Proceso (3-20-2014) Translated for Borderland Beat by un vato
MEXICO, D.F. (apro).- Eduardo Quintero, the lawyer for Hipolito Mora, leader of the self defense forces (in Michoacan), stated that the judge who issued a formal order of imprisonment against his client lacked the "balls" ("guevos") to set his client free.
The judge, he elaborated, based his ruling on statements from members of the immediate family of one of the victims in whose murder Mora allegedly participated, and on the testimony of a witness that, in his opinion, was simply not credible.
In an interview with Noticias MVS, the first broadcast, Quintero pointed out that two of the children of one of the victims -- he didn't specify which of the two victims-- and the wife said in their statements that they "believe" that Hipolito Mora was the one who ordered the murder of their family member.
The fourth witness, he specified, states that in the dark and at a distance of 500 yards -- between four and five city blocks --, she saw and heard Hipolito Mora and his people beating up the victims.
"That is literally what the witness said; she saw and listened while Hipolito Mora and his people were beating up these two persons, without lighting and in the dark, and despite that, she could hear and see what was happening five blocks away. That is completely unbelievable testimony", the lawyer argued.
"Yesterday (Thursday) I witnessed the biggest act of cowardice on the part of a judge in the exercise of his profession when he ordered a formal order of imprisonment against a man of Hipolito Mora's moral stature.
"With that evidence (the statements), he issues a formal order of imprisonment. It was undoubtedly cowardice, not wanting to directly resolve Hipolito Mora's legal situation, washing his hands", Quintero asserted.
Not only that; the judge ruled himself incompetent to hear Hipolito Mora's case by sending him to Apatzingan.
"With respect to his incompetence, I have to say I agree that he is incompetent, but mentally incompetent. Only an incompetent could conclude that there is evidence on which to issue a formal imprisonment order", he lashed out.
In addition, he said, he considers the judge responsible for whatever happens to his client for transferring him to Apatzingan, considered the bastion of "Los Caballeros Templarios".
"I told the judge he was a coward, a vile person, when he issued a ruling that placed the life of Hipolito Mora in danger by transferring him to the city of Apatzingan and sending the court file to that city", states Quintero.
-- Do you think Hipolito's life is in danger?-- asked the journalist, Carmen Aristegui.
-- Yes, and I said that, too, in front of him. Whatever may happen to Hipolito Mora is his responsibility, And if at some point Hipolito Mora loses his life as a result of this, it will be on his conscience.
-- Do we have before us only an act of cowardice?
-- Sure, if it was a political matter, I would say that, too, and if he was a sentencing judge, I would say it.
The lawyer went farther and suggested that he also does not believe that the judge is an honest man "because it is not possible that on a judge's salary, which is miserly here in Michoacan, he can afford to have his daughter living in Spain.
And he concluded: "Unfortunately, we did not offer anything in exchange for Hipolito Mora's freedom because we could not offer anything for the freedom of an innocent person".
Quintero pointed out that he still has not decided whether he will appeal the judge's ruling or resort to an "amparo", and that he will decide within the next few hours.
www.proceso.com.mx/?p=367692
UPDATE FROM EL DIARIO DE COAHUILA (3-20-2014)
Hipolito Defense Will File a Criminal Complaint Against Judge
Eduardo Quintero, the lawyer for the self defense forces leader, categorizes as "vile and cowardly" the ruling against his client; he states he will appeal the formal order of imprisonment.
Eduardo Quintero, defense lawyer for Hipolito Mora, announced that he will file a criminal complaint against the 4th (district) Judge on Criminal (Matters) because of the decision he rendered against his client, against whom he issued a formal order of imprisonment.
The lawyer also said he expects that Antonio Magana de la Mora, President of the Judicial Branch, will take some action in the case.
In an interview in the radio program Noticias UM, broadcast by Radio Nicolaita, the lawyer called the judge's ruling "vile and cowardly".
He added that he will undertake legal measures, such as a criminal complaint, due to the fact that (the order) endangers the life of the founder and leader of the self defense groups when (the judge) ordered the transfer of the case to Apatzingan.
Quintero said that Mora could be transferred to Apatzingan within the next few days, although he stated that they will appeal the formal order of imprisonment that was issued on Thursday.
"The judge has a meager salary, but despite that, with it, he provides for his daughter's education in Spain, which places his actions in doubt", said the lawyer.
UPDATE FROM EL DIARIO DE COAHUILA (3-20-2014)
Hipolito Defense Will File a Criminal Complaint Against Judge
Eduardo Quintero, the lawyer for the self defense forces leader, categorizes as "vile and cowardly" the ruling against his client; he states he will appeal the formal order of imprisonment.
Eduardo Quintero, defense lawyer for Hipolito Mora, announced that he will file a criminal complaint against the 4th (district) Judge on Criminal (Matters) because of the decision he rendered against his client, against whom he issued a formal order of imprisonment.
The lawyer also said he expects that Antonio Magana de la Mora, President of the Judicial Branch, will take some action in the case.
In an interview in the radio program Noticias UM, broadcast by Radio Nicolaita, the lawyer called the judge's ruling "vile and cowardly".
He added that he will undertake legal measures, such as a criminal complaint, due to the fact that (the order) endangers the life of the founder and leader of the self defense groups when (the judge) ordered the transfer of the case to Apatzingan.
Quintero said that Mora could be transferred to Apatzingan within the next few days, although he stated that they will appeal the formal order of imprisonment that was issued on Thursday.
"The judge has a meager salary, but despite that, with it, he provides for his daughter's education in Spain, which places his actions in doubt", said the lawyer.
The judge is a total pussy
ReplyDeleteWow,5 football field she saw and heard them..even special forces couldnt do that,with nightvision and all their technology...i wait for the day mexicos justice system is a 5th as the US..a american judge would of thrown that witness in jail for such blasphemy statements
ReplyDeleteShe is a Marvel Comics Superhero!
Delete10:09 , Yet is this something to make a joke about idiot? Have some class and self dignity .
DeleteSorry, I was just trying to make a point at how idiotic how the court system in Mexico can actually use her statement as actual evidence. This may be theater for the people following the events in Michuacan but, for the brave men and woman who are putting their lives on the line trying to fight the cartels. To find out that the very government that is there to protect them is actually the bigger enemy is just absurd! It wasn't meant as a joke. just
DeleteThat's Mexico for you. Through the whole article I read judge this, judge that but never was the the judge's name mentioned. Btw, do they allow polygraph tests in Mexico? Didn't the defense have their own witnesses? What a screwed up justice system. That judge should be investigated as well.
ReplyDeleteWhos going to investigate? Everybody is corrupted! The more I read these articles the more dumbfounded I get. Nothing surprises me anymore. Maybe the cartels eating dead peoples balls, oh wait they are already doing that! Unfucking believable!!!! Any Mexican cirizen above peasant is corrupted (except for a few like Dr Mirales)!
DeleteMust be Eduardo Quinteros first day on the job practicing law.. Talking shit to the judge will gain him what, exactly... Lol. Dumbass.
ReplyDeletePlanring the seeds of revolution!
DeleteIt wasn't the Boston tea party that began the American Revolution, but it sure was one of the seeds! The way the British Responded was what started the Revolution. BOSTON MASACRE ANYBODY! REMEMBER THAT! THE BRITISH KILLED A BUNCH OF UNARMED COLONISTS! THE Romonov Army killing a bunch of unarmed peasants began the Russian revolution that brought down the Romanoc Dynasty, and brought in the Comunists! You can look up most all revolutions and it was the incomitance, and injustice that brought down the previous government!
DeleteHe was not/won't be transfered to Apatzingan:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.eluniversal.com.mx/estados/2014/hipolito-mora-apatzingan-996847.html
I want to go to that Doctor that gave that girl badd ass eyesight! Is that a new procedure better than Lasic?
ReplyDeleteBALLS? MORE LIKE IF YOU LET THIS GUY GO WE WILL NOT ONLY KILL YOU BUT ALL OF YOUR FAMILY! Thats probably what was told to him before his decision. Its only a matter before some more events get the People of Mexico all riled up into revolution. The seeds have already been planted and most people that will ne tomorrows Mexican heroes don't even know it yet. Their probably just doing menial jobs right now unknowingly waiting for the powderkeg to blow up!
ReplyDeleteCan't beat them join them
ReplyDeleteBreaking news! No Joke! The Templarios just ambushed the Mexican Marines and at least one dead! Also something about a helicopter going down! If true the Templarios are not going to have any chance of being captured alive! Tuta and Kiki are really done now!
ReplyDelete11:43
ReplyDeleteI have been following the story and authorities claim there were no missing aircraft shot down or otherwise, that there was the confrontation and it involved a helicopter but it was not disabled. they confirm 3 soldiers injured and 2 ct injured and one killed other reports say 2 killed.
so I don't know...:(
"I don't know". That's some brutal honesty and pure integrity coming com a journalist,Chivas! You don't hear that too often in your field. My utmost respect!
DeleteThats good news that no Mexican Marines have died. Lets hope the injured are not to bad! Much respect Chivis!
Deletemost revolutions, if they don't have the blessings from england, and the help of the designated mercenary armies, do not succeed on liberating anybody permanently...
ReplyDeleteWell then let get prince Harry on the phone!
Delete11:21 good idea! Problem is prince charles, prince william, the new heir and the queen are on his way! And I don't think harry gives a damn anyway ay ay ay! Party time!
DeleteMaybe the house of Rothschild, do you need a quarter?
prostiturer GODOY, and all the other GODOYS, el americano and the witnesses must be on the same team, not templario, but different and all there, since way back when.
ReplyDeletei don't understand the fascination with spain, from juan antonio mouriño, fecal, bertie boy moreira, oceanografia's compromised contracts with pemex, enrique francisco galindo ceballos and this judge X daughter, someone had brain samallpox and only the scars are left, the spaniards can't even run their lousy economy, they are looking for billions of dollars missing from investors, and from the spanish government, industries that can't pay their workers, the only good thing spain ever had is on its way out, too many pussies crying about the evils of bullfighting.
Spain of the foreign and domestic whores that walk its ancient streets butt naked to make king juan carlos de borbon, francisco franco's pretty boy a few more pesetas, i hope hipolito mora's lawyer roasts the prosecution's and the judge's asses like el pollo rostizado, that got so well roasted, that he won't be accepted in hell; DIG AND YE SHALL FIND pigs are told...
Huh?! Wtf r u talking about bro?
Delete2:25 The judge's daughter studies in Spain, you connect the dots.
Delete2:25 Yeah, I sometimes forget about separating each statement and numbering it for the slo-mos. But the botton line is how can a daughter of a poorly paid mexican judge be studying in spain?
DeleteMora's attorney has some big balls to be badmouthing that judge...
I understood the part about the judges daughter studying abroad, what I didnt get is wtf all the rambling is about. Theres references about Juan antonio mourino, pemex, spains lousy economy, bullfighting etc. I can understand that you have a lot to say about a lot of things but for those of us that are to slow to grasp your vast knowledge u should try to make some sense. Just saying, thanks! Peace!
DeleteThis is very sad, I've lost hope already, there's no point in fighting drug cartels, what should be done first is kill every single motherfucker politician who's fucking us in the ass on a regular basis, I blame el PRI, PAN, PRD and Televisa for the disgrace of our country, I blame us as a community for not having the balls to stand up and fight. I admire the AD's in Michoacán, can anyone tell me how to join? I'd rather die there fighting some junkie piece of shit than waiting on my ass and complain about everything, everyone living in Mexico should do the same.
ReplyDeletesoooo... not eve an alibi could be presented for Hipolito??
ReplyDelete9:39 mora,hipolito is lucky he has not been made to confess to all the other murders he has committed since 40 years ago, which would make him the most prolific serial murderer cannibal and rapist since chikatil, don't tell anybody, but you know, mora has been very lucky this far...
DeleteAnd Mora wanted government help. Dumbass!
ReplyDeleteSee, that's what he gets for trusting a crooked government..
Ofcourse the judge didn't have the balls to set hipolito Mora free. It's either Mora's head or his head and ofcourse he's gonna pick some elses head.
ReplyDeletethis trial was faster then chapos who is well known to be the main head behind 3,000plus murders througth mexico...and yet no word on his case...BUNCH OF BULLSHIT !
ReplyDeleteyou forget Morena, prianal, panal, and one of the worst ever, el partido verde ecologista, hellbent on stealing any land, national park ejidos for tourist resorts, drug trafficking, pederast oriented tourism, etc, always for sale to the party in government, a party fully invaded by a majority of imaginary voters. a party with more satraps at the top than real members, its top man, a corrupt drug trafficking chilango porro from the DF, talk about gandallas like gabriel quadri de la torre
ReplyDeleteAUTODEFENSA IS THE ANSWER TO THE CRIMINALS IN MEXICO.
ReplyDeleteAND IT ISN'T SURPRISING THAT THE DRUG CARTELS WILL TRY EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING TO THWART THESE ORGANISATIONS.
AND ONE OF THE RUSES THEY'LL USE WILL BE TO GET THE COUNTRY'S INSTITUTIONS TO SOW DISCORD AMONG THE AUTODENFESA'S MEMBERS!!!!
SO, STAND GUARD AGAINST SUCH PLOYS!!!!!!!
Yeah! So don't let these guy in the AD'S!
Deletemexican people lay back and take everything their own government does to them. If you ask me the mexican people, all of them, deserve the shit hole country they allowed to materialize.
ReplyDeleteWHY WOULD A JUDGE THAT ISSUED A WARRENT FOR HIS IMPRISONMENT SUDDENLY SAY FUCK IT JUST LET HIM GO.........THAT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE AND WHAT MAKES LESS SENSE HIS THE MANS LAWYER SAYS THAT THE JUDGE DID NOT HAVE THE BALLS TO SET HIM FREE THAT EVEN MAKES LESS SENSE IS HIS LAWYER OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY IF A JUDGE ORDERS YOUR ARREST AND IMPRISONMENT WHY THE FUCK WOULD HE NOT HAVE THE BALLS T0 RELEASE YOU.....WELL I HAVE THE ANSWER BECAUSE THE JUDGE IS THE ONE THAT ISSUED THE ARREST WARRANT MORONIC LAWYER. ALSO WHO THE FUCK RELEASES SOMEONE WHO IS ACCUSED OF MURDER A MORON WOULD DOESNT THE LAWYER KNOW THIS AND DONT THEY UNDERSTAND YOU DONT JUST ALLOW A ACCUSED MURDERER TO WALK. IT TAKES BALLS TO STAND UP TO KILLERS AND THEIR CORRUPT ASS LAWYERS THAT THINK THE SYSTEM SHOULD BEND FOR THEM AND THAT ANYONE AGAINST THEM SUDDENLY SHOULD BE ATTACKED WITH INSAULTS AND DEATH THREATS AND OTHER THINGS BECAUSE THEIR THAT STUPID TO THINK IT WILL STILL WORK LIKE THAT.
ReplyDeleteMexico is still a beautiful country, you're a shithole of a person. Eventually things will get better and hopefullythe current ggovernment system gets kicked out
ReplyDelete@7:33
ReplyDeleteno more all caps please.
@7:33: ALL CAPS: The reason he was taken before a judge was to determine whether there was enough evidence to hold him for trial. The only evidence on record were three statements: two opinions ("I believe he did it"), and one statement where a witness states, "At night, without street lighting and a 500 yards, I saw and heard this person beating up on the victims". No sane, honest or competent judge in the world would rule that that was enough evidence to go to trial, much less evidence of guilt..
ReplyDeleteFurthermore, the arrest warrant was also deficient if it was based on these three statements. Therefore, it's irrelevant what judge issued it. Mora should not have been arrested in the first place and should have been released for lack of evidence. The only conclusion that an impartial observer can reach is that the judge is incompetent, corrupt, a coward, or all three. Mora's lawyer was correct to say the judge had no balls.
Just a correction - it's "huevos" NOT "guevos"...
ReplyDeleteMarch 22, 2014 at 2:23 PM
ReplyDeleteWatch out you will get a lot of hysterical cretins telling us how wrong we all are,at the same time as they are trying to leave it.Oh,and your right about people just look on here?Ever so nice.
What a vile piece of shit the judge is sending hin to a CT controlled prison. Hope the AD and federal police start squeezing on La Puta and other mini bossses to hinder the capabilities of the CT to move shipments and go after their families that swim in drug money. Ya maten a La Puta ya!
ReplyDelete4:29 it is that some people go back to the mother of the nueva españa, Spain, to study, spain has been fighting like a hungry bitch through many princely delegates and bemedaled presidents like FECAL to get its hungry claws on the latin american economies, after bankrupting their own for listening to the neo-liberal enticement of austerity policies, the schooling of that judge's daughter in spain an become a lot more expensive to the mexicans. the schooling of many of our popoliticians in harvard and yale has proved to be a motherfucking disaster, the pinoccio puppets educated in the US have become the cause and the reason of mexico being so fucked up, you may know or not, if you want to get the whole puzzle you must look at every little detail.
ReplyDelete@7:33 there is CAPITAL SIN and there are MAJOR ASSHOLES.
--pena nieto has been accused of murder,kidnapping, false imprisonment, rape, murder of his first wife,etc while governor of the state of mexico. --governors and other popoliticians all across the country have been accused of murder, corruption, incompetence, of being in cahoots with murdering gangs of drug traffickers, accused of money laundering...
--and no mexican judges have issued orders of arrest or investigations, even with proof on their hands.
--jorge hank rohn was found to have in his own home, weapons used to murder people and reporters he didn't like, ad the US themselves have proof of his drug traffickng and money laundering.
--same about manlio fabio beltrones, manuel cavazos lerma, Z1 fidel herrera beltran, tomas yarrington and many others, and the US desist from arresting, prosecuting or even investigating any or all of these crooks, who in many cases have been doing their dirty deeds in cahoots with powerful corrupt white US politicians...
--and this judge on hipolito's case can't judge ct crimimals brought to his courthouse, can't judge on sound credible evidence because there isn't any, --but he can imprison hipolito on the say so of some turncoats allied with el americano, another turncoat.
--that's a most major piece of shit judge, and nobody other than people like you can come to the defense of such a SMELLY piece of SHIT.