yeap...exactly what makes Mexico so dangerous....even a honest harmless guy can be corrupted ...when they say ..either take the money...or we will kill your whole family...what can he do?...and the stupid restrictive US immigration policy that turns people who would normally enter the USA legally , into criminals / victims of the narcos brings it into the USAand in Mexico who do you call...not the police...who can help you ..NOBODYMexico and the people are so beautiful and so tragic...
"and the stupid restrictive US immigration policy that turns people who would normally enter the USA legally"Really? Why aren't they entering legally, then? When you say things like this it makes you sound like a moron. Clean up YOUR side of the street before you insult the United States, buddy.
The US is expected to keep an open border, present no restrictions to incoming peoples, and fully trust they have the most honest of intentions while in our country...yet you yourself say "even a honest harmless guy can be corrupted"...this makes ZERO sense! Border restrictions are there not to keep those honest people out, but rather to make sure only the honest can enter...thus the need to enter legally! Yes the USA has drug users, money, and guns that flow south...which is PART of the problem in Mexico...however Mexico is the other half of the problem and in my mind a much larger part of the problem. I don't believe for a second that the American people would stand for such violence and corruption...which may be the reason we don't have such things to the same degree as Mexico. You need to stand up for your own land before you start insulting ours for not letting everyone in!
The producer's name isn't really "Joyce Gesundheit" is it? I think we're being hoaxed.Ed Bradley looks like shit.
jaysus...buddy i am an American..and with no latino ancestors...not from anywhere even near to the borderi am saying that we should make it easier to enter legallylike going to Mexico ..takes about 5 minutes and 20 dollars for a 6 month tourist visacharge 50 dollars ..give Mexicans a tax number ...and a chance to be here legally just think ..if we would say ok ..all 12 to 15 million illegals can go pay 50 bucks for a 6 month visa ...to look for work or what ever...lets see 50.00 times 10 million equals 500,000,000 dollars ..pretty good money for our side and helps Mexico with the drug war tooman some of you folks are so eager to get crazy
I have read borderland beat for 5 or so months now. I find it somewhat addictive. I am so sad about what is happening. I used to go to Playa del Carmen when it was not developed in the 80's. My brother had a beautiful house in Cabo. I spent my 10th wedding anniversay in Cancun. All of the Mexican people I met were lovely , hard working people. I am scarred for them mostly and sad I might never go to Mexico again. What happens when tourism completely dries up and all of those people loose jobs. If the choice is dying from hunger or working for a cartel - what choice do you think will be made? This is a lose - lose situation. I don't know how to help and I am afraid.
Which cartel killed him and which cartel were the cops claiming he worked for?
@ lito'brito Dont forget also if you have a car when you go into Mexico they also have a car permit you get for like 35.00 so add that into your calculation as well. FYI i agree with everything you said
Santiago y la presa are so beautiful..and good deals on the shopping too...wont be goin there for a while here is a photo of the lake http://s1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/litobrito/?action=view¤t=santiago1114.jpg
yeah ii don't drive there no more ..my last drive through Cerralvo got me shook down by some Z"s...but i got off easy ..200 pesos ...and my life i still got the car visa sticker on my windshield though ...sort of a little momentoyeah we could sell ours for fifty bucks ...and also the insurance ...man it could really add up
@ lito'brito...So you are not Hispanic, lito'brito? Then why do you call yourself what you do (lito'brito), other than to deliberately try to mislead people into thinking that you are Hispanic?'''lito'brito said... jaysus...buddy i am an American..and with no latino ancestors...not from anywhere even near to the border'I am not trying to flame you, Brito, but just trying to understand who is who at BB? Just who are you? Now my picture of you has just become that you are some Anglo who passed time in the US Navy, somehow studied some in Monterrey, and who for some reason or other just spent time in Monterrey during this Christmas season??? Is this correct?I am thoroughly confused here when you say that you have 'no latino ancestors' when you seem to have led us to believe before that you are Hispanic. What gives here?Ernest1
lito'brito...remember that it is NOT what you say but how you say it. What you've written now, and in the past, has been written in such a way that makes little to no sense. You write as if you are in Mexico with limited understanding of the English language...yet now you say you are just a White Boy from parts unknown. Not sure what to make of that...But please note...in an online forum you are only judged by what you say and how you write it. From what I gather you're not writing what you're saying...otherwise others wouldn't jump on you like they do. Just sayin...
@7:14 pmThe only info that has been released is that it was the Zetas. The kidnapping/execution is said to have been masterminded by El Caballo..no other info has really been released on this alleged Caballo.
He is a poser Ernest1. Hegot called out by about a dozen people in the past couple of days ecause somebody read into the posts really well and figured him out. I think he is cool. Entertaining as hell for sure. Doesn't know cartels from canalopes but entertaining nontheless.
You have to take into account that this is he same expert who has never heard of Koosh (created by Motarebel who is currently incarcerated), who doubts Mota prices and I quote "because I know people in Puerto Vallarta" and who walks around in areas where. and I quote again "I can see human bloodstains on the sidewalk". Entertaining young kid, but I give his words about as much credibility as Sarah Palin. The whole acting like a Mexican thing is disturbing though. Like he doesn't have friends and needs to fit in here.
The problem is more for the Mexicans because is happening in our land but everything went out of control in 2006 when the US government put pressure -when Calderon took office- to start this war "outside the US". A solution for Mexico can be to legalize drugs and end the problem.Felipe Calderon is in some way responsible for this murder as he is the President and official chief of the Mexican army and federal police, he started this war without proper precautions falling to US pressures, how she can say is proud of the President? without doubt her husband was a hero but the President should have more pressure from the citizens and "mayor´s wives killed" to prevent actions like this. Sorry about my English.
Yall some losers responding to Ernulfo's and Brito's posts. What's worst than a talking fool? The fool that's listening to him.Anyways, looks like there was an assasination attempt on dude in the video yesterday at 10pm.Poco antes de las 22:00 se reportó una balacera a las afueras del prestigiado bar El Viñador, ubicado en el municipio de San Pedro Garza García, Nuevo León.Fuentes señalan que un comando armado intentó ejecutar a Jorge Domene Zambrano, vocero de Seguridad del Estado.El funcionario se resultó ileso del ataque, sin embargo uno de sus escoltar se encuentra gravemente herido, reportes médicos señalan que recibió varios impactos de bala.Momentos después del atentado, autoridades mencionaron que solo se había tratado de un intento de robo, aunque las cosas apuntan a que los sicarios querían terminar con la vida de Domene, ya que en recientes fechas había recibido varias amenazas por parte de integrantes del crimen organizado.Testigos afirman que Jorge Domene es cliente frecuente de El Viñador, y que suele realizar reuniones con políticos y personajes importantes en ese lugar.Mientras tanto en la prestigiada zona de San Agustín, se reporta una gran movilización por parte de autoridades policíacas, y de elementos del Ejército Mexicano.
The story about the attack on the spokesman for the state police is here.http://www.blogdelnarco.com/2011/01/intentan-ejecutar-jorge-domene-vocero.html
The hope, the positive thing about this CBS broadcast is:1. Major US Network TV is airing a story about the cartel wars in Mexico. It is heartfelt because this story is about a man who wanted to do the right thing for his home, his country. And the story exposes the horror and brutality of "silver or lead"2. Mexican officials are saying what many of us have reiterated here: the US helps Iraq and Afghanistan, but what about its neighbor next door? This cartel violence will spill over into the US--if nothing more (at first) than the leaders trying to find sanctuary here3. It shows that Mexican Government officials are asking for more overt help than what we've seen thus far4. It exposes how deep and pervasive the corruption really is. When your own protectors are really your enemies, how do you fight that?
I saw this piece on 60 Minutes last Sunday night, though I was glad to see it it is like a pebble being tossed into the ocean. The story ended rather abruptly and in my opinion was pretty narrow in scope. At least it was mainstream and primetime. I think we will see more stories like this in the future as the newly elected conservatives are now getting to work on new legislation pertaining to immigration, the public attention will force the media to broaden their scope. I know these issues are touchy but at least it will draw attention to what is really going on along the border and in Mexico.
I was happy the US media finally got out of Juarez..everyone reports on Juarez, ignores what is happening elsewhere. Tamps and NL is where big news should be. I would love to see a documentary or dateline etc devote an hour or two depicting many places in Mx being destroyed by violence...Mier, Mata, Reynosa, Miguel Aleman, Mty...and so on...when they focus on one place it gives the impression of a narrow scope of violence. and honestly I think Tamps is the more violent over a wide area, Zs and Gulfo run the entire state and each municipal.DOn't count on anything changing in the US media.. conservative do not run the media liberals do. That has not changed.
Britowhy aren't you going to Santiago for a while? you are minutes away and it remains safer than Monterrey. You are in Monterrey, so close, I would go to Santiago anyday. I wish I was there now, walking up the cobblestone path to Cola de Caballo
@ LaylaPlease do not forget the word "overt". The Americans will never give EFFECTIVE help that is "overt". They want the Mexican government to ask for this help publically so the world can see it and the US looks like a hero sending her children in to die fighting the cartels. Do not be confused that the US has a vested interest in this problem.
@Buela.... 'You are in Monterrey (Brito), so close, I would go to Santiago anyday. I wish I was there now, walking up the cobblestone path to Cola de Caballo'... and over the pass, past the orchards and down to the cabanas de Arteaga, Coahuila, too. But, Buela, something tells me that our man, Brito, favors other forms of entertainment in the Regio metro area than the Nature one you just suggested? What you think?Ernest1
E1True...but Coahuila is not the NL subs of Mty. I only asked because he mentioned he IS in Mty and loves Santiago posted a link to show the lake then says he can no longer go there.. so I asked why? he IS there for all intents and purpose, and surely if he does not fear Mty..why not make a day trip to beautiful Santiago..? Just wondering E...still am..jaja
i would go but my wife is a little chicken and wont go...
besides there is still shooting going on down there ..yesterday it was on the news ...showing some shot up cars ..and some guys killed...La Presa will be there ..and I am not in any hurrylike my sweety said this morning...better late for work than early to the grave
He will no be hard to find.
@ BriiitoI would not go to Mty but sure would Santiago you can not compare the violence by a long shot...so your wife is chicken to go to Santiago, but is all for Mty? sorry ...makes no sense.There is violence in all the border states, my city included, but it is still considered one of the more "safe border states" so guess we don't count the police chief being killed and body dumped just a few blocks from my offices, or the businesses torch to the ground, kidnapping in the scores, killings extortions...etc but it reamains "one of the safer" Sorry Brito you know I am a fan...but this makes zero sense expesially if you go day time visit. I would not hestitate, but got rid of my Mty apt that place scares me..
he has no wife. he is a kid trolling here because he has no firends.
like i said before ..controlled panic...plus they have been talking about the alcaldes killing for the past couple of days again...sort of puts a little chill on it...Mexico ..so beautiful..so deceptive ...it can look so safe and serene ...and be just dangerous as hell..to me it is a differen't kind of creepy ...like one of those Ray Bradbury storys ..where the little town is so nice and normal it is scary...like the Stepford wives or somethingSantiago has that feel for me right nowand ernie ...will you quit kissing B's ass for a little bit...i am ashamed for you
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yeap...exactly what makes Mexico so dangerous....
ReplyDeleteeven a honest harmless guy can be corrupted ...when they say ..either take the money...or we will kill your whole family...what can he do?...
and the stupid restrictive US immigration policy that turns people who would normally enter the USA legally , into criminals / victims of the narcos brings it into the USA
and in Mexico who do you call...not the police...who can help you ..NOBODY
Mexico and the people are so beautiful and so tragic...
"and the stupid restrictive US immigration policy that turns people who would normally enter the USA legally"
ReplyDeleteReally? Why aren't they entering legally, then? When you say things like this it makes you sound like a moron. Clean up YOUR side of the street before you insult the United States, buddy.
The US is expected to keep an open border, present no restrictions to incoming peoples, and fully trust they have the most honest of intentions while in our country...yet you yourself say "even a honest harmless guy can be corrupted"...this makes ZERO sense! Border restrictions are there not to keep those honest people out, but rather to make sure only the honest can enter...thus the need to enter legally!
ReplyDeleteYes the USA has drug users, money, and guns that flow south...which is PART of the problem in Mexico...however Mexico is the other half of the problem and in my mind a much larger part of the problem. I don't believe for a second that the American people would stand for such violence and corruption...which may be the reason we don't have such things to the same degree as Mexico. You need to stand up for your own land before you start insulting ours for not letting everyone in!
The producer's name isn't really "Joyce Gesundheit" is it? I think we're being hoaxed.
ReplyDeleteEd Bradley looks like shit.
jaysus...buddy i am an American..and with no latino ancestors...not from anywhere even near to the border
ReplyDeletei am saying that we should make it easier to enter legally
like going to Mexico ..takes about 5 minutes and 20 dollars for a 6 month tourist visa
charge 50 dollars ..give Mexicans a tax number ...and a chance to be here legally
just think ..if we would say ok ..all 12 to 15 million illegals can go pay 50 bucks for a 6 month visa ...to look for work or what ever...lets see 50.00 times 10 million equals 500,000,000 dollars ..pretty good money for our side and helps Mexico with the drug war too
man some of you folks are so eager to get crazy
I have read borderland beat for 5 or so months now. I find it somewhat addictive. I am so sad about what is happening. I used to go to Playa del Carmen when it was not developed in the 80's. My brother had a beautiful house in Cabo. I spent my 10th wedding anniversay in Cancun. All of the Mexican people I met were lovely , hard working people. I am scarred for them mostly and sad I might never go to Mexico again. What happens when tourism completely dries up and all of those people loose jobs. If the choice is dying from hunger or working for a cartel - what choice do you think will be made? This is a lose - lose situation. I don't know how to help and I am afraid.
ReplyDeleteWhich cartel killed him and which cartel were the cops claiming he worked for?
ReplyDelete@ lito'brito
ReplyDeleteDont forget also if you have a car when you go into Mexico they also have a car permit you get for like 35.00 so add that into your calculation as well.
FYI i agree with everything you said
Santiago y la presa are so beautiful..and good deals on the shopping too...wont be goin there for a while
ReplyDeletehere is a photo of the lake
http://s1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/litobrito/?action=view¤t=santiago1114.jpg
yeah ii don't drive there no more ..my last drive through Cerralvo got me shook down by some Z"s...but i got off easy ..200 pesos ...and my life
ReplyDeletei still got the car visa sticker on my windshield though ...sort of a little momento
yeah we could sell ours for fifty bucks ...and also the insurance ...man it could really add up
@ lito'brito...
ReplyDeleteSo you are not Hispanic, lito'brito? Then why do you call yourself what you do (lito'brito), other than to deliberately try to mislead people into thinking that you are Hispanic?
'''lito'brito said... jaysus...buddy i am an American..and with no latino ancestors...not from anywhere even near to the border'
I am not trying to flame you, Brito, but just trying to understand who is who at BB? Just who are you?
Now my picture of you has just become that you are some Anglo who passed time in the US Navy, somehow studied some in Monterrey, and who for some reason or other just spent time in Monterrey during this Christmas season??? Is this correct?
I am thoroughly confused here when you say that you have 'no latino ancestors' when you seem to have led us to believe before that you are Hispanic. What gives here?
Ernest1
lito'brito...remember that it is NOT what you say but how you say it. What you've written now, and in the past, has been written in such a way that makes little to no sense. You write as if you are in Mexico with limited understanding of the English language...yet now you say you are just a White Boy from parts unknown. Not sure what to make of that...
ReplyDeleteBut please note...in an online forum you are only judged by what you say and how you write it. From what I gather you're not writing what you're saying...otherwise others wouldn't jump on you like they do.
Just sayin...
@7:14 pm
ReplyDeleteThe only info that has been released is that it was the Zetas. The kidnapping/execution is said to have been masterminded by El Caballo..no other info has really been released on this alleged Caballo.
He is a poser Ernest1. Hegot called out by about a dozen people in the past couple of days ecause somebody read into the posts really well and figured him out.
ReplyDeleteI think he is cool. Entertaining as hell for sure. Doesn't know cartels from canalopes but entertaining nontheless.
You have to take into account that this is he same expert who has never heard of Koosh (created by Motarebel who is currently incarcerated), who doubts Mota prices and I quote "because I know people in Puerto Vallarta" and who walks around in areas where. and I quote again "I can see human bloodstains on the sidewalk". Entertaining young kid, but I give his words about as much credibility as Sarah Palin. The whole acting like a Mexican thing is disturbing though. Like he doesn't have friends and needs to fit in here.
ReplyDeleteThe problem is more for the Mexicans because is happening in our land but everything went out of control in 2006 when the US government put pressure -when Calderon took office- to start this war "outside the US". A solution for Mexico can be to legalize drugs and end the problem.
ReplyDeleteFelipe Calderon is in some way responsible for this murder as he is the President and official chief of the Mexican army and federal police, he started this war without proper precautions falling to US pressures, how she can say is proud of the President? without doubt her husband was a hero but the President should have more pressure from the citizens and "mayor´s wives killed" to prevent actions like this. Sorry about my English.
Yall some losers responding to Ernulfo's and Brito's posts. What's worst than a talking fool? The fool that's listening to him.
ReplyDeleteAnyways, looks like there was an assasination attempt on dude in the video yesterday at 10pm.
Poco antes de las 22:00 se reportó una balacera a las afueras del prestigiado bar El Viñador, ubicado en el municipio de San Pedro Garza García, Nuevo León.
Fuentes señalan que un comando armado intentó ejecutar a Jorge Domene Zambrano, vocero de Seguridad del Estado.
El funcionario se resultó ileso del ataque, sin embargo uno de sus escoltar se encuentra gravemente herido, reportes médicos señalan que recibió varios impactos de bala.
Momentos después del atentado, autoridades mencionaron que solo se había tratado de un intento de robo, aunque las cosas apuntan a que los sicarios querían terminar con la vida de Domene, ya que en recientes fechas había recibido varias amenazas por parte de integrantes del crimen organizado.
Testigos afirman que Jorge Domene es cliente frecuente de El Viñador, y que suele realizar reuniones con políticos y personajes importantes en ese lugar.
Mientras tanto en la prestigiada zona de San Agustín, se reporta una gran movilización por parte de autoridades policíacas, y de elementos del Ejército Mexicano.
The story about the attack on the spokesman for the state police is here.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.blogdelnarco.com/2011/01/intentan-ejecutar-jorge-domene-vocero.html
The hope, the positive thing about this CBS broadcast is:
ReplyDelete1. Major US Network TV is airing a story about the cartel wars in Mexico. It is heartfelt because this story is about a man who wanted to do the right thing for his home, his country. And the story exposes the horror and brutality of "silver or lead"
2. Mexican officials are saying what many of us have reiterated here: the US helps Iraq and Afghanistan, but what about its neighbor next door? This cartel violence will spill over into the US--if nothing more (at first) than the leaders trying to find sanctuary here
3. It shows that Mexican Government officials are asking for more overt help than what we've seen thus far
4. It exposes how deep and pervasive the corruption really is. When your own protectors are really your enemies, how do you fight that?
I saw this piece on 60 Minutes last Sunday night, though I was glad to see it it is like a pebble being tossed into the ocean. The story ended rather abruptly and in my opinion was pretty narrow in scope. At least it was mainstream and primetime. I think we will see more stories like this in the future as the newly elected conservatives are now getting to work on new legislation pertaining to immigration, the public attention will force the media to broaden their scope. I know these issues are touchy but at least it will draw attention to what is really going on along the border and in Mexico.
ReplyDeleteI was happy the US media finally got out of Juarez..everyone reports on Juarez, ignores what is happening elsewhere. Tamps and NL is where big news should be.
ReplyDeleteI would love to see a documentary or dateline etc devote an hour or two depicting many places in Mx being destroyed by violence...Mier, Mata, Reynosa, Miguel Aleman, Mty...and so on...when they focus on one place it gives the impression of a narrow scope of violence. and honestly I think Tamps is the more violent over a wide area, Zs and Gulfo run the entire state and each municipal.
DOn't count on anything changing in the US media.. conservative do not run the media liberals do. That has not changed.
Brito
ReplyDeletewhy aren't you going to Santiago for a while? you are minutes away and it remains safer than Monterrey. You are in Monterrey, so close, I would go to Santiago anyday. I wish I was there now, walking up the cobblestone path to Cola de Caballo
@ Layla
ReplyDeletePlease do not forget the word "overt". The Americans will never give EFFECTIVE help that is "overt". They want the Mexican government to ask for this help publically so the world can see it and the US looks like a hero sending her children in to die fighting the cartels.
Do not be confused that the US has a vested interest in this problem.
@Buela.... 'You are in Monterrey (Brito), so close, I would go to Santiago anyday. I wish I was there now, walking up the cobblestone path to Cola de Caballo'
ReplyDelete... and over the pass, past the orchards and down to the cabanas de Arteaga, Coahuila, too. But, Buela, something tells me that our man, Brito, favors other forms of entertainment in the Regio metro area than the Nature one you just suggested? What you think?
Ernest1
E1
ReplyDeleteTrue...but Coahuila is not the NL subs of Mty. I only asked because he mentioned he IS in Mty and loves Santiago posted a link to show the lake then says he can no longer go there.. so I asked why? he IS there for all intents and purpose, and surely if he does not fear Mty..why not make a day trip to beautiful Santiago..? Just wondering E...still am..jaja
i would go but my wife is a little chicken and wont go...
ReplyDeletebesides there is still shooting going on down there ..yesterday it was on the news ...showing some shot up cars ..and some guys killed...La Presa will be there ..and I am not in any hurry
ReplyDeletelike my sweety said this morning...better late for work than early to the grave
He will no be hard to find.
ReplyDelete@ Briiito
ReplyDeleteI would not go to Mty but sure would Santiago you can not compare the violence by a long shot...so your wife is chicken to go to Santiago, but is all for Mty? sorry ...makes no sense.
There is violence in all the border states, my city included, but it is still considered one of the more "safe border states" so guess we don't count the police chief being killed and body dumped just a few blocks from my offices, or the businesses torch to the ground, kidnapping in the scores, killings extortions...etc
but it reamains "one of the safer"
Sorry Brito you know I am a fan...but this makes zero sense expesially if you go day time visit. I would not hestitate, but got rid of my Mty apt that place scares me..
he has no wife. he is a kid trolling here because he has no firends.
ReplyDeletelike i said before ..controlled panic...plus they have been talking about the alcaldes killing for the past couple of days again...sort of puts a little chill on it...
ReplyDeleteMexico ..so beautiful..so deceptive ...it can look so safe and serene ...and be just dangerous as hell..to me it is a differen't kind of creepy ...like one of those Ray Bradbury storys ..where the little town is so nice and normal it is scary...like the Stepford wives or something
Santiago has that feel for me right now
and ernie ...will you quit kissing B's ass for a little bit...i am ashamed for you