It is
the U.S. Penitentiary Administrative Maximum Facility in Florence
Colorado. Built as the “Alcatraz of the
Rockies”, escape proof with the highest security in the United States. Built to house the worse of criminals.
Mexican narcos incarecerated in ADX:
Francisco
Javier Arellano Felix (AFO) The life in prison
sentence for former drug cartel leader Francisco Javier Arellano Félix has been
reduced to 23 1/2 years because he’s provided crucial information to the
government that has led to prosecutions in the U.S. and Mexico, according to
federal court records.
Juan
Garcia Abrego (CDG) serving 11 consecutive life sentences
Osiel
Cardenad Guillen (CDG) serving 25 year sentence pleading guilty, release date 2025
The
Concrete Cell
- There is a Stainless steel toilet/sink/water source combination.
- A stationary concrete desk and stool sits in the cell
- A slim 4” wide 40" high window has a view of the courtyard
- Inside cell shower with a timer
- A concrete slab bed
- An enclosure within the cell with bars, used for added isolation and security Solid walls prevent prisoners from seeing other cells or having direct contact with other inmates.
Routine
The
prison has 8 housing units that can accommodate up to 500 inmates. All food is
presented though a slot through the door.
Inmates remain in cells for visits with clergy or physicians. They are inside the cell in solitary
confinement for 23 hours per day, with 10 hours a week for exercise inside a "cage".
Inmates
have access to books and some magazines.
They
have almost no human contact and can go days without speaking to anyone.
Former Warden Says Death Is Better Than Life In Supermax in this video about the Boston Marathon Bomber, he was subsequently transferred to ADX.
One must remember, their visits if allowed and minimal will be done via video. They need to request usage of a piece of paper and pencil and the tv only has prison videos which is only on for 2 to 3 hours depending if they are allowed. There are no sports games, soap operas or news on the tv's. And one must gain the privilege to have the power turned on for the tv and that could take months to years to get.
ReplyDeleteSomething else Inmates have little contact outside of guards and prison staff. They must wear leg irons, handcuffs and stomach chains when taken outside their cells -- and be escorted by guards. A recreation hour is allowed in an outdoor cage slightly larger than the prison cells. Inside the cage, only the sky is visible. True meaning for the living dead.
I bet that is not even chapo. And if it is. He will walk free. He is a farmer
DeleteDamn chapo....hes going there!?
DeleteThis place terrifies me. . One of Chapos "friends" should have played him the 60 min episode on this place.. Or read him something about just how bad this place really is. I have a feeling he'd still be chilling with Mayo in the mountains of Sinaloa. Hopefully for Chapo he has a heart attack or dies sometime soon. I wouldn't wish this place on anybody.
ReplyDeleteTheres a guy in ADX named Thomas Silverstein. He's been in solitary since the late 80's if I remember right. And I think Hannibul from The Silence of the Lambs was loosely based on him. As far as I know, Silverstein is still the only person in the federal system that has the status "NO HUMAN CONTACT"
You are correct. Thomas Silverstein is labeled by the DOC as the most dangerous inmate they have.. He has killed 2 Correction officers if I remember correctly, both in the Federal Penitentiary. "Aryan Brotherhood."
DeleteHe didn't eat anyone, he was in jail for robbery and killed 3 guards while in jail. That's why they made an example out of him.
DeleteYou're rite I forgot too add that he did not eat anyone, nor did Thomas Silverstein have anything to do with Hannibal Lecter or vice versa.
DeleteExcerpts from Thomas Silverstein sworn testimony against BOP (personally, fuck him he got what he deserves) anyway, he feels deprivation of going years without seeing “a single tree, a blade of grass, or any sign of nature.”
DeleteHe described the outdoor recreation area at the ADX — where he can take 10 steps in either direction and 30 steps if he walks in a circle — as similar to standing “inside of a deep, empty swimming pool.”
“I couldn’t see any of the mountains, even though I knew they had to be close by,” he said.
He added: “Other than infrequent haircuts, strip searches, and medical examinations, the only physical human contact I have experienced in 28 years is when BOP officers handcuff me and escort me.”
To me that is great news, I always believed in the death penalty but this isolation and emotional torture is much better. If Manson was federally convicted and ended up there he would not last as Chapo will not survive dealing with his personal demons and upcoming nightmare at ADX.
Damn! I was planning to ask Dr Silverstein about how to make somebody eat their own face, but now i see, he didn't create that...any suggestions? Please help!!!
DeleteEvery day he is snitching is a day not at ADX. When he has given up everything he knows and possesses then they will toss this used up POS in ADX to rot. With Lucy he will not go so mad as to lose his sense of misery.
ReplyDeleteWrong dummy he still considered innocent but when he gets found guilty then they will throw his ass in Florence adx and throw away the key.
Delete1216. Question is what are the chances that is not Guzman? Guzman pics appear similar to Ismael
DeleteThe government is going to need to offer incentive. He has a mega vault of information and can put away the big players and reduce the drug flow... If he playes his cards he could be ok.:
DeleteThis is why we don't need the death penalty in America, we've built prisons that are so soul-crushing that serving time in them is a fate worse than death. You talk to most any American convict (especially in the shitty-ass state prison systems) and the majority would rather have a death sentence than a sentence of life without the possibility of parole.
ReplyDeleteJuan Garcia Abrego did not sing, that got him 11 consecutive life sentences, for not singing and for knowing too much.
DeleteVicente zambada pled guilty, the CIA refused to testify and Chente got his 25 years, 15 to go, pay 2 billion dollars at the cashier.
Osiel 25 years, 200 million dollar fine
3l güero Palma, out after being charged on trumped up charges
--The twins work for the DEA, they are almost free, and they get to keep all their money...
Is it possible that they are really conquering all the busiNess from everybody?
Yeah but they're expensive as hell to maintain. There should be no life sentences just executions. Would save us a whole helluva lot of coin.
DeleteBut people get paid big time for these places so you know how that goes...
Prisons are a great business for some and a way of life for their warehouse guards.
Delete--The russians give their prisoners one shot at freedom...
on the back of the head.
The russians execute summarily, but they don't have conflicts of interest or charge the state half a million dollars a year per inmate or per death penalty carried out.
DeleteThese american politicians are just soo "money smart" expensive the US would be better off without their nalgas around playing Corporate Welfare Queens.
Life WITH parole should be the greatest penalty in the US prison system
DeleteDid anyone know that the Quakers, paragons of peace, sic, were the first at this. Eastern State penitentary, Pennsylvania, was the first modern american prison. Solitary confinment for years drove many folks mad. Charles Dickens said this was the cruelest place he saw when he visited America. It was the model modern prisons were based on.
ReplyDeleteGood post.
Delete-Sarai Fan Club
the penopticom
DeleteDamn chapo even the former warden said death is better than supermax you dumb fuck should of went out like a boss!!
ReplyDeleteGreetings and salutations 2 all my buttercups. Keep the curses flying my way. Me being the masochist that I am I look forward 2 all those blessings. - Sol Prendido
ReplyDeleteYou sound sad.
Delete10:55 masochists are not suppossed to talk beech!
DeleteWhat you are is ahomother thing beech,
shut up and get back to the worm, I mean to work!
Enough with this propaganda. This is unlikely Chapo will end up here. This prison is not a Federal prison and Chapo is a federal offender.
ReplyDeleteLol it has the WORST Federal offenders in America. Wake up. This is where he will be living.
DeleteADX is a federal prison
DeleteThis is a federal institute.
DeleteThis is a federal institute for the worst threats. Chapo ain't no threat to anyone except to escape!
DeleteSmoking?
DeleteFucking idiot. It's a federal prison. You think they're putting terrorists in the county jail?
DeleteDid you read where it is says Federal in the article. Can you actually read?
DeleteLooks way better than where he was at
ReplyDeleteI agree...
DeleteLooks, are deceiving. This place is much worse.
DeleteHow many prisoners have died in SuperMax? Everyone is talking about solitary confinement, but you haven't heard anyone die from that. Chapo will be fed n kept warm. SuperMax is better than Deathrow
ReplyDeleteThe actor Woody Harrelson father was the first inmate to die at ADMAX.
Delete~Spectator
The only murder in Florence ADX to date was at the hands of La Eme. Longtime Eme soldier Manuel "Tati" Torrez was beaten to death by Richard "Chuco" Santiago and Eme associate Silvestre Rivera. The execution is on film and is often misidentified in documentaries as an AB hit but in reality it was La Eme.
DeleteThe feds will keep Chapo far away from the carnales. There is growing concern in law enforcement about allowing La Eme to interact with imprisoned Mexican cartel leaders. Eme members have already started to cross the boarder to work for the cartels: David “Popeye” Barron, Jose "Bat" Marquez and Martin “Evil” Madrigal who is currently serving a sentence in a Mexican prison.
3:19 Woody's demented father was not even close to being the 1st inmate to die there. He died in 2007, countless others died many years before that scum croaked.
DeleteWasn't that Harrelson boy one of the hobos in the CIA train by the fence that ALSO SHOT JFK With the same rifle and bullet?
DeleteOf course none of them ever talked for the record, they knew the leader must be protected.
Even the donal' who had been the people's hope for gettino the truth and the secrets of the CIA and the DEA out is getting threathened by friend and foe for his ties with russian mobsters, BLADDERMIR PUTIN's mafya and his bathing habits to keep his mamadora quiet, BLADDERMIR ARRIVED TO POWER ON THE SHOULDERS OF VIDEO TAPPING ARTISTS, he used to be a HYUGE FAN OF VIDEO TAPES that send him to the arms of a Boris Yeltsin and has fotos of him and the donal' barechested riding on a horse, google images.
9:46 It was ADX but NOT at the supermax part of the prison.
Delete5 or 6 confirmed suicides, several more attempted suicides. I read about one poor guy who slashed his wrists (or throat) and was taken to a hospital where he recovered but soon after was sent right back to the same cell and was given a mop and bucket by guards and was forced to clean up the dried blood off the floor.
DeleteSol prendido was wrong.
ReplyDeleteChapo will teach the Warden n Guards how to make Champurado⛾⛾☕☕
ReplyDeleteLol
DeleteMaking champurrao is easy, painting the walls with it and making it run all over the floor is better...
DeleteThis morning my wife woke me up and said babe go brush your teeth and I did instantly. We then kissed hard and a few minutes later we were 69 ing. Had some awesome sex on my California King size bed with a 600 down comforter. It's raining outside here in California and I can hear and see the rain posing outside my windows. I have a beautiful view of the San Gabriel mountains and I can hear my daughters laughing and my dogs barking. In a few minutes I'll be getting ready to hit the gym and then start preparing for a 3 day trip in San Francisco. On my way up Ullman visit a few friends and my dad will help me drive up there. God damn I'm lucky. Why? Because I made my luck the right way not like chapo. Don't idolize this monster. I almost feel sorry for him, this super max F it terrifies me too.
ReplyDeleteGood way to wake up but he has his story and you have yours.were all diffrent some one had to be the boss of El cartel.
DeleteNobody cares about your stupid boring life buddy!!
DeleteBest post I've ever seen in comments
DeleteAnd your point is what? I live a normal beautiful life but I'm not going to put online to try to feel better about myself chapo is chapo. I and you will never ever live the life chapo did
DeleteLmao
DeleteDamn,for a minute i thought i was reading my life story,except i don't have any friends in Ullman...hahaha
DeleteCan someone please add a like button? Please. 69'n in the morning... Oi este!!
DeleteHaha, you had me going until you said you got kids. Then i knew you were full of shit. Those days are over when u have kids.
DeleteChapo had respect power and money though. You act like your life was better than his lol
DeleteLmao guys for reals, relax my point is that I feel sorry for this guy. All that power and money for what? I rather be poor and work my ass off for the fam than to do it dirty and always worry about getting caught and ending up in misery. I could care less for power however I do make a decent living. And yeah my life is definitely waaaaaaay better than chapos ESPECIALLY now! The moral of the story is do shit the legit way and you won't end up in misery. And it's true guys, I do still have bomb sex w my wife. And chapo I doubt he'll ever masturbate again lol
Delete5:56 lmao
DeleteChapo has something you'll never have, balls. And this world needs men like that to go against the grain. Don't get me wrong we need worker bees/softies like you that lay their taxes and go to work meanwhile your wife gets plowed by Sancho. There are lions and there are deer. You can't get mad at the lion for eating the deer it's the way the world works mijo. A Salud!
DeleteNo one cares about you having "bomb sex" with the hog you call a wife. Chapo woke up for 40 yrs str8 and did whatever in the world he wanted including models and the hottest girls in Mexico. He never had to wake up and listen to anyone tell him what to do, he did it his way and lived like a king and supported lots and lots of families by providing work in the poorest areas of Mexico. He now pays the price of his lifestyle but he would do it all again given the chance. Dont beleive everything you read, el Jefe wasnt a blood thirsty monster like they say.
DeleteOsiel Cardenas guillien negotiated not to be sent here an then ended up being sent...I'm sure chapo we do the same...an in typical fashion the U.S.A we go back on their word an say oh your a two time escapee....ouch
ReplyDeleteThats right. Us doesn’t give a fuck.
DeleteBecause Osiel abused privileges and kept conducting business, I believe over the phone. That's why he got sent to Supermax
DeleteThe only prison Chapo will live and die at will be ADX Florence. It is non-negotiable. He will be in the highest tier of solitary confinement and restriction available there. His escapes already put him there along with him being one of the most dangerous people in the world. After conviction and sentencing he will be housed there and no one will hear about him until he is dead. A wonderful and fitting end for this mass murdering cockroach.
Delete1:47 that's true, there was an article about that years ago. Apparently, he was in medium security prisons in Georgia and Florida originally after his sentencing and was allowed way more privileges like having more frequent communication with his family, general population instead of solitary, etc. But it was all taken away when rumors surfaced that he was planning to bribe officials (guards or staff, not sure) and plan an escape. I've tried looking for this article for some time now but it's been almost impossible to find.
DeleteThe description of the view from the window may be inaccurate. For ADX supermax the very small and narrow window only allows view to the sky so inmates may never know their location within the facility.
ReplyDeleteSorry, for the ADX Supermax "A single window about 42 inches high and 4 inches wide allows some natural light but is made so prisoners cannot see beyond the building" The view is limited inside another courtyard inside the prison and inside the area they are held. They are inside a prison, inside another prison and yet inside another where they are at.
Deletewhos cares about there location its not like hes going to escape chapo will die in florence he shouldve shot it out with the marina and go like a boss!
Delete12:29 Thanks.
DeleteThere is a video showing the "view" and from the slim window, installed for natural light, the view is a courtyard, as the post reports. A courtyard that consists of the concrete walkway and concrete fence. Nothing to look at but additional concrete.
DeleteChapo will die being a snitch and a traitor
ReplyDeleteIt's funny how much hate him. You post so much you can tell what comments you post
DeleteYeah he was better off dying in a shootout like a man
DeleteWith everything said about how bad this prison is and how death is actually better I would think accepting this fate is more manly than killing the ones coming to lock you up.If you don't like the guy because of the innocent ppl they say he killed,then why make it sound like shooting it out with the authorities is "manly"
DeleteOnly hysteric desperados shoot it out with da police, or they are muy pendejos Or just affraid of Big Bertha, don't be affraid, just relax and enjoy it until you find out what it is all about. Then you'll be soo happy!
Delete-El Sol Perdido
2:34 keep the secretes to your happiness to yourself.
Delete4:19 relax, and enjoy it,
Deleteopen yourself to a whole world of happiness.
As Tio Sam would say upon arrival at the 5 star resort in the Rockies - Bienvenido señor Guzman, mi casa es su casa, por favor sientete como en casa. Vas a estar aquí por mucho tiempo.
ReplyDeleteJanuary 22, 2017 at 12:24 PM LOL Well said..
DeleteJaJaJaJaJa
DeleteHorrifying place ....
ReplyDeleteHave fun shorty. Should have kept selling oranges in los mochis. Rot in hell..
ReplyDeleteI do not support gangsterism BUT you do not know the harshness of life in the rural areas of Mexico. Under the same conditions everyone would have probably done the same. Show mercy even to the people who probably do not deserve it. Why ? Because God always does. Good day !
DeleteObviously not true. A killer a pig and a traitor to his country.
DeleteHe deserves no mercy. Did he show any mercy?
Delete4:39, mercy??? LOL!!! He is a mass murdering spawn of Satan he deserves no mercy but pure solitary torture until he dies.
DeleteChapo you have a beautiful wife ,twin baby girls ,other children ,over 1 billion or more in US dollars and you are an older man .Why ? WTF? was you thinking trying to get a movie with Kate Castillo ? El Chapo wife is a million times more attractive than Kate !
ReplyDeleteI wonder if they will let him hear his corridos for good behavior?
Yeah he messed up but life goes on
DeleteLmao 1:56
DeleteHe'll go mad.
ReplyDeleteOk we have chapo now let's go get the traitor Edward snowden, the people who were supplying chapo with guns should b behind bars also. Comanche
ReplyDeleteYour government has no right to keep secrets from you, mainly because that is where the US problems arise when the greedy bastards hijack your government and then use your money and institutions to cover it all up in the name of personal security
DeleteYea . It would be a smart one to pretend to be Chapo . Be a real pain in the ass to reverse 15 life sentences .Did se a Mexican convicted under a alias once . After in the Texas prison in diagnostics his name changed on the count sheet to his real name . He had multiple convictions but was sentenced as a first time offender . Don't know how it eventually turned out .
DeleteChivis on a roll, thanks for the great coverage and I hope this means you are back at least on a part time reporting basis?
ReplyDelete:) Nah...just helping out. Actually I have been MIA pretty much the past month. We lost most the new reporters, BB reporting looks a lot easier than it is. ....
DeleteI certainly appreciate you helping out! Thanks for all you do.
DeleteMn
Thanks for everything Chivis. Paz, salud, y tranquilidad para ti. Saludos desde Los Angeles. El Nemesis-
DeleteQuick question Chivis. Do you believe it's him? EPN and Mexico are so corrupt I wouldn't put it past them to send a double.
DeleteAt first I thought Wow doesn't look like him, but it is. I actually took one of his previous mug shots and cropped a close up of his face of this week and the ears, hairline, eyebrows etc are identical. you can can weigh and look a little different but can't change landmarks. Remember the U.S. has DNA. its him....
DeleteHis identity upon arrival and custody into the USA was immediately verified by genetic DNA.
DeleteDe onde agarran el DNA,
Deleteel chapo no se la puede ya ni chaquetear
He should have went out like a man in a shootout. Wonder why he didn't? I guess we will never know
ReplyDeleteOh well. El Chapo is not dumb. He had to have known his was a possibility. Maybe he thought he would never get extradited. If so it was a big miscalculation on his part.
If cholo ivan was the big bad sicario/chingon he was supposed to be..he should did his part in los mochis shoot it out while chapo Fled...
DeleteNot bad at all.. ironic how the same tax payers that bought chapos product will still be paying for his living expenses in jail.. funny how the world works. Five star hotel compared to mexico.. that's if it was really him..
ReplyDeleteDid you read the article? Dumb comment
DeleteThanks, Chivis.
ReplyDeleteThis place looks bad, but better than trying to cross the border to support your family who's in another country while you get robbed, assaulted and left for dead by coyotes along the way. That'd be my worst fear; this place is probably much better in comparison.
Doesn't Mencho deserve this more than El chapo? After all for the most part chapo killed other narcos where Mencho will kill 3 year old without blinking
ReplyDeleteThere it goes again . He isn't as bad as this one or that one . Or how can they use the testimony of such a evil bastard . We try and sentence them based on the penal codes and the enormity of their crimes . We don't look at how they stack up to one another . If that was the case we could turn a hole bunch of murderers lose because some evil bastard managed to get off light . If a small time drug dealer got 5 years for selling a 8 ball , then what should be done to a drug dealer that furnished millions of 8 balls to be sold ? We have to go by the penal codes . In a trial it would be a violation of process to compare one case to another.
DeleteLol nice fantasy story.
DeleteThey both deserve it who cares who deserves it more...
DeleteChapos people killed alot of innocent women, Children and men that got in their way too. Don't be dumb
Delete5:27 about evil bastards, the mexican cartels were just the puppets, google: "Who Unleashed the Crack Epidemic on the US" among the poorest and disadvantaged minorities, in their black ghettos, you will find it was not the mexicans...they came on board later, in cahoots with great American government agents.
DeleteThis is why America is the best at torcher. Inflicting pain is a fine line till the subject gives in to their fate and will never talk thus has to be exicuted. America wise as they r realized time is their leverage coupled with discomfort.
ReplyDelete^^^ "4204life" is a perfect example of why our children should be taught to stay in school and away from drugs! ^^^
DeleteYup. Torcher sure is bad, alright? We are all against torcher. Torcher is like, not good.
DeleteGive torcher 40 years to iife, bad mophakka.
Deletegoofy looking motherfucker LOOKS LIKE Super Mario, he might just warp
ReplyDeleteon down the toilet pipe to freedom.
@6:54
DeleteLmfao....he does now that you mentioned it
@6:54 p.m BAHAHAHAHA! wheres luigi? Best comment on here lmao!
DeleteWhaaaattttt? No pizza, no visits from the whores, no musicians to play, Chapa is going insane right now.
ReplyDeleteThe nuestra Familia, Mexican mafia, Aryan brotherhood and all other top notch gang leaders run the outside from adx so wat does that tell u? I get calls from pelican Bay (on cell phones) another prison that is not federal and known about the same notorious reputation. Corruption is every where just cuz they tell u on a video or news don't mean it's fully true that's shit they want u to hear. Money rules and once that bug is planted there are some people that gonna take the bait and except that bribe it's a known fact I know guards n staff that are in on it so I'm pretty sure this is any prisons problem
ReplyDeleteHey gansta wannbe pendejo, you are greatly misinformed, pelican bay is a day at the park in comparison, Pelican bay has human contact and interaction which promotes corruption. ADX does not. Pelican Bay has currently 2800 inmates, ADX has 480. for a reason.
DeleteADX is a unites States Federal Supermax Prison.
Ironically, there are 1000's of cameras and one every few feet. Officers are vetted and backgrounds checked and duties constantly rotated.
DeleteDoesn't look like a super max to me
ReplyDeleteEs un pendejo el chapo guzman. Traiciono casi a todo sinaloa y causo mucha guerra. Sin el chapo todo sinaloa estubiera junto todavia. Solo pendejos piensan que el chapo fue alguien grande. No lo fue.
ReplyDeleteSi pero preguntale a cualauier persona de sinaloa sobre el chapo y ban ablar de el como si fuera un dios. Ponte tontos..
Delete@420 it's "torture" not "torcher"
ReplyDeleteAlso, @2:17 Most of the info Snowden put out was to expose corrupt politicians and all kinds of illegal things the US gov was doing- do you want the people doing this shit to run the US??
Edguar Esnouden is an american hero, he did not betray the USA, he served the american people well, he betrayed the traitor Corporate Welfare Kings of the US, he worked for...
DeleteHe will be cleared and medaled some day like assange or chelsea manning. Fack the politicians and their secret investments.
I think Comanche's point was that the US respects the former su I'm not saying fears but respect I still see the US as a lion n Russia as a leopard the lion will surely kill the leopard but can end up badly wounded. Mexico oh well nice kitty.
DeletePuppet Martinez was making hundreds of thousands while servinf life in the Florence admax
ReplyDelete@9:42 & @chivis
DeleteJust saying, which is worse, the SHU at Pelican Bay or ADX? I'm asking cause I read an article that one of the premier leaders of La Eme, I believe his name was Arturo Castañeda, was actually trying to commit crimes and shit so they can send him to ADX.
No he wasn't.
DeleteHardcore mexican gangsters "cholos" in cali prisons watch Gotita de Amor coming out with tattoo tears n shit simon ese read Boxer Enriquez the Black Hand by Chris Blatchford watching novelas in prison homes. Poor Chapo hopefully his movie gets made and gets to watch it at ADX florence. Sean penejo as Chapo and Katie Micheal Jackson nose plays Emma Coronel chale
ReplyDeleteIt would probably be Danny Devito playing Chapo and Lindsey Lohan as Emma.
DeleteNah, 9:53 would just play con 'esta'
DeleteWounder when alfredito is gonna turn himself in and be close to his father it's the best thing he can do since he is still young. Plus a lot of inmates have relatives serving time in same prisons. Seems like a finito thing with the Guzman. Who's the new leader and who is DEA agent gonna go for next. Esta novela esta Buena lol. Don't feel to bad for chapo see what happened with Don Neto and RCQ were forgotten while incarcerated and now they free men. No fame you don't see them on shirts along with the narcos with attitude there are no shrines nothing he will be forgotten just like all the other Capos dead or alive.
ReplyDeleteIt's a different story for chapo though.. U.S wants his money and wants to make an example out if him. He has 1000's of ocorridosver exagerared corridos, escaped 2 times from prison and he wants a movie about himself badly. He attracted alot of attention and now it's nothing him in the a$$. They got vicentillo's 1 billion dollars. I wonder how much money they will take from chapo.. he's probably going to be in debt paying off the gov. So he won't make it to Colorado. If not be will go for sure. Chapo is a house hold name, everybody knows who he is and that's why he will be the example. That's what I think Sarai.. real spit
DeleteForgotten?
DeleteRCQ isn't free because he's an old man that had been forgotten. He was let free because of corruption. He's also active in the drug trade once again. He's far from forgotten. The U.S. would prosecute him in a heartbeat if they got their hands on him.
Don Neto has also not been forgotten. He may have been granted house arrest but he's an old man and has health issues. Much older than El Chapo and RCQ. That doesn't mean he's forgotten. He was just ordered to pay $1 million in compensation to some of his victims. Like RCQ, the U.S. would still prosecute him if they were able to get their hands on him.
None of these guys have been forgotten. El Chapo isn't in Mexico anymore. He's not going to get released on a fluke corruption driven technicality like RCQ and he's not going to be granted house arrest out of sympathy like Don Neto. He's going to live a very isolated life with little contact with the outside world and die in Supermax.
As for Alfredito turning himself in? LOL That's hilarious. There isn't a narco alive who would want to be extradited to the United States. There is a reason why El Chapo, like Pablo Escobar before him, fought it as hard as he did. Alfredito would not be housed with his father. Nor would El Chapo's sons be housed with their father if they are captured. They would be separated and isolated.
Are you guys stupid? Alfredito was already arrested pay attention.
Delete#NotmySuperBowl
ReplyDeleteDON'T YOU ALL WORRY HE WILL BE IN PELICAN BAY PROGRAMMING WITH THE NORTEÑOS DE CALIFORNIA. YA ESTA LISTO EL SEÑOR
ReplyDeleteAnd hulk Hogan plays with barbies,stupid ass comment!
DeleteI can't believe Osiel Cardenas Guillen is due for release in only 8 short years.
ReplyDeleteDoes Mexico have any open legal cases against him? Once he completes his time in the U.S. will his rights be violated by these two governments?
I have a feeling they plan on sending Osiel back to Altiplano when he wraps up his sentence in America and they will charge and convict him either with some random weak bullshit, or they will charge and convict him of something he was already convicted of and paid prison time for in the United States.
It's still 8 years away but you wait and see! Mark my words they plan on fucking El Mata Amigos, who by the way will only be like 55 when he finishes his prison sentence in America. He will still be a young guy. He did a good job securing that prison sentence.
This isn't fantasy sports. This is real life and these narcos aren't worth your sympathy or concern. Why are you concerned with what happens to Osiel Cardenas Guillen when he gets out? He's committed enough crime over his life that i'm sure there are plenty of things to charge him with in Mexico when he gets out. And ultimately he deserves whatever he has coming to him.
DeleteAfter what the Mexican government did to Guero Palma, it wouldn't be surprising if they pulled some slimy shit like that. Either way, he's a dead man when he makes it back to Mexico. The only reason he received 25 years was because of all the cash he paid and intel he provided to the feds. It's already been let known that that was the real start of the war between CDG and Zetas.
DeleteAh pobre sapo Guzman
ReplyDeleteGoodbye, Homes. Thanks For The 90's!
ReplyDeleteEverybody get out !! Anglos Latinos blacks Asians we didn't ask no-one to come here chivis can stay I wanna marry her. Comanche
ReplyDeleteI know you don't mean Mexicans also.This is our land,you get out.
DeleteDeport melania chump !! oh wait she's blonde n European never mind as y'all know undocumented European get better treatment just look at the British dude who attempted against the well being of Donald the duck chump had it been a Latino specially a Mexican hell would of broken the fuck loose !!
ReplyDeleteMexican europeans run mexico.just look at p.n.
Delete3:11pm and 7:25 am both of u have a point undocumented Europeans do get better treatment they stay have kids n these kids will call themselves gringos r u fucking serious? Just look at our president son of immigrants a mix of Scottish n german n he's also gringo? U have people from the former Soviet union Ukrainian Kazakhstan they have kids in the US n now they 're gringos n will yell build the wall ? It used to b people from the British isles but now anybody can b gringo? Joe arpio son of Italians n he considers himself gringo? I have brown skinned children n grandchildren but they call them Mexican-American? Why not just American? African American Asian American I hate hose terms.now epn doesn't seem to have European ancestry to me. But yes people in Mexico prefer blondes or what they call weras the perfect example to me r telenovelas actresses n actors news/sports broadcasters. Take a look at televisa programmig n see that they have virtually no brown skinned people n when they do they r offered minor roles like reporters on news or maids in they're telenovelas which is shameful cause about 85% of mexicans r brown skinned. I'm curious to see if chivita will have a lil of her precious n much appreciated time to opine on the subject which I understand is way off topic but variety is needed at times.
DeleteYea . This shit aint fair . Everywhere you fill out paper they ask race . Never want to put my race in the space cause I want whatever I am trying to get because of what ever my merits are that qualifies me . When Melanie trump filled out her immigration papers to come work as a model here in the usa she shouldn't have told them she was blond . I think the fact that she had a job should have been enough . COME OFF THIS SHIT . Where I live there are few Europeans that have become citizens but I have dozens of friends from mexico that are . The USA is more hospitable to Mexican immigrants than any country in the world . The illegals are treated extremely well compared to how mexico treats illegal immigrants . Never heard of us official raping the women . Ever hear of that in Mexico?
DeleteIt's true 11:51 Mexicans will never get the same treatment as a white guy in America and are considered Mexicans eventhough they were 4 generations back. White people are the racist people on earth.
DeleteIn the words of that detective at the end of goodfellas when he tells ray liotta BYE BYE DICKHEAD! SEE YOU IN ATTICA LOL!
ReplyDeleteArchitectural Digest will be envious BB's photo spread shoot.
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Nothing just like all the rest before these crooks.
ReplyDeleteR1, MZ, MENCHO, top dogs you think there will be an alliance just like in the 90s now that CHAPO is gone regroup reorganize that's when cartels really flourish and go back to what they know??
ReplyDeleteThere was no alliance in the 90s the Arellanos just had everyone on check. I you dont believe me look for "the war for Tijuana" on borderland
Delete3:41 tijuana had owners, little by little but the CAF went to hell, hehehee, you are so funny.
DeleteBut pinchis chilangos pendejos don't get it, ni a palos.
"prefiero una tumba en Colombia que una carcel en EU" people can't compare CHAPO to ESCOBAR that just shows who had more balls!!
ReplyDeleteMy first comments on this site where about this Institution. Started in here 5, 6 years ago. Back then, everyone was caught up in he would never be caught, and how he would never be on his way.
ReplyDeleteI've done extensive research. What I conclude is this, it is designed to take away everything that the inmates hold dear. Oh, eventually he will get a rare visit. I'm sure his wife will move to Denver just for that. But it will 5 years til then, and that's if they don't find him crawling on the ceiling like a fly.
No here, they take away from him what was most dear, and that is Admiration amongst his Peers. He will be in there next to some Heavyweights. He will never know. There is no yard here to walk around and have every inmate know what you done. The beloved canteen here has 6 items on it. One is listed as 'pink bismuth'. There are no listings for products made buy Mars Candy Inc.
Mail? That's "broadcasted" on the B&W TV , one page at a time for so many seconds. If you missed an all world love line, to bad. Again, they turn the TV after no less than 5 years of good time.
However, I would like to point out one thing amongst Hearted Criminals. That is this, if He was smart enough to know how to import over $3B in Narcotics in his Career, He is smart enough to know that he will be found guilty. No, he pleaded not guilty. This in Order to Play his last hand in Criminal Chivalry, and that is have the Informants parade in front, look him in his eyes, and kill him. Soon we shall see those Mutt twins, Vincentillo, his Brothers, Tata, and at least 25 other million dollar guys come out and provide testimony. Mayo will watch his own son's do the unthinkable. Poetic Justice.
But the shit don't stop. No, here in America the price on lettuce and strawberries are at all time highs, yet the price of dope remains influctuant.
No. The shit don't stop.
~Spectator
Your comments might be better received if you weren't trying to win a literary contest, and confusing points. Keep it simple and informative, if you're going to talk loud say something
DeleteThank You. Knowing you read it means the world. I'll clean it up.
DeleteBut with vicentillos testimony or not,Chapo will still do a 1000 yrs! Probably was worked out with Chapo and Mayo,Chapo didn't go after mayo for a reason knowing his son was ratting,why wasn't Chapo upset at mayo,cause it was worked out!
DeleteHola Chivis, et.al.;
ReplyDeleteI lived in Mexico during the Escheverria regime;and have considerable experience living around the treachery of the Mexican cartels and the others, on and off over the past decades. So, needless to say, I am puzzled when you do not print some of what I have written. I believe in transparency...as long as you do not compromise safety. I recently wrote re: the hardships and cruelty of solitary but, alas, my writings were not published. I deeply appreciate the work all of you do which I refer to as "sweat equity." I am done giving my point of view but will always support your hard work. Abrazos,
11:46 No seas chillón, what you do is post your comments early, and make sure to say something smart, this comment of yours is at the end of 156 comments, probably 300 deleted no seas HUEBON and get up early. En vez de estarte ahi acostado en el chaqueteo
DeleteGlad you didn't post 11:49 posts as I see he's full of himself
Deletechapo will escape again..its in the works.....just to show that hes the boss....gente del chapo
ReplyDeleteViva el Chapo!
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ReplyDeleteYour on Mark. 15% of Mexicans have open doors to live a quality life. The other 85% have difficult options. Of the 85% 80% accept their situation and live on. The other 5% make the choice to get ahead. 1% are your narcos that are getting paid thanks to the drug using populations of the world.
Some of you people need to get a life. And some need to grow up. And for those with good comments, thanks..... And by the way Chapo isn't going to read any of your comments. Save the advice..
ReplyDeleteADX isnt as bad as the Black Dolphin
ReplyDeletein Russia.
ADX es Puro show Chapo will be fine enjoying his beans and rice and prune juice no pasa nada and best of all he won't be sexually assaulted and being woke every hour
ReplyDelete6:39 it's a blog what do you expect!
ReplyDeleteA lot of people commenting here about"they shouldn't get this, shouldn't get that"
ReplyDeleteI wonder how many of you heroes have even been in a cell ?
Its easy to get into trouble,but you perfect beings needn't worry..
I have been in more prison cells , jail cells ect than I can begin to count . I have been falsely accused more than once . That being said , I don't worry any at all of getting criminal charges against me because I am no longer a criminal . At 26 years old I decided to become a man and clean up . Not talking macho man .At 6 , 2 200 pounds light and athletic I could be violent and was sometimes . I wanted to be something I wasn't ashamed of . 30 years later I don't believe theres a chance I could even be suspected of what chapo is accused of . I am not a potential juror or judge so I don't have to assume his innocence . I think the guilty little fucker is right where he needs to stay .
DeleteYou idiots dont realise how defenceless you become in the face of all this "justice" everything is stacked against you.
ReplyDeleteThey have "experts" in everything lined up against you being paid ridiculous noney,where are your experts ?
But then again,everyone is guilty,are they not ?
Wow, nice free apartment and food for life. Shorty done himself proud.
ReplyDeleteNo human should live like this, for the dignity of the rest of us. Imprison someone, but let them see God's light.
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