Rio Doce
Sunday, October 14, 2012
Translated by un vato for Borderland Beat
Not wanting a repeat embarrassment as in the Lazcano killing, Torres' body is being fully guarded at the Sinaloa medical examiners office (el pais) |
He confronts the Army in the Valle de San Lorenzo
For Manuel Torres, "Manuelon", "El Ondeado" or "El M1", the insomnia ended. In the early dawn on Saturday, October 12, 2012, he died during a confrontation with Army special forces.
They hunted him down like the wildcat that he was. Spotlighted at night on a road close to Oso Viejo, Quila, he wasn't able to get away this time like he did so many other times when, by blood and fire, he was able to flee to hide in his dens and his hills.
According to the first versions of the facts, some gathered by reporters who arrived at dawn to the Valle de San Lorenzo and some communicated unofficially by the military itself, Manuel Torres, accompanied by a strong group of bodyguards, met up with federal forces and tried to evade them. But they had him surrounded. For several days, special forces, supported by the 9th Military Zone, had seeded personnel throughout the area. At dawn that day, a contingent of soldiers came in through Tacuichamona headed towards Oso Viejo, and a similar force came down from Quila, forming an impassable pincers, even though Torres knew the terrain like the palm of his hand.
The moment they clashed, Manuel Torres got down off the vehicle he was riding and tried to flee through the hills. But he was hit by gunshots. He fell right there.
They took two .38 Super pistols and seven unfired .22 cartridges from him. The Attorney General, Marco Antonio Higuera Gomez, revealed that (Torres) had on him $9,980 dollars and 23,500 pesos, plus portions of a white powder, apparently cocaine.
Although official reports do not mention detainees, RioDoce sources assure (the journal) that there were many.
Black death card
Sinaloa had never know such a bloodthirsty drug trafficking operator. They're in all the gangs; his brother Javier Torres, in prison in the United States, where he's serving a sentence for drug trafficking, also confronted the Mexican Army, and in that incident a soldier died. Then, his own bosses gave him up and he was extradited.
Javier Torres was one of Ismael Zambada Garcia, "El Mayo's," top lieutenants. And, although Manuel Torres never attained the same standing in the structure, he was a key player in the organization after the war broke out in the Sinaloa cartel.
Manuel Torres took on the job of confronting, with blood and knife, the new enemies of Zambada and Joaquin Guzman: the Beltran Leyva brothers.
Hundreds of deaths are attributed to commandos led by Manuel Torres, who rightly earned the pseudonym of "El Ondeado" because of his lack of emotional stability.
He didn't discriminate. It was all about taking care of the plaza for the one who had always owned it, and he acted without any consideration. Thus, police from all agencies fell, and even some military personnel who dared invade his territory, losses that the Army never reported.
From the start of the war in 2008, the Torres (brothers) were the target of attacks from their new enemies, largely by means of a group called "Los Charritos," linked to the Araujo family, whose principal pillar of support was Gonzalo, "El Chalo" Araujo.
On April 4, with hostilities barely begun, young Joel Torres Jimenez, son of "El JT," was attacked outside a pool hall located in the Colonia Guadalupe Victoria. He was 19 years old, and he survived.
A few weeks later, April 18, another Torres, this one the son of Manuel, Atanasio Torres Acosta, "El Tachio", was murdered. This happened right beside the buildings of the Health Ministry, in the Montebello residential district.
Police located one of the vehicles apparently used by the gunmen. A red Tsuru [Mexico's version of the Nissan Sentra.-- un vato], where they found AK 47 rifles with a message: "From your compadre and his Z nephews. So you will remember, Manuel Torres."
"El M1" went crazy with the death of his son, whose wake was held in one of his houses in the valley. That same night and the next day while they were keeping vigil over Atanasio's body, Manuel Torres was taking his revenge on young men that his gunmen were picking up and taking to his home for him to torture.
Nothing stopped him. All over the city, headless corpses started to appear, mutilated, with messages alluding to Tachio's murder. No death, no limit, could contain his thirst for vengeance until his death, Saturday at dawn.
The cartels were at war, but he was fighting his own war in the name of the affront he had suffered.
At the place where his son was murdered, they started throwing decapitated bodies, one of them that of Barcelo Villagran, who had been the commander of the Ministerial Police and chief of the Centauro Group. They amputated both legs, decapitated him and cut open his back with a knife while he was still alive.
Manuel Torres Felix was not even in the files of the PGR, much less in those of the State Department of Justice, when, on June 1, 2011, Barack Obama designated him, along with Gonzalo Inzunza Inzunza, "El Macho Prieto," as drug traffickers subject to the Kingpin Statute. This law targets drug trafficking bosses ("kingpins"), allowing the North American Government to freeze foreigners' bank accounts and businesses.
In Sinaloa, the Justice Department has in its files an old conviction on Manuel Torres, "since snakes walked upright" (very old, indeed), for carrying a firearm. But nothing else.
The bee sting
Manuel Torres died a natural death. On the run since President Calderon began his war, he did not rest. He lived in the hills, in the valleys and rarely came down to the city. He mistrusted even his shadow. He would go two, three nights without sleep, always alert.
Two weeks ago, a bee swarm attacked him and he had to be transferred to Culiacan, where they were barely able to save his life after hundreds of bees stung him. It wasn't his turn to live. He had one fate: El que a cuchillo mata, a cuchillo muere. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuhck.....
ReplyDeleteAll i want to kno who was it that killed el m-1 son...since everybody here seems to kno
DeleteHe did not run get your stories rite he stood and fought by himself after his crew left him
DeleteHe didn't. Run, he could've gotten away but by his choice he stood to fight alone killing 11 soldier and even bringing down a chopper el ondeado is a real legend, yeah he was blood thirsty but he always respected the lives of the innocent, he didn't make the war, what he did was get vengance just like anyone else would if that was to happen to your son
DeleteIts funny how. They never said he brought a chopper down always trying to make themselves look good
DeleteHe was a top Soldier you only killed his enemies no innocent people,and if I was crazy like him I would cutg hEads off too
DeleteOh so sad. RIP M1
ReplyDeleteAre u sad because a crackhead,murderergot his lead medecine?
DeleteGuy was an idiot killing and risking his and his family's skin to his "boss" el mz who dropped dimes on him.
DeleteR.I.P
ReplyDeleteEl Ondeado
Manuel Torres felix
he lucky the zetas didnt get him first.
ReplyDeleteZetas no la arman para el ondeado en vida y en muerte! Desde el infierno se carcajeya el 14! Y su clave sigue presente
DeleteZeta r shit
DeleteDEP Comandante.
ReplyDeleteGood riddance to that psychopathic savage. Fuck him and his low life family.
ReplyDeleteWhy don't you go fuck you're self he was one of the richest people inform you're self before u speak pinche pendejo
Delete"He would go two, three nights without sleep, always alert."
ReplyDeleteIf he was SO alert, maybe he should have noticed that bee hive in front of him.
Hahaha that's what I was thinking too... lol
DeleteHahahaha good one
DeleteU cant nottice bee hive because it comes feom nowhere and when u nottice it it to late
Deletegood work on the story
ReplyDelete-tyrone-
And this is why he was given up. Too much bad attention. Though he did end up getting revenge for his sons death, he could no longer live peacefully because he knew his actions were the very cause of of his own sons death. That and the fact that he killed tortured many innocents before he realized who it really was.
ReplyDeleteWell who was it
DeleteSo who killed manuel mendez leyva the barbie operative caught in sinaloa??????
ReplyDeleteHector Beltran Leyva "El H"
DeleteEl H and his people
DeleteThen why dis they get mad he was starting a war with el chapo he was wl hs enemy too i heard the dead man here did it elm1 el ondeado pero kien sabe
DeleteYea...you can usually go nights without sleep on the amount of blow he could afford! Still wished the zetas woulda found him, tho!
ReplyDeleteAy si Los zetas k Madres ban aser esos buenos para nada arriva michoacan
DeleteDEA & CDS both suck ass.
ReplyDeleteGuys like this dont come around often. Dep Manuel Torres Felix
ReplyDeleteI cheer for the Zetas,but this mofo i truly respect as an outlaw....he would of done much good on the other side.....fk Chapo...greedy bastard.
ReplyDeleteYour inconclusive id like to see the zetas cut one of your family members head off see if you still cheer for them grow up prick.
DeleteEl Ondeado was a Bad Mutha Fucka. Str8t up Killa. He killed for fun.
ReplyDeleteGood riddance to yet another plague to our society!
ReplyDeleteSomebody go kill the rest of his family now ...
ReplyDeleteYour such an idiot for saying that
DeleteIt's just a matter of time for anyone in the cartel. If you think you will survive being a member of the cartel, then you are an asshole. There are many cartel members but there are no old cartel members. News like this brings a warm smile to my face as I sip on my morning coffee. RIP? bull shit, get fucked in hell
ReplyDeleteEl Mayo is 64...
DeleteMany are part of the cartel and older than 64, your just a dumbass R.I.P Manuel Torres Felix
DeleteNice work author make this ultra violent greedy piece of shit sound in some way noble and brave and glamourous. Torturing people, decapitating them and cutting them open whilst they are still alive, this guy sounds a bit like Jeffery Dahlmer on steroids. Pure scum.
ReplyDeleteLet us not forget the human suffering created by these savages and their twisted soap opera.
if anyone killed my son I would do the same if not worse fuck u too dip shit
Delete@2:17 I noticed that most of M1 picks had him wearing gold rings. I re-watched the Manuel Mendez Leyva video the other the day to see if the person had the same rings. The killer didn't have those rings, it doesn't mean that its not him but it also doesn't point the finger directly to him. Does anyone know if it was him or not? Proceso (the magazine) said it was El Grande that killed Manuel Mendez Leyva
ReplyDeleteYou think gold rings last for long on a dead body? Please
DeleteWell earned haz duty pay.
DeleteM1 had the gold rings you dumbass
DeleteIf el Ondeado went on a rampage of killing to venge his sons death it shows that he loved his son, funny how Humberto Moreiera has done nothing to venge the death of his son, no father love there. Both of these sons died because thier fathers are dirty, but only one loved his son. The other loves his money. Cristero
ReplyDeleteAnd I love your mom....
DeleteDep comandante ondeado vengaste a tachillo...
ReplyDeleteSo who killed manuel mendez leyva
ReplyDeletewheres more m1 pics......y is there only one blurry one
ReplyDeleteJust another coked up dirtbag coward pushing unarmed people around. Without white powder courage, he's just another pussy wannabe. He tasted the honey he was responsible for marketing and protecting. He became a pos addict, junkie.
ReplyDeleteGood riddance pinche maricon
We can sit here and judge el M1 but none of us know what the dude lived thru. I am sure he owes alot of deaths but to say he was wacking innocent people very few will know. He is still a son, a father, brother etc.
ReplyDeleteHe was legend and now his legend will live on.
Does anyone actually know how old he was?
I am guessing early 50's, some are saying close to 60? And no I am not idolizing him, just saying.
Legend? Are you fuken kidding me??? Ue seriously fuken joking, do you think anyone will remember this POS in 50 yrs???? Dude, u don't sound that stupid but PLEASE don't post stupid shit. Doesn't mean ur stupid, just that u post pendejadas. And yes, you are idolizing him.
DeleteLegend? Are you fuken kidding me??? Ue seriously fuken joking, do you think anyone will remember this POS in 50 yrs???? Dude, u don't sound that stupid but PLEASE don't post stupid shit. Doesn't mean ur stupid, just that u post pendejadas. And yes, you are idolizing him.
DeleteMurder is murder so who cares. Being a dad or brother doesnt make it ok.
DeleteI mean Pablo is still immortal?? It's possible
Deleteand now he will be known as El O'Deado
ReplyDeleteI heard he was 56 and 58..not sure though. Looks a lot younger for a man who wouldn't sleep for days. Ha
DeleteThis piece of shit Coke Addicted Scum Bag has no one feeling bad that he's dead. I have friends in Sinaloa who knew him and his brother. The guy should have been murdered years ago but as it say's in the BB he didn't trust his own shadow. It's factual that he killed people that were his best allies becasue he was so coked out and paranoid that he thought they were setting him up. I'm sure Zambada was told that if he didn't
ReplyDeletekill this guy he'd better give him up or all hell was going to break loose. This guy was a Whacko and "Off The Chain" Nobody liked or trusted him cuz of his Coke Habit!
Your friends didn't know shit about him.. Shut the fuk up.. KOOK
DeleteYour friends didn't know shot about him.. Shut the fuk up you KOOK.. Trying to be cool
Deleteup 3 nights, chapo gave him good coke
ReplyDeleteEste wey no se rie en ni una foto
ReplyDeleteHe got killed because he was getting high off their own supply.....he was driving himself crazy
ReplyDelete"So who killed manuel mendez leyva the barbie operative caught in sinaloa"
ReplyDeleteIt was Zetas who abducted him,but some say Ondeado,El Grande,thats a pretty early one and one of the worst of the be heading's.Mendez Leyva doesn't even realize,that they've cut his throat?That was one sharp blade they use.I wonder if some major players are at work in that video?They are not young dudes who are doing it,and they look very professional all in black.They got a definite air of authority,anyone else add to Mendez Leyva killing?He is BLO i guess,and he talks about Barbie and a few others going to war against Guzman when the boss orders it.I think its definitely Zetas killing him?
Some say it was el fantasma who was interrogating him
Deleteso did he died by the bee stings or the military, im confused.
ReplyDeleteREST IN PISS M-1, rot in hell with your Son!
ReplyDeleteHahaha!!! Stung by bees!!! Sweet!!! He suffered before he died just like he should have for killing innocents!!! This psycopath had no regard for humanity, good job for the Mexican forces. Some are corrupt but you CAN'T deny shit is not turning around in Mexico for narcos for one reason or another.
ReplyDeleteM1s son tachillo was already following in his fathers footsteps when he was killed.he wanted to be just like his uncle and dad, just like so many youth of today aspire to be drugkingpins instead of doctors and lawyers in mexico.i have no pity for los torres,they got what was coming to them, and now theyre vulnerable,to revenge by people whom manuel might of hurt. This man was no hero, he was just another heartless killer,with no remorse for life,he didnt care if those were picked up were innocent or not!! Al infierno manuel torres!!!! The sins of the fathers, the children will pay!!!
ReplyDeleteSomeone posted something a while back, saying that Chapo told M1 to settle down or they were going to settle him down themselves. *Not saying that's what it is*
ReplyDeleteSo were the young men that M1 tortured innocent?
RIP - Rest In Pisss... hahaha El Ondeado piece of shit you got what you had coming.
ReplyDeleteI love the part about the bees.
This guy by all accounts was hitting the drugs pretty heavy, reminds me of that video where they had the massacre in chihuahua where the state police were filming the entire incident and all these guys were hitting the bag that the "leader" was dipping into also. This guy for sure looked the part, pretty scary looking and always high to what is being said. I guess there are no bans on the cartels anymore using drugs if you are in the mix. Being a heavy coke user or whatever can in no way make you more alert, just more paranoid, well maybe high and alert to the point of killing anything and anyone in sight. All these mistaken identities and innocent people killed maybe are the creation of all the drugs these guys take. Some guy in another story confessed people were selected randomly, just told to grab whoever they pointed out. Everything being placed on the appetite of drugs by americans is true to a point but the cartels and who they employ are right up there too. Someone with a ak47 and a bag of coke would be a major liability in a billion dollar operation.
ReplyDeleteis it true he was tormented because after killing so many people for his son's death, he realized his sons killer was among his own cartel?
ReplyDeleteTHE BEES......SINESS GOT HIM.....LOL
ReplyDeleteMay all of your actions affect your family for life!!!!!! Hillbillies on coke....
He was probably killed by the bees and the top dogs at cds were death ly embarassed to let the public find out that way so they sent a tip to the military and then threw his ed hardy wearing crack head ass out the car and let them think they killed him.
ReplyDeletechivis ya aparecio el video del comandante arguello de la laguna, get to work plz
ReplyDeletetheyre starting to get the big dawgs its a stupid war in reality and a big mistake by the cartels to have so many addicts working for them its only a matter of time before they start giving each other up. business should be done in peace and resort to violance only when necessary like back in amado carrillos days and not kill innocent people kidnapp and extortion just merchendise so the country could live in peace......
ReplyDeleteThats one less fuck to worry about
ReplyDeleteFirst el macho prieto now el m1 damn mayo cleaning house to save his own. El fantasma better watch his back hes the only one left outta the top lieutenants of cds
ReplyDeleteEl fanrasma works for Chapo if u didn't know.. Jesus pena el 20 is Mayos right hand man.. he's not all over corridos thast why u dont hear about him as much..
DeleteYou mean first el fantasma and now el m1. Macho prieto should watch his back especially after all those flip flop rumors. But new generations with los anthrax, el cholo "50" and his brother el italano.
DeleteSo el MP isn't with MZ no more?
DeleteWow it's so sad that people are actually sad for this devil's death. i can't believe people idolized him, and then we wonder why our children go the wrong path when they're parents listen to those corridors that make these kinda people seem like gods. I mean if a grown ass men idolize this piece of shit, imagine the kids seeing how they're parents love them, they grow up thinking that's the way to live n to be.... Smh such a shame.
ReplyDeleteMay this piece of shit rest in the fiery pits of hell and if the bee sting story is true or not is the best so glad he suffered before his death, karma gave him a Lil spoonful of his own medicine. Although it may never compare to how much he made innocent people suffer with his tortures.
who is this lady that had his son killed supposedly and why was his son killed??? and does anybody have the video of el m1 killing that guy that killed his son???
ReplyDeleteIs Larry Hernandez going to make a corrido about him running like a bitch? All of those songs about Sinaloa leadership are pure fantasies like Drake singing about being hardcore.
ReplyDeleteEl chiludo
Lmao.
Deletedrake.
What kind of a sucka works for someone who ratted out his brother? Pendejos plebes sell their own mammas to the highest bidder.
ReplyDeleteIt wasnt the Zetas,it was CDS doin the beheading... if it was the zetas they would of congratulated him not cut his head off!!!
ReplyDeleteIf JT own bosses gave him up meaning Mayo, why would M1 be working for him? And wasn't Chalo working for Sinaloa before he killed himself? Shits confusing...
ReplyDeleteThis guy was indeed crazy... I wonder if hes throwing it down in the depths of hell with lazca right now.. haha keep it up marina.. and good article.
ReplyDeleteYoshi_phumo
He would of done much good on the other team.
ReplyDeleteWhats up with all u haters. Yea he fuked up. But y r u guys calling him a lowlife. That type of cash he was carrying the day he died none of u will ever hold. U guys have bigass mouths but y do u guys write comments anonymously?? Cus u know these low lifes could track u all the way to ur stupid trailer trash neighborhood. Y are the mexicans so rich now???? Bcus of all the american tweekers!!!! First there were meth labs here now that the mexicans are cooking it all u white trailer trash hillbillys are buying it. While ur right here commenting ur son or daughyer are somewhere sniffing coke or meth and smoking crack and weed
ReplyDeleteYeah i will never hold 10 grand lol. He was a real contribution to society. I dont see you putting your last name too Alberto.
DeleteHey no race bashing calmate carnal its all good but lets not bash other races we all have opinions holmes chi town baby
DeleteHey m1 towards the end and even before was always coked up it was a matter of time before he slipped and did something stupid to jeopardize the organization whether he was set up or not he was a loose Canon.In this buisness you gotta be sharp lay low and watch you back when your on drugs you gotta go, he had to go At some point he was sharp towards the end he was the sacrificial Lamb. When your that high up in rank you suppose to be a professional very calculated individual but then again it could have been enemy or wrong place at the wrong time ill let you decide.
DeleteI'm smoking weed right now... Not the shitty Mexican garbage weed though. I love Mexico, and I love the Mexican people. M-1 was alright with me. He was at least working for a cartel that at least presents itself as being about business in traffic rather than kidnapping and mass murder. I know Sinaloa has committed atrocities, but they appear to be more pragmatic than others. What bothers the shit out of me is loudmouth idiots who think that because they hail from Mexico, they are somehow owed some sort of respect and they are inherently more legit in their opinions. It's just as annoying as racist whites who want to ruffle feathers. Mexicans who brag about their country exporting drugs and violence are incredibly stupid. Have you seen your country lately?
Delete@10:47 Thank you for your valuable insight. Does it make you feel better knowing that you are an all American boob? We all know the cartels are full of bad people...what's your point? Why even visit this site if you don't care about the inner workings of these organizations? Some of us find it interesting. Its not cheer leading. Does somebody hand you a cookie or a merit badge Everytime you testify to the cartels' depravity? I think they are bad people too...and I also think idiots like yourself with no eye for the relative nature of humanity are destroying the world. Go hack off to your Mitt Romney poster and help an old lady across the street you dork.
DeletePost my comment admin atleast for a couple of hours
ReplyDeleteThis was a man of men, turned to murderer now murdered himself. For the times and the place and the circumstance, I don't despise the man one bit. RIP M1
ReplyDeleteThey should have blown up his ranch in the middle of the night while his entire family was in it! They need to begin blowing up all of the narco mansions and ranches and pathetic mausoleums and monuments... For Mexico to allow the narco scum to have those right out in the open is pathetic! The ONLY good narco is a DEAD narco... M1 was a scum bag serial killer that preyed on Mexicos young men, he was no better than Jeffrey Dahmer and should have been killed years ago!
ReplyDeletefirst of all fantasma is REALLY a fantasma.. he got killed in feb this year. yeah yeah get over it. and when we el ondeado was a loser we mean it. he was a true low life. look albert money doesn't make the man.. man makes the money. the money this trash had is blood money that was spilled by our loved ones. i hope you little boy never have to endure the loss of an innocent family member to these assholes. further more we are on no way intimidated by any of these thugs here in the fkn u.s. of a we have the second ammendment and the right to defend our selves DO NOT CONFUSE OUR DISCRECIONS FOR WEAKNESSES.
ReplyDeletewhy are people sad over this scumbag's death? I'mma go celebrate this piece of turd's death right now, and Albert, you're an idiot, the type of cash he was carrying doesn't matter, being a lowlife isn't necessarily linked to how much cash you are carrying at the time of death, it's based on his cruel actions while he was alive. And, I'm sure that was of cash will do him lots of good now that he's six feet under, where he belongs.
ReplyDeleteMy respects to m1 . Most of us wouldn't defend our own blood I would go krazy if someone takes my kid away like that from me . Most of us would call po po and hope they rot in prison ,,, fuck that ! Eye for an eye !! I'm no killer but let's b real. Ms. Sabio
ReplyDeleteOye Alberto, selling dope & getting rich is one thing; going on murderous rampages is another altogether, especially if innocents were NEEDLESSLY involved. THAT is why there is hate for this guy. And carrying around 10 grand in your pocket seems impractical, not bada$$...but hey, whatever turns you on.
ReplyDeleteAdios, y que le vaya bién.
Attentamente, AmigoAnónimo
El macho prieto ain't dead you must be on dope Forsure
ReplyDeleteSecond post who killed him? Bees or marines make your mind up
ReplyDeleteNext up El MP don't piss your pant the bottom feeders got first that how CDS works..can't wait to see chapo on the gravediggers bed greedy f@#k
ReplyDeleteAnyone ever see that letter that "el lic damaso" allegedly wrote where it list who gives who up in the sinaloa cartel? The following is part of the letter:
ReplyDelete50 gives up M1
Fantasma gives up MZ
Bravo gives up Chapo
Maybe in fear the letter coming true they decide to beat them to the punch and get rid of fantasma and M1. I feel they keep 50 cuz he's more stable and if not mistaken somehow related to M1 and knows the workings of M1 so easily replace with younger more stable strong arm. I believe the next to hear about is el bravo. It's easy for them to give up people. MZ gave up his son cuz he was the responsible one for Edgar Guzmans death. Although it wasn't for him and he showed up unexpectedly he was still responsible. Chapo told Mayo to give him up or he would kill him. If MZ is so bad he should of stood up for his son. Not only as his boss but as his father instead he gave him up and now he's is jail in the USA.
Your a retard if you think mayo gave up his son because el chapo "threatened" him
Delete2:40 actually ur the retard ..cause Mayo did give up Vicentillo, so there wouldn't be a war among Chapo and Mayo.. or death to vicentillo
Delete^^ 10:43 if you dont live in culiacan please dont talk.
DeleteWho wrote this garbage? Are you capable of working out a peice of writing without so much of your own opinion and "spin" echoing through? Good news, shitty, shitty shitty writing. I'm surprised they didnt find el ondeado's dick in this author's mouth. I love Borderland Beat but bust out chisme without opinon....
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@ albert
ReplyDeletependejo
aunque la mona se vista de seda mona se queda. With cash o no cash, he was still a lowlife.
Hey Albert...Are you feeling better now:)
ReplyDeletejust wanted you to know we have received 8 comments that I have seen in reply, and all but one from Mexicans, in spanish, english and spanglish. There was a great one that I accidently deleted instead of posting, but I am proud of the comments because they all say "take it easy, no need for racism from either side". Racism never motivates racism to change an opinion. (2 wrongs don't make a right) It takes away from a message, shifts focus. The reality is there are bottom feeders in every race, Anglos and Mexicans are no exception. Paz, Chivis
What do these idiots want? It's like if every article doesn't blast a cartel member for being a bad person, you are cheer leading. I'm sure nobody working on the site thinks any cartel members are admirable citizens. Please don't let the wide cross section of morons who seem to be taking this site over dissuade you from writing how you want to write. The people who matter know that the issues are a lot more complex than simple good vs. evil. I like pieces that speak to the human side of these people, and don't pass judgement. We all know the cartels do evil things. It isn't necessary to repeat what bad people they are in every article. I'm so tired of seeing grammar hawks and self righteous fools who want every sentence to blast the cartel members' character. - el blanco guy
Deletedon't know much of his background. As far as laying low, I can tell you he wasn't just by the many pictures I've seen of him on the internet (to top it off, with guns in hand). How many pictures do you see of top leadership? Chapo, Emilio Cazares, Ovidio Limon? Most of the top leadership we've probably never even heard of. My two centavos.
ReplyDeleteelchavo
@ 10/17 9:53pm, jajajajaja there is no 600N Telephone rd Houston Tx. be specific...we cant find you
ReplyDeletetrailer trash hillbillys????..mayote detected?...callate pinche mayote...or mebbe you are just a kneegrow wannabe..u be saggin o what foo...pull your pants up stupid
ReplyDeleteCartel business is a dirty business everyone betrays each other there is no loyalty no respect no codes of honor .Sicarios will pick up innocents just to fill up thier kill quotas .this man was a coke head and a murderer but the Corridos make you think he was some sort of Super Hero Assasin (the mexican Rambo), however i respect the fact that he wanted to avenge his son's death .based on the previous comments it wasn't necessarily Arturo's people that killed his son more clarification please
ReplyDelete3:26 PM
ReplyDelete"All of those songs about Sinaloa leadership are pure fantasies like Drake singing about being hardcore" El chiludo....
Fuckin funny.Drake don't know whether he white,black,ghetto,Blood.Ey man he a g,did you know he sips now?He gotta be?
Anyway,who the fuck killed Mendez Leyva?Anyone know,was it the Z?
"Hey no race bashing calmate carnal its all good but lets not bash other races we all have opinions holmes chi town baby"
ReplyDeleteI can dig it man,no need for the loser shit.
No race likes getting racist shit thrown at them.
9:51 PM
ReplyDelete"Eye for an eye !! I'm no killer but let's b real. Ms. Sabio"
Don't speak for everyone.99% of people would do fuck all,someone kill your son,brother,family,its a must you go hunting for that shit.That's about all i can feel him on,not all the innocents that he fucked with.Eye for an eye is justice,it is the most natural thing in the world.
9:54 PM
ReplyDelete"I post anonymous because its the easiest and fastest way to post a comment"
Man,i don't know why you bother.Albert the bell just another bitter racist loser,and he talks about hatin?
"Albert,you were the only one goin on about race,what a prick you are"
Albert,even Anglos get hurt by racism.I know,,,it seems ok to be racist towards us?But the way it pisses every other race off,it pisses us off,especially if it got no reason to it,like your bullshit comment.Notice i don't reply with racist bullshit?A bit of restraint and common sense go a long way you know Albie.
ReplyDeleteHey Albert, post your full name and your address so we can send the Marinas after you and your family.
ReplyDeleteAlberto torres
DeleteLos llanos, sinaloa
Los llanos sinaloa esta de luto :(
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ReplyDeleteD.E.P Manuel Torres
Gracias!
DeleteM1 killed innocent youngmen? No, i dont think so. Thats what chivis posted but that info is not accurate. No offense chivis. In 2008 when atanacio was killed was the same year the war between BLO and CDS erupted. Causing mass confusion in everybody. No one knew who they were with or what was going on. M1 knew who was with el mayo and who wasnt seeing that he worked in close proximity with mayo. So when they killed his son he knew he needed revenge so what he did was "levantar a los que estaban con los beltranes" and yes they were youngmen.
ReplyDelete13 years old? 15 years old? weren't kids working for the BLO
DeleteI have noticed that Borderland Beat posts way, way more anti US anti white comments than vice versa... It is way more slanted against whites and the US.
ReplyDeleteOnly an ignorant person would glamorize any criminal narco cartel member and that is one of the biggest things that is wrong with Mexico. There is a very large segment of Mexican society that live in poverty that talk about and glamorize these cartel members as if they are some type of hero when the truth is they are the exact opposite. The criminal cartels have psychologically manipulated Mexico for years, they control everything from education to judicial and prison system parts of the military and government are also in the criminal cartels grip and that is why Mexico does not have the death penalty. Those of Mexican society that glamorize the cartels and look at them as some kind of national soap opera are a huge part of the problem for Mexico. M1 was one of the biggest scum bags that ever lived and he did absolutely nothing to help himself or his family, he caused his own sons death and there is nothing good that can ever be said about him. He was a coward that was afraid to live life like a real man so he always looked for the easier softer way just like all of the others that choose to join a narco cartel, its the choice of cowards... The only good narco is a dead narco!
ReplyDelete@ 11:08.. man I must have been sleepwalking if I posted that, where is that posted?
ReplyDeleteI usually refrain from those assessments and do not cheerlead a cartel and consider all of them equal culpabilty in the destruction of Mexico.
if i said it was a generalization of all being the same and doing the same.
no offense taken I just don't recall stating anything...Paz, CHivis
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ReplyDeleteM-1 did kill innocents period. He was torturing and killing anyone who he thought could of been responsible, so he could get information. His new corrrido even says he picked up hundreds because of what happened to his son.
ReplyDeleteYou think he was going to torture hundreds and let them go? No.The Beltran's had nothing to do with his sons death, thought that's what he had previously thought.
folks, no more comments about the racist comment. done. enough said. it has taken over the topic. thank you
ReplyDelete@ Albert
ReplyDeleteHaving you son and other members of your family murdered, being seperated from loved ones for years because they're incarcerated, and going around not knowing whether you're gonna be the next star in an internet beheading video is a steep price to pay for being able to carry around $10,000 dollars.
It's not just Mexico. it's all latinamerica, research why that. love/hate relationship. start with el Salvador and Guatemala.
ReplyDeleteIf the Beltran-Leyva's weren't responsible for his son death then who was? I keep hearing about this lady but nobody says why
ReplyDeleteEl Tío himself admitted respect to his son, but he didn't do it. He then goes on to downgrade M-1 telling him how much of a coward he is, and to stop killing innocents.
ReplyDeleteThere is no lady involved in M-1 sons death I assure you that is complete BS. Manuel eventually knew who had done it, or at the very least who sent for his son to be killed. He never said publically who it was, because his own actions resulted in his own sons death for what he had done. Manuel had a internal problem. He had enemies that weren't necessarily Cartel related. There are many big Druglords you never hear about that are nearly as powereful as Mayo, and Chapó themselves. One example is Azul. Though he wasn't put as (head) he would never want to own that title, and he is just as powerful if not more. He is rarely brought up, because he doesn't want to be. He is from the Original generation of narcos. From a time when many of the heads of current cartels worked together before branching off.
Cocaine does make you alert...just dont abuse it.
ReplyDelete"I mean Pablo is still immortal?? It's possible"
ReplyDeleteErr,no hes not,hes dead meat.
"What do these idiots want? It's like if every article doesn't blast a cartel member for being a bad person"
ReplyDeleteYou bring up a good point,its the herd mentality i think,saying what you believe everyone else wants to hear?But,you yourself have been guilty of it?
In your fawning adoration of certain contributors.
At the end of the day,there are a wide variety of opinions that will be viewed here,and inevitably disagreements will form,as long as they are pertinent and not comments about nationality and race?This blog is about the Mexican problem after all,but sometimes people see it as some kind of hate agenda,which certainly it is not?I would hope it is not anyway?
Albert said...
ReplyDelete"Alberto torres
Los llanos, sinaloa"
Be cool Albrecht,its just a blog man.Rein it in.Get off that shit,you know what kicked it all off man?
Anyway,tell us whats up in Sinaloa?Is it quiet,hot,cool,wish i was kickin it there with you.
He was born in 1954, would make him 58 years old. Whatever you guys say he lived what he said he was. " a narco ". He was a veteran in the narco game to say the least. I didn't think he was that old.
ReplyDeleteDando batallas hasta la muerte el Senor.
donde anda el ondeado....jajajaja fuck him may he rest unpeacefully
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ReplyDelete"All i want to kno who was it that killed el m-1 son...since everybody here seems to kno"
Don't you get it,no-one here knows?They all comment as if they know?Haven't you ever wondered why they just don't say who it was?They always use the"i know"or"La empresa""it was a woman"?It is always innuendo as if some of these who comment do know?Bottom line is they don't know shit about it,they are trying to insert themselves into it as though they know whats up?Cause they from Sinaloa they think they know more?But it is always gossip.
Look dude El cuchillo del ondeado nunca se mancho con Sanger De inocentes. I'm not glorifying him At all. I'm just saying that. Everyone he killed had a reason to be killed. Look bro si yo no Debo nada no tengo que temer De nada. Those. Guys have the money the power to find out who was involved in his sons murder. And even. The ones that weren't. Involved. They died because they were zetas. Obviously! If someone kills my son I'm killing. Him for sure. And especially if he was my enemy from before. And about what you guys saying that it was El Mayo that killed his son you guys are all wrong. Go on to gooogle and type in "Manuel. Torres. Felix" and read on the history of the war between him and the BLO. It clearly states that El botas blancas did it. And if ABL denied that then it just goes to show how much of a man he was. Because he knew that m1 was beating him in the battle and that sooner or later he was Gina get to him. That's why he decides to change his story. At the end. M1 had the strength from CDS backing him. And who had the BLO back. Boone sure they were. Connected. With zetas but they had just hooked up. They weren't. Trusting them for shit........ all I'm saying is m1 knife never got stained with the innocent. Blood
ReplyDeleteSteven Rodriguez
ReplyDeleteI bet i got better knives than him?I collect them fuckers and i got some fuckin beautiful knives,hand forged,huge double blade autos,damascus steel from all over.I know he liked his knives.
He cant be all bad if he liked knives.Why do we think he liked knives?Cause he was a violent guy?
I understand man but my point is he killed those who were His enemies only. If he was out killing innocents. They would've killed him along time ago trust me. And yes man I bet you do have really nice knifes. Maybe some never seen. Just that all there shit was made with gold and diamonds... they have the money to do it...... I would to! And you would to bro....
ReplyDeleteR.I.P. Manuel
ReplyDeleteM-1 did kill innocents! ABL denying it because he wasn't a man?!You don't know what your talking about! Like ABl was going to deny killing M-1's son but then proceed to tell him he'd smoke him? When Chapó and Mayo gave up Mochomo it was on.
ReplyDeleteABL declared war on Chapó and anybody he was affiliated with, yes the very man he helped escape from prison, the same man he knew as a kid from the same barrio (La Tuna). M-1,Chapó and Mayo all fled Culichi like cowards when all hell broke loose and didn't return until ABL was dead and the dust had settled, they even took out JBQ. It was time to monopolize and take over. Though not very moraly sound they made the right decisions in fucking others over. Strictly businessmen.
There are many who don't know who killed M-1's son, and a lot fewer who know. If you connect the dots you'll figure out who it was. I didn't figure it out myself so I'm not surprised there are so many who haven't, you can make your own opinion on why I don't give a name or even how I'm in the know, it doesn't matter.His own actions led to his sons death. It was his own blood that spilt his sons is all I can say. For personal reasons I will not give more details, atleast not now, just the previous clue. Though I must admit its amusing to see the rumors and guesses that many post.
@2:14.
DeleteWe need. Another clue. I'm curious to Who really killed him. U said his own blood so must be a family member. But has to be someone with power.one more clue?
El JT killed his son because ondeado was tapping JT's daughter. Its a fact check facebook!
Delete^^ Exactly anybody who compares an alpha dog to a second fiddle enforcer who does all the dirty work (M-1) doesn't know what there talking about. M-1's newest corrido just released a few days ago itself says that that just for his son alone he picked up hundreds you really think hundreds were involved in his sons death? He killed innocents.
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ReplyDelete"For personal reasons I will not give more details, at least not now, just the previous clue. Though I must admit its amusing to see the rumors and guesses that many post"?
Don't be shy,just say what you think you know.Or don't know?No-one knows who the fuck you are so whats with all the"i might tell you shit"you sound like a little shy girl"i don't want to"Grow up and stop bullshittin everyone?
This is a blog to share these kind of things,what is the point of acting all coy,as if you a cartel player?Even if you family who cares,no-one knows you.I don't get this type of shit"i know but im not telling"you just told us most of it?Man,stop with the bullshit,just say what you mean,don't be scared baby girl.
esta en un mejor lugar hahahah
ReplyDeleteYea he killed hundreds........ of zetas! He killed all who were involved in any way or form in his sons murder. And seeing that by killing them wasn't guna bring his kid back. He just said fuck it I'm just Guna kill zetas period anyone I can get my hands on. He killed anyone who was a zeta or was affiliated with them! So yeah he did kill hundreds. If I'm with or hanging around with any criminal street gang and even though I'm not banging yet and you see me with them. Acting like dressing. Like them. What are you guns think of me huh? Of course that I'm one of them. Nobody that he killed was innocent trust me. If you get killed for hanging around with zetas I'm sorry bit you put yourself in that predicament. No one else. So you deserve to die for hanging around. With those idiots
ReplyDeleteTengo la pechera ajustada y con lanza granadas me cuido el pellejo DEP EL M1 ESTO ERA UNA TRAICION NO SE DEJEN TORRES!!!!! MIS RESPETOS
ReplyDeleteSteven you are stupid beyond belief if you think Zetas killed his son.
ReplyDelete...pinches perros...un rezo al viejon...
ReplyDeleteHe did not run get your stories straight he stood there and fought those fuckers till death if he really is dead
ReplyDeleteall he wanted was to avenge his sons death which he did.i still have in denial that he was killed.there is only on picture that is upposably him in the morgue!.i kno for a fact if any father would lose his son to sumone else killin him!i would do the same..find out who did it,torture him,his felllow friends..dnt touch his family,jus him n his compadres!like manuelon said,los grandes siempre contra los grandes!
ReplyDeleteRIP Ondeado, You were a hell of a soldier for the Sinaloa Cartel. Lucky fu.cki.ng zetarras. But trust me another GALLO will raise from and will take care of business the way you did... RIP Comandante Ondeado.
ReplyDeleteHe was a good man Everybody that's saying negative shut the fuck up and do your research!!
ReplyDeleteOtro putito vale verga muerto. Ke chingue su madre este puto y todo su pinchi klika.
ReplyDeleteVato had no sense of style he should have been killed based on that alone!!!!! DEA. has no business in Mexico... or perhaps Mexico should send undercover troops into the USA. Viva Mexico !!! Viva Villa !!!!! Mexico needs another Pancho villa ......
ReplyDeletemy guess is that fucken rat ass mayo killed ondeado's son,listen mayo, and chapo , don't run the show the fucken calderon administration does, along with the fucken C.I.A, and the D.E.A so when the C.I.A tells mayo , ondeado's son gotta go he has to go. Ondeado got set up by mayo too, come on coss the gulf cartel leader got arrested, then they killed lazcano from the zetas , they had to give some one up from the powerful snichaloa cartel , and of course it wasen't gonna be mp,50,or el veinte pena so they some how decided to give up el ondeado aka m-1 the only threath to the mayo family so fuck the fucken mexican government along with the fucken U.S.you fools don't see the big picture here??? The drug war in mexico is provocked by the C.I.A the the math fools.
ReplyDeleteArriba el. ondeado para siempre bein firme viejon
ReplyDeleteYa se te acabo el corrido.jaja arriba los beltran dinastia Botaz Blancazzz!!!!!
ReplyDeleteSigue el macho prieto sino se pone las pilas
RIP Ondeado.
ReplyDeleteMayo gave up M1 because he was bad for business. After he started beef with Gonzalo Inzunza when el MP and his people executed one of El M1's close associates without permission.. El MP was so scared of el Ondeado threaths to him, his group and his family. He ran away to Mexicalli seeking support from el Cheko o el 6, his compadre. Thus causing the Sinaloa Cartel to lose the Sonora corridor. MZ gave him up, as he has done it with Lamberto Verdugo, Javier Torres, Pancho Arce...
ReplyDeleteThe list goes on and on. They only use you and dispose of you. They don't know the meaning of loyalty. It's all about money and power.
By the way, research this info. It's legit. DEA intelligence has provided it to Mexican Authorities. Yet is available online as public records.
Mayo gave up M1 because he was bad for business. After he started beef with Gonzalo Inzunza when el MP and his people executed one of El M1's close associates without permission.. El MP was so scared of el Ondeado threaths to him, his group and his family. He ran away to Mexicalli seeking support from el Cheko o el 6, his compadre. Thus causing the Sinaloa Cartel to lose the Sonora corridor. MZ gave him up, as he has done it with Lamberto Verdugo, Javier Torres, Pancho Arce...
ReplyDeleteThe list goes on and on. They only use you and dispose of you. They don't know the meaning of loyalty. It's all about money and power.
By the way, research this info. It's legit. DEA intelligence has provided it to Mexican Authorities. Yet is available online as public records.
Mayo gave up M1 because he was bad for business. After he started beef with Gonzalo Inzunza when el MP and his people executed one of El M1's close associates without permission.. El MP was so scared of el Ondeado threaths to him, his group and his family. He ran away to Mexicalli seeking support from el Cheko o el 6, his compadre. Thus causing the Sinaloa Cartel to lose the Sonora corridor. MZ gave him up, as he has done it with Lamberto Verdugo, Javier Torres, Pancho Arce...
ReplyDeleteThe list goes on and on. They only use you and dispose of you. They don't know the meaning of loyalty. It's all about money and power.
By the way, research this info. It's legit. DEA intelligence has provided it to Mexican Authorities. Yet is available online as public records.
Its funnny how y'all be talkin shit about el ondeado killing innocents and cds being pussies...hahaha,but ima jjust say this.el chapo never snitched on mochomo.it was a confusion,even a song made says it all.botas blancas had no backup..just by los zetas,so he said ima blame it on chapo...n he killed ondeados son,and ondeado killed 1000 before he died..most of it they don't. Say in the news...many were army who got infront of him and people workin for los beltran n zetas
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