3.30.12 UPDATE:El Chapo’s Man: Kidnap “Victim” Identified by "wife"..at bottom
Chivis Martinez for Borderland Beat
Chivis Martinez for Borderland Beat
Events unfolded yesterday in
Tijuana that rivaled a movie made in Hollywood, adding to the strange scenario is
the secrecy that has encased details from the public. What is known is and the end of the drama
five people were dead; a kidnapped person, two kidnappers, two men who were
guarding a vehicle, one of the men was a retired Army officer the other a
former Mexican policeman. The guards were the bodyguard and driver of an entrepreneur.
Photo/Noah Chavez El Mex |
Reported by AFN, the incident began at 10:00 when the “victim” was taken
to a safe house. This is where things
become incredible, the victim somehow managed to become free, was then able to
grab a weapon, the weapon was an AK47. He
then killed the two kidnappers at the safe house and escaped..
After leaving the safe house, the seminude, handcuffed and now armed man,
spotted a SUV a short distance away and eventually stole the vehicle after killing
the two body guards who were guarding the SUV.
The two guards are not believed to be involved in the incident.
The State Attorney’s version is the victim then drove a short distance
before confronting municipal police, at which time he began firing at them
causing a shootout which ended in the victim’s death.
Four of the now deceased were identified formally by the Deputy Attorney
General in Tijuana, Ricardo Salas Bravo,
as David Edgar Vargas and Javier Lopez Ortega Paredes suspected kidnappers, Luis Enrique González Sifuentes, 41 years old
retired Army lieutenant sub and Roberto Fernandez Uribe, 45, a former police.
At the press
conference called by the State Attorney, a statement was read and no questions
were allowed. Speculations have arisen
from the strange case intensified by the lack of facts and answers from authorities.
What
information was disclosed is the vehicle had been struck by several bullets and
the man - said to be around 36 - was found handcuffed by police handcuffs and holding the
“Kalashnikov", AK-47 assault rifle.
The bodies of two people were discovered in the safe house, and in one of the rooms police discovered a 9MM handgun and another AK-47, 43 packets of marijuana, tactical gear, a marijuana press and a scale.
The bodies of two people were discovered in the safe house, and in one of the rooms police discovered a 9MM handgun and another AK-47, 43 packets of marijuana, tactical gear, a marijuana press and a scale.
In the house
where the bodies were found (alleged kidnappers), located were three shell
casings, 7.62 x 39, known as "Kalashnikov", one at the foot of one of
the deceased, two additional casings in the garage of the home and one on the
street at the same address.
An inspection
of the safe house revealed clothes saturated with blood in the laundry
room. That and other indicators not disclosed, left the
detectives to conclude the room was used to torture people.
Not explained
is why the victim fired on Municipal Police Elements, one version could be that
the victim was a criminal who was kidnapped to be exchanged as part of a
criminal negotiation with rival groups.
Comments on the AFN Blog:
Moreover, in
comments left on AFN blog, one reader identifies the “kidnapped" who
committed the murders, as "The Javy or G", however does not provide
further details or whether he belonged to an organized crime group.
Another
reader claims to have seen it all stating; as he walked towards an
Oxxo he heard noises "like
rockets" when he ran into a man he calculated as 30 years, with a
"Kalashnikov" in hand and shirtless.
He claims to have remained calm and pleasant greeting thee man with “good
afternoon” and ran back to his home.
Later he learned the man ended up dead killed by police.
Unofficial
Reports:
AFN has
learned that the man, who paid with his
life after opening fire on local police, was "someone heavy",
apparently linked to organized crime "and an expert weapons
operator," this was proven with the way he handled a
"Kalashnikov", although he was wearing police-type handcuffs.
Another
report is he apparently was deprived of his freedom to "get
even" or exchange him for something or someone not defined, with a
rival group.
Sources used :
AFN, El Mex
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UPDATE 3.30.12
El Chapo’s Man: Kidnap “Victim” Identified by "wife"
A woman identifying herself as the wife of the kidnapped victim identified and claimed the body. The woman identified him as Ramon Olivas, 52 years old from Sinaloa . This is similar to the blog comments on AFN however those comments identified him as Genaro Olivas, and others said he was known as “G”.
The age of 52 is far away from the statement from the authorities that
claimed he was 36. The woman was
questioned by the state attorney.
TJ media is reporting the 36 year old wife called him to TJ. When he arrived in the city he was kidnapped
by individuals who took him to the safe house, the same safe house in which he
killed his captors. His captors are presumed to have been sleeping when he made his escape.
Both captors
were in the army and at least one was a deserter.
Olivas is linked to El Chapo, and is said to have been an important figure in the Sinaloa Cartel
described as a “heavy”. Initially he was
sent to TJ from Sinaloa by Chapo.
People in TJ are expressing fear that heavy violence will again erupt, if in fact Olivas was a heavy there may be retribution, especially since this event appears to be a set up that included many players, including the army and police.
If more information becomes available I will be sure to post it…Paz, Chivis
WTF?
ReplyDeleteThe municipal police work for the cartel that had kidnaped him. Not surprized if they were the ones that handed him over to the cartel. Either way he was dead.
ReplyDeleteOh bro you are good... The police were the ones that turned him over... Thats why he didnt hesitate when he saw those pigs... Either get caught and go back were he came from or fight for his life...
DeleteThat's one tough guy. He knew what was gonna happen to him so he had nothing to lose.
ReplyDeleteDon't know the guy, but it sounds like his life was a monumental example of bad luck.
ReplyDelete1.) Born in Mexico of all places.
2.) Kidnapped
3.) Manages to somehow beat the odds and overcome his captors, but after being teased for only a moment with a taste of new found freedom, he runs into more bad luck.
You couldn't make this stuff up.
second comment sounds solid to me
ReplyDeleteThat is just plain CRAZY! I also thought that the police may have been involved, or at least the "victim" thought so.
ReplyDeleteThis is whats wrong with Mexico when you see the cops and know they are with a cartel. You can't trust ANYONE!! those who are not up on the situation down there would probably think "ahh good the police! he's made it! they will take him in and look after him and offer him protection!" the reality of course is the opposite. They most likely were the ones who turned him to the kidnappers or helped them in someway. I guess the guy knew the cops were working with the cartel and went out with a blaze of glory rather than just be arrested and put right back where he escaped from to die anyway possibly slower. Its sad.
ReplyDelete@11:34
ReplyDeletecorrect. Most likely scenario. and He had to be "someone heavy", easily identifiable nothing else makes sense
1:02
In AFN blog comments are calling him "Rambo",
HE WAS PROBABLY A ZETA JAJAJAJA WITH ALL DAT SPECIAL FORCES MILITARY TRAINING DEY GET FROM LASCA AND Z-40
ReplyDeleteZ40 was never in the military...
DeleteZETAS ARE TAKING OVER
ReplyDeleteyou dont have to be a weapons expert when youre scared shitless and fighting for your life
ReplyDeleteNot trying to play "armchair quarterback" here but wonder why the kidnap victim "Rambo" didn't remove his handcuffs before fleeing? He had already whacked his kidnappers and surely one of them had the key but than again he was probably more concerned with getting the hell out of there! Also, I wouldn't feel to sorry for or even praise the "victim" because he was probably just another sicario...I mean he killed two innocent bodyguards like it was nothing! The entrepreneur guy was probably like WTF? I go in for a coffee and when I return both my bodyguards are dead! He was probably shitting bricks thinking he was the target! That's some crazy shit...it's like the wild wild west in Mexico!
ReplyDeleteSome of our Mexican bros,might know whats up.
ReplyDeleteNo wonder he fired on the police,they the dudes who took him and were minding him.Whatever way you look at it,dude went out bangin,cause he knew he was goin no-where but back to the shit hole he just escaped from.I,m taking as many as you fuckers with me as i can.They get paid,and top him anyway,cause he was a face.
Not rambo, more like liam neeson in " taken" either way the guy was dirty and probably deserved a lot slower death then he got from the police who were probably in on it!!
ReplyDeleteInnocent mexican bodyguards yeah right isnt it weird they were both one block from the house just keeping guard ex cop.and ex military if it was at the very top of the hill then there is no way they wer not involved
ReplyDeleteThis is a Typical "TJ Keystone Cops" scenario
ReplyDeletewhich happens all too often in TJ..! The Mexican authorities keep trying to tell the public that they have everything in order and not to be afraid if your a business man or tourist traveling thru Baja. "Pure" Bulls--t!
My family has property in San Vincente and a
nice villa on the property. Everytime we would
go there it's been "Trashed" and people have been squatting which never happened 5 years ago.
No Fu--en Way I'd go there now; they can have it
F---en Puntas!
AFN says the man is linked with El Chapo/CDS, but that's about the extent of the information. The authorities apparently can't ascertain his identity from the body.
ReplyDeleteFuck the police. Prolly was them that put this whole scenario into play in the first place
ReplyDeleteThis story is right out of the book " el sicario" if you dont have time to read the whole book skip to page 141....read the book!!
ReplyDeleteWhatever happened, happened, no one will ever know since all involved are now DEAD.
ReplyDeleteTheres the Mejicano point of view BB expert and the Murrican everyone is corrupt BB expert.
but the truth is between him and God.
Everybody here are so smart. You all just figure it out! Bravo!!!
ReplyDeleteThey way i see it, he got kinapped, taken to a safe house ,he indeed wad a.heavy some one because he didn't manage to scape even on cuffs. I don not believe he is a zeta b.c those mugrosos or dirty niggas can't really do shit. But constantly.get killed. He was a real sicario who i doubt was going to be exchange. He manage to kill his captors and the people who brought him,the "body guards" of who? There people can speculate anything. The cops probably had to do with this kidnapping and it became a threat once he was gone in sure some one of the captops notice and told.the cops who went after him and gun him down. Why? Because he probably had information which they would not let out. Think about it ... you got away ,u killed ur captors. Why the fuck would he shoot at the
ReplyDeleteCops. He had gotten away. Like i said common sence bring me to the conclusoon he was executed by the police. The only person who knows the truth is gone . All we have to do is now speculate.
That's Halarious!! When I read all of the comments that where made! This website is starting to be like El Blog Del Narco. Alot of knuckle heads with opinions! and then again, you know the saying about opinions!!! Everyone is either an expert or a walking encyclopedia.... Leave the comments to the people that are from the IMMEDIATE area San Diego-Tijuana. si no sabes como corre el agua para que opinas!! Just like I wouldn't comment on the broncas that occur in Sonora, Chihuahua, Coahuila, Monterrey, or Nuevo Laredo todos esos estados son ajenos. Dejen comentarios que valgan la pena... Respetosamente: Flores-San Diego, California
ReplyDeleteEstan Como Los chotas de Juarez pero los de Juarez neta que se pasan de marranos esas mendigas ratas cada semana sacan tantos asesinatos y lebantamientos que be la gente asiendose enemigos de la raza.. Por eso Los matan por corruptotes a todos esos chotas mamones
ReplyDeleteIts definitely a crazy story whatever the truth maybe. I would like to see some pics of the police vehicles, did they have bullet holes? How was he driving and shooting handcuffed? Did he stop and start blasting b/c he recognized them to be the ones that aided in his kidnapping? The point is you have to read into all these stories because you probably never get the truth. P.s. that guy needed new bodyguards anyway , those guys died without guns in their hands.
ReplyDeleteI posted an update not much but I thought I should pass in on...Paz, Chivis
ReplyDelete@6:24PM
I have scoured all regional media fotos and vids. there are two vids and 8 photos. I did not see one police vehicle sustaining bullet holes, not in windshelds, nor body. There is one vehicle with the hood up but it appears to have rammed the black vehicle intentionally or otherwise. I could not see a close up of that vehicle so it is possible it sustained bullet damage...but my money says "no"..
Thanks Chivis for the info i was questioning the shoot out with the police.
Deleteits going to get bad again here.
ReplyDeleteI hope this doesn't affect my visits to Adelita's bar.
ReplyDeleteSo did his wife set him up????
ReplyDeleteI'm packing the family into the minivan for a spring vacation to Tijuana, I'll post about any murders, public shootouts, kidnappings, or torture we happen to see while we're there.
ReplyDelete@12:25AM...looks that way. and the "wife" most likely is a spare..My guess he also had one in Sinaloa
ReplyDelete11:46...hahahah Adalitas Bar. A wise man once said.."In life you will never find the kind of girl you are looking for. But at Adalita's, you will find at least six". Same goes with Ensenada. We used to take twenty of us to fish our of Sergeios. No mas.
ReplyDeleteI think this event is tide to el chapo almost being caught in cabo. A lieutenant messing up and was called to tj to be taken out and making it look like it was tj cartel killing him. Former military involved? Of course their going to say that! Reality is that the captors screwed up by not having more seasoned sicarios watching him. I wonder if the generals in baja are involved.
ReplyDeleteHow could the two guards near the SUV not be involved in the kidnapping if they were in the scene? The victim who shot the cops knew they were in on it or at least thought those cops were working for the cartels. MX strikes again, can't defend yourself.
ReplyDeleteon my personal basis...keep killing chapitos everywhere!!! soon thier protection from calderon will end and then watch how the cowards fromm cds will run...thatas why they are killing them everywhere,even in culiacan!!!!jajajaja y el chapo apa!!!!!!!
ReplyDeletegood times in adelitas.
ReplyDeleteword on the street is that he attempted to meet a minor for sexual pleasure, and the parents found the FB acc and reported him to the local cops, which passed the tip to the gunmen.
ReplyDeleteFlamboyant-Zlayer .
ReplyDeleteBro,thats what i heard,but it wasn't that they objected.They objected to the rubber leggings and high heels HE wanted to wear,apparently he was a bit of a freak.And the sics,were supposed to be mad,because they seen him in his high heels runnin away,and he was gonna tell all their compas that they smashed him for hours.He got the gun first,dealt with them,and ran into the police who saw a dude in stockings and high heels runnin at them with a gun in his hand.
Thats the word on the street.