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| Mexico City tonight over 50k demonstrators calling for the resignation of EPN....and then what? |
...And the protest continues. This compilation of Mexican Artists present
a battle cry song with footage of various demonstrations and protests on behalf
of the 43 students kidnapped by police and who remain missing. The students
were taken into the night by police in Iguala, Guerrero, on September 26th, 2014.
On November 27th
the song will be available on iTunes, Spotify, and other platforms. The
proceeds will go to the parents of the missing students
Grito de Guerra
What are we going to
tell the people of this land, when they ask?
What we are going to say to the children of
the homeland, when they ask what happened here?
What happened here, what happened here? (¿Qué pasó aquí, qué pasó aquí?)
How are we going to explain all the spilled
blood, when they ask?
How are we going to explain those that have
disappeared?
The freedom of murderers?
The absolution of genocide?
Mexicans cry out,
The sounds of War
But there is no war,
There is no war
But murder, here it is
legal
Killing here is normal
Rap:
Sound the drums
Sound the dead
We are the mothers of the missing
We are the earth
The water, the wind
The voice that is calling
Finally A Revolution
ReplyDeleteIf he resigns the line from an old poem comes to mind; "one robin does not a spring make".
DeleteChivis, your caption on the photo asks "If he resigns, what then?"
As you know I have written a good bit on the Forum about my belief that his presidency will not survive until the 2018 elections, maybe not even until the 2015 midterm elections coming up in 6 months.
If he resigns it will be due to pressure and insistence from the "dinosaurs" that rule PRI or at least exert a great influence on the party. Their actions would be based on a belief that EPN has become a liability to them and his continued service would cause irreversible damage to the party.
Congress (which is also controlled by PRI) would select a replacement to serve out his term or until the next election.
So, would anything change and would his resignation be a good thing?
In my opinion it would be a good thing. If nothing else I think the people would realize they can change things. That would go a long way to shedding the apathy of the people (which you have correctly identified as the root cause of a lot of Mexico's problems). IMO that apathy grew out of generations believing that they had no voice and could not change anything anyway so they just worried about themselves and their own families.
EPN's resignation would only be a small step, but the people's newly found strength and power is a huge step toward a real democracy.. That kind of pressure might lead to a few more resignations by governors and maybe minister or 2.
If nothing else a resignation (every one will know he was forced out of office even if they claim it was for health reasons), may reduce the impunity that public officials currently enjoy in acting in a corrupt manner. They may think twice about accepting a bribe to look the other way or provide protection to criminals, or staling from the taxpayers by looting the treasury, or awarding that lucrative contract to their cousin. They may realize that the people are not stupid and that we have entered the 21st century where secrets are hard to keep in this age of information.
EPN's resignation might be just a small step, but it may be the first step in a long journey. At least I can hope.
thank you for your thoughtful reply!
DeleteI agree with much of what you write, especially about the mindset of people, how it developed.
I just am firm in my belief that as things are with that very mindset of the Mexican society, it matters little who "king" is. I believe great changes can only occur from the bottom up. Apathy must the exception and not the rule.
ps....I think you may be the only person who saw my little expression of frustration....like...yeah well then what? read my reply a little further down about the movement at 2:52AM. that is my real frustration. 99.9% of all these people expressing their anger I am sure do not know anything about the history of iguala, or the normalistas. and that 99% don't even know that 50 were killed that night in Iguala, not 43.
DeleteI had a one woman protest on social media with the picture of the #44 who was skinned alive. I asked how can anyone forget he was also taken that night. he is #44. I saw today two banners at the DF protest that said #44! I thought YES!!!!! someone is researching facts!
CHIVAAA!!! Ever wonder how may times leaders with the best intentions have asked themselves and others "where are the rest of us 'revolutionaries'...?"
ReplyDeleteSee, we are many and we are really anonymous, now faces are coming up putting it on the line, compassionate conservative RINOS are welcome...and their dos o tres centavos too...
Great song. Mexicanos al grito de guerra
ReplyDeletePlease follow the #RevolucionMexicana and #TodosSomosAyotzinapa. We're trying to build a movement. Please look out for more consular and embassy protests near you in the US in the near future. We need to keep pressure on EPN or else the murders will go unpunished.
ReplyDeleteI am assuming you are north of the border? Thank you for the effort. But honestly protests are nothing without a platform. All I see is resignation of EPN...which does nothing....and Justice for #43...what is justice? it must be defined.
DeleteDid you or any group realize that the Normal schools are being closed by an effort of Chong? why isn't that headlining a platform? demanding he back off and funding for the schools?
did you know that many of the missing 43 are children of the autodefensas of guerrero? throw support behind them.
did you know that normalistas are routinely murdered by police in Gro? and MIch? and Jal? do your research.
did you know that just under 400 bodies have been found in fosas in iguala in the past 2 years? demand to have an investigation.
did you know Activist Arturo Hernandez and 7 others were kidnapped by police in iguala and the mayor personally shot and killed hernandez in 2013? why isn't that an issue.
my complaint on the movement is that it is flimsy, trendy, uninformed. and as such is doomed.
readers of BB now about iguala. We have more than 50 articles in the past year, and were the only non regional reporting site that had an article about the attacks on normalistas of september 26th within 8 hrs of the attacks. But to know and see the uprising is frustrating, because it lacks roots, depth.....do people really want to know the truth, and create change? do not look from the top down....look at the man in the mirror..for the foe.
Excellent post
DeleteWell said keep it coming
DeleteThanks for the knowledge Chivis!
DeleteHas anyone associated with Borderland Beat ever thought of creating a narco wiki where all of the amazing information contained in this site's archives are compiled in biographies and histories? It would help enormously in putting the violence in context.
ReplyDeletewow that would be amazing! Perhaps someone could volunteer for such a worth while effort
DeleteNo revolution the border is open to the US, their is no hope in Mexico. wasting your time in Mexico come to the US. Their r job and help when you need it. Mexico is danger to your life, the cartels will kill you. I know u live in fear, pack your bags and get out. Now if u r the President Lindo with a 7 million $$$$$ house I would stay. Their is no future in Mexico, if u stay u will remain poor and in fear.The only rich r in government and drugs.no future for your kids. here free education. Get trained and find a job. I have helped my family get out. They r save and working.Most American r lazy there r plenty of jobs.
ReplyDeleteBy the way Obama's plan will take awhile but up here soon, the border cop will not send u back
Take back your country as your forefathers did
ReplyDeleteTotally agree the decent mexican people deserve better. It is obvious that the mexican goverment dont care or if it cared is powerless against orginized crime. How long are the decent folks of Mexico going to suffer?
DeleteThe usual template is being laid out to crush the movement: the protesters, according to EPN, are just trying to destabilise the state. Following this logic, the government will step in to stop anarchy and quell violence. Expect "terrorist attacks" to precede the government response. This movement affects the status quo just like the worry of Dr. Mireles running for government and the need to make him declare that he will not seek office.
ReplyDeleteIf the Mexican people don't revolt against their government now, there is no nope for them or their country. If they don't fight for something than they need to just sit back accept what is given to them.
ReplyDeleteWhat are the cartels doing while all the attention is on this? Why not rally like the against all crimes? So once they get answers to this situation, back to the old ways?
ReplyDeletewe should no a peacefull march in the U.S
ReplyDeleteThe people should posses the mansions of their leaders and turn them into mausoleums for the students if DNA conclusevly proves they are dead.
ReplyDeleteA revolution ... with no leader. A huge dragon with no head..What are they going to do replace one political puppet for another? I see a lack of leadership, who will make the changes for the people?
ReplyDeleteThis will be looked on in the future as the beginning of the end for the EPN administration! So sad for Mexico!
ReplyDeleteI would love to see the people get their country back. The corruption starts when waking up and driving the roads. Having to pay mordida to the swarms of police or vialidad. The aduanas taking money from the poor people in plain view at the border. City and government officials taking extortion money. The police, soldiers and more taking payoffs from the drug dealers and extorting the people of Mexico. Speeding and seatbelt tickets that cost about $80 to $90 that are given out to people that many make less then that per week. Beating and torturing people when they arrest them. Mexico is a country out of control. I have lost to many friends killed just for owning a business, for not wanting to pay the extortion because it was getting too high, or not playing ball with the government or criminal gangs. Taco stands and business being forced into selling drugs under the fear of death. People having their land and houses and business stolen by greedy government officials and criminal groups. Dishonest judges, and attorneys and a system that has imprisoned a whopping 40% of innocent people. The list goes on and on and on. Mexico has many absolutely wonderful people, and the country is amazing. It could become a paradise for everyone. I see they are going to let Mireles out. But only if he does not run in the election in 2015. They want to even control who the people can vote for, so they can keep control. They need to vote someone honest in, that can make Mireles the vice president without running for office. Then give him the reigns to control the country.
ReplyDeleteEPN IS DONE
ReplyDeleteWe need to burn down any infrastructure that represents government. Any building, any car, or house of a politician. We have been robbed blind for so many years by these thugs in suits. Its pay back time!
ReplyDelete50 thousand two months later is amazing.I bet the mayor and his wife would never have believed this could happen.
ReplyDeleteMore amazing is the fact that she could walk... and soon, more amazing is the fact that most properties and bussinesses that they own by stealing from the mexican people and their little business they had with the cartel will most likely not get confiscated and will remain in the hands of their family....did you know about that?
DeleteA chill ran through my body as I watched this video.
ReplyDeleteThe 43 students is a political scam made by the anti PRI politicians that now look bad because since the PRI came back into office they have been rounding up cartels and putting them away, they are scared of the PRI once again gaining control , the PAN screwed up mexico calderon and fox they are in hiding in the usa they sold out, the 43 students are in hiding I don't want another pan in office to make things worst
ReplyDeleteNice pri propaganda
DeleteA troll trying to change the perspective of things gtfo.
DeleteEPN is that you? Nice try!
DeleteREVOLUCION!
ReplyDeleteSOY MEXICANO, IMPORTED TO AMERICA, MY HEART IS WITH MY PEOPLE AND I SEE THE PAIN IN THEIR HEARTS, BUT NOW I SEE A UNIFIED MOVEMENT WITH SO MUCH PAIN AND ANGUISH THAT DRIVES THEIR SOULS TO MAKE A CHANGE EVEN WHILE DEATH KNOCKS ON THEIR DOORS. CHINGEN AL PINCHE GOVERNO, THEY SOLD OUT OUR PEOPLE!!! FOR A PIECE OF PAPER THAT THEY PUT MORE VALUE THAN LIFES!!!!!!! GUERRA, GUERRA, GUERRA, GUERRA, WAR, WAR WAR!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteWe need a Wlilliam Wallace. FREEDOM!!
ReplyDeletehe didn't speak Spanish
DeleteSpanish Subtitles?
DeleteQueremos 43 vivos y 100 millones libres de gobiernos lacras.
ReplyDeleteAlaver gaviotas
ReplyDeleteI may be wrong for what I am going to say but let's be honest here. Enough is enough, citizens of Mexico need to start arming terrorist groups against government buildings, and start wrecking everything that is affiliated with the PRI,PAN,and PRD and its political connections. I believe to make a real change you need to put fear into the government, politicians and the president. If well organized terrorists organizations start initiating these attacks they will think twice before trying to pull this type of stuff on its citizens. I've always said this for years but people have called me crazy. Bomb everything . There are more citizens than police and millitary. You need to put fear into the government , I believe this is the only way to achieve this. They may lack resources but there are other ways to destroy government buildings. They need to target the children of the politicians and the ones who are stealing so much money and selling them out.
ReplyDeleteBring back Pablo Escobar!
DeleteYou are exactly right. We need to respond with the same venom that politicians use on the Mexican society. This is a war and we need to put fear in their hearts. Blood needs to flow, no other way.
Deletethese kids dont understand that the "pueblo", are just peones, a hindrance if you may, to the royal dynasty of the PRI; thank god for the internet. at least the rest of the world can see mexicos' reality.
ReplyDeleteThats why pena nieto wanted to censor the internet at the get-go of his term, he knew that it was a threat to him, and all the devils and demons that would start crawling out from their 12 years of hiding.
ReplyDeleteMr. Pena Nieta kindly asks...Mr, Moriera, please step down,,, ooops, Mr.Pena Nieto, its your turn now.
ReplyDeleteCOME ON BB! ONLY 2 ARTICLES IN 2 DAYS, BOTH CHIVIS?
ReplyDeleteSHE IS GONE IN LITTLE OVER A WEEK!
Would be better if there was very little to report on. Maybe some day. Maybe just a burglary or something. Then you could just go to the local news.
DeleteOn another note the people were protesting heavily here in Chihuahua, Chihuahua yesterday over the massacre. They were protesting with a large presence at the governors palace in El Centro.
Vladimir putin va mandar armamento tengan fe!
ReplyDeletehttp://youtu.be/9XxGDf56xoQ
ReplyDeleteWell all they do is scream and yell...it would be impressive to see 50 thousand armed and shooting at the mexican government. All they do is sing and talk.....
ReplyDeleteUn govierno socialista bajo lopez obrador y apollado por rusia y a mandar a los capitalistas incluyendo narcos y los aparatos que los apoyan pan y pri y la deA a chingar a su madre rusia apoya golpe de estado con armame.to y tropas si fuese nesesario! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)!
ReplyDeleteI have a glimmer of hope for Mexico tonight. The people of the country are finally speaking out and fighting for their god given rights against this pure evil. Even more hope in the inspiring words I read here every night,
ReplyDeleteChina IS taking care, russia would not want to usurp china in mexico right now, china is also waaay deep in the US, by way of some deeply hungry pocket US politician traitors,
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