Police stood by as a man and woman is kidnapped, one can hear people excitedly
screaming, multiple times, “Are they kidnapping?” “Are they kidnapping?”
This occurred yesterday in broad daylight in the epicenter
of Mexico, Mexico City, in front of the ultra-busy Oceania subway.
It is described as an Express Kidnapping, however, it does not
indicate what led to that conclusion.
Express kidnappings are when a victim is taken and a ransom is demanded
of his family.
Once the random is paid
the victim is usually allowed to go free.
However I don’t see how it was determined that this was an fact an
Express Kidnapping opposed to any other type of kidnapping.
An anonymous YouTube user posted this video yesterday. A group of men in a white pickup are seen
forcing a man into the truck bed, they were armed with weapons. A pair of auxiliary police idly stands by and
watches the crime even after people approached them.
On the video it can be heard people saying "and the police? why are they not doing nothing?" also stating the license plates numbers, however most
likely the vehicle is stolen.
The videographer stated he attempted to report it to the Federal Police, was kept waiting an hour and they did not take his information.
The sharp eye of a BB reader notices a woman also being kidnapped. You will see the videographer quickly panning to the left where the white car is, a woman is being held by a choke hold and dragged to the truck. (see white arrow below)
I thought there were two being kidnapped near the truck, but it is difficult to distinguish, bottom line 2-3 people kidnapped.
On the far left footage you can there is a man by the white automobile that looks as though he also may be a police.
He is wearing what appears to be a uniform with an emblem patch on the right sleeve, and a hat having an orange red top, much like the police standing in front of the wall.
Read Magician's post link here
Sickening. I cannot imagine such a life of helplessnes.
ReplyDeleteCanadian girl
I am in Canada as well... N I would never go to mexico for any reason... I don't understand why Canadians are so excited to go there...smh
DeleteThats why cannot go to Mx. i do not have the $$$$$ to pay those guys.
ReplyDeletereal sad
ReplyDeleteThats why u must arm yr self and smoke foos that think their on something!
Delete"The videographer stated he attempted to report it to the Federal Police, was kept waiting an hour and they did not take his information."
ReplyDeleteof course. the federales have the much more important work to do - to locate the person who posted this annoying YouTube video :-)
I would think that it would be easy enough to figure out that an express kidnapping is to just select someone at random off the street. Who is the idiot?
ReplyDelete11:00
ReplyDeleteYou must be new to the workings of Mexico. Nope, not always about money.
in Mexico people are kidnapped off the streets or even from homes, and forced into servitude of some type sex trade , drug trafficking, extortion etc . Also revenge kidnapping, big money kidnapping.
Usually express is a small amount or preferably no ransom but holding the victim for their ATM card to drain the account. It depends. But no it is not always about money.
A good example is the 72 Migrants who in august 2010, kidnapped for recruitment, when they refused they were slaughtered.
Since you call us idiots, I feel calling you ignorant is appropriate. It is one thing to want to learn, and asking for clarification, but it is plain stupid to challenge someone when knowing so little.
Those 2 cops should be identified and disappeared.
ReplyDeleteRite on chivis =»
ReplyDeleteWhat is the use of democracy when the common citizens have no rights or the rights are trampled upon. (Lotta idiots will comment adversly without deducing what I have commented)...Sorry state of affairs with a lot of "So called Democracies".
ReplyDelete11:44 democracy has evolved into a narco-democracy,dragging down the IQ of Mexico and the US,armed forces and police included.
Delete"Since you call us idiots, I feel calling you ignorant is appropriate. It is one thing to want to learn, and asking for clarification, but it is plain stupid to challenge someone when knowing so little. "
ReplyDeleteChivis - you have a thick skin and you put up with a lot of bigotry in the readers comments on BB. But don't get discouraged. your brave fight is worth the effort.
BTW, this short video is one of the best "convictions" of the corrupt Mexican police system that I have seen in a long time. P, CA
I'm not an expert on kidnapping, but that did NOT look like an express kidnapping. It looked very targeted for what ever reason. Why the cops did nothing is incredibly upsetting. The police are not respected in Mexico. They could have intervened fired shots in the air or something. Hopefully with this video, they will find the criminals. Unbelievably scary to see how fast and how easily you could be taken in Mexico with no authorities to assist.
ReplyDelete:( Truly sad.
ReplyDeleteWhile those that are suppose to protect the citizens..stand by..and do nothing.
Truly horrible
The peace in Mexico all over is gone..humanity needs to reach down and help one another..before it all goes to hell.
Dex
"chivified" punched, slammed and kicked to the side jijiji
ReplyDelete"They could have intervened fired shots in the air or something. "
ReplyDeleteyou don't want police in Mexico firing shots. someone could get hurt or something. complete inaction - saves valuable ammunition. HAHAHA!!!
Guys I don't think that is a express kidnapping at all... looks like the work of "judiciales" (Judicial Police) probably picking up those guys at the orders of some government authority or at the orders of some narcos. Judiciales dress in civil clothes, use those types of trucks and cars, and that is totally their MO.
ReplyDeleteLol no mames chivis this are the Mexican judiciary police making an arrest.... This policia judicial is the most corrupt and abusive branch of law enforcement. If you Google estado de México oceania clarifies not a kidnap situation but a lawful arrest you will find the facts.
DeleteAlgo .......lol
Deletetourists, go to Mexico !
ReplyDeleteC passan de vergota de cavallo
DeleteEsos policias son una verdadera verguenza. Pero para demandar mordidas si se portan bien chingones!!! BOLA DE OJETONES!!! No tienen guevos!!!! Si no pueden con el paquete de protejer a la ciudadania, dejen el oficio. BOLA DE CULOS!!!
ReplyDeleteMuy bien dicho!
DeleteThank you for calling the kidnapping in progress hotline. Do not hang up as calls are answered in the order that they enter the queue. For kinapping with the police watching, press one. For kidnapping BY the police, press two........we are currently experiencing a high volume of calls, please continue to hold, static, buzz, click. [dialtone] : (
ReplyDeleteLooks more like a plain clothes police operation I'm sure if it was a kidnapping those cops would have at least shot a couple times I'm sure they're bored all day
ReplyDeleteMeh. Tampico Transitos would have asked for a mordida first.
ReplyDeleteif you guys look at it carefully they take a woman too it looks like she was trying to help the guy maybe her husband but then they drag her and thtow her in the bed of the truck with the guy. Also I think the guy himself was yelling they are kidnapping me.
ReplyDeleteDoes Mexico still have Judiciales?
ReplyDeletethose cops should lose a couple sick days ..for letting that guy get kidnapped like that in broad daylight .
ReplyDeleteThis why in america everybody can have guns.not just criminals.Mexican government knows if everybody had guns this shit wouldn't be tolerated. If that was my brother or son or dad.I might not be able to find the criminals but I no where the cops are.that's why the police are allways getting murdered
ReplyDeleteThose might have been cops
ReplyDeleteTo be fair, if the cops had intervened, they would probably turn up dead in a ditch a week later. Perhaps they loved their family, enjoyed coming home to their kids, and wanted to live to see another day. Im not saying its the right choice. But I don't know what I would do in their shoes. Mexico is a lawless place. Its not like apprehending a criminal in the US where it usually ends at arrest. Retribution killings could have an effect on your wife, your mom, who knows....all because you arrested some connected guy, or interfered with an important operation
ReplyDeleteVery well said
DeleteYou know.. they weren't drafted into that line of work.. and they're not volunteers... Your comment has no grounds bro
DeleteSaludos para los De Santiago Papasquiaro
El Gastonsito
Especially when your outnumbered by the group doing the so call kidnapping and them having more fire power do you really want to intervene and end up getting kidnapped yourselves its sad mexico's a sad place to live right now you don't know what the right decision is to make right or wrong you can get killed.
DeleteGood point from another prospective.
DeleteBut why take the job then.
DeleteThe policemen watching and doing nothing. They should have been executed on the spot.
ReplyDeleteIts obvious the cops were protecting the kidnappers, not the citizens. They were there to make sure no one got in the way of the criminals. I am in favor of gun control, but in Mexico's case, citizens need to bear arms and kill kidnappers on the spot.
ReplyDeleteTuvieron mas huevos los que tomaron el video y los datos que el pinche par de policias panochudos. Lastima de hombres que pretender ser esos panochudos.
ReplyDeleteBones...the cops did not even call in forces, all who are in close proximity, not to mention a whole bunch more at the very station. If one is afraid of what would happen then they have no business pretending to defend the security of citizenry.
ReplyDeletemakes no sense and no excuses, since the majority of kidnapping are conducted by police for gangs and cartels, my guess is the reason is much deeper than apathy..
3:23
ReplyDeletegood eye. but I thought the person was not near the white truck, she was closer to the car. anyway I will post it and see what people think. I thought there may be 3 taken. 2 by the truck and one from far left and dragged to the truck.
there are two directions the screaming "kidnapping" I thought it was to the police
Yes they take a woman and the guy that they where trying to summit his shirt even came off he actually yelled a few times they are kidnapping me but since they where choking him and when they hit him it was loud. But hopefully they are ok and just wanted money one last thing if you guys noticed almost at the end one of the guys throws what i think are keys to another tgen he runs to pick up them i was thinking maybe they took the guys car???
Delete3:59 pm, let me answer that for you ...you would wet your pants . thete would be a puddle next to your shoes .
ReplyDeletehttp://www.eluniversal.com.mx/ciudad-metropoli/2013/plagio-metro-oceania-secuestro-971158.html
ReplyDelete"Guys I don't think that is a express kidnapping at all... looks like the work of "judiciales"
ReplyDeleteyes, could have been judiciales and the arrest might have been coordinated with the street cops. it's possible. you just don't know. but it could also be corrupt judiciales dragging some people away for the narco's - it's just as possible.
this is why in the USA plain-clothes cops usually call uniformed officers to assist in an actual arrest - it shows the authority behind the arrest. in addition, plain-clothes police in the USA always have badges and ID cards available to confirm who they really are. if Mexico keeps this kind of crap going - some of their plain clothes police are going to get shot. and you can't blame ordinary people for doing it. what do they have to lose?
You'll love this PGR is saying the video is actually an arrest by them.....right.
ReplyDeleteand Tijuano...you believe this?
ReplyDeleteThis morning when I saw this story for some reason it didn't feel like a kidnapping and I still don't think it was. Chivis comment above stating it was an arrest was the first thing that came to mind. Maybe it's because it didn't seem violent enough?
ReplyDelete"So kidnapping express is a form of kidnapping that kidnap,then ask the family for a ransom?!?!...I "
ReplyDeleteNo, express kidnapping don't ask the victims family for ransom. They either quickly take you to an ATM or something similar and then release you. Hence, "express", it's quick.
-Cara de rata
Not really, just thought you might want to check the link, they don´t seem like Federal Agents to me, 10 years ago I might have believed them, but now? Could be, but I got my doubts.
ReplyDeleteHow do I post these articles on FB?? If thats ok with BB ??
ReplyDeleteMexico is such a sewer, why we don't enforce our immigration laws and secure our border is beyond me....thanks to Bush, Obama etc....
ReplyDeleteYou can stop the violence in Mexico . if Americans stop using drugs. and fat ass politicians stop making money from gun and drug sales..
DeleteI agree with 3:55 , in Mexico only criminals have firepower. The people are powerless
ReplyDeleteAccording to Mexican Authorities:
ReplyDeleteMéxico, 6 Dic (Notimex).-El procurador capitalino Rodolfo Ríos Garza informó que el video captado en las inmediaciones del Metro Oceanía no corresponde a un secuestro, sino que se trató de una detención realizada por elementos de la Policía Federal Ministerial de la Procuraduría General de la República (PGR).
En conferencia de prensa precisó que por los hechos, en primera instancia, se inició una indagatoria para deslindar responsabilidades, toda vez que en el video se observa un policía preventivo quien no intervine.
“Ordené que se iniciara una averiguación previa en la fiscalía antisecuestros y puedo comentar que es un tema en el que intervino la Policía Federal Ministerial, derivado de un mandamiento ministerial y las dos personas detenidas fueron puestas a disposición de la PGR por un delito contra la salud”, aseveró.
En el mismo tenor se expresó el titular de la Secretaría de Seguridad Pública del Distrito Federal (SSPDF), Jesús Rodríguez Almeida, quien explicó que las dos personas que aparecen en el video que se difundió a través de las redes sociales contaban con una orden de aprehensión que cumplimentaron agentes de la PGR.
En entrevista detalló que los hombres que sometieron a las dos personas se identificaron como elementos de la Policía Federal Ministerial y que el policía que aparece en el video y que no interviene estaba adscrito a la vigilancia del aeropuerto internacional de la ciudad de México.
En este sentido aseveró que no se trató de una privación ilegal de la libertad, sino del cumplimiento de un mandamiento al parecer judicial, aunque el tema se debe de verificar con la PGR.
Remember if you don't owe anything you have nothing to fear the ppl being kidnapped were somewhat related to organized crime be it from a family member, directly, etc... it was probably Z thou they control that section in MX city.
ReplyDeleteAs for the cops why are ppl surprised?
In Mexico the presumption of innocence does not exist for the people.
DeletePRESUMED GUILTY,is a documental that will show how the Mexican police works.
The presumption of innocence only applies in Mexico,to the politicians robbing the company blind,to their murders,(Francisco Ruiz massieu,Luis Donaldo Colossio),their real murderers,known to be the Salinas de gortari rat brodas,errybody knows they are guilty,before the law they are still presumed innocent,like Jorge Hank rohn,Bert moreira...
I actually love Mexico, I'm going to spend a month in san Luis potosi, and fresnillo in February :)
ReplyDeleteIf you have nothing to do with them, they don't mess with you, I'm Mexican American, and just because the crime there is out of control, it doesn't stop me from visiting my family.
It looks fake. Normally there's a guy with an assault rifle that would be there standing guard in case someone tried to intervene.
ReplyDeleteso whats up dont these citizens have guns to shoot at these criminals
ReplyDeleteOh I bet half of them are Federal Agents but corrupt ones.. The fat ones are probably the narcos mixed in.. I will half believe them of an arrest once they release the names and mug photos .. until then its a plain and simple SECUESTRO...
ReplyDeleteI would walk around decorated like a suicide bomber in the middle east and tell them motherfuckers u gonna pull the pin and light all they asses up if they dont let u go lol! The narcos are just pathetic losers!!!
ReplyDeleteIf this can happen in broad daylight on a busy street with many witnesses and police present (but not responding) God help the citizens of Mexico
ReplyDeleteAnd video is gone. Would be good if you save videos on this site, not just through youtube.
ReplyDeleteRight now in Chihuahua there is a reporter, I believe from the El Heraldo Newspaper, that is in front of the government office building in El Centro. He is on a hunger strike. Has been there for days now. I saw banners up all over to denounce Duarte, and his new regulation that the papers are to not publish certain crimes in the papers. The government headed by Governor Duarte wants to hide the vast amounts of crime from the people. The people need to know what is going on. This is why the death's that Mexico has attributed up to now are so far understated, or even estimated figures. The figures are ridiculous. Thousands upon thousands of people missing. Over 100,000 I heard from Central and South America. There families have not heard from them again. With the record keeping here, I cannot even imagine how many people are not even statistics after they are killed. When you see a bar with 14 people shot up, and a few hours later there is a piece of cardboard on the door that says closed in Black Magic Marker. You wonder how they do the forensics so fast. They just pick them up, pile them into the back of a van and hose out the blood of the crime scene. Do I believe the government would cover for these police to avoid embarrassment. I do not have any apprehension at saying no. They have no morals, nor do they care about their people. If you can legally hide crime, to hide this incident, or cover it up is just everyday business here. If they were cops? No flashing badges, not having official uniforms or official trucks is wrong. I guess anyone could say they were a cop, and kidnap anyone while the police watched. They should have had at least had two federal officers in uniform to avoid an incident, or the agents even being shot. There is no reason to not have a uniformed officer there.
ReplyDeleteTijuano...I was messing with you, my question was not serious.
ReplyDeletePeople:
Ask any person living in Mexico for any length of time what goes down. This looks like a kidnapping. If it was an operative PGR would have:
had weapons drawn
had PGR vehicles close by to dispatch immediately to the scene so people would know this was the government
the "under-cover" PGR would have had bullet proof vests at least in their vehicle clearly labeled P G R and wear them in the arrest
hand cuffs
told the videographer it was an arrest when he went to report the incident
just use common sense, these kidnappings happen in Mexico and caught on videotape.
I know of no incident PGR dragged and threw captives in the back of a pick-up truck.
They had no mugshots of the "arrested" people nor specific charges.
WHY WOULD GOV LIE?
Let me count the ways...
BUT the most evident is that Mexico City has been deemed safe in recent years, it is the Hub of Mexico and flooded with tourism all year round.
In September there was a video tape of a kidnapping in broad daylight in Mexico city http://www.carscoops.com/2013/09/video-shows-man-being-kidnapped-from.html
this included fake or real cops and is "under investigation"
again in October another video of daylight kidnapping
and now in December again on video
at some point it becomes a huge problem for the government as people become fearful to travel to DF or citizens become outraged.
Cops in Mexico are the greatest facilitators of kidnappings.
This looks like any other kidnapping I have seen on video in Mexico. There are many on YT. One from Chih you can see cars pull up, get out, go into a oxxo (like a 7-11 store all over Mexico)and drag a man out. and the vehicles
in another cops enter a hotel drag men out, the men were found tortured and dead a couple days later http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2012/06/mexican-police-caught-kidnapping.html
others
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/10/ex-chihuahua-ag-seeks-help-on.html
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/09/sinaloa-captive-video-reveals.html
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2013/06/bar-heaven-mass-kidnapping-witness.html
etc etc etc
These are some of my thoughts. Those who are corrupt and perpetrate crimes while serving society are all over Mexico. They want the masses to believe in their word. Not to ask questions. But since the wide use of the cell phone that changed everything.
Paz,
Chivis
You mean "Kidnapped as Corrupt Police Stand By..."
ReplyDelete"This looks like a kidnapping"
ReplyDeleteMere "seeming" is not evidence.
"If it was an operative PGR would have..."
Perhaps, but just like you advice "Ask any person living in Mexico for any length of time what goes down" and sometimes stuff like this does go down exactly like it did considering Mexico being Mexico the PGR sometimes doesn't follow it's own protocol (I was born in Mexico City and asked family members if stuff like this happens).
Chivis, I'm a huge fan of yours and I lean towards this being an actual, not undercover PGR operation, but we don't have all the facts yet to draw a proper conclusion.
Your assuming they were cops. Criminals dressed as cops is more like it.
ReplyDeleteThe cops with the Russian police hats/from Poland,were security guards,prolly knew what was going on.
DeleteThe abductors showing how it works/gets done,as police officers during the day, needed to esplain to the witnesses that no pasa nada and that it was official business.
"This why in america everybody can have guns.not just criminals.Mexican government knows if everybody had guns this shit wouldn't be tolerated"
ReplyDeleteThen why do Americans tolerate gang violence? All the violence that happened in the 70's, and especially in the late 80's and early 90's in and around Los Angeles and not a single great "patriot" came out with his gun to confront it and try to stop it. Gun advocates talk a good game but when it comes to actually doing something they do nothing.
What idiot writer name this and express kidnap , do they know why they were kidnap in the first place ? I'm just Jk lol chivis ......we love you .
ReplyDelete1:08 hose,the person that took the video, made an express decision and caused a lot of mayhem,exposing a clear deficiency in the process,leaving the witnesses with a bad impression was expressly wrong and unprofessional,hose the whose's you are full o'holes...
DeleteI think I forgot the Jimenez Chih video. from 2012. at this oxxo (popular place for kidnappings) several people were kidnapped
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsdsVSa843U
Jose...behave yourself :)
I agree, but that is what the video description was on YT,
but I did not agree, you can see that in the article I wrote and posted above.
I would suggest you look at the video links I posted in the comment above....same deal and who knows why.
Chivis said ... "same deal and who knows why".
ReplyDeleteyes - that is the problem. Let us suppose the PGR is telling the truth on this one. If the apprehension of a serious criminal appears to be identical to a quick kidnapping - then the people on the streets will know no difference. And justice will NOT be served. Let this message sink in - in Mexico City. Justice is not achieved if the word is given in secret to pick up a narco, men throw him in the back of a truck. Justice can ONLY be done when it is clear to the average persons on the street who is making the arrest, and that the law is being upheld completely. Otherwise you sow the seeds of social chaos and disunity.
I have seen it on other countries. Same sort of thing. The Gov't appoints "secret squads" because the trouble makers are out of control. The early arrests are legitimiate because they round up bad players. But then soon the hit squad become errand boys - eliminating political rivals. You have NO justice if it is not clear to people in the streets that the law is being enforced fairly and impartially.
P, CA
Chivis, I'm curious if you're aware the PGR has announced the identities of the detainees in the video, and says they're part of a gang of kidnappers.
ReplyDeleteOne of the gang, José Andrés López Guadiano was one of Baja's most wanted, and was captured at a hotel December 1st, and the PGR says these two are part of the same gang, and they have been identified as Caín García Baltazar, Juan Carlos Arredondo Franco y Francisco Javier Servín Rodríguez.
They say they were led to the arrestees by an accomplice, José Ulises Padilla Sandoval.
I know they could be lying, but that's an awful lot of info just to make Mexico City appear safe. It is odd they don't mention the involvement of the woman, who can be seen in the video.
http://www.milenio.com/policia/Supuesto-plagio-detencion-PGJDF-metro-oceania-mexico-secuestro-video_0_203379974.html
Yes this was also posted on forum.
ReplyDeleteYou can link to Magician's post with the link at the very bottom of the post. It is a completely different post, but the video is disabled. I had the video downloaded so I was abled to replace the YT one with that. You can op to full screen it.
6:26PM
ReplyDeleteyup..i saw reports but they did not have names just the names of the Baja guy. I laughed because there was no mention of the female. Oh course they would have to come up with names. and it took 2 days, next the mugs. probably day 3. Daylight kidnappings in DF are a huge problem. with EPN except the big coverup. Could it be? sure, but doubtful, nothing adds up, either they are horribly sloppy or lying...pick your poison.
a reporter friend in DF says to look at the video slowly, at the pickup one of the men in uniform points out the female to the aggressor, he leaves the one guy and takes off after the female. Not something done in an operation.
so with these big time kidnappers, not one PGR produced a weapon to have them comply. I guess it is too late for me to believe it. had they come out with it the first day...maybe, but with the complete story, mugs, etc
I was in Patzcuaro (Michoacan) and Mexico City for a month over October/November this year. Perfectly safe experience (for me). I urge tourists to keep visiting Mexico as so much of the economy relies on tourist dollars. Just be sensible.
ReplyDelete@1013 you're thinking like a rational person... Most of the readers of this website only know Mexico based on what is posted here, which is mostly picked up from other sources and translated. As a result, they see all of Mexico as what is posted here.
Delete10:13 3:08 good for you,go to Mexico and stay there,where it was not safe for the about 150 000 Mexicans fallen to the priista campaign of giving the panistas a bad name,to get back in power one more time,it probably won't happen again,so it must all be stolen right now,to make up for the last 12 years,and for the future that the pri is killing under Pena nieto for the last time.
DeleteSend your people money,but fuck tourism, as long as it is not mandatory,like,what do we owe Mexico?much as we love our country and our people,fuck the narco-democracia...
Sometimes their kidnapped to ultimately b executed
ReplyDelete"I was in Patzcuaro (Michoacan) and Mexico City for a month over October/November this year. Perfectly safe experience (for me). I urge tourists to keep visiting Mexico as so much of the economy relies on tourist dollars. Just be sensible. "
ReplyDeleteit's a good thought. and you are absolutely right that many towns in Mexico are perectly safe - and the local people really DO need tourism. So what dies it take for Americans to return to Mexico in greater numbers to spend their cash? The ANSWER is that Mexico needs a trustworthy police force on the ground. The country needs regular police - in uniform - who work at the local level, are not currupted (even a little bit), will treat all people fairly (both tourists and Mexican citizens), and can be relied on to show good judgment. THAT'S IT. If Mexico could re-establish that one aspect of its policing, many more people would spend tourist dollars.
But as it is, outsiders are hardly comfortable at all. And who can blame them? The video posted at the top of this thread shows exactly why so many foreigners are staying away from Mexico. Hence it is far more vital for the government in Mexico City to put in place a police force on the streets that wears uniforms and can be trusted - as opposed to running elaborate behind-the-scenes undercover grab operations. P, CA
2:15 not happenin',as long as the criminals and the government are one and the same.
DeleteAs long as the presidential palace is being occupied by the Ali babba turned president of the 40 thieves,and the presidential palace is more like a mouse-with-big-ears' hole inthr wall turned into the 40 thieves cave.
Til then,it will all be the same,under Mao,the Chinese red guards did a good job of taking over,under the US, the Mexican black guards are bound to stay,like Ford's thugs,and the white guards of the transnationals that used to own the Mexican companies,they will be turned into prosperous businessmen tomorrow...
Your definition of an Express kidnapping is wrong. In this type of kidhapping the victim is held against their will until the kidnappers exaust all efforts to steal the victim's money through the victimls debit card(s) at an ATM. Most Express kidnappers don't execute the kidnapping in broad daylight and out in the open. This kidnapping would appear to be more a kidnapping for ransom. Why anybody would be surprised that the police did not act is beyond me, much less auxiliary police, which is a joke.......
ReplyDeleteWhat could the police do? Open fire on the kidnappers? Then what? Then you would have the same parade of socialist pendejos holding up cardboard signs at "civil rights" rallies accusing the police of "civil rights violations."
ReplyDeleteMejicanitos, you can't have it both ways dummies.
Niggas tryna start there own cartels in shit
ReplyDelete2:15 The problem is you have to be careful or lucky. I have lived in Mexico for years now. I have had innocent friends killed here in Chihuahua. I have had an American fiend travel into the mountains, when he had 15 Narco's with guns pull him from his truck, and and threaten him to not use his satellite phone, or they would kill him. They told him the rules to be there. When he got to the hotel he met two Americans that said the same people had entered their room without knocking and they were told the same at gunpoint. My friend was shot in Applebees at 10:00 AM by 3 men here in Chihuahua. My other friends son was shot and killed as he exited a bar because his friend danced with someones girl. My wife's friend and has a business and is being extorted by two groups. A friend of my daughter-in-law was coming into Mexico from the USA to visit family. He was kidnapped and they left his daughter on the side of the road. While he waited for the ransom to get paid, the two other kidnap victims were shot in the head as he was talking two them as their families had not paid. I know of so many terrible things that are personal and very close here, and these people were not criminals. I have seen people hanging from bridges and I have seen two executions. I am a White American living in Mexico with wonderful people. No matter where you go peoples house are built like fortresses to keep people out. My friend came to visit me from Denver and the first day he was robbed at gunpoint of $700 while in The Farmacia Guadalajara. He will not come back. Everywhere in Mexico the police look for mordida and will lie to get it. I Love my Mexican friends and wife and I will stay here until I die. We all die someday. But if you do things like a normal person and just do as you would in the USA you have a great chance of something bad happening to you. People that live here take extra precautions that you would not take in the USA. I have never had anything even close to the things I have described in 55 years while living in the USA. You do not hear or read most of the crimes that are perpetrated against tourists, because they do not make the news. So do not let your guard down while in Mexico, and think out of the box. I could tell you of more personal stories that have happened here as I have traveled all of Mexico all of my life. But I have probably already lost many peoples attention as this is a long post. People here are wary of everyone. They do not trust people too much that they do not know.
ReplyDelete2:38 nigga' didn'try n's worte a book...
Delete8:00 nigga'worte a book.
but you're sure right,there is a lot of crime that is not reported,and the hawks are plenty and always alert,you are a target and if you didn't know that is your problem...
Don't be so quick to jump to conclusions. Maybe they are undercover federales arresting a group of thieves, narcos, kidnappers, sicarios, who knows. Or, maybe cartel members kidnapping rival cartel members. If that's the case, tet the "limpia" continue.
ReplyDeleteChivis , this is must be where these poor folk end up .
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This is an issue/ article of its own .
December 8, 2013 at 3:08 PM After 25 years of extensive travel in Mexico and believe me it HAS changed. Oh sure, sure there are all the pretty little tourist areas . We can name many. San Miguel de Allende , Oaxaca ,Baja etc. But, even Taxco GRO has had its share of bloodshed. Places like once beautiful Acapulco are now ruined . What in someone wants to drive a Ford 4x4 F250 all over Mexico? Some group of armed azzholes will probably take it , and everything in it before It gets to the state of Nuevo Leon .
ReplyDeleteI will not go to mexico for many reasons. One I am a victim / survivor of violence. And upon return to my homeland I was mocked , publicly humiliated ,cyber bullied , and eventually exiled by people I thought were my friends. I will not goes as far as to say do not buy Avocados from Mexico . But , I will plea to anyone wanting to go Mexico to read BB and the following sites.
http://missingamericans.ning.com/
http://mexicovacationawareness.com/
I will not paint a false sense of security about the situation in Mexico.
Chivis , exactly . The men in the video seem poorly , poorly , under trained just "luchador wannabees" Not like a actual PGR type trained & coordinated arrest.
ReplyDeleteAnything goes nowdays in Ol' Mexico .
I guess soon we will see there torture video then beheading on here.
ReplyDeleteLooks like Genaro Garcia Luna spent all the 1.5 billion US dollars from the mierda accords on trucks for his narcos...the narcs buy their own weapons in trade for drugs,the NRA members will pay for the drugs in weapons,not in cash,not all the time...
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