Posted of Borderland Beat Forum by "DD"
At the bottom of this post I have added a new video taken after the mother gave birth and her attempting to get help inside the hospital. No more hiding Mexico, the world is now watching. Paz, Chivis
Follow Up Post
An indigenous woman squats in pain after giving birth, her newborn still bound by the umbilical cord and lying on the ground. It’s a photograph that horrified Mexicans because of where it took place: the lawn outside a medical clinic where the woman had been denied help, and it struck a nerve in a country where inequity is still pervasive.
The government of the southern state of Oaxaca announced Wednesday that it has suspended the health center’s director, Dr. Adrian Cruz, while officials conduct state and federal investigations into the Oct. 2 incident.
The government of the southern state of Oaxaca announced Wednesday that it has suspended the health center’s director, Dr. Adrian Cruz, while officials conduct state and federal investigations into the Oct. 2 incident.
The mother Irma Lopez, 29, told The Associated Press that she and her husband were turned away from the health center by a nurse who said she was only eight months pregnant and “still not ready” to deliver.
The nurse told her to go outside and walk, and said a doctor could check her in the morning, Lopez said. But an hour and a half later, her water broke, and Lopez gave birth to a son, her third child, while grabbing the wall of a house next to the clinic.
“I didn’t want to deliver like this. It was so ugly and with so much pain,” she said, adding she was alone for the birth because her husband was trying to persuade the nurse to call for help.
A witness took the photo and gave it to a news reporter. It ran in several national newspapers, including the full front page of a tabloid, and was widely circulated on the Internet.
The case illustrated the shortcomings of maternal care in Mexico, where hundreds of women still die during or right after pregnancy. It also pointed to the persistent discrimination against Mexico’s indigenous people.
“The photo is giving visibility to a wider structural problem that occurs within indigenous communities: Women are not receiving proper care. They are not being offered quality health services, not even a humane treatment,” said Mayra Morales, Oaxaca’s representative for the national Network for Sexual and Reproductive Rights.
The federal Health Department said this week that it has sent staff to investigate what happened at the Rural Health Center of the village of San Felipe Jalapa de Diaz. The National Human Rights Commission also began an investigation after seeing news reports.
Lopez, who is of Mazatec ethnicity, said she and her husband walked an hour to the clinic from the family’s one-bedroom hut in the mountains of northern Oaxaca. It would have taken them longer to get to the nearest highway to catch a ride to a hospital. She said that from the births of her two previous children, she knew she didn’t have time for that.
Nearly one in five women in the state of Oaxaca gave birth in a place that is not a hospital or a clinic in 2011, according to Mexico’s census. Health officials have urged women to go to clinics to deliver their babies, but many women say the operating hours of the rural centers are limited and staffs small. A receptionist at the Rural Health Center told the AP that the doctor in charge was not available to comment about the case.
Although some have praised Mexico for improving its maternal health care, the mortality rate still stands at about 50 deaths per 100,000 births, according to the World Health Organization, similar to Libya, Barbados and Kazakhstan. The U.S. rate is 16 per 100,000.
Oaxaca is one of Mexico’s poorest, most rural states and many women have died of hemorrhaging or preeclampsia, a condition causing high blood pressure and possible kidney or liver failure. The Mexican states with the highest indigenous population have the highest rates of maternal deaths, by a wide margin.
Lopez was taken in by the clinic after giving birth and discharged the same day with prescriptions for medications and products that cost her about $30, she said. Health officials say she and her baby were in good health.
She said that poverty-stricken villagers are used to being forgotten by Mexico’s health care system and left to fend off for themselves.
Nearly one in five women in the state of Oaxaca gave birth in a place that is not a hospital or a clinic in 2011, according to Mexico’s census. Health officials have urged women to go to clinics to deliver their babies, but many women say the operating hours of the rural centers are limited and staffs small. A receptionist at the Rural Health Center told the AP that the doctor in charge was not available to comment about the case.
Although some have praised Mexico for improving its maternal health care, the mortality rate still stands at about 50 deaths per 100,000 births, according to the World Health Organization, similar to Libya, Barbados and Kazakhstan. The U.S. rate is 16 per 100,000.
Oaxaca is one of Mexico’s poorest, most rural states and many women have died of hemorrhaging or preeclampsia, a condition causing high blood pressure and possible kidney or liver failure. The Mexican states with the highest indigenous population have the highest rates of maternal deaths, by a wide margin.
Lopez was taken in by the clinic after giving birth and discharged the same day with prescriptions for medications and products that cost her about $30, she said. Health officials say she and her baby were in good health.
She said that poverty-stricken villagers are used to being forgotten by Mexico’s health care system and left to fend off for themselves.
“I am naming him Salvador,” said Lopez, a name that means “Savior” in English. “He really saved himself.”
no disrespect, but i think this is an off topic post, it's not secret that politicians, narcos and their families are the only ones that hace a good life, the rest of the people they strugle to provide to their families and EVERY day they are victims of lazy burocrats, my point is that this post is going to lead to a offensive coments from both side of the border which is not very helpful just a coment people
ReplyDelete3:11 your point about off topic,all the details get tied up together at a later point,it is all about corruption,where it is coming from,where it is taking us,etc...on your other point,don't be affraid of expressing yerself, that how buggs gets all that money...
DeleteMexico is full of shit full of shit heads and people that don't give a fuck about anybody else . From the poorest piece of shit to the richest piece of shit they don't care that's why what's happening is happening there . I'm sick of these people.
ReplyDeleteWhat's your deal? Kicking it with your confederate buddies spewing this crap over 5 24packs of coors isn't enough for you? but you have to get on here and spew some more?you need some therapy seriously, I think Obamacare covers that..
Delete3:19 way did you expect?after yours and other motherfucking countries corrupt our governments and leave nothing but the table scraps for the rabble to fight about,
Deleteit is high time bitch wake up,the us is ready for it, you have all kinds of weaponized gangs,and plain citizens killing
people for "no apparent reason" and people on high places bitching about the 2nd ammendment and all kinds of shit.
Can't believe someone , at the background saying , " yo mejor me retiro , porque alli van nuestros impuestos " .. To my understanding , Mexico has one of the cheapest clinics to deliver babies .. How would I believe that , with a population that big , a family could go broke for a tiny matter like this . No wonder that country of Mexico lives in misery
ReplyDeleteThat is thanks to our malinchista government,supported by American guns, money,and us trained military personnel,under Obama and all others before him...
DeleteMexican misery is due to having become friends with the USA,but that misery is about to be bestowed on the USA, thanks to its "friends"the Republican party crashers...the teabaggers,AKA the false prophets!
DeleteDEDICATED TO:EAGER BEAVER
DD thanks for the followup story. Its good to see mother and child are doing well.
ReplyDeleteSaludos
Mitcho
Thankfully, Madre y Salvador are doing okay. Mexico: Shame on you!
DeletePlease fix the title. You forgot " give." It might work in Spanish but doesn't in English. It sounds third world.
ReplyDelete5:53 What do you mean "third world",if you had to express yourself in a foreign language,you would be doing a lot much much worserliest,you high first second worlder. just my thought,I think...
DeleteNot impossible @3:21 especially if he is one of Chivis's kids!
ReplyDeleteTo: Mexico is full of shit full of shit heads and people: Look yourself in the mirror and tell me if your perfect! if you have done nothing bad in your life time? I'm not biblical but it seems your casting the first stone and are free from any wrongdoing in your life! Analyze your wording better before you start to degrade another culture or ethnic group. None of us are perfect? I'm a proud Mexican-American and despite what's going on here in the States, do you see me bitchen? That's for lil pussies, here pussy cat! Tienes un defecto! falta de huevos! acepta lo que eres Y tienes Cabron.............
ReplyDeleteHave you ever heard of the prom dumpster babies??
DeleteUS piece of wisdom"perfect people become so perfect they become perfect assholes",some people make it perfectly clear,it is true..
Delete@5:53PM
ReplyDeletenope.
Since the 70s birth or to birth became a intransitive verb.
Something like "to microwave", or "to parent"
And for the record it does not work in Spanish....just English.
100% Correct!
DeleteUnfortunately this is very common in Mexico. This is the main cause of Mexicans going to the illegal way to get what they need. Kidnapping and drug stuff…
ReplyDeleteOff topic: Nemesio Oseguera Ramos, aka. "El Mencho, maximum leader of CJNG, caught in Jalisco. Chapo should enjoy this capture by the govt. of Mexico. El Mencho is an ex- Chapo operator in Michoacan. Turned on Chapo and formed CJNG.
ReplyDeleteThere is but one lord,the brightest of the smartest of the prettiest angels should have learned that a while ago,and yet,new menchos will pop up!
Deleteher husband was not at the birth.
ReplyDelete... and the baby was born on the grass.
Hahahha! - this is a family story that is going to get told and re-told. :-)
OK ... just joking Chivis.
This was an important story to cover. good job.
grammar slammed chivis style jijiji 5:53
ReplyDeleteWhy are the fucking grammar police even allowed to post? If thats all u worry about u got major issues one of which is being anal! Who the fuck cares!! Im just glad this woman and her baby are ok.i dont care what country youre in this should not EVER happen.they should fire that whole hospital staff there.she would be a wealthy woman in the u.s with the right trial lawyer!!
ReplyDeleteLet the grammar police express theirselfes that how we know that cheese is on a rat trap,let's give and take...
ReplyDeletegrammar police ginirals.land of the losers
DeleteHow is this drug related? BB is a drug related blog. Rember the rules administrators.
ReplyDelete@10:43 p.m sound like u need to put the pipe down and quit smokin the shit as u dont have many cells left.it may not be drug related but it was a story that definitely needed to be told!!!
DeleteWhatever the administrators say or do,this is their joint and their prerrogative,other followers like the article too.why don't you start your own domain by your own design?
DeleteThen you'll have the ingrates plucking your eyes
wtf? 10:43 you are as bad as the grammar police. remember the rules? the rules are for you dumbass, admins make the rules and they decide when it is appropriate to post something that may not be related but important. what a miserable life you must live.
ReplyDeleteWhat's the big deal.....she had a baby.....a lot of ladies have babies without a doctor on her corner
ReplyDelete@3:59 a.m when u pass a bowling ball out the end of your dick then you can rightfully have something to say about this.god i hope you get sterilized so u cannot procreate though as that would be a tragedy!!
ReplyDeleteI am glad to see the little peanut made it, I say now.. as long as he is taken care of, loved and given guidance, he will do well. He's a tough little guy. I love it when the miracle of life shows how tough it really is to deny something that is supposed to be..
ReplyDelete9:53 AM I'm thinking that my comment shuddered you , but I don't understand your point . Well, I didn't understand your poor grammar , but you can dictate in spanish if you like , as a respond ..
ReplyDelete9:42 no podemos prenunsiar con faltas details ortografia porque los ginirales de la grametrica luego luego nos cretican...
ReplyDeletedijo el indino del indito
As an American, living in Mexico for the past year. ( also traveling Mexico for over 20 years). I can verify "some " of the treatment given to the Indigenous people. Darker skin, indigenous clothing and their language are always the subject of racist "Jokes", loud insulting comments and systematic oppression of their culture and rights.
ReplyDeleteThis is national self-hate. Look at the popular telenovelas on the TV. Just about all very light skinned Mexicans are portrayed as the "Good, decent and heroic" people. Where as the darker skinned actors are always portrayed as either the "Lecherous, selfish and bad" people or they are portrayed as the happy, simple country bumpkin. (Mexican media probably took their ques from the American media of racist stereotypes). Another example of self hate is their advertising. Light skinned blonds are a popular way to sell their beauty products. Young, handsome and "white" models are advertised in men's personal care products, are some of the examples of this national and disgraceful self-hate.
I'm really happy that this woman was able to figure out how to give birth to a child without a lot of assistance from experts. There are a lot of things that are possible in Mexico still, that aren't possible in other parts of the world because there isn't governance of every last moment of your life through a system designed by an expert who, simply does not care what the outcome is for you.
ReplyDeleteSome places in Mexico, the corrupt elite will totally deny access to public education to the outsiders. They will say, "You cannot come in here, to this evil place of relative power, where we are evil"
And they totally get away with it.