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The FBI announced that a minivan carrying U.S. citizens was shot at shortly after crossing from Texas into the Mexico border city of Matamoros. The US has identified the four Americans.
News organizations are now confirming that this incident is the same attack in which cartel members can be seen carrying off bodies on video.
Background
Matamoros, across the border from Brownsville, Texas, is home to over 580,000 people. It is the second largest city in Tamaulipas (behind Reynosa). Tamaulipas is one of the six Mexican states that the US Department of State advises US citizens to avoid traveling to, citing risks of crime and kidnappings.
“Criminal groups target public and private passenger buses, as well as private automobiles traveling through Tamaulipas, often taking passengers and demanding ransom payments,” the State Department says.
Although Tamaulipas is among the most dangerous states in Mexico, The Washington Post stated that security in Matamoros had improved in recent years. There had been fewer high-profile incidents like the one that occurred on Friday. Many US citizens who live in Brownsville travel to Matamoros to buy medicine or for lunch. In January, the Texas Monthly published a list of the city’s best taquerias.
This is not the first time that US citizens have been kidnapped and/or killed in Matamoros. In October 2014, Borderland Beat reported that three US citizens went missing for two weeks when they traveled to Matamoros to visit their father. They were later found shot and burned to death.
Details of The March 3 Attack
A shooting and vehicle crash occurred on March 3, 2023, in the border city of Matamoros, Tamaulipas. Various images and videos alleged to depict the attack were shared on social media.
Initial reports from El Universal and Heraldo de México allege that state police officers engaged in a shooting with armed men. A Mexican woman who was reportedly struck by a stray bullet, which caused her to fall to the ground and bleed to death. Images of her lying on the sidewalk were shared on social media platforms like Twitter.
After the initial shooting, the armed men allegedly sped away but state police officers pursued them, leading to a second "intense shooting". Videos of this can be seen below.
At some point, a white minivan crashed into a red SUV. Initial reports from El Universal alleged that the armed men were driving the white minivan however later video appears to show the people in the white minivan were not armed, although they may have been disarmed at a previous point.
Of note, the vehicle crash site is roughly 5 mins away from the US Consulate. An image of some of the white minivan’s passengers can be seen below.
A video posted on social media appears to show armed men loading three unresponsive (possibly deceased) males and one injured female into the bed of their white pickup truck. This video can be seen below.
According to the San Diego Union Tribune, cartel members have a history of taking corpses of their deceased hitmen from crime scenes in Matamoros (and elsewhere in Mexico). This practice often extends to taking the bodies of their victims as well. Local media often avoid reporting about these incidents in order to avoid cartel retribution, creating an information vacuum.
Tamaulipas state police later released a statement which goes as follows: "During the last hour two armed incidents have occurred between unidentified civilians, lamenting loss of life and injuries."
License Plate Comparison
Officials have not released the identities of the US citizens but they have stated that the victim's white minivan had North Carolina license plates.
US Embassy Press Release
On March 5, 2023, the US embassy put out the following press release, saying:
The FBI is seeking the public's help to identify the person(s) responsible for the assault and kidnapping of four American citizens, on March 3, 2023 in Matamoros, Tamaulipas, Mexico.
The FBI, its federal partners, and Mexican law enforcement authorities are investigating the case. The FBI announced that it is offering a $50,000 reward for the return of the victims and the capture of those involved.
On March 3, 2023, four United States citizens crossed into Matamoros, Tamaulipas in a white minivan with North Carolina license plates. Shortly after crossing into Mexico, unidentified gunmen shot the passengers of the vehicle. The gunmen herded the four US citizens into another vehicle and fled the scene with them.
The public is urged to call the San Antonio Division of the Federal Bureau of Investigation at 210-225-6741 with any information. Information can also be provided online at https://tips.fbi.gov. Persons providing information may remain anonymous.
On March 5, 2023, news organization CNN confirmed that this March 3rd incident is the same one being described by the FBI as a kidnapping of American citizens.
The President of Mexico’s Statement
As reported by El Occidental, President Andres Lopez Obrador (often shortened to AMLO) spoke about the shooting and the Americans involved, saying "[According to] the information we have, they [the Americans] crossed the border to buy medicines in Mexico, there was a confrontation between groups and they were detenidos [detained, can also mean captured].”
“This matter is already being investigated … I think it will be resolved,” AMLO said.
It's important to note his allegation that some were detenidos. This may at first seem to imply that Mexican authorities have people in custody, however it can also mean that people were captured, as in, the Americans were captured by the armed men.
The direct quote from the president’s official press conference transcript has the word detenidos, however the publication Proceso quoted the president as saying retenidos, which more clearly implies an abduction. The publication may have been clarifying his statement after consulting presidential staff.
The White House Statement
During a morning press conference, when asked about the kidnapping of four US citizens in Mexico, White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre read a pre-written statement, which read:
“We are closely following the assault and kidnapping of 4 U.S citizens in Matamoros, Mexico. These types of attacks are unacceptable. Our thoughts are with the families of these individuals and we stand ready to provide all appropriate consular assistance. U.S. law enforcement is in touch with Mexican law enforcement. The Departments of State and Homeland Security are also coordinating with Mexican authorities. And we will continue to coordinate with Mexico to push to bring those responsible to justice and again, our hearts are with the families.”
“Don’t have anything to share outside of what I just laid out, clearly we want to be very careful here as there are privacy concerns…I don't want to share too much information on how we are moving forward or even the individuals, we just want to be really mindful of that. But clearly, we are on top of this.”
The US Ambassador’s Statement
Ken Salazar, the US Ambassador to Mexico, released a statement saying “On Friday, March 3, unknown assailants in Matamoros, Tamaulipas kidnapped four US citizens at gunpoint in an incident in which an innocent Mexican citizen was tragically killed.” (Referring to the female bystander who was killed by a stray bullet.)
The ambassador continued, saying that citizen security is “the most fundamental role of the US government. Officials from various US law enforcement agencies are working with Mexican authorities at all the levels of government [municipal, state and federal] to achieve the safe return of our compatriots.”
Noteworthy Aspects of the Footage and Images
According to the version of events published in Mexican newspapers like El Universal, there was a car chase which led to a car accident and then “an intense shooting”. Whether police were involved in this intense shooting is not clarified.
Here is something to note, the hitmen in the footage appear to be in no rush to leave the area. If state police were present (or near) the crash site, the hitmen would presumably be moving more quickly and still attempting to escape.
A New Witness Account of the Crash
A woman who was at the scene told Associated Press reporters what she saw, but asked that her identity remain concealed to avoid cartel retribution.
The woman said that she saw the white van get hit by another car near the intersection, and that a shootout then broke out. She claimed that another SUV rolled up and several armed men hopped off.
“All of a sudden they (the gunmen) were in front of us,” she said. “I entered a state of shock, nobody honked their horn, nobody moved. Everybody must have been thinking the same thing, ‘if we move they will see us, or they might shoot us.’”
She said that the gunmen forced a woman, who was able to walk, into the back of a pick-up truck. Another person was carried to the truck but could still move his head.
“The other two they dragged across the pavement, we don’t know if they were alive or dead,” she said.
Mexican authorities arrived at the scene after the cartel members had left.
American Victims Identified
The four Americans have now been identified as:
- Latavia "Tay" Washington McGee
- Shaeed Woodard
- Eric James Williams
[also identified by some outlets as Eric Wise] - Zindell Brown
According to her mother, McGee and her cousin Woodard were among the victims in Matamoros along with their friends Brown and Williams.
An FBI agent visited Burgess on Friday morning to ask her if she recognized the driver, who has been identified as Williams. She confirmed with the FBI agent that Williams was the person her daughter and nephew had been traveling with to Mexico.
Sources: El Universal, La Jornada, Heraldo de México, Tamaulipas Código Rojo, El Guzman Post 1, Post 2, KRGV, CNN, US Embassy in Mexico, El Occidental, LatinUS, El Imparcial, Associated Press, BBC, CSPAN, San Diego Union Tribune
Please note: The following video is being alleged by certain Twitter accounts to depict the shooting in Matamoros however it is actually footage from an entirely different shooting which occurred in Obregon, Sonora.
Also, several Twitter accounts have also falsely stated that the Americans kidnapped were an FBI agent and his family. This misinformation was likely based on a poor translation of the official statement of the FBI looking for those responsible and finding the victims.
To see more details about Americans’ trip down to Mexico and the cartel context of the area, please see this story.
The gunmen loading up the deceased casually and taking their time as if no worry about interference from the police.
ReplyDeleteThat was a lot of gunfire for three unarmed individuals.
LoL Elmo won't be able to put this issue in the back burner and thinks, it's going to go away.
DeleteNow they have to go looking for scapegoats, to take the fall if they can't find the actual criminals.
Dude no matter who was President ,
DeleteThis would still be happening.
Mexico has been struggling with anyone in there
Will this interfere with elmos mordida?
DeleteThere is more to the story believe me, no cartel members kidnap that many American citizens for no reason, these idiots probably went to pick up drugs down south and shit literally went south. Not even in groups and armed is gonna save your ass once you cross that bridge
ReplyDeleteDidn't you read the article?
DeleteIt happened when they barely crossed the border. The magic word is "barely".
They probably owed money and were "Cordially Invited" to the Motherland to "party it up" with the bosses.
Delete12:33 You’re naïve if you believe the mainstream media
DeleteAnd you're even more naive if you don't.
Delete“probably went to pick up drugs down south and shit literally went south.”
DeleteYou got the literally part backwards
They were accidentally shot and were being taken to cover it up.
DeleteOnly a complete and total sheep would say somebody is naive if they don’t believe the “mainstream” media! Seriously, is there oatmeal inside your skull. Any reasonable person wouldn’t believe a word the “mainstream” media says! They are corrupt, liars, and should be completely disregarded! You fool…stand in line for your 3 shots of pig vomit, wear your worthless mask when your by yourself, and lap up the poisonous milk of cnn MSNBC Fox News, npr, and the rest!
Delete5:54 Take your meds.Please.
DeleteThere is not more to the story. They were immediately caught in the cartel crossfire and the gunman were taking the bodies to cover it up.
Deletesuch a stupid comment. you don't need to risk 100s of miles in a car and a border crossing to buy cartel drugs.
DeleteMexican cartels are one badass mofos. Lesson to be learn to all wanna be American gangsta going to Mexico - you ain’t match against these guys. You can’t have your pants down and act gangsta I’m Mexico. You get burntttttyt
ReplyDeleteLets celebrate
DeleteTake you off the street take away your gun and let's see how bad you are
DeleteNothing will avoid the fact that your people are being wiped out in Mexico. And if you try that shit in America, you’re gonna get wiped out also.
DeletePrisoner exchange. # freeelchapo word up
ReplyDeleteWhy would you want Chapo the child molester released dumbass?
Delete12:45 because he is more respected and build a more respectable drug empire even if he liked his females young.
Delete9:34 chapo was a snitch, no respect for a snitch in the game, plus you said it your self, he was a pedophile
Delete10:25 if he was a snitch giving up info he wouldn’t be given a life sentence.
Deleteits old ways like in medieval times they would do the same. I dont agree with it either but they are from time. Thats all you got on chapo?
They thought Snowfall and Black Family Mafia tv series was going to work in Mexico
ReplyDeleteBmf was one of the most prolific drug trafficking organizations withing the usa in the 2000s. Part of their success early was no violence.
Delete3:12 😂🤡🤣
DeleteThey thought they were “hard”and invencible because they we’re in a group and with guns lol
ReplyDeleteCars backup waiting while the boys take their time as if they were loading some furniture in the back of a moving truck! Whoever it is has Matatown on lock!
ReplyDeleteWtf you on drugs?
DeleteYup, it's hilarious the traffic jam the sicarios created while loading their truck.
Delete@anonymous March 6, 2023 at 1:13 PM. No he is not on drugs let me translate for you pendejo.
DeleteHe us saying that the cartel members are taking all the time they need and are not worried about being caught by the police because they control the whole city of Matatown(translates to murder town)
Crips are gonna go down to Matamoros to settle things up lol
ReplyDeleteLol . Let them "go down " to Matamoros ,cartel will teach them how to pullup their pants
DeleteCrips wld not last 2 minutes in mexico. What you going to do when several cars full of armed men in full tactical gear and body armor in armored trucks with fully automatic weapons and 50 caliber rifles go after them? Shot their pants and beg for mercy. Gangbangers aint shit.
DeleteOk sorry the “Bloods “
Delete3:08 Immediately start rapping and maybe they’ll get afraid of the lyrics lol and let them go
DeleteHonest question...with Snoop Dogg glorifying narco corridos and how the cartels run while doing music collabs, what effect will it possibly have on groups like crips and bloods thinking they can just come down to Mexico and work with the cartels like they have just watched in some movie?
DeletePaging Lebron. Paging Lebron. They hunting down those black folks.
ReplyDeleteFor that bright bulb trying his hardest to come through with capital letters. You're gonna get tired before I do son.
ReplyDeleteWhat's the issue with capital letters? 😐🤨
Delete1:21 no issue Mijo, just use them appropriately.
DeleteAMLO says they were coming to buy medicines? That doesnt make much sense to me. Why would Gulf Cartel care about that?
ReplyDeleteMistaken ID or they were buying more than medicines
DeleteCartels kidnap anyone who they think they can get $$ from? 3 ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FROM Ecuador were killed last September in JUAREZ AFTER PAYING RANSOM AND AFTER BEING PROMISED THEY WOULD BE RELEASED. AFTERWARDS THEIR FAMILIES WERE STILL PAYING FOR THERE FREEDOM UNTIL THEY FOUND OUT THEY HAD BEEN DEAD FOR MONTHS
DeleteMistaken ID dont make sense, how many other black people are there in Matamoros? Not many to be confused with
Deletenot to mention they have south caroline license plates. hell i have never even seen a chrysler in mexico for that matter
Amlo dont know the difference between his asshole and his bellybutton. Those people walked into a warzone that day.
DeleteIt was said they were there for a medical procedure. Whatever the hell that is. There was a time were you cld go to moros for stuff like that but that time has been gone for over a decade. Makes you think your not really saving money to get your tits done in a war zone. Just pay an american doctor. At least you wont be shot and kidnapped.
DeleteSometimes an American meets violence in Mexico from a low level criminal(s) who rob, murder, and rape. Much the same can happen anywhere in the world and primarily in larger cities though not exclusively. This looks different in that Cartel's enforcers targeted these folks with firearms in broad daylight immediately upon crossing over. If the enforcers were just seeking information ie 'who are you' and 'why are you here' things would have gone differently. I suspect they are somehow involved in the trade. Lots of Americans cross daily and some may have some level of contact with some elements of a Cartel without even knowing it..but not many get shot up and thrown in bed of truck and drove off by guys that are obviously enforcers.
ReplyDeleteFirst off going into mexico anyday your gambling with your life. Then these people picked a bad week. There were rumors of fights between cdg matamotos groups. Then there are rumors that cdg matamoros is not happy with the new tamaulipas governor. If you go into mexico put your windows down so the cartels can see there are civilians in the car and hope for the best.
DeleteELMO's statement of "arrests" might be alluding to the seizure of the Americans rather than actual arrests of cartel members.
ReplyDeleteThat was a lot of gunfire to take down 3 unarmed men or they may have been armed. If these guys were unarmed it shows the cartels lack of fire discipline and that they are clearly a bunch of amateurs who don't know shit about firearms.
D.E.P. innocent bystander.
Totally right, he used detenidos. Likely meant the Americans were captured by the armed men. We clarified and updated that section. Revising the image now.
DeleteBrings back memories of the shootout and chase I had in Tijuana when 8 cartel hitmen, AFO sicarios, tried to rob me when I crossed the border to buy some pipe filler. It didn't end well for them as I always carry a 2 shot derringer in my boot.
ReplyDeleteI was stopped by cartel members but I blasted my way through.
DeleteWith a 2 shot Derringer nonetheless
DeleteSuperman has pijamas with my logo
DeleteAlso, My tears can cure cancer, too bad I never cry
DeleteSexwithfood....there was only 8 of them dude..1 shot from a 2 shot derringer can kill 4 if your have the proper training. I thought you knew.
DeleteFor those doubters I took out 8 AFO sicarios with my 2 shot derringer, I should've mentioned I had Navy Seal training!
DeleteSir now posting as Hunter the Pipeman.
Delete11:40 IDK about that, SIR would be defending AMLO
DeleteIt's hard to make sense of the whole situation. It appears that the cartels may have been waiting for them which suggests that the victims might have been in the game. Some are saying mistaken identity which is a possibility.
ReplyDeleteThe most surprising aspect is that they have been missing for three days and there is no family speaking up demanding their release. If these were really people just heading south to pick up meds we should have heard from the families by now. At this point I'm not seeing where the victims are as innocent as made out to be.
Some people are so fucking stupid there were reports of shootouts in moros friday and that shootouts were possible due to hight tensions between cdg groups and cdg vs the governor of the state. Cant feel sorry for these idiots and the same goes for any tone deaf spring brakers that decide to go to mexico and end up fucked up in some way. Its sad but large parts of mexico just are not safe.
ReplyDeleteThugs sagging out of their chinos; shower shoes on the one in her green jammies on her butt.
ReplyDeleteumm...yea... Look like Snowbirds on the prowl for discount Lipitor to you? ...me either...
Esos bueyes con la troca han de ser de la comitiva de bienvenida de la Colonia Modelo. Asi son por ese barrio...
AR
Por la Alberca Chavez en,
Matamoros
Pants sagging it’s a tall tale
ReplyDeleteFacts
DeleteThe cartels have always had to walk the fine line of not doing anything to get the attention of Americans so much we decide to use our military to intervene. Once America categorizes the cartels as terror organizations, and with the fentayl, and getting the pre cursors from China could come sooner than later, the cartels will be dealt with. It'll be very bloody, and only the public will suffer
ReplyDeleteI don’t understand why can’t Mexico just arm its citizens then this shit will definitely stop or get reduced
DeleteNo Period Dude
DeleteThe government doesn't want normal citizens carrying weapons.
The American citizens are armed and that has never stopped drug trafficking in their country.
Delete743 it stops kidnapping
DeleteRaza,
ReplyDeleteA lot of assumptions being made in these comments. Some inappropriate half, guesses being said at this stage of things.
Not saying that you are right or wrong, but I’m sure there will be more info available soon that will confirm or clarify the situation.
It won’t be long before we know who these people were, their histories\background, criminal histories, current employments and their activities. Once we have that, it won’t be hard to make some pretty good guesses at that point.
Same characters same story
Delete.. crimimals playing the victim
On OZARK, even Marty gets called down to see Navarro for a couple of meetings that turned into nail-biters.
Delete@ 4:51
- "A lot of assumptions being made in these comments."
..uh... yea:
- 4:51, meet the Interweb. Bring your cup.
- Interweb, meet 4:51...go easy on her...Está chiquita...
Many people commenting here know alot about living daily in a town full of mafiosi and narcos. To them, it might be somewhat perplexing how out of the blue, 4 black people, "medical tourists" in their gaudy, tourist-y, button-down Hawaiian shirts (not at all what these folks were wearing), are attacked in broad daylight at the nerve center of CDG territory. Also, the intersection of Primera & Lauro Villar Streets in the "Colonia Modelo" neighborhood are not exactly around the corner from "Colonia Jardin" nearer to the border and where medical tourists tend stay closer to.
Basically: If you're Saggin' your Dickies in Matz, don't be surprised if at least the CDG ladies' auxiliary fashion police "Las Buchonas" come callin
Mexicans use "pueblo" and chicanos use "raza".
DeleteNever heard them say Pueblo in that form in Durango they say raza
DeleteJames brown is triggered
ReplyDeleteHe finna get mad ....lol
Deletehttps://abcnews.go.com/International/fbi-searching-4-us-citizens-kidnapped-mexico-embassy/story?id=97648699
ReplyDeleteThe four Americans taken have been identified as Latavia "Tay" McGee, Shaeed Woodard, Zindell Brown and Eric James Williams. According to their mother, McGee and her cousin Woodard were among the victims in Matamoros along with their friends Brown and Williams.
A North Carolina driver's license belonging to Williams was also found at the scene, according to sources close to the Mexican investigation.
Barbara Burgess, 54, McGee's mother, told ABC News that her daughter went to Mexico for a medical procedure and that before the trip, she warned her not to go, but McGee insisted that she would be OK.
On the day of the appointment, McGee called Burgess to say she was 15 minutes away from the doctor's office. Burgess called McGee later that day but never heard back.
Sure she went for a "medical procedure" Tay was living the thug life.
DeleteFor those who are nosey....you can check for criminal records here: https://publicindex.sccourts.org/florence/publicindex/ (yes, I know the plates were NC but they were from SC)
DeleteMama was right.
Delete5:11 Cuéntame una de vaqueros y a lo mejor te creo… tell me one of cowboys and maybe I’ll believe you
Deletewhere is el chapo when we need him to snitch on these perps
ReplyDeleteSo we the people kidnapped armed? Was there a gunfight? Or were they just attacked?
ReplyDeleteMost likely The Gulf Cartel
ReplyDeleteDuh. Its matamoros who the fuck else cle it be?
DeleteWhich faction of Gulf Cartel ?
DeleteSome people are green lighted to move around, until you are not.
ReplyDeleteI see London, I see France, I see vatos underpants. 5:1 these aren’t law abiding citizens. 1:5 no one gets out alive. What’s mind boggling is the efficiency of this operation. The cartel’s network of lookouts, moles, and hacked or installed cameras, allows them to hit targets literally within feet (meters) of the border. I wonder if there are sicario world records. This would be one…the quickest kill in time needed to execute a crosser; another for distance needed in proximity to the border.
ReplyDeleteWut?
DeleteEstas mamadas no pasaban cuando el cdg tenia verdaderos capos como lideres. Cuando Oziel estaba afuera por mas violento que el es matamoros era relativamente calmado. Y la gente del cartel no hacian mamadas por que habia diciplina. Matamoros reynosa y todos los pueblos de la frontera eataban tranquilos.
ReplyDeleteState Dept just fucked up by offering to pay for their return, now every thomas, dickhead & Hairynuts in mex may just do THEIR kidnapping routine but now only w Americans- lower class Americans. We & they all know that BLM doesnt REALLY "matter" much.
ReplyDeleteIt made the News on channel 4.
ReplyDeleteIt showed the White van, and in broad daylight, the kidnappers are forcing the victims into a pick-up truck, while other cars drive without getting involved.
U serious?.... like u would do something to stop 4 armed men casually dragging dead bodies to their truck after an intense shooting?
DeleteI think doc called up some tips if the victims had $7kncasg and he wasn’t trynna do that surgery
ReplyDeleteyes
DeleteThe Soul train got wrecked.
ReplyDeleteQueso
Caught ridin dirty…por La Compañía.
DeleteMaybe this was some justice for what they are doing to mexican street venders here in the good ol US of A
ReplyDelete9:47 finally
DeleteOr karma @947
Delete@9:47pm I've read about robberies of Mexican street vendors, mostly on LATimes Homicide Page. Most of the articles I read the robbers were Latinos, not necessarily Mexicans though. That's just LA, I don't know about anywhere else.
DeleteOn the First 48 there were a couple of Mexican food truck murder cases. Both times the killers were Mexicans.
9:47 Beautiful
Delete9:47 revenge is a dish best served cold..they got served ice cold ice cream hehe
DeleteMaybe they are related to that drug dealer that popped from Carolina ....borderland beat wrote a story about it .... could be connected somehow who knows
ReplyDeleteWrote?????? Lmao
DeleteSeñor sol check this out https://intelsabiacalle.blogspot.com/2023/03/comunicado-del-fbi-sobre-los.html
ReplyDeleteIntel Sabia Calle de "Moros" comenta que al menos 2 de los secuestrados eran AGENTES O INFORMANTES FBI , Que por eso El Cartel del golfo "se los robò" porque los encontraron grabando y tenian informacion del cartel "
ReplyDeleteThey’re were professional snitches for the FBI
ReplyDeleteAl Sharpton definitely going to have alot to say lmfao
ReplyDeleteHe saying its racism because the pick up truck is white.
DeleteDoesn't matter, they were American Citizens idiot fucks ! You don't pick up and green light Americans, terrorists Mexicans cartels just keep getting away killing Americans crossing the border yearly. CIA and US Government should take Mexico pussy sovereignty away , fentanyl is killing a shit load of people daily, wait till your, brother, cousin, friend or loves one dies. Mexican Cartels poses the greatest threat to US democracy not China, Iran or Russia.
ReplyDeleteIf u go into Mex and get involved In the game and you fuck up somehow, u think you should not be killed because you are an American citizen?.... doesn't matter where your from, Russia, Canada, Isreal, Columbia, etc....if they are going to smoke u, they are not checking your passport
Delete10:43 so your saying the minute an American steps foot in Mexico, let's ambush, kidnap, then kill.
DeleteThese cholos and black gangsters aint the real deal compared to cartel thugs
ReplyDeleteA Mexican Brazilian Butt lift means stuffing 10 kilos of coke in her ass to smuggle back into the hell ya muricka!
ReplyDeleteThe racism in the comments SMH.
ReplyDeleteI'm think they got scammed they probably were going to the bbl thing and got robbed I think whoever ordered the kidnapping is hurting for cash they tried to clean it up. Thats just my random opinion.
For people saying México is dangerous, your dumb if you go. That's what Mexicans think about the USA you can get shot randomly here. Shit can happen anywhere
3.04
DeleteMexico is not a good country to live in, many people are dying young. Just last year 35,000+died to homicides, see if you can hide that under the mat, imagine the pain of loved family members going in life, that their son, daughter,father, mother are killed to the ongoing violence.
Mexico is good to visit but to live no
DeleteArrested many times for drug offenses...does not prove guilt or that he was making a deal with a cartel but it DOES NOT look good
ReplyDeletehttps://publicindex.sccourts.org/Florence/PublicIndex/PISearch.aspx
There is something fishy here. Cartels will not kill 4 US citizens just because. The will not kidnapped US citizens for ransom either. Once we get more information on the victims we’ll know if it was an accident or mistake or a deal going wrong. At the moment I believe they are probably involved with some drug deals or weapons.
ReplyDeleteIMO, based on the type of van, the occupants (3 BMs and 1 BF), and the location (duh), this was likely a smuggling op gone bad. These people got sideways in the Plaza and they were eliminated.
Delete10:28 lol I can't stop laughing 🤣.
DeleteYou said "Smuggling op gone bad".
They were coming from USA into Mexico.
Why did they kill two and let two of them live?
ReplyDelete