Subject Matter: Massacre in Veracruz bar
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Orizaba, Veracruz
Yesterday afternoon, a strongly armed group of Sicarios stormed into bar "La Botana" located in the Francisco Ferrer Guardia colonia in the south of Orizaba and opened fire.
Unofficially it is said that the group of sicarios travelled to the bar on board two vans, the Sicarios jumped out and ran into the interior of the bar, where they found the group of men they wanted to execute, among them an alleged jefe de plaza of a criminal group in the zone.
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After storming into the bar, and without saying a word, they opened fire against a group of persons that were drinking, of who, 5 were killed and another 4 persons were gravely wounded and taken to hospital.
Later, elements of the Municipal Police or Orizaba, and the Secretary of Public State Security, had implemented an operation to track down the sicarios, as well as stationing men at the hospital where the survivors of the massacre were taken.
Original article in Spanish at Noreste
Not in Iraq, not in Russia, not in Libya and not in Africa, but in our neighbour Mexico!
ReplyDeletewhat's the difference
DeleteDumbass this shit happens right here in Chicago every day ..in our own US of fuckn A..
DeleteIt's not like shooting never happen here right?
Delete..and what's your point?
DeleteYah I think it says in Veracruz
DeleteDeep,really deep
DeleteWhen the USA is literally stolen from the indigenous of Americas, I wouldn't say neighbour. More like landlord.
DeleteLike shootings and homicides dont happen in chicago, in los angeles, in new orleans, in Baltimore, in New York, Miami Dallas or St. Louis. It happens everywhere, you just happen to be on a website that zero ins on drug related violence in mexico.
DeleteThe violence which stems in Chicago is from gang wars. Not the necessity of economic factors which has and is currently improvishing Mexico.
DeleteRather the stupidity and ignorance from parental guidance. The guidance of our youth should not be entrusted nor relied upon our teachers nor policing officials.
Know who and where your children are is the cause of such violence in Chicago.
The lack of vigilance and leadership within the household is what's wrong in American society.
No comparison 4.51 am. Not even close.
From Chicago.
Bro shit like happens everywhere. Stop trying to single out mexico
DeleteIf you are a single parent working three jobs to make ends meet and put food on the table and clothes on your childs back, constant supervision of your offspring is a secondary necessity. Unfortunately this situation affects a lot of families, both in the USA and Mexico.
DeleteI'll take the violence in Chicago, LA, New York and even in Detroit before I'll take the violence in Acapulco, Tijuana or Matamoras. Call me a coward but hey I have the means to protect myself in the American cities. Yes all the above stated cities are dangerous but you have to admit in certain Mexican cities the savagery is on a whole different level. These mofos are chopping up these poor souls like firewood. Personally I don't want to be chopped up like Negro sushi so I will keep my black ass in Texas.
Delete@ 11:33am
DeleteSingling out Mexico can at least bring more attention to the problem there. I don't think its such a bad thing. Your response could be a response coward president Enrique Peña Nieto would give to justify Mexico's problem if you think about it.
Countless stories of people fleeing war torn countries only to end up been killed in the good ol Us of a . God bless America
Deleteall you have to do is strap up in mexico and watch your P's and Q's don't get involved with the BS over a few dollars and you can live there fine
DeleteAhhhhh NO. Chicago, Baltimore, LA and New York dont have bodies hanging from bridges or heads left in coolers on a daily basis. Wake up.
DeleteAlways the same: not a single mention in our MSM but if someone farts in Iran its like the bloodshed is all upon us.
DeleteOn the US, gangs, drugs and guns in public schools give a bad name to public education, I have no doubt that is NE of the weapons used to privatize it.
DeleteGuns that help killing are also consequence of the NRA LOBBYING EFFORTS TO REINSTATE WEAPONS DEALING WITHOUT LIABILITY FOR THE DEALERS DURING RETCHIE DALEY JR'S REIGN.
Blaming "the parents" is kind of cowardly incompetent comedy.
I do understand single parenting is hard. However being a single mother of father should not be a secondary priority. Getting involved and attentive to ones child is essential to upbringing and moral values. It's tough but many have and are doing so.
DeleteAll I am saying is becoming a positive part in a child's life should not be overlooked.
Gun dealers are there waiting like vultures for the kids to go and buy their first gun from anybody, the supply has a lot of goodies to sell, then the funeral homes keep busy, and the prisons, business all over, others wait for the hood to empty to come and invest a few peanuts in high rises for the rich.
Delete@2:15
DeleteAren't most guns used in crimes stolen or bought off the street? So the thirsty gun shop owner goes hungry since he has to ask for your ID before he could drive people out of the hood.
Dude has a point, no reason to call him a dumbass. When you call the police because someone got kidnap then later some guys come to your house to torture kill you and you're family becausye you did the right thing, that my friend Is a huge difference an shit like that don't happen in us
Delete10:34 What Chicago are you from where the gangs don't fight for"economic factors"?They are fighting for corners which equals more costumers which equals more money..i am from ny and don't need to live in chi town to know that.
Delete6:18pm stop that...Yes it's happened but not NEARLY as often as you are trying to make it seem..it doesn't happen any more than it would happen if a American went to Mexico or anywhere else.
DeleteSo 7:00pm..if I watch my p' s and Q"s and don't get involved with the b.s. over a few dollas I should be ok? BUT I still have to strap up to live there? I guess minding my own business and not getting involved with the b.s.isnt REALLY enough..
DeleteYes, shootings happen in Chiago but they're much less brazen and generally less deadly. You might see a scene with 6 people shot but most of them will live. And it was likely carried out by 2-3 gangbangers. Not two vans full of men armed with semi automatic rifles and almost never do you see armored vests etc.
Delete@ 8:22 pm.
DeleteThere is only one Chicago. Unless some pop- up
Unexpected surprise magically appeared elsewhere!
Economic factors are not what's driving the stupidity and ignorance here. 99% is that of
Gang affiliations for retributions and turf .
Corner dope spots are a thing in the past. Too much heat and attention. Communications for delivery are what's transpiring. Less attention and discretion. An uber service for drugs .
The mess now in Chicago is about youth and young adults who are engaged in gang life. Either by choice due to criminal records with no employment perspective and the lack of parental guidance. The first being that of the root of the violence. Lost souls with no goals nor aspirations in life but to be a hooligan and steering the young into such.
In Chicago they dont kill enough people to compare to one state in mexico. Its not the same.
DeleteChicago has a murder rate of 27 and it doesn't come close to the murder rate of the US murder capital of St. Louis which is 59. What makes you think you could even compare that to mexico's worst cities? Acapulco had a murder rate 104.
DeleteSi uno no puede ni confiar en un velorio porque tener la en una barra. Aquí hubo dedo. - Sol Prendido
ReplyDeleteGood shit Riddler, Batman will never decypher this one
DeleteTienes toda la razon Sol, Esos centros nocturnos son imanes para las desgracias. Como dices si en un funeral le sacateamos ahora en un chichero.
DeleteRe6i0
Pretentious incoherence.
DeleteHahaha 11:35am good one
DeleteThis may be the sad case who been impersonating Sol on here for a minute and a half, you woulda thought they may get fed up with it,but,this is how sad they are
DeleteHow much money are they killing each over? Is it millions of profits or a smaller amounts?
ReplyDeleteFew pesos.
Deletelol it's Veracruz. Maybe 1million pesos
DeleteBut we are over populated
Nickle bags, dime bags....corner sales.
DeleteIt's minimal. Only the plaza bosses get paid well. Others are merely getting by . Nothing extravagant to brag about.
DeleteThis is what gets me , common sense is not a factor for most individuals . Rather the necessity of engaging in what's a forewarn outcome death or imprisonment .
That's why jobs and better wages are needed.
A few ficheras
DeleteCommon sense is not so common. - Voltaire
Delete- Sol Prendido
The lacras left behind by javier duarte de ochoa against the lacras coming in behind miguel angel yunes linares.
DeleteThis murdering got worse since epn got elected, but it has always been denied by argentina, chile, mexico, and the US, while the people digging for their safety and digging for the fallen.
And what does Enrique Penis Nieto think of all this??
ReplyDeleteDepends, are they associates of his people or the competition?
DeleteYou act as if these killings are somehow his fault or that this wasn't happening before he took office. I will never understand why Mexicans hate their elected officials so much to the point of even blaming them for stuff like this which is clearly not his fault.
DeleteIf everyone hates EPN so much how did he win the election exactly? Doesn't make sense
I dont know ill ask him next time i have coffee with him bro
DeleteBecause they are complicit, always have been - pluck a few peasants and enlist their help in controlling the masses
Delete9:24 don't ask us why we hate our "select leaders", but we are not into aggrandizing our corrupt but powerful tormentors, if you need to ask, you are beyond help.
Delete9:24 you didn't just ask how epn won the election when he is hated so..Here is how..The guy he ran against was hated a little bit more..Simple.
DeleteElection was stolen, epn used colombian hackers, vote changing computers, debit cards for votes that bounced later, nullified ballots, voters for tortas and a soda, and ghost voters, plus gift voteS from el PAN.
DeleteThe mass killings never ends.
ReplyDeleteAnother fine example of the drug wars relentless violence for control .
Then again it's only those who partake in such activities which receives such outcomes.
The world is a much better place without these 5 criminals. Assuming no innocent people were killed.
Its not clear yet that they were criminals, innocents are often slaughtered, either in cases of mistaken identity, or just to send a message. Everyone assumes they were narcos to begin with, like the 72 migrants slaughtered by Los Zetas in San Fernando.
DeleteSo officially the 72 migrants were not slaughtered by the Gulf for general purposes then?
Delete3:10 officially, San Fernando massacre was all the zetas doing, with confessions from their colleagues.
Deletein Mexico every murder is assumed its drug related, my bro in law was murdered, the news paper labeled him as a gang member with ties to the local drug distribution, well he was a US citizen who wanted to take his family for spring break to Rosarito and was killed in front of him, he did not had a single gang tattoo and even disliked the cartel related trends.
Delete11:57 classic mexican military operation, kill, kill, kill! And declare "narcos" all their victims, soldiers and marinas enjoy too much impunity.
DeleteDeath Penalty needed in Mexico, and The right to purchase any kind of weapons for self defense, a 380 handgun is all you can have & it has to be kept at home, that needs to change
ReplyDeleteYou couldn't be more right. Innocent people will die at first but so will alot of bad people. Some sicarios have 10 20 30 deaths. No need to imprison them, a bullet will do
DeleteLike in The States.they have Death Penalty and weapons for everybody since more then 60 years. Anything changed???? Dont think so.
DeleteBut hey You still belive in Santa Claus.
8:45 am your absolutley right. Here in GTO theres a sicario for some group who writes "7114" on his shell casings and they been finding them everwhere at murder scenas. He probably killed like 30 mofos over the past year, maybe more. Celaya, Comonfort, Villagran, Abasolo, Apaseo, Salamanca I think. Crazy sh1t
Delete8:45am your right dude. Google ejecutados or asesinados and "7114" and youll see 30 maybe 40 people killed by this one group of sicarios over the past year maybe basicly all over GTO. Hell it might even be one dude who go around with others. He writes that number on his shell casings and they finding them at murder escenes.
DeleteGTO has been hot for quite some time but under the radar as it doesn't make major news. Not too long ago they found a couple guys with their faces cut off just outside San Miguel Octopan. Rumor had it they were from Apaseo el Grande but no one was sure if they were mutilated before or after they were dead.
DeleteThe mexican governmemt makes its own citizens sitting ducks,
DeleteI would say they got and F for security!!!
ReplyDeleteWonder who dropped the peso and told the cartel they were borracho in the bar talking sheet!
Intel from individuals on payroll I will assume.
DeleteThe working girls, work as spies for who ever controlled that bar. One of them must of tipped of the wacked ones.
DeleteR3gi0
Gulf Cartel have taken ownership of this massacre. They said that one of the men killed was a Z jefe de plaza from cordoba, and that they will clean house of all zeta rats and CJNG.
ReplyDeleteWhat? Zetas and Golfos are allies now
Delete12:04
DeleteIn some places they act as allies, in others they are rivals. I believe the zetas dont have a head, thats why they act like loose guns.
Same goes for golfos.
R3gi0
12:04 read it again. Otis is saying the Gulfos are taking on CJNG and Zetas for Veracruz. So now it's at least a three-way battle for the state. Everyone is moving in with a new governor in power, trying to be the first to the tit.
DeleteThe old school zetas and the matamoros faction of CDG are allied. The other cells still go at it on sight
DeleteRead Otis's comment again. It was a hit perpetrated by the Gulfos against a Zeta boss. Gulfos are going after Zetas and CJNG in Veracruz. Where did you gets allies from that comment?
DeleteSounds like they've been watching blood in blood out Allie with the enemy by truce kill off the competition then kill your enemy. Dang asi nomas. They should sit down and watch mi Vida loca computers are the key to the future ~ La giggles lol.
DeletePaco Cerda has hinted that he was going to "tomar Veracruz por la tormenta". It looks like the first wave just hit. In order for the Sinaloa Cartel to strengthen, El Mayo has brought in Paco to "comenzar una guerra". Paco operates with precision and will clear these routes to the plaza's for El Mayo. I see the government working to stop Paco instead of helping him. He's former GAFE and has killed many soldados. He is s true bandito.
ReplyDeleteBra, Mayo can barely have a grip in Sinaloa, what makes you think he will go after Zetacruz?? Lo que menos quiere es mas ruido, ya ves como mando a callar a todos los Antrax.
DeleteR3gi0
At 12:44: No quieres ninguna parte de lo que está por venir. Los Antrax son bebés de lo que ha llegado a Veracruz. Las caras se pelarán hacia atrás. Sicarios obtendrá asado. Estás tan muerto que ni siquiera lo sabes.
Delete8:22 miedo solo a dios ,a cabrones no...Para servirles desde San Peter N.L.
DeleteR3g!0
los Antrax ya no existen, los que dicen ser Antrax no son los Antrax verdaderos del Chino, los que quedaron se unieron a los Chimales
Delete822 Mayos spokesperson, I would belive you, if you said it was Mencho, but MZ doubt it. Stop listening to corridos, its messing you up. Mayo will get cought soon, PRI is up for elections and they need a big fish.
DeleteSoCal-
Jajaja
DeleteMayo is sending Calderón & Garcia Luna to clean Veracruz for him. These two are the best sicarios Mayo has in his keep.
DeleteOtis everyone says they will clean house but nobody ever does...Atten Gringo Zeta
ReplyDeleteYep what you say is true, but sometimes they do, like Los Zetas who cleaned an entire corridor from Guatemala to Nuevo Laredo, all territory that they didn't have before, belonging to other cartels like CDG
DeleteMan was one of my top 3 destinations my June vacaciones
ReplyDeleteIf that bar was your top 3, I can imagine your likes.
DeleteR3gi0
Ask the MCs how it went in waco, tex fighting ol fashioned. Eventually everyone now a days pulls the gats out.
DeleteR3gi0
@7:18 all these escoria humana wasting people ain't no fooball game, and killing soldados makes you a dog, not a "true bandido"
ReplyDeleteIs there really a difference?
DeleteWhat ever happened to a good ol fashion bottle breaking, chairs flying, table smashing bar fight.
ReplyDeleteWere not in kansas anymore. This is the wild west of the future. Makes billy the kid look like a nice guy.
DeleteIt is strange that all of the tables look empty. No plates or drinks. I would think with at least nine people in the place there would be foos and drinks on the tables or fallen on the floor.
ReplyDeleteAnother good day in mexico . Every day is like the saint valentines day massacre . Criminals killing criminal . How do we lose ?
ReplyDeletevery sad. God help Mexico
ReplyDeleteOtis, it's obvious you are a zorra cheerleader. The questions is why? R u on their PR payroll?
ReplyDeleteReally? As a UK citizen im probably one of only a few people here that can claim to be neutral. If you live in North or South or Central America, you are affected by these events one way or another.
DeleteHow is reporting cartel hits of Capos being a cheerleader? I'm confused. You have to be reading something I am not.
Delete9:57 Pinchi rielera, siempre cagandola.
DeleteLooks like somebody dropped a dime. Attackers came well prepared. Weird, no look out near the front to warn everyone.
ReplyDeleteGovernment has implemented a team that will "investigate"
DeleteInvestigate what?
DeleteHow may flies and rodents are circling around the victims!
Believe me no thorough knowledge nor report will be given.
11:58 investigate the sarcasm, my dear grasshopper.
DeleteBecause the perps left quickly.
Love it. LOL 11:58
DeleteSorry to say this I know they have families but they had to go and there is still a lot more garbage to throw out there in a place were they can't do no more harm to them selves or others.
ReplyDeleteTHEMSELVES or others? Do you think they deserve death for harming themselves? That's where you lost me.
DeleteThis info came from the Noreste newspaper. According to the follow up articles, it states there was a verbal confrontation with guys at another table in the bar. Those guys left but later came back for revenge.
ReplyDeleteSo Zetas killed avg citizens then covered it up with a fake plaza boss news?
DeleteI don't care what they do in Mexico as long as it stays in Mexico.
ReplyDelete4:26AM. Well, that was the newspaper storyline. In realty, some Gulf Cartel caught members caught some Zetas boozing it up with a stripper.
ReplyDeletePhotos tell the aftermath.
People always writing of tje gulf cartel and yes they are divided bit still there and still strong enough to go on the offensive against other groups
ReplyDeleteHow bout quitting with the PC crap this is a narco bb about Mexico. U.S. has it's own problems. But quit comparing. U.S. needs to trade the bad U.S. seeds for hard working Mexicans whom still want the American dream. Send the bad to Mexico they will not last long.
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