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Monday, November 4, 2013

Previously unreleased photo of Chapo-Reports say he has Cal driver license

Chivis Martínez for Borderland Beat

Last night the Spanish language  television station Univision ran a report about el Chapo.  Among the documents revealed were a previously unreleased photo of Chapo with Estela Peña and a California  driver license issued to him under one of his Max Aragon .  The license first issued in 1988 is still valid, and was used to register two Corvettes, later both vehicles were confiscated. 
 
Interesting is the fact he printed his name on the license, a common practice by illiterate persons in Mexico to sign documents, his education stopped at age 8, he is illiterate.
 
Rather humorous given the East LA address depicted on the license, I have posted the house at the address, but the address on the license would be behind the main house. 
 




Below is the Chapo foto I was sent and posted on BB, it is commonly used by media and agencies
 

80 comments:

  1. Below is the Chapo foto I was sent and posted on BB, it is commonly used by media and agencies. LOL a que chivis tan presumida I have seen that picture with out the watermarks from BB. It wasn't only sent to you Chivis. LOL.

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    1. Jaja I know bro have to you laugh at that shit, so many of them don't understand how it works in the business and it's even funny that they think that foto "was sent to them" jaja.

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    2. 2:40 7:13 THIS IS BEIN SENT TU YU:

      8=========================D
      make no mistake and hold on for dear life

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  2. he cant even write? haha domeass

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    1. i think you didnt know how to type the word dumbass

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    2. I see you can write too, you dumbass

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    3. It's funny that you can't even spell the most simplest words. You are an ignoramus.

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    4. Domeass?!!!! Wtf? Is it like the coneheads?

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    5. 9:39 yes,but in the ass!

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  3. Interesting is the fact he printed his name on the license, a common practice by illiterate persons in Mexico to sign documents, his education stopped at age 8, he is illiterate.

    LOL that illiterate person has a lot more money and power than you Chivis.

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    1. @2:46 p.m yeah but chivis can sleep at night without worrying about getting arrested or killed.all of chapos money cant buy that peace as it is priceless!!

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    2. What do you mean more money than chivis?..Are you a dumass?..shes just writing an article so people like you and myself can read..Go and criticize somewhere else please.
      -NAJ

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    3. Chivis can't sleep at night...
      because of me.
      Me...neither...
      Because of her...
      Love u chivis! Get well soon!

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  4. Chapo Guzman was living in Southern California bak in the 80's the government knows idk why they act like they DNt know this a lot of powerful drug traffickers are living in USA listen to narco corridos they say it without a doubt all they say it's true mayo zambada jr el "mayito gordo" was living in LA with family there he use to go to el rodeo pico Rivera listen to the narco corridos geeessshhh this is not NEW NeWS!!!!

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    1. Funny you say that. I know a few people that have stories of seeing Mayito Gordo in so. cal. But is Mayito even wanted on any charges. Having a father who is a narco isn't really a crime.

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  5. heres a better view of the pic
    http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s96/JESSCLOKES/8631E9AA-C7F8-48CD-9CEF-54AFD998115C-249-0000001B3A04E674_zps935d4d72.jpg

    chivis the one named chato is the one Doing the damage for caro q vs chapo

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  6. TODOS SABEN QUEL SAPO GUZMAN PONE A LA COMPETENCIA CON EL GOB DE U.S.A Y POR ESO LO DEJAN TRABAJAR AL CHAPUTO,,, ES UN SUPER INFORMANTE

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  7. There's no 40th st in East LA.

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  8. This guy been seen in L.A. and Oakland in the past few years..the CIA is the one that gives him a free pass! MONEY TALKS!

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    1. Agreed. CIA needs him and others to keep the flow of drogas to the country.

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  9. It's only a matter of time because his so-called friends will eventually flip him for greater profit.

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  10. Dude is illiterate and got more money than most americans que cabron.true hustler. Aribba mexicali y valle imperial

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    1. Es todo! Arriva Chicali! Desde El Centro!

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  11. its a report i just heard right know pgr and military and caf are looking into rafaels mistress and its intresting cause rafael had a child with him and h turned his back on her no money and shes from mazatlan last name rodriguez first name blanca its weird cause like i said chapo ad rafael some type of respect for each other and rafa brought peace to tijuana norte chapo wants profits not war and second it better not to capture chapo or kill him cause cds will be run by the younger generation of chapo sons and one nephew who dont want peace they want war an it will be a real bloodshed in tijuana especially tijuana cartel being fully restructed

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    1. Dude your residente de Tijuana just flip floping name as always talking all high and mighty about Caf get it through your head that Caf is dead man I still dont here nothing going down in tijuana only noise I here are other gangs making noise in Tj and Tj doesn't do nothing bout it get over it man Caf is dead just because you have a couple old timers still around doesn't mean they have power remember power is demonstrated not talked about check your history in the early 90s they had some power but no longer so stop sweating Caf they gone .

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  12. Somebody loss 250 bricks yesterday could this be what the feuds all about

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    1. Well who ever loss got be shitting as many bricks as he or she lost cause his or her life got be at risk

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    1. No 48th st. In East Los either.

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    2. Its not East L.A. area, its actually South Central L.A.

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    3. Ass wipes the people mean he lived EAST OF LOS ANGELES THE CITY. Dam some of you are dum asses lol!

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  14. its in South Central off of San Pedro. which is a hop skip and a jump away from the Local DEA office on Temple Ave. It's ok Chivis you're not from the area so you might have mistaken it for East LA.

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  15. For 8th grade education is probably richer than Bill Gates and Warren Buffet
    I work to pay bills, but I can sleep at night.

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    1. He can sleep at night too! He has cia drones watching over him!

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  16. Thank you 3:02! Much better.. about Chato that is what people are saying.

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    1. Hey what's this about chato? What's going on?

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  17. jajaja well yes, he has more power than me, but I have freedom.

    Actually I was not condemning him for his illiteracy, it is fascinating how smart he is as a businessman, yet doesn't know how to read. , I often imagine what he could have been with an education, and opportunity.

    This is what happens when Mexico thinks certain children do not deserve an education, they become their nightmare.

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  18. I'm gonna go burn that house down and leave La Bandera de El Colores!

    Puro Arete Activo Putos!...

    Muerte al CHAPUTO y Al MIADO!

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    1. Calmate pinche tijuanero corriente, Tj no sirve para nada. Puros michoacanos, chilangos y jalisquillos que no la hicieron en su rancho se van para alla. No se diga todos los deportados huevones que caen ahi diario.

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  19. hey chivis heres something you might you want to look into . a band was caught with 250 kilos of cocaine and it make me wonder they get involved after so many singers and bands have been killed . hi chivis tyrone

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  20. @2:40 well yes it was sir. It was sent to me via email. I posted it and every major media outlet gave us credit including Univision, who made a video on it see below. It is the borderland beat photo and that is how it is republished, see proceso below. you must not read much, maybe just blogs? anyway I was sent the foto and wrote a post about it see here http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2013/03/details-about-new-chapo-photo.html

    and everyone took it from there.

    google it in Spanish...


    http://noticias.univision.com/narcotrafico/noticias/article/2013-03-19/aparece-nueva-imagen-de-el-chapo-guzman#axzz2ji2UxGc1

    http://www.diariocambio.com.mx/2013/nacional/item/5677-foto-difunden-supuesta-imagen-inédita-del-chapo-guzmán

    http://www.proceso.com.mx/?p=340785

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  21. ok guys...it comes up for me! there is 47th 48th and 49th...street on google comps. maybe not e LA you are correct I don't know about that, I thought it may be E. don't know...

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  22. Damn my comment can't even get posted. Weak.

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  23. you tell him chivis

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  24. try again only one wasn't posted but it was a message sent to me...


    HEY Tyrone...where have you been?

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  25. an where was I?????? i didnt know that was ur pic of chapo it is everywhere. how i mised that i don't know but thats cool

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  26. at 7:11 I believe you. But that is what comps say. I did go to another sources and the zip code is 90011...

    so is that south central? it shows 82% pop Mexican and not very much black
    tell us what and where exactly it is. that would help..

    here is the zip code matrix
    http://www.movoto.com/neighborhood/ca/los-angeles/90011.htm

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    1. Yes its south central. And yes mostly mexican. The blacks started moving south and west during the early late 80' early 90's..that area is controlled by mexican gangs BMS13, Playboys,Florence13, and eastside13,..the black gangs are east coast crip and avalon crips. But mexicans dominate. I grew up and still live in the area. Very hood! Lots of gangs and lots of paisas too..there are many seafood places around there that alot of paisas frequent and have bandas and groupos.norteños bumpin corridos everyday!

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    2. Yes it is South Central,and yes it probably is 82% Mexican.Mexicanos have took over south central for a while now,blacks have been moving west towards the ocean.but they can only go so far so they're moving out to the IE(more specifically Moreno Valley and Rialto..etc.)

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    3. Agree with 10:44

      That area is controlled by the Florencia 13 gang and La EME. Florencia 13 gang drove all the blacks out of that area and took over the whole town on orders from the MM

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  27. 90011 zip is downtown LA or Vernon depending on exact location. All that area is under Sinaloa.

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    1. what sinaloa aint here wtf I live dtla area east los

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    2. Wtf sinaloa aint controlling shit here I stay by alameda swapmeet

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  28. U dnt have to be able to read to be a drugdealer, just learn simple math and after u make da mny surround urself with people that can

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  29. You welcome for informing you'll about the doc on chapo on univision

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  30. Who were the musicians that got caught with 250 kilos of cocaine?????

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  31. en la zona norte was executed people part of the execution of rafael murder in the coward way when you kill someone and are afraid to take resonsibility an if caf has no power how they found out how these people are part of the answer and itlead to some one with th last name rodriguez

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  32. Es mejor ser un perro vivo... que un leon muerto... se se dejen engañar por los corridos. Esa vida no es de jente humilde como dicen. Un hombre humilde no presume sus riquesas sino las esconde.. el toro

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    1. Y cuando lo miras enseniando sus ricesas! Yo solo miro a dos gobiernos coruptos enseniando las ricesas que se roban!!!!

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  33. Wero tijuanero como me da hueva leer tus comentarios...ningun inche punto o coma. Eres el tijuanero comun y corriente que vale pura ver...atte el texitas

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  34. the adress is in the east side of south central now called south los angeles there is more latinos than blacks now but at that time chapo wss living there there would had been more blacks it is 48th st. the gangs around there are the play boys (hispanic) and the avalon gangster crips (black) the area is bad and dangerous too many gangs still nothing compare to the violence and gang wars from the 80s at the time chapo was there. I lived all my life in south cemtral I am 33 I am trying to remember if I saw him around lol.

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  35. Muy cierto toro !!!!

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  36. I was watching Sunday night how Univision was giving propaganda to El Chapo.On this program called Aqui y ahora geeeze they been repeating the same thing again and again about Midget Guzman this about that pure blah blah blah.The only good stuff about Aqui y Ahora Midget Guzman edition was when that lady that wrote the book Los Señores de Narco well she was talking mad stuff about el Midget Guzman maaaaaan it was halarious!I think her name is Anabel but not sure Ikeeees!

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  37. That address is for SOUTH CENTRAL LA

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  38. In the picture with camouflage el Sapo looks to be cross eyed. Is he in real?

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  39. The pic of don chapo in military. .is that him...for being 5'6...the guy next to him must he what 5'4, 5'5...

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  40. 2013 ▪ 11 ▪ 05

    Move on people . . . does it matter whether if it's South L.A. or not? It's irrelevant since it's been 25 yrs. since he was at this address.

    More importantly:

    My pre-analysis of his printed handwriting (8th grade level?) is a person who is intelligent & tend to lean towards «black & white» decisions - no grey area here. The light spacing between the letters also indicate his pragmatism towards business decision and somewhat patient. The three letters "MAX" is more profound/bolder than the last name which indicates a hierachy and type A personality. The last name "Aragon" is a bit below the signature line which indicates concealment of character. I would be very curious to what other handwriting analysis enthusiasts have as well . . .

    Thank you Madame Chivis - this is very fascinating!

    /\__/\
    (=';'=)
    (")_(")

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  41. i think he signed his name that way to distract or not be traced its common sense when they investagate u they check for any previous signatures to make a match

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  42. These photos are fake.

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    1. I agree. I received my califas driver license in the 80s and it looked nothing like that. Wtf? Also that picture on the so called drivers licence looks nothing like pictures we have seen here on bb of a young chapo. G

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  43. A little off topic but, what does printing your name and not signing your name using cursive have to to with being illiterate?

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  44. La CIA lo dejo entrar en ese tiempo nesesitaban mucha coca para envenenar a los negros con crack y el senor era el effectivo

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  45. Wtf. I lived on 53rd st avalon and sanpedro. Infron of the swapmeet. All my life 1985 until they nock our block down and built a highschool. That block was always hot lots of drugs murders gta's gang fights drivies all the action was ther. Good old days. Now i have my owen fam. House and and everything people said i would never amount to. LoL im rich bitch :)

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  46. I lived on 53rd st avalon and sanpedro. Right in front of the swapmeet. from 1985 to they nocked my block down to built a hschool. Thoes wher the good old days lots of shit when down.in That block damn i missed my child years lots of fights and lots of partys and crazy shit. Now i have abetter lifewith my fam.

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  47. Back then el Sapo was washing car at the car wash on Florence and Huntington

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  48. jaja 7:13am the joke is on you 'BRO'
    every media source mainstream and blogs-though bdn questioned at first if it was a real photo- all give credit to bb and most specifically chivis. acting so tough computer narco knowing "the business". do you even realize how pathetic you are? My guess you are the same fool that questioned the photo , the first comment, after chivis put your ass straight this is the best comeback you can come up with? all I know you sure read the post, I mean since you know the business so well why are you here?

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  49. El Chapo, you may have Jesus on your back, but so is Allah.

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  50. I wonder if went to go see chalino sing at the parral or the farallon

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