do it with, and to whom, where and, well, you seem to be the answer to his prayers...
--Good luck, enjoy the prime steaks or the maruchan...
... Lack Of Weapons, Pillows And Blankets Everywhere As If They Were Sleeping, Bodies Look Placed, Goverment Assasination Of Criminals? ... All Government Agencies, Police, Army, Navy, Who Go After Criminals In Mexico Should Have To Wear GoPro Video Cameras Or Similar So We Can Start To Believe Mr. Peña Niéto / Mexican Government ... Between The 43 Students And These People, That's Nearly 100 People Executed/Killed By The Government In Only 2 Incidents ... Show Us Video/Pictures Time Stamped Before You (Mexican Govt.) Alter/Modify The Crime Scene ...
ReplyDeleteThey should do the same to the cops in the US.
DeleteThere were embedded reporters with cameras on iraq and afghanistan, they could not keep track of all the criminal activities of the american military or its private contractors, what makes you think the mexican soldiers would make it work?
DeleteWhy do most of them have their shoes missing?
ReplyDeleteApparently they got caught sleeping. Remember criminals can't sleep well at night looking over their shoulders or somerimes they party hard all night and get up late.
Deleteoh yes, they sure look as though they were partying.
Deleteit was 10am btw
Disagree about the AR15 being planted. it looks like the guy had it in his left hand and that's where he, and it, fell. My interpretation.
ReplyDeleteAlso, re blankets, if they had taken over the ranch they would have to sleep somewhere. that's what the phone tip reported - that they had taken it over.
Cant realy ambush feds from ur house,alot of dead guys by da house?
ReplyDeleteIt's well shady dude,they were capped by the house trying to bail out,maybe authorities were chasing a crew on a truck,but them ambushing authorities?But,they all know what their into and what's gonna happen
Delete"Anonymous phone tip" like the one that fingered el lazca for his apparent last meal of lead...incredible, one anonymous call had so much power, when no calls for help were attended when the ayotzinapos called, and the army was right there, but on another mission, kidnapping the calling students...
DeleteTanhuato is a town that for years has been considered territory of the Jalisco Cartel. Tinaja de Vargas is well known to produce mean vicious killers. I do not mean that everybody in Vargas are killers but it is sure noticeable that bad ass folks come from that area. Yurecuaro is also Jalisco Cartel territory. I know for I am from those whereabouts. My folks been there since the 1840's. Last week the candidate for Mayor of Yurecuaro got it. Now so many supposedly killed criminals at the Rancho del Sol and only 1 Fed down, surely is not comprehensible. Conclusion it was a MASSACRE, blood party for the Feds against who were mostly farmworkers and ranch hands. Feds in that area are real crooked and are known to do shakedowns on anybody they wish to do so, just as long as they are the majority and you are at a disadvantage. Poor bastards who got killed, mostly hard working innocent folk, whose only crime was to be workhands in a ranch for nickels and dimes a day, if not pennies. Now when it come to the Mayor of Tanhuato, that guy is so corrupt and crooked. His gang at City Hall have done nothing but rake the $ from the town vault. Buying mansions and expensive vehicles. By doing a little research you can see ém posting pics of their "extravanganzas" on Facebook. Once again Feds had their blood bath party. Poor folks paid the tab. Shame on the Mexican government.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the inside scoop
Delete@9:15.... with blackhawks and Army and reinforcements called in? I could understand if it was JUST the Feds... but this was much bigger. Not saying it's impossible, just does not seem likely. Why would they kill ranch hands? For what purpose?
ReplyDeleteThe mexican army already did their part murdering the Tlatlayos and kidnapping and disappearing the ayotzinapos...
Delete--time for the federal police to earn some credibility as assassins for epn...
The score tied up now, lets see who makes the next move to break the tie...ITS A WAR GOD DAMN IT, TAKE NO PRISONERS!!!
ReplyDeleteShoot down a military helicopter and embarrass Mexico in front of the world and you will pay a price.
ReplyDeleteThey have been embarrassed
DeleteNo Que muy vergas that's half of them right there .
ReplyDeleteIn Estados Unidos it's not news. Maybe had they been Muslim then it would be front page. So sad to see.
ReplyDeleteYeah sure starve your people, spit on their dignity, mock of their helplessness, nothing more embarrassing than that for Mexico and WHO will pay the price? NOBODY! Why, cuz who in tarnations cares, has been, is and always will be, any poor guys death will do... to bandage a corrupt governments "honor".
ReplyDelete36 semiautomatic weapons confiscated. Must be a rough "alfalfa ranch". Do all ranch hands in MX carry semis? Conspiracy theories sound pretty silly here...36 weapons, ~40 dead, it all adds up to cartel to me.
ReplyDeletewow, I guess we should take the federal police at their word, they never plant guns, for sure, you are right, and the people know nothing.
Deleteyup.
Do ranches typically stock 50 caliber weapons or did the feds plant that? I understand the cynicism of the gov but nobody here has presented any credible evidence that this is not a battle with CNJ. Suspicion of government fabrication is not evidence of fabrication.
DeleteSuspicion of the federal government versions of the facts, means the government is suspect once again, that the people does not believe the government, and that there are plenty of reasons for that suspicion and contempt that 80 to 90% mexicans have of their "government" imposed, bought and paid for by other cuntries ...
DeleteKeep it up fucktards . What is this 200,000 dead and missing in 10 years ? Mexico is a giant graveyard.
ReplyDeleteFuckin mex government they think they staged it good the people ain't going to buy this shit but they will put it out there any ways there as bad as the cartels!
ReplyDeletemex gov, punish cj by kill civ.
ReplyDeleteAhí estan sus Michoacacas jotos del CJNG puro CDS mugrosos!
ReplyDeleteY Arriba Sinaloa, Jalisco y Monterrey!
Gallito Regio
Arriba CDS y vintillo que entrego a sus hermanos ahora ahi estan el mayo trato con los gabachos pa que le traten bien a los hijos y el chapo en mexico pa que no le den visa gringa son enemigos pero no se van al cien porque se conocen tan bien que no durarian ni un mes mejor hipocritas hay chinga quedito a la verga cds puro cjng y sonora
Deletehater
DeleteI wonder if mexico will die, and several new countries will spring up in the future? Will USA let it happen?
ReplyDeleteFuck most of u idiots pochos and gueros vengan y miren seguro nunca mas comentan . ingrown nail its not a big deal as long as its not yours right pendejos chingen su madre sigan creyendo the goverment reports. Mencho himself report este acontecimiento desde 400 kilometros de distancia el govierno queria un golpe grande y mencho les dio al menos un numero grande les dio cien pero los pendejos nomas mataron la mitad recuerden este paisa mencho va a se capturado " sin ningun tiro o muerto como el lazca o macho prieto"
ReplyDeleteYou're right.. I looks like the goverment did this to make up for the downed helicopter and yes, I won't be surprised if these 43 were set up by both their employer and the goverment.
DeleteThe people against the house... i don't see any bullet holes in the walls behind them??
ReplyDeleteWhat are all those dark marks on the wall? Do you see those?
DeleteGreat Job! Need more of this!! Keep up the good work brothers!!
ReplyDeleteIt's hard for me to believe killing of any kind is good. Whether it be of evil people or not. Other humans should not take godly actions when it comes to deciding who lives or does based on their actions. They will get their judgement when it comes time, not when we say so. I am truly heart broken over these photos. This is a very unfotunate day and my heart goes out to the family's. Evil has been committed today.
ReplyDeleteIts in our nature to kill(guys)and kill very easily,it will never end never.And i do believe some people give up their human rights by their actions,human life is not divine,not sacred,just life.
DeleteIt shouldn't take 3 Hours to kill 42 people.
ReplyDelete... Air Support Had To Be There As The Federal Police Are Not That Good Of Shots
ReplyDelete42 sicarios dead versus 1 federale. Sounds to me like these sicarios, or street thugs, need to learn how to shoot their weapons. I thought these cartel sicarios were supposed to be a bunch of badasses. Sounds to me like they are only effective when they are surprisingly ambushing people or cutting heads off of these already tied up. Sad thing is, they make "chump change" compared to what the cartel bosses are pulling in. Maybe they need to spend some money on firing lessons and guerilla warfare training.
ReplyDeleteThis might be yet another massacre of innocent people to accommodate the Mexican governments agenda...auto defensas maybe?? Maybe it was sicArios but why so many inconsistencies and mysterious pictures with bodies with weapons and after no weapons..guess we will never know the actual facts but only what the media would like to realease
DeleteGod it looks so shitty to be a sicario.. livinglike a hobo, butwith an ak.. look at the back patio.. youcan tell thats where they had been sleeping.. get 400 a month to put your life on the line and never get anywhere but dead..ye i know tge poor in that country make the poor here in the us look rich, but still, i couldnt live like that and still have enough morale left to fight for the cartel that im there for.. maybe im too intelligent and would realize that i can be so easily desposed of, but i would end up going and killing my bosses after not too long.. atleast id have killed the right people before i die.. this is so damn senseless..
ReplyDeletethere probably all too high to shoot straight. Bunch of coked up losers.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure there was more federales dead than just one. really? 3 hour shootout from both sides and only one federal dead. think about it. plus, your talking about michoacan, the state where more federales have been killed then any other state... I smell bullshit!!!!!
ReplyDeleteUna nueva revolucion pa mi mexico chinga su madre el gobierno viva zapata y villa si va ver sangre k sea pa mejorar mi mexico
ReplyDeleteNo Bueno
ReplyDeletel34h
No creo que los mataron por ser santitos. Payback is a bitch called Karma. Si andas trabajando entre la mierda tarde o temprano te vas enbarrar.
ReplyDeleteThe message from the gvt is give up Mencho or we will "TAKE NO PRISONERS" and destroy you.
ReplyDeleteThe gvt is probably in contact with CJNG lieutenants with that offer.
And then you can get back to business with the understanding who is the big boss!
The evidence, photos and videos, we have been shown does not jive with some of the media descriptions (which presumably were obtained from the govt). One description referred to the "vast" ranch. 500+ acres does not make a vast ranch. There was no livestock, cattle, horses, or sheep which you would normally see on a ranch.
ReplyDelete500 acres does make a pretty good sized farm and the photos show fields with well tended crops. The one outbuilding shown in photos looks like a packing shed for produce. There appears to be large pieces of farm machinery nearby. The house does not appear to be burned to the ground as some reports indicated.
The purpose of pointing out these things is to get a picture in our minds of what the scene really looked like.
Now if you are a sicario or member of the cartel and you hear the shooting taking place up near the gate, and see the federal police descending on you, what would you do? Run across open flat farmland where the cops have a clear shot at you and there is no place to hide or hunker down inside the house and use it as a fortress?. The govt.s version of the bad guys scattering across the fields (to explain why there was no concentration of bodies or casings in one area) just doesn't ring true. Brings to mind those "guaranteed" kill hunts where a deer hunter is stationed off the side and deer are released from a pen to run across an open area in front of the hunters.
México está en ruinas debido a los cárteles y lo único que le preocupa es la policía mexicana puesta en escena de una escena con decano sicarios. Qué pasa con ustedes? Sin embargo, estos sicarios murieron es bueno para el país de México.
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