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| The Zetas message "Aun quedamos los mejores y los mas preparados, los zetas seguimos presentes." TRANSLATION "We, the best and better prepared are still here, We Los zetas remain present" |
Oaxaca, Oax.- Alberto Lopez Bello and Jacobo Robles, reporters of police section of
the newspaper “El Imparcial” of Oaxaca, were arrested at dusk of this Saturday
when they were photographing a banner placed allegedly by members of the
organized crime on the pedestrian bridge of the municipality of San Antonio de
la Cal, over the federal highway 175 Oaxaca – Puerto Escondido.
The reasoning
of the uniform men, officers of the State Police (PE) leaded by secretary of
branch, Marco Tulio Lopez Escamilla, was that the journalists had been the
first to arrive to the scene and that is
why they surrounded them.
Despite that
the journalists identified themselves as workers of the aforementioned newspaper,
the police officers detained, then forcedly
transferred them to the headquarters of
the State Police, located on the nearby municipality of Santa Maria Coyotepec.
They
confiscated their photography equipment, cell phones and their motorcycles; besides,
they were processed and mugshot photographed front and sideways for the
formation of a file; which means that they were “put on criminal record” as if
they were delinquent.
Later, the
reporters of the newspaper “El Imparcial” were send to the office of the Attorney
General of the Republic (PGR), where later were released.
Alberto Lopez
Bello, reporter of police news and Robles, photographer/reporter,
announced that in the morning of this Saturday, they found a “narco banner” on
the pedestrian bridge of Conalep, on Avenue Simbolos Patrios, same banner that
they tried to photographed when they were arrested by officers of State Police.
Social media was on fire with comments
from angry citizens, below are a few:
@sniperoax 2h
narco banner allusive to criminal group appears on the pedestrian bridge of Conalep, near Simbolos Patrios
narco banner allusive to criminal group appears on the pedestrian bridge of Conalep, near Simbolos Patrios
@sniperoax 2h
Reporters were arrested by state pólice when they arrived for photographing the narco banner
Reporters were arrested by state pólice when they arrived for photographing the narco banner
@sniperoax 2h
Reporters were on disposition of PGR, for arriving at the site to do their journalistic job
Reporters were on disposition of PGR, for arriving at the site to do their journalistic job
@sniperoax 2h
People don’t just have to be cautious of the bad guys, but also of the police who do not protect the job of the media
People don’t just have to be cautious of the bad guys, but also of the police who do not protect the job of the media
@lopezallende1 6h
@GabinoCue Mr. Governor, two reporters were arrested for doing their journalistic job!! IT IS NOT FAIR!! @SrioSegOax
@sniperoax 2h
It is demonstrated that the credential Project for the media will not be good enough, if the basic is not respected, which is to inform
It is demonstrated that the credential Project for the media will not be good enough, if the basic is not respected, which is to inform
@sniperoax
The reporters identified themselves with the state police, and despite that, they were arrested, what happened @SrioSegOax where is the respect?
The reporters identified themselves with the state police, and despite that, they were arrested, what happened @SrioSegOax where is the respect?
@Betillocruz 1h
The reporters of El Imparcial were released this morning, but PGR confiscated their cell phones, cameras and motorcycles
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wonder what the manta read,looks like it's got metro's in it.
ReplyDeleteThe banner was hard to read,but I finally got it..it reads this:
ReplyDeleteQUEDAMOS LOS MEJORES Y LOS MAS PREPARADOS..LOS ZETAS..ESTAMOS PRESENTE...
I translated the banner..I posted it but don't know if it went thru.
ReplyDeleteQUEDAMOS LOS MEJORES Y LOS MAS PREPARADOS..LOS ZETAS..STAMOS PRESENTE..
sincerely,
dedicated bb reader
Of course they got arrested because our Mexican president wants people/world to think nothing happens there.Aqui nada pasa.
ReplyDeleteThe banner reads:
ReplyDelete"Aun quedamos los mejores y los mas preparados, los zetas seguimos presentes."
TRANSLATION
"We, the best and better prepared are still here, We Los zetas remain present"
"Only the best and most prepared are left..Los Zetas are still here"
DeleteThanks Chivis and Tijuano,but why put up a manta saying thus? you would think they would want to stay out of the spotlight as much as possible....strange narcomanta.
ReplyDeleteWhat is the source on this? You didn't write this, did you, Chivis? What does the banner say? I think there is more to this story. Please with the source- a bunch of twitter comments isn't enough
ReplyDeleteShitty backdrop can't read comments!!!
ReplyDeletethe police officers could be on cartels' payroll
ReplyDeleteor
the reporters looked like somehow associated with the cartels
(in Mexico no one really knows who is who,
so the corps were careful and simply arrested them)
so the police and m.p. took fotos of the reporters so they could be sent to the sicarios to know who to target. pinche ratas.
ReplyDeleteI say leave the fucking cartel alone. Thats whats wrong withthe united states we always in some one elses bissnuess. The fed eoukd rather spend money to follow cartel were ever they go then to use that money to find our missing kidd or feed the hunger or home the homeless theyact like they are tryiing to help us by getting the drugs off the streetz but the peoplr that r on drugs only hurt there selfs a drug dealer gets more time in priso than s child rapes ir murder ehats wrong with our judical system
DeleteWell cmon it is suspicious that the journalist arrived there before the police. They didn't take them to jail for taking a picture of the banner they took them to jail because they were the first at the scene.
ReplyDeleteThe cartels often notify the press of the banners (or bodies) and that's why they're there first. Standard practise. Occasionally it's the press who notify the police. You must be new here.
DeleteHello Chivis!
ReplyDeleteYou have any idea when go published dhe second part of the story about Tijuana Cartel and Arellano Felix? I go F5 every 30 minutes, because the first part was amazing.
Narco-Curious
DeleteI agree the history of this trade is so corrupt and deep I myself wondering in the next part
Vegas Guys
Nice job Tijauno ... I thought the last few was "somos" presente. They really ought to plan out their banners better; aesthetically speaking it's 'unpretty'.
ReplyDeleteIt's a shame when police come an grab the cameras of reporters just for taking pics of mantas. News black out, this way the people remain ignorant of events (aside from word of mouth).
CORRECTION. The banner is SUPPOSED to read:
ReplyDelete"Aun quedamos los mejores y los mas preparados, los zetas seguimos presentes."
I'm usually not a grammar Nazi, but the spelling on the banner reminds me of what someone with a first grade education would write. Literally. To say that they're the most prepared is laughable. It's almost like they're proud to be the biggest uneducated naco cannon fodders on the block. Incredible.
Oh hell, now mexico is turning into north korea and china...
ReplyDeleteThe problem is that is the EXCUSE the police took the reporters in NOT fact. Secondly the photos of the reporters, addresses etc are with the corrupt municipal police who are sure to give to Zetas.
ReplyDeleteTijuano, thanks I was going to keep it simple and say "Zetas are best" but decided the message was not important, it was silly, it was the fact the men were arrested and taken to PGR even after showing credentials and now they better go into hiding.
The bigger message is the overall policy of the new administration on non-transparency
Chivas,
DeleteAgain I am new here and pardon me if this is a dumb question but why would they be in trouble with Zetas just for taking a pic of that banner! Isn't that what Zetas want exposure
Vegas Guys
are you retarded she has meny valdez as source. He is an underground reporter
ReplyDeleteLol I just asked no need to get hostile sorry again was just a question
DeleteVegas Guys
You readers are the best, thank you for the help in reading the banner....Paz, Chivis
ReplyDeleteIt´s always these kind of things what piss me off the most, the bad guys doing bad things is expected, the government acting against the people once and again is what truly infuriates me
ReplyDeleteFor those not familiar with México who might think actions like this one don´t have much impact or that there´s a legitimate reason for the authorities to act this way, just to give you an example in the state where I live recently a statistics from the state government said that 80% of the population don´t have internet access...now think about what this means regarding access to information and pair it with news like the one in this article, this kind of things happen all around the country, and most locals can´t reach other sources, they are fed the information the government (and the cartels) allow.
Narco Curious
ReplyDeleteFirst off...welcome! You are the reader I hope to attract, Americans that want to be informed about the war next door. It should be an issue in the US of priority, yet mainstream news largely ignores the stories coming out of Mexico.
Your Q: Powerful cartels control regions of Mexico
Conducive to drugtrafficking into the US. About 1/3 of Mexico is involved in the hot (rojo) areas or areas of violence as cartels defend routes they have control over. When I say control, it means CONTROL, as in controlling politicians, media and municipalities (incl police) In effect they determine what is published and what is not. Not all banners are of the narcos whose signature is found within banners ( aka mantas) but most are. As for this banner, it is hard to say for a couple of reasons, the message is of no value, there is no claim or threat imposed and it is pretty crudely constructed. But in the southern part of Mexico as in Oaxaca where education is at the lowest percentile these type of banners are not out of the norm. So who knows.
If Zetas or other cartels have a message they want given attention to but are quickly removed by police, they will use means to assure it receives exposure, such as flooding areas with banners or sending a photo to publications and ordering them to publish it.
The real story here is the change in transparency, or lack thereof by the new administration. EPN has recommended a list of do’s and don’ts in reporting, really he prefers no narco reporting and some states have followed the advise.
Paz, Chivis
@Chivis:
ReplyDeleteActually I think it´s not the bigger message, it is THE MESSAGE.
I don´t remember if this was published before, but PGR has the order of limiting ALL narco information to the press, if someone from the press wants to know something, they need to ask permission to PGR headquarters in Mexico City.
@May 27, 2013 at 9:27 AM:
Thanks, I got a little bit delayed but I´m planning on posting it in 2 days max.
Thanks for your answer Chivis!
ReplyDeleteFirst, im from Europe. I follow borderlandbeat.com, casually, i have read blogdelnarco or tierradelnarco, but after The Guardian published the story of the girl who run blogdelnarco.com, i faund that this blog have articles from other websites, and maybe she is abusing from the dangerous work of journalists there in Mexico. So follow this debate, i find borderlandbeat.com.
Congratulations for the concept u have done on this page. I have a extreme respect for the work of a correspondent called "Tijuano", i read the first article of "The War for Tijuana", and im so surprised, because it was like seeing the first part of the movie "The Godfather".
Second, i read in this site, the hard hours of "El Mayo" when the military go to catch him, and the story of that mother who writes to Ramon Arellano a letter about his child. The article for "El Azul" was amazing to. I find here many other surprising articles.
I hope that borderlandbeat.com will continue on this quality, because what happen in Mexico is to interesting for me. "El Mayo" seems to me the most profesional and the mos Wise "chess player" in the narco jungle of Mexico.
Respect for all you guys of borderlandbeat.com.
Tijuano...
ReplyDeleteI was being polite, to us (TJ and Chivis) it is the only story, but to majority of readers they can't determine that so we "guide them". I know it bugs some people that live in Mexico or are "narcologists" that some of my reporting includes info they of course know, but I never assume readers know what we do, it is a constant inclusion of Narco War 101.
When is part 2 going up? Your biggest fan (me) can't wait. Paz, Chivis
The fundamental problem with Mexico is the political class. They've allowed this situation to evolve over the last three decades, and the people have had enough!! Report report report!!! The people are revolting!
ReplyDeleteMay 27, 2013 at 12:47 PM
ReplyDelete"just to give you an example in the state where I live recently a statistics from the state government said that 80% of the population don´t have internet access"
Brother,it is indeed scary,this is about keeping the Mexican people oblivious.Sometimes you forget just how important local Mexican reports are.We from outside take this information highway for granted.This is why blogs such as BB and others are essential.If what you say is true,we on the outside may even have more information than some Mexicans which is unbelievable.This PRI party has not changed in any way whatsoever.
As has been said by chivis etc,here we have an example of the way in which the Mexican government is dealing with certain aspects of this problem.This illustrates the direction this government wishes to take in regard to reporting cartel activity,namely,do not report it.These are obviously directives from central government disseminating out to the various arms the way it wishes clashes and cartel violence to be dealt with.This is another way to intimidate reporters and anyone else who wants to report any kind of cartel violence.What chivis and everyone else was indicating has sadly been shown to be true with this arrest of reporters.Another bad precedent for Mexico.How on earth did these people and their party(PRI)manage to gain control of Mexico again.This shows they haven't changed one bit,and look now,the reports of the money chiseling has begun by PRI.Isn't there one decent person amongst them?Money being taken that could help Mexican kids.The whole thing is so frustrating,but,sometimes you get attacked for voicing certain things.These people need sweeping out.
ReplyDeletehahaha, I get you! That´s why I try to explain in detail even is some people complain about it, Not everyone who reads BB knows what´s going on in Mexico, Those of us who live in Mexico don´t know much!!!
ReplyDeletePart 2 should be ready by tonight or tomorrow at max.
Saludos!
Chivas, the translation is incorrect. For the record I'm not the grammar police or trying to be a smart alleck, I just want our english readers to better understand the translation. Here is the break down......
ReplyDeleteYet the best of us remain, the most prepared, "los zetas" presently continue.
Juan Anónimo
La Yunta, México
May 27, 2013 at 5:51 PM
ReplyDelete"hahaha, I get you! That´s why I try to explain in detail even is some people complain about it"
The same thing is happening with you as the rest of of the contributors on here?There are many educated people who visit,please try not to be patronizing.Try not to take yourselves too seriously.
@May 27, 2013 at 6:20 PM:
ReplyDeleteNo patronizing here, I just like to give as much info as possible. If you are "educated", that´s GREAT, but not all of Us are as well educated, in fact, a lot of info comes from the readers of BB.
Let´s put it this way, I think it better to explain in detail so everyone understands, even if only a small percentage of readers are "un-educated".
Saludos.
BTW, I don't take myself too seriously, I'm just a translator! (And according to the grammar nazi´s, a bad one!)
ReplyDelete@ 6:20PM
ReplyDeleteThe giant chip on your shoulder must be painful!
Don't be silly, education has nothing to do with knowledge of the Narco War. I am proof of that. A decade a go when I landed in the midst of a hot zone I was stunned to realize I knew almost nothing.
Living it and learning first hand, up close and personal gives a different perspective, those of us that feel a need to do a little something have found this project of Buggs' to volunteer our time, we ignore interview requests, do not seek fame, we hide behind noms de plume and none of us nor our leader Buggs earn a dime, its a work of love.
All but a small percentage of our readers appreciate, learn and support our efforts, I would never patronize those readers, but if one is off base and ridiculous in accusation, I am not timid I will respond.
What Tijuano was explaining to me was a message about the readers that rarely but surely complain if the posts have too much detail, too much info, are "too long". Once Vato translated a long proceso post and someone wrote "why do you write these long ass posts, keep them simple".
Hopefully that genius has moved on.
Tijuano..I have to tell you I laughed so hard when YOU figured out the text on the banner I was like WTH...and you know what I mean. jajaja too funny, time for me to make an apt for an eye exam.
Juan: thank you very much, the syntax is better in your version but it essentially conveys the same message.
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Police responded to reports of men breaking into a home at Cimarron Country Club last night.
They didn't find anyone inside the house, but police did find 3,700 pounds of marijuana inside a closet and bathroom.
Police say the home didn't have any electricity or water service but evidence suggests someone was living inside.
breaking bad for another family
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HARLINGEN- A Valley Mother is waiting to find out how her son died in Mexico.
Ana Sanchez says her son, Polo Sanchez, went missing the day before Mother's day.
Sanchez says her greatest fear came true Sunday when her son's body was found in Matamoros. His youngest brother identified the body.
The family had the body cremated and brought back across the border. They are waiting on a death certificate to find out when and how he died.
Sanchez last saw her son May 11th, the day before Mother's Day.
These goofy reporters that keep sticking their noses in the drug war and cartels business are lucky they weren't all killed by corrupt cops. The people running this website are lucky they haven't been targeted yet but I have a feeling that time is coming very soon. Those guys can reach anybody anywhere, the corruption will eventually make an example out of somebody here I'd bet money on it.
ReplyDeleteNo doubt
DeleteIf they can hack facebook they can hack BB
@Chivis: Any news on "Lucy"??
ReplyDeleteUse TOR so your ip address remains hidden. Those indios sin educacion wont find shit
ReplyDeleteMay 27, 2013 at 6:57 PM
ReplyDelete"the secret weapon comes riding to the rescue"
Put your teeth in a glass jajajaja
May 27, 2013 at 8:47 PM
ReplyDelete"The people running this website are lucky they haven't been targeted yet but I have a feeling that time is coming very soon"
Are you people for real or what?Cartel estakas are going to start looking for posters and contributors on BB?You fuckin fools do you really think they give a fuck about what is being written on an English speaking US blog?Some cowardly fools here,yeah,cartel hitters coming to a town near you cause you called them names?Fuckin grow up,they got more important things to worry about,,like stayin alive.Yeah,they hacking as we speak,,runnnnn.
May 27, 2013 at 8:47 PM
ReplyDeleteYour calling people goofy after the load of bullshit you just wrote.I thought you would be leaving your home by now in case they got your ip address.
Ayyeeee help.......jajjaja
@4:13
ReplyDeleteyou sure don't know anything about us. English language does not mean from the US. Many of BB reporters either live in Mexico full time or work in Mexico. That's as far as I want to go with the conversation.