BB forum user “MX” reports
that Osiel Cardenas has been transferred within the Florence Prison, from the ultra-strict ADX Florence to USP
Florence High.
From “MX”; “He will now
be able to interact other inmates. I'm not entirely sure when this happened,
but if it was recent, it may have been done because El Chapo may be taking his
place soon. Cárdenas will be out in about six years and before the age of 60. I
think we can expect for his conditions inside the prison to improve as the
years progress and the government prepares for his reinstatement into society. “
In 2009, after pleading
guilty in U.S. Federal court, Cardenas, Gulf Cartel top boss, was sent to
Florida prison where he enjoyed an array of privileges while in U.S.
custody.
Less than a year later
he was transferred to Super Max prison ADX Florence, where the most notorious
convicted criminals land.
At the time when asked
why the move, Edward Ross US BOP spokesman simply said;
"This is the highest
security level," Ed Ross, no further explanation given.
A prison official said
at the time, most inmates sent to Supermax from other penitentiaries had been
deemed too violent and disruptive, or
had tried to escape.
Cardenas was convicted
for a number of crimes including holding a gold plated AK47 to the heads of a
DEA and DBI agent in Tamaulipas.
It was Cardenas who
created Los Zetas to be his enforcer team.
Zetas were loyal to Cardenas, but when he was arrested, they became disgruntled
causing infighting and the eventual split.
So he serves his time, gets released, then heads up the organization again???
ReplyDeleteOf course. It is not like he will start an orphanage or lemonade stand when he get out. Will he be killed or allowed to take over the cartel again is a better question. Hopefully he will be killed. One scumbag less wasting our oxygen.
DeleteThey usually do. Unless he has money stashed and knowing the consequences of incarceration again he will lead a quiet life.
Delete10:00am not really. He's been gone for a while. People underneath have assumed leadership roles in organization and some may not want to step aside just because he's out. He can show up today but the information he has may hold no value or be relevant to what's currently happening in CDG so he may be more of a burden then an asset. His family has problems all over Texas and mexico. He's all red flagged. His best bet is to access an old bank account under a fake name he has in Mexico, get some cash and retire off grid in another Latin country. This is just my opinion.
DeleteTwo guys we need back Don Juan and Don Oseil. Had no problems in Tamps. Than. Make one President
DeleteY’all know the Cardenas still run the Matamoros CDG faction
DeleteWhen he is released he will head back to Matamoros and be ok
Him getting killed is Hilarious
Like saying chapo gets killed if he goes back to Sinaloa lol
So smart! You should be a drug boss since your opinion makes you look like you know everything 🙄
DeleteIf he dont get killed when he gets out he cld be the boss of the matamoros gulf cartel again and boy he will be welcomed cus the assholes running shit now aint capable of heading a corner nickel bag selling crew.
Delete@10:37
DeleteNo he will be building and running several orphanages and possibly 2 lemonade stands .Hes a smart man and loves his friends deeply . Hes also opening a few senior centers so he has a safe place to change his depends and drink his ensures .
when he comes out he will unite CDG and ZETAS and take over Tamaulipas!!
DeleteEl Osito no quiere que le vuelvan a meter toda la pinche riata por masquen anden ahi de calientes.
DeleteYou can keep the boss position, have fun.
Another joins Chapo for bad behavior.
ReplyDelete@ chivis when he gets out can he actually stay in the us with his family claiming they want to kill him in Mexico.
ReplyDeleteWP program like zambada?
Deletethe us marshalls run the program. before that o.e.o. washington would put a assestment treat.
DeleteJesus El Rey Zambada, o sus hijos, o su sobrino el Vicentillo chente Zambada Niebla.
DeleteAre those for pictures recently taken? He looks very well fed.
ReplyDelete-El Arrepentido de la Sierra
Those were taken after he got captured in Matamoros
DeleteLoool gordo pablano
DeleteYou don’t think they transferred him so he can get wacked in the new prison? I mean at super max no one could get close to him now he’s an easy target just like the rest
ReplyDeleteA target yes . Easy no. His connections provide him with protection and business opportunities. Something that is of value for those who were convicted of the same. Rather, the continuous illegal activities for those organizations.
DeleteOne hand shaking hands with others. Isn't that how building business practices work?
Just saying
Wacked by who? And why? He's in a US Federal prison. I don't think you understand prison politics.
Delete11:35 i was thinking the same thing
DeleteOziel is the man who made the most powerfull cartel in mexico from the end of the 90s to the time when he was sent to usa hes empire lasted till 2010 when tje zetas and cdg split. He beat el chapo and zambada and beltran and valencias. He can survive in prison. The question is will he survive mexico? Rosales and el kelin and el rex didnt.
DeleteSame supermax, less restricted area.
DeleteI hope they don't release Ted Kaczinsky too.
But we could use Juan Garcia Abrego, made US citizen to extradite his ass ASAP.
1135 Mijo no, he will be locked up in a cell, will be lonely as they are not allowed to mingle with the others. Ya dig.
Deleteno 11:35 he is now in general-florence high is high security not supermax
Delete@8:59
DeleteGet real buddy .. CDG has never been the most powerful cartel .. not even in its hay day ... it’s been Juarez, Tijuana (short lived), and Sinaloa.. CDG has always been second place at best and today is perhaps the weakest if even considered a cartel anymore. Just because Golfos/Zetas were capable of holding the plaza doesn’t mean they defeated Sinaloa... sinaloenses made the push up into the NE right into the lions den ... CDG would’ve never even attempted do the same in Sinaloa nor Sonora or Chihuahua ...
In the end after CDS attempt to take Tamaulipas (Nvo.laredo really, they didn’t care about Reynosa or matamoros), they retreated and still managed to become the Walmart of Drugs, while CDG has all but disappeared.
- el de Los Dos Laredos
@6:20 Sinaloa, Jalisco, Michoacán, Chihuahua, TJ all those plazas CDG use & still have heads in those plazas. Back with Osiel was top dog they owned more than half of Mexico before the split happened Zetas took almost all the plazas. CDS was taking lots of losses. Right before the split happen Z3 had heads heating up Sinaloa with the hand of Beltranes. For those that don’t know Zetas & Beltranes click up thanks to Osiel because that’s who Beltranes / La Barbie originally made the truce with after they had flip on Chapo. Now because of Reynosa CDG has got weaker but no other Cartel can take over Tamaulipas, Nuevo León, Zacatecas, San Luis those are strong Golfo plazas. Matamoros is gaining much more power recently. Before El Senor de la O is out Reynosa will be Cardenas plaza again & Nuevo Laredo will be a very hot plaza.
DeleteI doubt he can regain control of the Gulf Cartel, because it doesn't exist anymore. A lot of his associates are dead and the new guys wouldn't want to give up control to him.
ReplyDeleteYou’d be surprised as to how the CDG still is afloat.
DeleteI always wondered if it was true or not that there was zero communication in adx considering all the major players there like champ from the eme, Larry hoover and the leader of the latin kings. With his transfer to the lower yards he will have access to mexican mafia figures and other major criminals to connect with and be able to dump weight again. I guess we will see upon his release what he chooses to do.
ReplyDeleteO.a.
Hopefully, he’ll chose to dump weight again. This 38 a brick shit is for the birds. Better off getting a 9-5 at those prices.
DeleteThe Latin Kings used to buy live chicken at 26th and Sacramento in Chicago, emptied the shelves every day until the store moved to 22nd and California, lured by the Puerto Ricans.
DeleteI would bet the chances of relaying messages to the outside world are very slim
Delete607 38k a brick???? Where u paying that much?? Jupiter? Lmao
Delete#freeelchapo
ReplyDeleteAhhhh, I miss the days when you were funny.
DeleteHis family members control CDG, his people roam freely in Monterrey Mexico and Brownsville Tx.
ReplyDeleteNot freely thats why hisnephew was arrested in February.
DeleteThe dumbest Boss ever thinkthinhe could do that to the Agents hahaha that was his down fall
ReplyDeleteOsiel did not go looking for the American agents, these guys fell into the shit for following their noses, told Osiel to think things over, Osiel decided it was worth his while to let the agents go, because his fight was not with them, like other Mexican capos he respects law enforcement, y miedo no hay.
DeleteHe is a “top” U.S law enforcement informant so he has some options if he wants to keep his nose clean.
ReplyDelete2:03 everybody in prison informs, old news at least.
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ReplyDeleteThis man was/is the most honest and professional capo only second by Amado Carrillo. Chapo will die in prison and Oziel will bring back order in all of Mexico with La Compañia 2.0
Nope. Benjamin Arellano Felix on top of Cardenas
DeleteEl Mayo Zambada y el Chapo Guzman se enchufaron a toda la perrada de la competencia por 40 anos o mas, y todavia hay con que.
DeleteTodas las otras quincianeras chuparon faros, incluidos Don Neto y el Padrino.
1:22 jajaja pinche alucinado siempre mamaron en el golfo las chinolas. nomas los BELTRANES son respetados en el Noreste.
Delete40 años o mas? no pero los guzmanes si que estan acabados.
This should be interesting. Juan Garcia Abrego, the OG leader of the Gulf Cartel was transferred from ADX to Florence High a while back. I wonder if they'll meet up.
ReplyDeleteOn a side note, years ago, I remember reading an article stating that Osiel was transferred from a medium security prison in Florida to ADX because he had been abusing the privileges he was given. Apparently, he was still running the Gulf Cartel from behind bars through phone calls, visits, and letters. What spooked the feds though was that there was a rumor going around that he was planning an escape. The article didn't mention any more details on that though.
OCG worst mistake was to draw an AK on US federal agents that's what got him green lit from the get go. These idiots think that they can fuck with American Federal agents. As a Calexico boy through and through and being extremely close to Kiki Camarenas best friend from high school, as well as in the Corp aka Mr AB I can say that the US Gov always wins. Chivis I have a video interview with Mr AB as well as pictures from kiki's days from high school, as a marine, as a Calexico police officer, and as a rookie in the DEA I think you guys should interview Mr AB. And hear some of his stories of the luster of the Federal taskforce that ran. I've been trying to get Mr AB to share his stories before he passes
ReplyDeleteDEA agent Kiki Camarena lost to corrupt CIA agents puppeteers of Mexican DFS now called CISEN who got him kidnapped, tortured and killed, on top of impunity for themselves, the real CIA got to seed The DEA with high CIA trained managers to prevent another incident... BY THE WAY, what the hell happened to CIA director William Webster? Did Michael Corleone send him fishing?
DeleteThese guys must’ve been expecting a chemical attack to be donning those masks.
ReplyDelete- Sol Prendido
Face masks yes, but why do the soldiers/arresting officers appear to be wearing gas masks?
ReplyDeleteCanadian girl
He was arrested years back, the soldiers didnt have face marks at their disposal. Good old guy masks to the rescue
DeleteAww good for him
ReplyDeleteThis man ratted on every associate he had ... true meaning of snitch and maricon since he’s from Tamps .. Chapo is called a snitch everywhere and he didn’t cooperate with LE ..so what gives ?
ReplyDeleteChapo didn’t snitch to the US but he sure did to the Marina when he was in Mexico. That’s how they brought down BLO.
DeleteExactly ... Chapo snitched to the Mex. Government in order to ensure that his business thrived.. however when he was busted and his ass on the line here in the states he elected to take his punishment like a man... that's gangsta if you ask me
DeleteNothing but a Soap opera among Mexican cartels. Somebody always fucking someone and treachery behind the scenes. Wouldn't be surprised if Mari-chuey took over the cartel.
DeleteThis is what people dont understand that if your the boss of a company you got people who work for you and you pay them to do what you tell them to do for the company right .same shit chapo told his employes to do ther job they get payed for and that was to kill, arrest,or what ever it was to weekend his enemies
Delete@11:30, honestly, I don’t think the US even gave him a chance to snitch. He was #1 and the US wanted to use his capture as a win in the War on Drugs. Snitching was not an option for him in the US.
DeleteHe tried to pin point everything on mayo it didn’t work for him chapo is the definition of a snitch.
DeleteADX and the USP are completely different prisons located in the same complex. Complex meaning land that the BOP owns. Florence USP High is just like every other USP across the country. They are free to mingle in the day room, go out into the yard, etc. Of course they have certain times that they are able to move to different areas depending when their unit is scheduled to have yard time etc. The only reason you would be in solitary in a USP is if you were written up and serving a punishment time. Or waiting to be transferred out for your safety. The ADX has many different units. For some prisoners they will never leave the top security level and never get the chance to progress through the program. These inmates are the Boston bomber, Ted Kacinzky, etc. but there are many inmates that are sent there because they have been a constant discipline problem in a USP, assaulted an inmate or guard or something to that nature. After solitary, you can be moved to cells where you can talk to other inmates, the next step would be similar to a USP but single cells with limited dayroom interaction. The BOP doesn’t want to release people from the ADX. They want them to have time to socialize and adjust to being around a lot of people. I’m sure that’s why Cárdenas was moved. I’m a psychologist at the ADX but grew up in San Diego.
ReplyDeleteI doubt he will go back to the same shit that landed him in prison
ReplyDeleteIt's better to work legitimately. Granted. Less money compared to Narco Life but free.
ReplyDeleteRanchero de Juarez