Ildefonso Ortiz
September 13, 2011 6:35PM
http://www.themonitor.com/articles/launcher-54726-grande-grenade.html
FRONTON — U. S. Border Patrol agents seized six assault rifles, one rocket launcher, a grenade launcher, and three packages of what appeared to be C-4 explosives Tuesday near the Rio Grande.
Agents patrolling the river near Fronton spotted a black bag in the brush. Inside, agents found the guns, rocket launcher, grenade launcher and explosives, along with a lower receiver for an assault rifle and 20 ammunition magazines.
The weapons were turned over to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco Firearms and Explosives for further investigation
The people who purchased the guns are fried
ReplyDeleteThe ATF is probly the 1 that left it there in the brush for the cartels to pick up later on
ReplyDeleteThis is insane. What is it going to take to secure the border? As I type this there are several Border Patrol vehicles looking for a group of wets around the area where I live. Hopefully the next President has the cojones to do something about it.
ReplyDeleteThese were more than likely stolen from a military base. The C-4 is the tale.
ReplyDeleteSomeone I know who happens to be a navy seal told me a long time ago, that if I want it to buy a gun to let him know, that he could get weapons from the base, he said it was easy because people on the warehouse didn't have a log control of the weapons. He told me he will just go there ask for a weapon rite down his name and that was it, in other words the serial number of the gun he was taking out was not on paper and no one will check up to see if he will return the gun or equipment back.
ReplyDeleteNow why would you turn those weapons and explosives back over to the ATF?.. They left them there for the Zetas.
ReplyDeleteThe weapons were RETURNED to The Burro of Alcohol, Tobbaco and Firearms.
ReplyDeletegood thing bp found this bag of weapons and returned it to the atf. now the atf can make sure that these weapons make it into mexico for sure.
ReplyDelete"sarcasm intended ala operation fast and furious"
I call BS on that last comment.
ReplyDeleteTexcoco:
ReplyDeleteYou are So Full of Crap your drivel isnt making any sense. You watch way too many movies. So stick to the War movies pops...and keep on wishing u had a clue what goes on in Spec Ops.
I wish I found that bag, I could secure an 1/32 mile section of the border for about 15 minutes with that.
ReplyDeleteSo this "Seal" stated he could simply walk out with a rifle without any id on the record? Funny, whenever I drew weapons and I wasnt in SF they logged the SN of the rifle I was requesting. So I also call BS on your friends comment.
ReplyDeletetex..
ReplyDeletei bet that guy was not a real SEAL..lots of bullshitters claim to be SEALs...i checked with my primo...who IS a SEAL/retired..and he said no way...everbody watches everbody..and getting a weapon is not like checking out a library book..
September 13, 2011 10:42 PM
ReplyDeleteTexcoco said...
Someone I know who happens to be a navy seal told me a long time ago, that if I want it to buy a gun to let him know, that he could get weapons from the base, he said it was easy because people on the warehouse didn't have a log control of the weapons. He told me he will just go there ask for a weapon rite down his name and that was it, in other words the serial number of the gun he was taking out was not on paper and no one will check up to see if he will return the gun or equipment back
I'm sorry, but if he was really a SEAL he would have never had such a thing, SEALs are so indoctrinated they would rather die than give up anything like weapons.
I am retired Military, I retired in the year 2000 and I can tell you it is all but impossible to get arms from a military base, heck even 99% of the military personnel on base do not have access to any weapons unless closely watched under a Chain of Custody.
So I'm sorry tex, you have been lied to.
@10:49 pm
ReplyDeleteI don't know anything about U.S. military bases really, and I'm not tying to insinuate it would be "easy" to walk away with military weapons from a U.S. base, but didn't twenty-six AK's and a Dragunov disappear from Ft. Irwin in July?
Ovemex said...
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I don't know anything about U.S. military bases really, and I'm not tying to insinuate it would be "easy" to walk away with military weapons from a U.S. base, but didn't twenty-six AK's and a Dragunov disappear from Ft. Irwin in July?
September 14, 2011 11:21 PM
Sad thing about Ft Irwin is, it's the only military Base that has civilian control of training Weapons for the Non-US Military weapons and I bet you can guess who is in charge and responsible for the distribution of the the foreign Military weapons at Ft Irwin, yup the good old BATF.
@6:16am
ReplyDeleteWow!!!Thanks for the insight!
Now it would be interesting to know where you got your info on the 26 AKs Ove. ???
ReplyDeleteMy question is what were AKs doing on a US military base?
To 10:14 PM if they close the border how are you and the millions of drug addicts in the USA going to get your dope? Think about it! Are you going to go across the border and buy it directly from the zetas or the golfos? Do not be so stupid. Or are you going to tell your parents or relatives who live in Mexico to bring it over because you need a fix quick?
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ReplyDeleteThey were stolen on July 15 from storage..It's no secret of the State, it was all over the internet in late July, early August..apparently it was kept quiet for 2 weeks
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2011/07/ap-army-irwin-assault-sniper-rifles-stolen-073011/
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/08/federal-authorities-are-offering-a-10000-reward-for-information-leading-to-the-arrest-and-conviction-of-anyone-involved-i.html
I was stationed at Ft. Bragg, NC. Served 16 years with the 82nd, 1969-1985. Also served with the Legionaries in the 90s. And believe me when you sign a weapon, any weapon from the Arms Room you have to show your military id card. And they will write down all info including the serial #. That SEAL, if he said that does not know shit. He is a FAKE.
ReplyDeleteI'm the guy that served with the 82nd. And before you go to the arms room your commanding officer has to pass an order thru the chain of command all the way down to the arms room officer in charge that such and such platoon or such and such squad are going to draw weapons. Any other way is almost impossible.
ReplyDeleteAll these guys claiming its impossible, no its not! I'm prior military who was stationed in Okinawa but one day we ended up missing several weapons that magically disappered. Of coarse NCIS did an investigation but I never got word what happen afterwards. Overmex is right, this wouldn't be the first case where weapons got stolen from military bases. So yes it is possible.
ReplyDeleteANY THING IS POSSIBLE MAYBE YOU COULDNT TAKE WEAPONS OUT BUT UF THERE ONEY INVOLVED ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE IF NOT WHERE DID ALL THOSE WEAPONS COME FROM AND THE C4 COMMON YOU CANT GET THAT AT GUN STORES CROOKED MILLITARY PERSONEL OHH AND THE LAW ROCKET US IS VERY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PROBLEMS IN MEXICO SO DONT TALK SHIT CAUSE YOUR GOVERMENT IS AT FAULT WITH CORRUPT MEX POLITICS ALL THE GUNS AMMO, MAGAZINES. BULLETPROOF VEST, STOLEN TRUCKS, BAZZOKAS, C4, COMES FROM US SO WHOS MAKING THE MONEY THE GOOD OLD USA. SO DONT NAGG BI#C@ES KARMAS A BI#C@ YOUR GOVERMENT F@CK#D YOU LIKE IN AFGANISTAN AND IRAQ I WONDER WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME US WON A WAR BECAUSE THEY HAVE LOST SINCE VIETMAN
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