Nightmare Life in Cadereyta, N.L. Before the Slaughter of 49: Testimonials from
residents, according to the DEA, Cadereyta is a major drug trafficking routes and people victims of kidnapping, robbery and extortion, but few speak of the 49 executed
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| Protest outside the city hall Cadereyta, NL, about the recent execution of 49 people. Photo Sanjuana Martinez |
Sanjuana Martinez for Jornada
Cadereyta Jimenez, NL. It was 3:30 am when Antonio Escobedo Ovalle heard
the crowing of cocks and got up to go to visit his son in Reynosa.
Within minutes it was arranged, he prepared coffee and ate a piece of sweet bread, then went to board the bus that goes from from New Town to the town center. When the bus arrived, only he and a woman sitting next to the driver occupied the vehicle. When leaving the motorway, at kilometer 47, in the town of San Juan, a riot forced the bus to stop suddenly:
We got scared. Human bodies were lying on the roadside, some were in bags, there were many. We were impressed. Then after the feds sent us back and we walked around the gaps waiting to enter Cadereyta .
Antonio has 75 years, in a cowboy hat, plaid shirt and a pitted belt. quietly sitting in the shade of a tree in the main square when he comments that Cadereyta yet to recover from the shock caused by the image of the 49 torsos and the message above the bodies: This goes for all the Golfos, Chapos, Marinos , Huachos and governments, no one will be able to do anything ......Attn: El loco, Z40 and Commander Lazcano
Within minutes it was arranged, he prepared coffee and ate a piece of sweet bread, then went to board the bus that goes from from New Town to the town center. When the bus arrived, only he and a woman sitting next to the driver occupied the vehicle. When leaving the motorway, at kilometer 47, in the town of San Juan, a riot forced the bus to stop suddenly:
We got scared. Human bodies were lying on the roadside, some were in bags, there were many. We were impressed. Then after the feds sent us back and we walked around the gaps waiting to enter Cadereyta .
Antonio has 75 years, in a cowboy hat, plaid shirt and a pitted belt. quietly sitting in the shade of a tree in the main square when he comments that Cadereyta yet to recover from the shock caused by the image of the 49 torsos and the message above the bodies: This goes for all the Golfos, Chapos, Marinos , Huachos and governments, no one will be able to do anything ......Attn: El loco, Z40 and Commander Lazcano
The Gulf Cartel Feud
Speaking softly, turning constantly to the sides because he says that the malitos (bad ones) are everywhere. He explains that this town has changed since Felipe Calderon declared war on the drug cartels. And five years ago the Cartel del Golfo (CDG) made it their fiefdom for its livestock and agricultural wealth, and particularly for the prosperity around the Pemex refinery.
The peace of the town, known as the capital of Mexican broom makers, it was slowly becoming the pax of the drug cartel . The ranches were looted or confiscated , turned into extermination camps, businesses were robbed, landowners in suburbs were attacked . The wave of kidnappings are affecting each of the residents, or their relatives or acquaintances. The police and some city officials joined the criminal side and the population remains completely defenseless.
Antonio had 12 children, but lives alone. Widowed 30 years ago and the last woman with whom he lived on free love , as he says she took off a decade ago. Since then, he says, he is resigned to be alone: "To which I didn't impose on myself this massacre. But Here they go again, killing and lifting people. They take from right here, from the square. Where do we go? They've spoiled the community. "
A month ago, next to this square appeared a decapitated man, who joined the 18 executed between April and May, including nine municipal bureaucrats. Since January the number has reached 112 dead, not including robbery, kidnapping and offal of properties that organized crime will include in its spoils.
Here is the nest of them (CDG). A group of businessman are meeting with 200 other businessmen in the town Lions Club. The organizations that were disintegrating gripped by fear and threats. But today they are willing to start over to have a voice and denounce the crimes they have suffered for years.
Here, as elsewhere in Mexico, the law of silence reigns. People suffer the consequences of violence under the rules of the narco. Upon arrival of the Cartel del Golfo was followed by the arrival of Los Zetas. Both are currently competing for territory and profits not only from small time drug dealing and the passage of drugs, but common crimes, which also has other competitors.
Since there are no police or transit, Cadereyta left in peace , says Francisco Marroquin. "They got the extortions, robberies and threats. To me I know how the police work, at eight or nine p.m. they kidnap people walking on the street. They take their watches, cell phones, wallets, everything they might have brought, and then throw them out of town. 'And do not complain, because I'll put you in the can', "he warned.
A few months ago, federal and state authorities arrested Rolando Natividad Ríos Reyna, who was director of police, four of his bodyguards, 16 officers, eight members of Transit, and two qualified judges of the Ministry. Those who were not arrested, resigned. The village was gradually without authority of security, as in more than twenty municipalities. A year ago the town hall was attacked with goat horns at 3 pm, and since then the PRI mayor, Eduardo Javier de la Garza Leal, recommended accepting a curfew from 7 pm. At that time the square and the streets are empty. Few people venture out with the background noise of gunfire.
The latest strategy to curb lawlessness ruling was last week's new appointment of former general Niño Ricardo Cesar Villarreal as new police chief: a retired military officer. He comes to restore order and to work for the good of the municipality, said the mayor in a brief inauguration ceremony, without staff.
The city hall looks semi-desert. The mayor isn't around and either is his secretary, Carlos Rafael Rodriguez Gomez, who has two months in office and refuses to say anything about the slaughter of 49 people. He does not give statements for security reasons. We prefer not to talk, things are very ugly , he argues.
The cartels have moved into new businesses, as well as trafficking in drugs and persons, kidnapping and extortion of migrants. Here, the theft or the milking of fuel is a profitable business. Two months ago, the Attorney General's Office presented seven individuals responsible for stealing from Pemex 150,000 liters of fuel between Cadereyta and Reynosa, worth a million and half pesos.
According to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA, for its acronym in English), Cadereyta is one of the main routes of smuggling of immigrant and cocaine, as well as theft of fuel, and a place contested by Los Zetas, the cartel Gulf and Sinaloa. The municipality is a strategic bridge and adjacent to drug plazas controlled by Los Zetas, like Juarez, west, but also highly contested territories to the south which are now battlegrounds, such as citrus area Allende, Montemorelos, Santiago and General Teran.
We're surrounded. People know that God is their only hope of safety , says the parish priest, Gerardo Bazaldúa. People are very scared by the situation. There are constant abductions, death of a family and even assaults here on the corners of the square. They come looking for the only security they have, God .
A few days ago, the walls of the church of San Juan Bautista woke up with a new narcopainting: CDG. The federal police arrived a few hours to question the priest. We asked who had painted the walls. If we are the victims, how do you know? Scratching the house of God shows a lack of respect
Father Gerard is short, stocky and graying. He is 33 years and moved here eight months ago from the town of Guadalupe, another town besieged by organized crime: Maybe because I saw it and I have fanned fear by walking the trails and ranches .
In this crisis situation, he recommends fasting and abstinence to strengthen the will to avoid evil . In his sermon at the Mass of this day, the priest talks about the recent slaughter of 49 people. This questions us about the meaning of life. See how heinous they treat the person, other than to kill, they destroy what they kill, by dismembering. It is something that goes beyond the mind of man.
Of atrocities Jesus Garza knows. His son was 52 years old was a kidnap victim on 2 November. "We gave the money for the rescue and they said 'go to pick him up, just up the hill'. And there we find him, he was, quartered," he says crying.
In 1973, the Rameros with their eight children moved to live in Cadereyta. It was a very nice town, good people, hardworking. We slept with the doors open, there was no one to rob you or bother you.
Now, the people are scared and locked inside. The homes are abandoned. Many were weekend homes of people who came from Monterrey to rest, as Virginia Buenrostro Romero, 53. On November 13, 2010 she decided to spend a holiday with her husband, at thier country house in the ejido La Esperanza. -Arriving at night, she noticed that lights were on and it was occupied by a group of 17 men and one woman. For you, we were waiting , a boy with gun told them.
They were hostages for three days until, suddenly, the Army released them from where they were inside the trunk. Unfortunately, his daughter Jocelyn Mabel Ibarra, 27, and her boyfriend, Jose Angel Mejia Martinez, 28, had gone to look for them at the house, where there were still some remaining criminals, and they kidnapped them together also with the driver, Juan Manuel Salas Moreno.
Also kidnapped
In charge of the negotiation, was their son David Joab Ibarra Buenrostro, 28, who was to pay the ransom, but he was also kidnapped.
Since then, the four are still missing. Virginia has continued to investigate and has seen how federal police were involved, the kidnappers who were given an envelope with money. In captivity, they watched the soldiers blow away the leader of the cel. She watched as the criminals spent other victim's money.
Together with a small group of women, Virginia is protesting outside of Cadereyta city hall about the slaughter of 49. "You can not live like this. I do not want the same thing happens to other people, because it would be martyrdom. It is as if he brought a knife, cut and slowly I'm bleeding. I'm slowly dying. We are being slowly tortured."
Life in the main square passes with apparent normality. Convoys of army and federal police have begun to arrive. Francisco Marroquin Lozano , 75, speaks firmly: Why are the soldiers here? Go to ranches, there they are. Go over there! What they should do is kill them .
http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2012/05/20/politica/011n1pol
Speaking softly, turning constantly to the sides because he says that the malitos (bad ones) are everywhere. He explains that this town has changed since Felipe Calderon declared war on the drug cartels. And five years ago the Cartel del Golfo (CDG) made it their fiefdom for its livestock and agricultural wealth, and particularly for the prosperity around the Pemex refinery.
The peace of the town, known as the capital of Mexican broom makers, it was slowly becoming the pax of the drug cartel . The ranches were looted or confiscated , turned into extermination camps, businesses were robbed, landowners in suburbs were attacked . The wave of kidnappings are affecting each of the residents, or their relatives or acquaintances. The police and some city officials joined the criminal side and the population remains completely defenseless.
Antonio had 12 children, but lives alone. Widowed 30 years ago and the last woman with whom he lived on free love , as he says she took off a decade ago. Since then, he says, he is resigned to be alone: "To which I didn't impose on myself this massacre. But Here they go again, killing and lifting people. They take from right here, from the square. Where do we go? They've spoiled the community. "
A month ago, next to this square appeared a decapitated man, who joined the 18 executed between April and May, including nine municipal bureaucrats. Since January the number has reached 112 dead, not including robbery, kidnapping and offal of properties that organized crime will include in its spoils.
Here is the nest of them (CDG). A group of businessman are meeting with 200 other businessmen in the town Lions Club. The organizations that were disintegrating gripped by fear and threats. But today they are willing to start over to have a voice and denounce the crimes they have suffered for years.
Here, as elsewhere in Mexico, the law of silence reigns. People suffer the consequences of violence under the rules of the narco. Upon arrival of the Cartel del Golfo was followed by the arrival of Los Zetas. Both are currently competing for territory and profits not only from small time drug dealing and the passage of drugs, but common crimes, which also has other competitors.
Since there are no police or transit, Cadereyta left in peace , says Francisco Marroquin. "They got the extortions, robberies and threats. To me I know how the police work, at eight or nine p.m. they kidnap people walking on the street. They take their watches, cell phones, wallets, everything they might have brought, and then throw them out of town. 'And do not complain, because I'll put you in the can', "he warned.
A few months ago, federal and state authorities arrested Rolando Natividad Ríos Reyna, who was director of police, four of his bodyguards, 16 officers, eight members of Transit, and two qualified judges of the Ministry. Those who were not arrested, resigned. The village was gradually without authority of security, as in more than twenty municipalities. A year ago the town hall was attacked with goat horns at 3 pm, and since then the PRI mayor, Eduardo Javier de la Garza Leal, recommended accepting a curfew from 7 pm. At that time the square and the streets are empty. Few people venture out with the background noise of gunfire.
The latest strategy to curb lawlessness ruling was last week's new appointment of former general Niño Ricardo Cesar Villarreal as new police chief: a retired military officer. He comes to restore order and to work for the good of the municipality, said the mayor in a brief inauguration ceremony, without staff.
The city hall looks semi-desert. The mayor isn't around and either is his secretary, Carlos Rafael Rodriguez Gomez, who has two months in office and refuses to say anything about the slaughter of 49 people. He does not give statements for security reasons. We prefer not to talk, things are very ugly , he argues.
The cartels have moved into new businesses, as well as trafficking in drugs and persons, kidnapping and extortion of migrants. Here, the theft or the milking of fuel is a profitable business. Two months ago, the Attorney General's Office presented seven individuals responsible for stealing from Pemex 150,000 liters of fuel between Cadereyta and Reynosa, worth a million and half pesos.
According to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA, for its acronym in English), Cadereyta is one of the main routes of smuggling of immigrant and cocaine, as well as theft of fuel, and a place contested by Los Zetas, the cartel Gulf and Sinaloa. The municipality is a strategic bridge and adjacent to drug plazas controlled by Los Zetas, like Juarez, west, but also highly contested territories to the south which are now battlegrounds, such as citrus area Allende, Montemorelos, Santiago and General Teran.
We're surrounded. People know that God is their only hope of safety , says the parish priest, Gerardo Bazaldúa. People are very scared by the situation. There are constant abductions, death of a family and even assaults here on the corners of the square. They come looking for the only security they have, God .
A few days ago, the walls of the church of San Juan Bautista woke up with a new narcopainting: CDG. The federal police arrived a few hours to question the priest. We asked who had painted the walls. If we are the victims, how do you know? Scratching the house of God shows a lack of respect
Father Gerard is short, stocky and graying. He is 33 years and moved here eight months ago from the town of Guadalupe, another town besieged by organized crime: Maybe because I saw it and I have fanned fear by walking the trails and ranches .
In this crisis situation, he recommends fasting and abstinence to strengthen the will to avoid evil . In his sermon at the Mass of this day, the priest talks about the recent slaughter of 49 people. This questions us about the meaning of life. See how heinous they treat the person, other than to kill, they destroy what they kill, by dismembering. It is something that goes beyond the mind of man.
Of atrocities Jesus Garza knows. His son was 52 years old was a kidnap victim on 2 November. "We gave the money for the rescue and they said 'go to pick him up, just up the hill'. And there we find him, he was, quartered," he says crying.
In 1973, the Rameros with their eight children moved to live in Cadereyta. It was a very nice town, good people, hardworking. We slept with the doors open, there was no one to rob you or bother you.
Now, the people are scared and locked inside. The homes are abandoned. Many were weekend homes of people who came from Monterrey to rest, as Virginia Buenrostro Romero, 53. On November 13, 2010 she decided to spend a holiday with her husband, at thier country house in the ejido La Esperanza. -Arriving at night, she noticed that lights were on and it was occupied by a group of 17 men and one woman. For you, we were waiting , a boy with gun told them.
They were hostages for three days until, suddenly, the Army released them from where they were inside the trunk. Unfortunately, his daughter Jocelyn Mabel Ibarra, 27, and her boyfriend, Jose Angel Mejia Martinez, 28, had gone to look for them at the house, where there were still some remaining criminals, and they kidnapped them together also with the driver, Juan Manuel Salas Moreno.
Also kidnapped
In charge of the negotiation, was their son David Joab Ibarra Buenrostro, 28, who was to pay the ransom, but he was also kidnapped.
Since then, the four are still missing. Virginia has continued to investigate and has seen how federal police were involved, the kidnappers who were given an envelope with money. In captivity, they watched the soldiers blow away the leader of the cel. She watched as the criminals spent other victim's money.
Together with a small group of women, Virginia is protesting outside of Cadereyta city hall about the slaughter of 49. "You can not live like this. I do not want the same thing happens to other people, because it would be martyrdom. It is as if he brought a knife, cut and slowly I'm bleeding. I'm slowly dying. We are being slowly tortured."
Life in the main square passes with apparent normality. Convoys of army and federal police have begun to arrive. Francisco Marroquin Lozano , 75, speaks firmly: Why are the soldiers here? Go to ranches, there they are. Go over there! What they should do is kill them .
http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2012/05/20/politica/011n1pol
This is a sad story. The biggest problem with mexico is corruption. They need to start from the top to clean up corruption. No it should have to live in fear.
ReplyDeleteListen to the old man, go to the ranches! They ARE there... kill all the trash that's destroying Mexico!
ReplyDeleteMy prayers go out to doe's missing people...the federal police and the marines should go get them they know exactly where those leaders are el razca huevos la puta 40 el lesbiano 42 ....putos mata inoccentes...culeros.vamos por ti la morra zorra..
ReplyDeleteThe drug war has destroyed Mexico. Calderon will go down in history as a fool.
ReplyDeleteWithout guns and ammunition and training, the Mexican people are living in the worlds largest concentration camp.
rest assured that here on the US side citizens are reporting any and all crime via anonymous means. you start a stash house it will be reported. I cannot give up too many details because they will change strategies so i leave it at that. i pray for the innocent lives lost and the left behind that suffer for the loss of any normalcy.
ReplyDeleteChrist have mercy.
It might be better not to publish full proper names of individuals.
ReplyDeleteNothing to do with the topic but I'm curious to what happened to the famous M1 and el macho prieto are those guys dead or did shit hit the fan and their hiding???anyone know?
ReplyDeleteThe grammar and structure of this story is not too good.
ReplyDeleteThat last paragraph sums it up. The military does nothing. They know where the criminals are but they are in league with them. Every institution in Mexico is corrupt. A narco society with no hope.
ReplyDeleteBoy oh Boy! Seems like Mexico has forgotten one thing-their citizens! Surely, they can do better than this for their people. Who would have thought a nation could sink so low and throw ethics right out the window. What is the matter with that government? This is no better than many third world countries teetering towards a failed state. Take down your noble flag and call for help, Mexico. There is no pride in your recent actions! It's like that man said in the article, "What they should do is kill them." Get serious enact a death penalty! Thanks, Chivis.
ReplyDeleteWhat a sad look into the life of everyday people having to deal with constant fear from a bunch of low life punks with no morals and no future. Their time is coming, all their violence only brings the end for them sooner than later.
ReplyDeleteIn Colombia right wing militia, the AUE, was formed by business men and the Cali cartel who were terrorized by the FARC and ELN and pablo escobar cartel. This militia was supported by the colombian gvt and was very effective in taking most of colombia back from the leftists and escobar narcos.
ReplyDeleteI believe the gvt(supported by the american gvt) and business men will support a closer association with a cartel, probably sinaloan, to create a para military force to create a greater degree of stability in Mexico.
Mexico is dying. My dear Mexico, what will you do?
ReplyDeleteCalderon, sir, bomb these ranches to hell man, bombard the mountains where a lot of these bastards hide. Provide shelters for citizens while your long-range warships gun down safe houses in costal cities. Invade cities with tanks and really stick it to these narco bastards, and show them that you really mean business... Afterall if you destroy cities and buildings they have to get rebuilt, thus creating job opportunities for those who are in major need... Do something different... Just sayin
ReplyDeletePeople always scoff when you say the US marines need to invade Mexico. But to me it seems like a last resort that needs to be very seriously considered. Us military marshall law has been extremely effective in occupied Islamic middle east countries in modern days. I think the Us military can keep the peace in Mexico. Sicarios wouldnt be so tough when they see 200,000 elite marines in tanks, apc's, choppers, ships..etc coming into their states and towns. They would never be prepared for a us military strike.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah! It has worked so well. We have been in the middle east for a decade, lost trillions and there is still a resistance. Now we need to go stick our nose in Mexico's issues. So we can occupy it for a decade waste more trillions and then go beg the Communist(China) to loan us more money. This way we will be in such debt that we wont be able to finance our military force and defend ourselves from any invasion and become a failed state. Yeah lets go into Mexico cause we are retarded Americans that never think of the consequences from our actions
DeleteI'm sure the names are fake but pretending they're real. The situation is hyper real, I know that, and Mexico should do something effective because it's making all Mexicanos look terrible. Zetas are like Somalian pirates. Mexico today, Somalico tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteCALDERON IS THE REAL SINALOA CARTEL BOSS.. GUZMAN IS IS JUST A COVER UP.. WHY IS IT THAT ONLY OTHER CARTEL BOSSES HAVE BEEN KILLED OR ARRESTED?? BUT SINALOA HAS YET HAD A BIG BOSS ARRESTED?? CORONEL DON'T COUNT CAUSE HE WAS BETRAYED BY ZAMBADA..
ReplyDeleteSo Vicente Zambada & Rey Zambada don't count either.You stupid jerk!!!...don't just blab stupid ignorant comments like that.
DeleteWhy has Mexico forgotten about the ordinary citizen! Simple! The controlling oligarchs are stealing the bulk of Mexico`s wealth and there isn`t enough for police salaries and to establish a social net so the young have no real opportunity other than joining a cartel.
ReplyDeleteI know there is other reasons but I believe this the main one. The ordinary Mexican is just a resource like a flock of sheep to be fleeced by the rich and cartels wolves!
When there is no more sheep there will be a real change in Mexico!
I must add the farc and eln and escobar were attacking the state and the wealthy! The cartels attack the ordinary citizen, the same citizen the rich rape! So, as long as the cartels leave the state and the rich oligarchs alone the gvt will only pay liup service to defeating the cartels.
ReplyDeleteWhat needs to be done is the ordinary citizens take back their country and the wealth and their security! Revolution! Civil war!!!
All about money ,at least back in the day drug traffickers stuck to pushing and selling dope and mexico was fine ,now theyre stealing,killing innocent people ,kidnapping,extorsion, those pussys zetas changed the game ...GO BACK TO SELLING AND PUSHING DOPE..LIKE IT WAS BEFORE
ReplyDeleteWhere are Los Pepes? Send in those Pepes now!
ReplyDeleteIt is very sad to see how people over there are living terrified. Bless them.
ReplyDeleteOnly when the rich oligarchs who are destroying mexico are kidnapped and their busness`are threatened will the gvt really go after the cartels. Until then, the masses will continue to be terrorized and murdered at will!
ReplyDeleteIn Colombia there is armed community miltias formed in many neighbourhoods to protect its families!
This is really disheartening, I can't imagine that mother's pain and disgust at the government.
ReplyDeleteMay 23, 12:36pm.
ReplyDeleteI dont think Calderon will go down as a fool, I think he will go down as the first Mexican President to have the balls to stand up for what is right, and fight the corruption.
Very sad story. These peopel are possessed by demons.
ReplyDeleteThe city name was misspelled.
ReplyDeleteRegardless of the writer's proficiency in English, I still very much appreciate his work and insight. As for the commentator, get of the site you fucken puto. Your more concerned about grammar than substance. Pinche guey.
ReplyDeleteCould I possibly get the link to the original in Spanish? this translation is a bit off.
ReplyDeletei know that loco fuckface he made alot of shits here rape few girls too fucking sedena need find a fucking butchery to get join here even when they knwo zetas was here fucking the people now is cdg here lets see what come now find lazca and 40 and this shit is over there is just work people here in cadereyta in my opinion fuck cdg cuz i know how thoose fuckers work and fuck zetas this shit need finish fuck peña nieto
ReplyDeleteI used to think places like xalapa, Cuernavaca, taxco were far enough away from the cartels. Not so much anymore! So sad
ReplyDeleteYea taxco n cuernavaca r crazi i jus gott back from mexico n shitt itz crazi
Deletefuckin zetas n all dwm greddy carteles dat want all 2 dem selfs fukin corrupted ppl i hate it bcuz i liv in da USA n far away from family friends y los putos aya d webones robando matando y todo el desmadre aver pongansen a trabajar como aki d 6am a 7pm d la noche par d putos si su vida no vale nada densen en la madre solo dejen a los innocentes en paz
DeleteAquí abajo la liga del artículo original. No veo ninugna discrepancia con la traducción.
ReplyDelete"Bajaron" ( los crimenes de extorsión, robos, raptos ) fue omitida pero nada grave que cambie el contexto. Saludos.
Down below is the link to the original article. I don´t see any discrepancy with the translation. Kidnaps, robberies, extorsions.. "Dropped" this word was dropped. Nothing serious that would change the context. Greetings.
Havana did a good job translating it.
http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2012/05/20/politica/011n1pol
I'm glad I now know more about that town than just the place they dumped the 49 bodies . I feel their pain and am frustrated because nothing will get better. Thank Borderland Beat
ReplyDeleteLooks like CDG is in this town cuz of the Z's were there, no way would there be people protesting.
ReplyDelete-Professor
@ 2:13 PM added the link for you, Havana does a great job translating proof is thousands of hits and 2 complaints :)
ReplyDelete@4:58 Could you understand the story? Are you ESL? Go to the original source it is in Spanish.
@1:44 I corrected the misspelling of the city just for you.
@2:03 PM-Gracias, amigo
Translation is a laborious task. We are all volunteers who work without pay. It is our mission that all who visit BB acquire narco news as quickly after breaking as possible; we will make a mistakes but unless it changes the essence of the story, or alters fact....perhaps the small errors can be overlooked.
We have lives apart from BB.... Most folks understand this and appreciate our work. This post had thousands of views, and only 3 complaints.
Something to think about is often a contributor will tire of the constant nitpicking and pack up and leave. That is extremely unfortunate.
If you are interested in helping with translations, contact myself or any of the reporters offering help. I have posted that several times now and not an offer yet…
Paz, Chivis
Ey man,there is nothing worse than the grammar police.Its pretty pathetic when you think about it.I come here to get an update of these unfortunate things we are discussing.I do not come here to correct someones minor and probably rushed translations.They are trying to disseminate this news as quickly as possible for the benefit of all of us.So please,don't try and be superior by pointing out silly little mistakes?Guess what,i to see some,but i don't feel the need to get hysterical over it.There are more important issues.I am trying not to curse,i may even put a spelling mistake in,on purpose,just to piss you clowns off!
ReplyDeleteChivis, it is not perfect but very understable. Don`t listen to the complainers. I do appreciate your work and dedication to inform the english speaking world of the great problems in mexico. I have lived in Mexico and am shocked on much it has slipped into the fiery abyss! Gracias senor si yo puedo algunos ayudar para escribiendo en inglis yo estare feliz. mi espanol esta no bueno pero mi inglis esta muy bueno!
ReplyDeleteOh man this shit really pisses me of.
ReplyDeleteAs my hermano May 23, 2012 2:03 PM said,,,,
"Regardless of the writer's proficiency in English.
As for the commentator, get of the site you fucken puto"
Succint and to the point.
I'm feelin you on that hermano.Run that shit by him again.The little crank
When you said "quartered" did you mean the mans 52 year old son was dismembered? As for Calderon being a "fool" Calderon had no choice the people don't trust the "police" and before Calderon became president & if say Peña Nieto becomes president and they recall the army, doesn't mean the problems didn't exist before Calderon or after Calderon, the problems Mexicio has now is because no other president had the balls to stand up to these scum cartels, if the politicians & the public did the same the cartels wouldn't exist. Calderon deserves more respect.
ReplyDeleteI see what's going on someone is jealous of Havana. Or u may not like Havana.
ReplyDeleteI'm a spanish teacher. The piece isn't literature to start with. Havana didn't write it. The article is translated verbatim except for minutiae that changes nothing. You could say thanks for the story.
Interesting story. Makes you really see how far out of control things have gotten in Mexico.
ReplyDeleteSomeone said something interesting up there that I have never thought of before.
If Mexico can't ask the US for help taking out the cartels because they are too prideful and don't like gringos with guns on their tierra, why can't they ask for help from Columbia. Los Pepes may be free and gunning for some Zeta ass.
I used to translate articles for you guys, but then one day I was just scratched and I never knew why, but that's ok. We are all busy with other stuff. I actually find translation fun, challenging, and rewarding, but yes it is extremely laborious....Tiangera.
ReplyDeleteI'm not even apart of any of this in anyway! I'm a 4th generation Mexican immigrant and we have been in the U.S.A for a long time. I want you to know that this is a very very very sad thing to read and hear of all the things going on in Mexico!. I'm also going to say that Borderland Beat is frickin amazing with all the work they do!!! The stuff I read and see on here is unreal! America has not even heard of this site! Not many people do know what's really going on down in Mexico. You could make millions of Movies out of the stories I read here!. Godbless your country and the people no one deserves the shit those criminals do!!! Its a fact USA needs drugs period!! But let those people get caught on their own!! The violence is unecessary and from what I read! CHAPO should be in charge and get rid of the rest of the garbage! Cause honestly seems a lot smarter and is willing to get this shit straight all the rest of these cartels are peasent's VIVA Mexico and its people but CHAPO needs to run this shit cause someone has too!
ReplyDeleteSincerly, A loyal reader
@Chivis
ReplyDeleteReally appreciate the work you guys/gals do.
Without your efforts I would know nothing (especially as I don't speak Spanish).
Thanks again to every one of you reporters.
@ May 23, 2012 11:52 AM
ReplyDeleteAre you serious no CDS boss ever caught??? Nachito Coronel don't count???
Chives, Havana and crew, keep up the good work. I am proficient in English and Spanish. I have translated documents before and can attest to the difficulty of the task. One must contemplate whether to use a literal or actual translation. Then there is the matter of paraphrasing for clarity and translating colloquialisms. It can quickly become a nightmare. You all keep reporting and we won't sweat the minor details. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteThe Cartels are openly fighting the government and its so bad that the military has to be deployed throughout the country. Thats a civil war not a drug war. Once the PRI comes back to power they will make a deal with the cartels to take their share and cut down the violence. The population can go back to living normal lives and tourism will go back to normal as well. I can not wait for the july election to see how this plays out.
ReplyDeleteI think Mexico needs to create large gated communities in Baja where all the police and their families will live in peace and safety while they are rotated into cities for 6 month periods. They also will need to be paid well and give all of the benefits that law enforcement is afforded in the US. Would make it much harder for them to choose corruption. You give a man something worthwhile and he will work to protect it...
ReplyDelete"I think Mexico needs to create large gated communities in Baja"
ReplyDeleteSome fuckin idiots on here.Ye that's right,create another Brazil,create more resentment,create more haves and have not's,more alienation.Its bad enough already and your solution is to protect the moneyed haves,and fuck the ones who have shit.No wonder the world is getting more violent by the month.Sheeeeit.
Well how do you combat corruption Einstine?? The poor would be able to become honest cops...security of your country should be the most honorable able profession a person could undertake.
DeleteThank you all for the nice comments...we appreciate that very much...
ReplyDeleteU guys suck!!!!..lol,j/k....post my comments,man,what the hell!!!!
DeleteI just read the story and all the comments. I understood the story fine. What is the problem I don't need Gabriel Garcia Marquez when I'm catching up on the real Mexican news. The point is Cadereyta is a route and the people have been abused and no one in the government cares. Totally sad but thanks for including it Borderland Beat.
ReplyDeleteMay 24, 2012 6:59 AM
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I think my comments aren't never included because I express myself not well. But I like this BBB even if they don't put me on ever yet. I come here ever day especially since the dump. I read this article when it came out last week. I grew up in Cadereyta and now I am in Texas. My family is there behind doors in Cadereyta just like the article says. In both languages it is the same a shameful tragedy that made me cry. I read it twice a day in any language because it makes me feel maybe with exposure there is hope. The names are changed by the way. Keep bringing the truth out of Mexico and maybe we won't be forgotten. Thank you Chivis and thank you Havana-
ReplyDeleteRIP Chuiqiline de Caderyta
ReplyDeleteThanks for the link Chivis, and how would I actually contact you about doing future translations myself? I'm a Canadian who lives in Mexico and can translate spanish into english quite well for the most part.
ReplyDeletei got to say..usually the people complaining about the translations are not all that great at speaking english themselves...
ReplyDeleteit is not that easy to translate from spanish to english
have a little appreciation ya'll maynes
@"lito"brito-nice to see you back 'round these parts
ReplyDeleteLOL at what you said. Funny how true that is. Never heard such petty criticisms. It's easier for many to be critical than it is to be reflective or grateful.
For "If you are interested in helping with translations, contact myself or any of the reporters offering help. I have posted that several times now and not an offer yet…
ReplyDeletePaz, Chivis
May 23, 2012 5:03 PM"
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Por mi cuenta de hotmail tres días atrás envié a BB el resultado de mi traducción al inglés un hecho noticioso (news story) reciente que había encontrado en el internet. Al final de mi correo electrónico le pedí feedback de ustedes y aún nadie ha respondido a mi carta. ... JUM.
If you want to encourage people to translate to English narco related news stories ¿why not at at least ACKNOWLEDGE that you have received an e mail from from that person who has made an effort? If you are only interested in particular news stories then perhaps you can give detail on that so that those who wish to translate text to English chose narco news stories that are of interest to you.
Desde hoy, si me necesitan, estaré en la playa sin mi cell ... ja ja ja
Que tengan una buena fin de semana
The only way to stop the drug war in any drug infested country is for Americans to stop buying drugs. Without us the cartel would be nothing! Saying no to drugs isn't just about saving yourself, it's about saving hundreds and thousands of other people's lives. Drug abuse is not just about selling to minors, spreading infectious diseases by tainted needles, or over dosing; it is also about preventing the horrific, hanious, sensless murders of innocent men, women and children.
ReplyDeleteGod Bless