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| The Tuta meeting with the mayors now arrested |
A
federal judge ordered the arrests of three mayors of Michoacán, including Salma
Karrum Cervantes, mayor of Patzcuaro, for alleged links to the Caballeros
Templarios.
Thomas
Zerón Lucio, Chief of the Criminal Investigation Agency PGR reported today they
conducted the apprehensions of Karrum with Archimedes Oseguera Solorio and
Dalia Santana Pineda, mayors of Lázaro Cárdenas and Huetamo, for links to
organized crime. Santana was also arrested for murder.
"PGR
in investigating the Caballeros Templarios operating in Michoacán, the
preliminary investigations, and videos that reveal the mayors were involved in
at least "at least two meetings
between Servando Gómez Martínez, leader of Templarios, in the state of
Michoacán.”
On August 14, Santana, mayor of Huetamo, was arrested on separate charges for extortion and murder. according to the investigations, the mayor
allegedly ordered the murder of her friend Antonio Granados Gomez, with whom she
had a personal conflict, the killing took place on 9 April 2013 in the city of
Huetamo.
As
for Karrum, she has the distinction of being in two "Tuta
videos". The first is one in which
she sits down with a representative of Tuta's, "Tony" the plaza chief
of Patzuaro. In a disgusting display of
behavior, remember she is the mayor sitting with the organized crime plaza
chief of her city. She grovels, show
respect, and even takes his hands in her own as she pleads for answers.
The
video shows the two seated at a table, outdoors. Karrum's objective is to find out answers of
why her son in law, Jonathan Noe Rondan, 28, was killed. Noe Rondan was killed at he was aboard his
Jeep Cherokee, on Februrary 28, 2014. He
was shot close range with three bullets to the head.
Karrum
explains how her daughter is grieving, and how they always felt safe, and don't
know what they did "wrong".
There
are two sons in law, apparently the other is named Victor, here is part of the
transcript from the video (A is the mayor T is Tony Plaza chief Management is Tuta):
Tony
prompts her to be honest, asks if she thinks they had something to do with the
killing.
Karrum
says: Well, yes, I feel betrayed, because I have not failed (you), I have not failed
you and my life changed.
T: I understand.
A: My daughter was left by herself…it’s not
fair…you tell me…
T: When you say you feel betrayed, what are
you talking about, honestly?
A: No, what I want is to know, for you to
tell me…I felt very safe with you…but I knew…I felt very sure about you but I
must have done something wrong…if I did anything wrong, tell me.
T: I understand.
A: No...what I want to know is what
happened, whether you know (inaudible) if I could find out who did it, why he
did it. My daughter… (inaudible).
T: Look, let’s start with that. Are you
talking about Victor? (A: Yes). Look, Victor and I have a good relationship.
Actually, we’ve worked out some good agreements. I was with him 2 days before
this happened.
(A: Yes, he told me.)
T: We negotiated some agreements and he lived up
to them. That is, on our side, it is not logical for us… when I say “us”, I’m
speaking for all of management, for all of the company to which I belong. It is
not logical for us to want to harm him. I’m telling you this while looking you
straight in the eye. I became aware of this at 12:00 at night when I got a call
telling me to –There’s your water (flunky delivers the bottled water)—(A: Thank
you.) When I got a call telling me to place myself at your orders because your
son in law had been killed.
The
First thing that came into my mind was Victor, I’ll be frank with you, because
I didn’t know you had another son in law.
A: Yes, there were only two daughters and
they’ve told me … (inaudible).
T: Yes, you told me, M’am. I never met him, I
didn’t know anything about him, that he even existed. Believe me, no. I began
to investigate. I spoke with Ricardo, Mr. Molina, and I said to him this
morning, “Hey, is it true this happened?”, and he says, “Yes”. So I told him, “Tell me something: They think
we did it, right?” And, in so many words, he said, “Yes.”
That
was the first…
A: It’s not what one thinks… but I had my
doubts, and I had felt so sure. I had felt so secure with you and they called
me … (inaudible).
T: I spoke with our "management",
and the first thing they told me is that we will not charge you this month’s
payment. (so compassionate, she doesn’t have to pay piso for a month)
He
attempts to convince her that they did not have anything to do with the killing,
and says these things happen;
"Just
like, you know, in the U.S., which has the best police and the best control,
these things happen."
and
the video goes on.... it was filmed shortly after the son in law was killed. This is about half of the footage there are 3 parts, but this is a good overview.
Read
the transcript below the video, it is long and repetitious, but has some tidbits on how the relationships work between cartels and municipalities.
Already
in custody, the mayors will be formally arrested and moved to a medium security
prison in the next few hours. (next page)
TRANSCRIPT OF
CONVERSATION BETWEEN
Mayor of Patzcuaro and Templario known as “Tony” Translated narrative by Vato
(Scene
opens with Mayor and Tony beginning to sit down and asking for drinks. Mayor
asks for water at room temperature. Flunkey scoots off to get their orders. “A”
= Alcaldesa (Mayor) and “T” = Tony).
00:23
T: How are you?
A: Truly?
I don’t know what happened.
T: Look, we want you to let us know how
you feel, we want to be honest, for you to let us know what you feel inside
without being afraid of us, being afraid of anything. Please let me know how
you feel and we’ll start with that. What do you think about that? We are
worried, I want to be honest with you, looking at you in the eyes, because I
like to look at you in the eyes because I’m sincere. Well…I know that you are
hurting, hurting very much. I want you to tell me what you’re thinking.
Honestly and from the heart, that is how we’re going to talk, honestly.
A: Well, yes, I feel betrayed, because I
have not failed (you), I have not failed you and my life changed.
01:27
T: I understand.
A: My daughter was left by herself…it’s
not fair…you tell me…
T: When you say you feel betrayed, what are
you talking about, honestly?
A: No, what I want is to know, for you to
tell me…I felt very safe with you…but I knew…I felt very sure about you but I
must have done something wrong…if I did anything wrong, tell me.
T: But, if you’re thinking that we had
something to do with what happened, tell me, honestly.
A: No, what I want to know is what
happened, whether you know (inaudible) if I could find out who did it, why he
did it. My daughter… (inaudible).
02:20
T: Look, let’s start with that. Are you
talking about Victor? (A: Yes). Look, Victor and I have a good relationship.
Actually, we’ve worked out some good agreements. I was with him 2 days before
this happened. (A: Yes, he told me.) We negotiated some agreements and he lived
up to them. That is, on our side, it is not logical for us… when I say “us”,
I’m speaking for all of management, for all of the company to which I belong.
It is not logical for us to want to harm him. I’m telling you this while
looking you straight in the eye. I became aware of this at 12:00 at night when
I got a call telling me to –There’s your water (flunky delivers the bottled
water)—(A: Thank you.) When I got a call telling me to place myself at your
orders because your son in law had been killed.
The
First thing that came into my mind was Victor, I’ll be frank with you, because
I didn’t know you had another son in law.
A: Yes, there were only two daughters and
they’ve told me … (inaudible).
T: Yes, you told me, M’am. I never met
him, I didn’t know anything about him, that he even existed. Believe me, no. I
began to investigate. I spoke with Ricardo, Mr. Molina, and I said to him this
morning, “Hey, is it true this happened?”, and he says, “Yes”. So I told him, “Tell me something: They think
we did it, right?” And, in so many words, he said, “Yes.”
That
was the first…
A: It’s not that one thinks… but I had my
doubts, and I had felt so sure. I had felt so secure with you and they called
me … (inaudible).
T: I spoke with our management, and the
first thing they told me is that we will not charge you this month’s payment.
A: And are they saying around there that
I…
T: I swear they’re not saying that.
A: I’ll keep on doing the same thing, but
I was just sitting there…not knowing what… and what’s more, I think it’s better
to say what you think…
04:37
T: No. I’m telling you honestly it was
not us. Our management is worried. I tell you honestly, it was not us. The
persons who give me orders are very annoyed, just like you are. Why? Just like
you’re telling me, we’re supposed to have everything under control, but
unfortunately, in Patzcuaro, we cannot move around like we did before. Because
as you know, the government…when we had a little more presence in Patzcuaro, we
had a little more control. We still do, but it is a little more difficult
because there’s so much government around. Just like, you know, in the U.S.,
which has the best police and the best control, these things happen.
They
asked me to… My management explained to me that I was to look for whoever did
this, and to talk to you and between the two us, to find out who did this harm.
Unfortunately, there was no communication with you because you went somewhere,
you were hurt,, you were fearful, whatever. But there is still time for you to
tell me … I wish Victor had come with you. I told Mr. Molina that I would
guarantee his safety for him to come and talk to me. We would see what came
out. Whether there were problems among us, or whether Victor had problems with
anybody.
A: No. Well, you know how everything is,
how the work is going, but I cannot accuse anybody…
T: Look, with Victor we made some
agreements that you were involved with and that nobody could negotiate with
Carlos. We talked with you, we negotiated some agreements, we are working well
together. To such an extent that the persons in management sent word to me to
support you and to observe proper form so we would not prejudice you, remember
I told you this? (A: Yes.) So that you would be the next congressional
delegate, because they saw you as a good candidate, with a good heart, so you
would be the next congresswoman. I had that conversation with you. (A: Yes,
yes.)
07:05
T: It’s not logical, on our part, it
can’t be… What I’m thinking, things that come into my head, that I’ve heard, a
lot of rumors, and that they’re investigating now. And one of those things,
I’ll be honest with you, is that it (may have been) revenge by (?Pollo?) over
something.
A: I’ve never even spoken with that man,
the truth is I’ve never even talked to him. When I was campaigning, he
supported my people and we agreed on one (city) department. Then he took two
departments, and towards the end, he wanted three, and I told him, “Sir, the
deal was for two”. But I never had any problems with him. But all of a sudden,
it looked like he wanted to be in charge, he came to city hall and hung around
all day, acting like a boss. But it didn’t bother me, I would just say, “Good
morning” to him and leave him there. So I have no idea… I never had problems
with him, you know.
T: But they arrested him…
A: I didn’t have anything…
T: I know you didn’t, you have a good
heart.
A: I was not even aware they arrested him.
But I don’t think that was even the first time, I believe they had arrested him
once before.
T: Yes. That is…
A: It’s not logical to think that I would have
had him…
T: That is not the point, not the case.
The thing is, I wanted to find out what you thought, whether you think he could
have done it? Sent somebody (to do it)? Because what Ricardo told me is that it
was a single person (A: Yes.). One person by himself walked up, which is
something we don’t do. As you know, we do things differently, we come in a
pickup when we have to take care of something. We would never use a single
person, to begin with. Somebody could have hired one person, a hoodlum or
whatever, they pay them cheap, 20,000 or 30,000 pesos or less, you know, and
they’ll go and kill somebody. So we want to know whether he had enemies.
10:22
A: I feel very safe with you, that’s why I
wanted to ask whether he did anything wrong. I know there are codes of conduct
that one could violate without knowing. The truth is, I have never failed you,
I lived up to the agreement. Speaking from my heart, I’ve never asked for a
favor, and now…
T: Believe me, management is very happy
with you. And I personally appreciate something else, that you spoke well of
me, because Isabel told me there was a good relationship.
A: Yes, I think very highly of you. I had
nothing else to say…
T: I’ll tell you one thing: the death of
you son in law hurts me deeply, it hurts me, and I speak from the heart. I’m
not a hypocrite. I’m being sincere. It hurts me because of you, maybe not
because of him, because I did not know him. Because I don’t want… we have a
good relationship and, really, those people were trying to harm us.
My
management called me, I repeat, and told me, “Bring me the guilty person,”
because they did not ask me, they told me. So I’m doing what’s necessary,
because if we wait, everything will come out. Because between heaven and earth,
nothing can hide, and you know that. And time will prove us right, that it was
not us.
And
the man, well, again, the management is annoyed, it’s annoyed with what is
happening. Yesterday they killed another director of public security, and,
again, it was us, you know?! That, supposedly, it was us!.
A: I’ve never said that you… but, what I’m
saying is that you know about everything that happens. I mean, I used to leave
work by myself, just with the driver. I never had the police look after me. It
was…
Tony pledges to continue the investigation in finding who is responsible for the murder.
Tony pledges to continue the investigation in finding who is responsible for the murder.
Mexico!!!
ReplyDeleteEverybody in michoacan getting arrested except la tuta
ReplyDeleteHa, ha, ha, Funny how la Tuta is cleaning house. Getting all the dirty politicians locked up with his videos. Haven't all these crooked politicians caught on to this, yet they allow themselves to be videotaped while meeting with La Tuta. I wish he would make a video of Castillo and post it on the net.
ReplyDeleteThe next video should be titled " The Dumbest Politicians Candid Videos" produced and directed by La Tuta. stay tuned in to see who will be "The Next Dumb Contestant."
Does this make Tuta a good guy? is he the only Templario left ? does la familia still excist?
DeleteTuta owns their ass, and if he wants to make a video of the meeting, will make the video. I'm sure they have no control over much if anything in their lives.
DeleteWait till Hollywood gets ahold of this for their next reality T.V. show!
DeletePlara o plomo o video!
DeleteHm, guess la Tuta isn't as stupid as everyone makes him out to be....
ReplyDeletePatiently waiting for the tuta & EPN video
ReplyDeletecome on chivas dig deep
you can do it!!!!!
Chapo chapo chapo
ReplyDeleteCartels are just doing what the politicians always have;taking some of that treasury money[kickbacks].Maybe its time for the politicians to set the example although I think its too late,they are now just puppets for the cartels.The mayor spoke of 1 department then they wanted 2 and now 3 that speaks volumes.It must be really shitty to be a politician in Michoacán as their hands are really tied[damned if they do and damned if they don't play along,catch 22]They just end up like criminals either dead or imprisoned.
ReplyDeleteI have been waiting for a video of
ReplyDeleteTuta and Police and Army generals :-)
La tuta is a durty thieve but damn he came out smarter than the mex government he had 1st second and a 3rd plan he's handing it to them but fuck him hope they catch him soon wats next video with nieto we can expect anything from the mex government lol
ReplyDeleteCJNG is coming for you Tuta!!!
ReplyDeleteFool please.
DeleteWait and see 12:46. Puta is just a puppet and the puppet always has a master.
DeleteHold on, now... When did Pátzcuaro relocate to tierra caliente? Because those gringo ex-pats in Pátzcuaro always said the problems with the Templarios were in tiny, isolated pueblos in the "hot lands."
ReplyDeleteNo wonder the self-defense groups moved into Pátzcuaro in late February, 2014. The Mayor of Pátzcuaro has been on the Templario payroll all along!!
The mayors and governors, anybody handling money from government positions AND private enterprises are on the shake down list, paying good money to the ct.
DeleteIf the ct were paying to the corrupt government, government would be payroll, the situation in michoacan clearly shows the level of corruption in the state of michoacan...
@September 1, 2014 at 11:17 PM
ReplyDeleteAre you sure they're in position where they could say no? I'm not.
Can you imagine those who sold their soul to the devil, telling Tuta, you can't make a video? Lol.
ReplyDeleteWhy kill off loose ends and weak links in the company, when you can have the government do it for you through arrest?
ReplyDeleteIf shes paying "piso" then is she really guilty? Is she being forced to join them or else her family is gone? I mean I know shes not suppose to joing them and go to higher authorities but we all know in michoacan the cartel is the govt so maybe she had no choice. Once in LA where I live I was parked oustide my home and a gangster piunted his gun at me and asked for all my money and I gave him everything. He said if you call the police I know where you live and I know who yiur mom is and yiur sister so keep quiet and nobody gets hurt. Guess what I did? Nothing.
ReplyDeleteOf course shes "guilty" no one put a gun to her head, and she makes payments and complies to advance among other things . read slowly, she is to be congresswomen.
ReplyDeleteshe is complicit for personal gain, her entire family is. they have made several "deals"....go back and read
Someone kill la tuta please he is no good guy in all of this although he uploads his little videos thinking he is..
ReplyDeleteThey kill tuta and hell will break loose
Deletechivis gurrrrrrrrrl, this is another effort that separates you from the loser so called mexico org crime reporters of el norte.
ReplyDeleteI know you volunteer at bb because you love mexico, but just imagine if you were consulting for cnn and replacing that other chivis, chivis Wikipedia Longmire, why I venture to say Americanos would actually be informed. I don't care about typos and syntax, I focus on substance and you are the greatest. you manage to get close to major players, great sources, impeccable investigative capabilities. I think you know who I am, for I am one of those great sources. smile, smile, wink wink on
Y el americano apa? He was too seen with Senior Tuta but he went and declared, like that song that escapes from my mind but it goes something like, "it was'nt me" He is not being put in jail for being seen with Senior Tuta, is he?
ReplyDeletewell... say what you will about La Tuta, but he's doing more to fight political corruption with his vidoes than other federal agency. Kudo to La Tuta for increminating them crooked pieces of shit who have sworn to protect and serve the peope of michoacan...
ReplyDeleteIts becoming corrupt or death then they videotape them wtf and la tuta free like a bird
DeleteIt's a win win situation for tuta. He is smart by video taping the corrupt official. Kinda saving his own ass. He's worse than Chapo. Rats everyone else while the government lets them murder for information
DeleteStupid politicians. Find another line of work.
ReplyDeleteTYRONE
ReplyDeletedo you have a link? and THANKS
The power and influence Tuta/CT has is an eye opener ?
ReplyDeleteThe individuals appearing in these videos are not disenfranchised poor people with no voice,the individuals themselves have influence but look at the way she is asking questions and the way he is answering??Do the Alcalde/Alcaldesa and such like become victims of crime themselves?What options do they have?As Mexicans know,plata o plomo,silver or lead,,how many would choose death over life.
Un Vato appreciate the translation dude
Was she forced to have her friend killed? She is right in there thick as thieves with the bad guys.
ReplyDeleteTuta/CT flexing their muscle,they know exactly who and why he was killed,,and so does she.The mayor is an older woman who is scared in the face of these rats who would have no problem annihilating her whole family,no problem whatsoever.She is almost pleading,she is scared,,even if she wanted to do good for Mexicans,,these dirty bastards ruin everything,with threats,corruption and death.Don't ever feel sorry for these rats when they get shot or killed...
ReplyDelete12:46 PM
ReplyDeleteHuh,what?
Tuta isn't helping get rid of political corruption, he fosters it, coaxes it, nurtures it. Don't try to glamorize cartels people, the are scum through and through. What? You think they represent for the common people? Ha! Nobody represent for the poor, but themselves, unless they make it to somewhere north. Somewhere north of a southwest full of lazy, yet jealous pochos and anglos. Guys like Tuta are everything that's wrong with Mexico, killing off the lifeblood of ANY sign of opposition. Too much has changed as the cartels have come to represent the wealth and power of Mexico. Corruption is in EVERY tier and socioeconomic strata, so the more I hear people fighting class warfare, the more OUTDATED your thinking sounds. Maybe back in the day, before the business of drugs grew to what it is today, you could talk about things so simplistically. Corruption is the main problem, but not far behind are all the MISGUIDED moral crusaders (or maybe on purpose they dummy up). Don't piss down my back and then try to convince me it's raining! The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and everybody has their own excuse why their version of La Mordida is really not so bad, but when they ask, "What happened? Where did all these crazy killings come from", and "What happened to my beautiful Mexico?" Look no further. In the words of Jack Nicholson, "You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!" I'll bet if you could find out the real truth, you'd find out that ALL politicians in Mexico are corrupt or dead. The real fight isn't good versus evil, but these greedy bastards against those greedy bastards to decide who will be the next narco dictator.
ReplyDeleteThe corruption in michoacan started with robbing SICARTSA, to end up bankrupt and sold out for peanuts to arcelor-mittal, who now refuses to keep supporting their own achichincles, who then had to diversify victimizing the people, all of it supported with US weapons and gorillas supplied to the mexican government by the US...
Delete@12:02 when the weapons cross the border they are no longer US weapons they become Mexican weapons. How are the weapons getting into Mexico? Smuggled in by Mexican Americans and Mexican citizens. Don't blame the gringo.
Delete7:54 ATF and DEA are not mexicans!
DeletePerhaps, the caballeros didn't kill her son in law. It's very possible their drug rivals did him in. It's old news, that the drug rivals would do anything to destroy their rivals. Anything! (See and read older BB reports)
ReplyDeleteI'm hoping the victim of caballero violence took revenge on the corrupt politician's family. What did she expect? She collaborated with these criminals. Thousands of murders, extortions and kidnappings by the Caballereos Templerios were condoned by Michoacan politicians and police. A generation of traumatized Michoacanos. This crime wave is what ignited the CAM movement to take up arms and to drive out the criminals. I hope more of these dirty politicians suffer.
Peace,
ESB
@ 5:09 PM
ReplyDelete"Corruption is the main problem, but not far behind are all the MISGUIDED moral crusaders (or maybe on purpose they dummy up)"
What did you mean by that comment?
5:09 is trying to blame Dr Mireles for the betrayal of smurf and el ameriprrrt, two grown ups with very hairy arses who at the time helped the AD, until they decided to go with el castillo de cagada, showing their true colors...
DeleteMireles has kept going on with the program, he went on to gain more support from better people, with better vision than many of our well intended but short sighted and misguided BB commenters
Why would "Tony" be giving her a break on the piso IF he or the 'company' had nothing to do with it?
ReplyDelete11:35 they give her a break with the piso para callarle el hocico, to make her shut her yap...
DeleteLa tuta is giving all this information to the government in exchange for the freedom on his son. Corruption will never end.....
ReplyDelete@7:18pm
ReplyDelete"What did you mean by that comment?" I mean the CHRONIC lack of a unified affront against the cartel, with the exception of la marina. Instead, anyone who actually does any good, get's a permanent vacation, lead poisoning style, or they go off and lose their head, and if they're lucky, as in Dr. Mireles case, they get thrown in jail. Every movement that tries to make things better ends up sabotaged, infiltrated, and dismantled. Reality is the good guys lost, and every country in the world is run by one kind of bad guy or another. That's why when someone good like Mireles tries to fight these bastards and make life better for everyone, it's not long before they are surrounded by "friends", wolves in sheep's clothing, Judas Iscariots, misguided moral crusaders, who DEFINITELY do not have the same vision. They're like parasites and thieves, hired by the cartel, cia, enrique pena nieto, and eric holder, to keep everything business as usual.
@12:12am - "is trying to blame Dr Mireles" -
Look, your mom called and asked me to straighten you out. So turn of the computer, put your tinfoil hat away, TAKE A SHOWER (with soap), brush your teeth, and go the f--k to bed!
12:02 AM
ReplyDelete"diversify victimizing the people, all of it supported with US weapons and gorillas supplied to the mexican government by the US..."
What has this story to do with the US?
Ohhh Millie,what a hater
Who is Millie?
Deleteat 12:02 AM
ReplyDeleteChange the record,,please..
Peace
Stay classy, Mexico.
ReplyDelete9:03 how hard is it to learn a simple lesson ,, ,, ,, ,,
ReplyDeleteNO PEACE, NO QUARTER, NO PITY, AND NO MERCY...
--You do your thing and i'll do mine double dee, as long as it gets posted, and as long as it has not been fixed, i find it more rewarding and hopeful to keep pressing on with the root cause of the mexican problems, it is the least i can do for my dead and dying countrymen, on both sides of the border. Maybe you wanna go to the fawx news chanel? They are a courting mexican ss now there, but they don't change their record there either, maybe a double tap for you?
The PRI creed is YOU PAY tax and piso to the politicians in charge, and they kick some upstairs, not that the politicians pay back the expenses incurred by the narcs in buying or stealing an election for you, that was el chayo,el tio el kike and la puta tuta's mistake, worse of all trying to shake down miguel angel gallegos godoy, el traficante mas poderoso de tierra caliente, he can call on his big brothers, like epn, el chango mendez and el mencho...
ReplyDeleteWho is Millie?
ReplyDeleteThe one who is always hijacking stories with his unhinged hatred of the US.
September 3, 2014 at 7:54 AM
ReplyDelete"Smuggled in by Mexican Americans and Mexican citizens. Don't blame the gringo"
Dude you know that aint gonna fly?
@12:12am - "is trying to blame Dr Mireles" -
ReplyDeleteLike someone snitching you out to teacher,i don't know,,,this guy?
CIA, ATF, and DEA are NRA puppets, and do not represent the US, they represent US criminals from the US!
ReplyDeletegreat work
ReplyDelete