It has been a week now since Chapo Guzmans escape from Mexico's "super-max" prison. The following story was published by teleSur a couple of days after his escape.
I did not publish it then because I knew there would be a myriad of theories, speculations (some wild, some plausible) and reports about what happened, how he escaped, and where he went after he bid the Altiplano prison "Adios".
I did not expect that he would be captured very rapidly, but I thought maybe there was an off chance of some hard verifiable facts might surface. That hasn't happened so I am posting this account which is in part based on an interview with a purported insider in the Sinaloa Cartel, who identifies himself as "Julio ‘El Tio’ Martinez, an 'administrator' who works with an emerging operator of El Chapo," (whatever that means).
"El Tio Martinez" related in the interview that President Pena Nieto sanctioned the "escape" and that “El Chapo is already in Jesus Maria (in the mountainous region of the Sierras which has long been believed where Chapo and Mayo have hidden for years) with his wives and children. El Mayo and Aquiles are also there. El Mayo also has family in Jesus Maria. They are partying. I heard (Rafael) Caro Quintero was also going to be there.”
Who knows? Maybe El Tio is telling the truth.
Regardless of the truthfulness of El Tio's tale, the story has some interesting new facts and raises some new questions that have not been raised in other media stories.
Borderland Beat is not presenting this story as confirmed facts as much of it is impossible to verify at this time.. Above the Title and the byline, telSur even classifies it as "opinion>article".
“El Chapo is already in
Jesus Maria with his wives and children. El Mayo and Aquiles are also
there. El Mayo also has family in Jesus Maria. They are partying. I
heard (Rafael) Caro Quintero was also going to be there.”
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Julio ‘El Tio’ Martinez
told teleSUR, “El Chapo is already in Jesus Maria with his wives and
children. El Mayo and Aquiles are also there. El Mayo also has family in
Jesus Maria. They are partying. I heard (Rafael) Caro Quintero was also
going to be there.”
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By: Olivier Acuña
President Peña Nieto Sanctioned Chapo Guzman's Escape
UPDATED: It’s all a farce. “El Chapo is already in Jesus Maria with his wives and children,” an associate of the cartel boss told teleSUR.
It should be of no surprise that Mexican drug lord and leader of the world’s most powerful Sinaloa narcotrafficking cartel, Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman, has escaped jail under dubious circumstances for the second time, and there is strong reason to believe that President Enrique Peña Nieto and his government allowed him to leave jail as part of a negotiation that apparently included the release in 2013 of Rafael Caro Quintero, another powerful Sinaloan drug trafficker.
The DEA knew El Chapo would escape and many experts on drug cartels agree that what is surprising is how quickly he has been allowed to flee.
Since his arrest in February 2014 and after then Attorney General Jesus Murillo's statement that El Chapo would not be extradited to the United States for at least 300 years, it was obvious to many that the government was planning something. There was no doubt in the minds of many that El Chapo would soon leave jail.
It should be of no surprise that Mexican drug lord and leader of the world’s most powerful Sinaloa narcotrafficking cartel, Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman, has escaped jail under dubious circumstances for the second time, and there is strong reason to believe that President Enrique Peña Nieto and his government allowed him to leave jail as part of a negotiation that apparently included the release in 2013 of Rafael Caro Quintero, another powerful Sinaloan drug trafficker.
The DEA knew El Chapo would escape and many experts on drug cartels agree that what is surprising is how quickly he has been allowed to flee.
Since his arrest in February 2014 and after then Attorney General Jesus Murillo's statement that El Chapo would not be extradited to the United States for at least 300 years, it was obvious to many that the government was planning something. There was no doubt in the minds of many that El Chapo would soon leave jail.
And there is no reason not to believe that President Enrique Peña Nieto himself is involved in some way with his “release” or escape as Mexican authorities are calling it.
Former President Vicente Fox has been said to have been complicit with the drug trafficker's “escape” in 2001.
Last year, Phil Jordan, former head of the DEA in Texas, told Univision and other news outlets, that the U.S. government had conclusive evidence that El Chapo had financed President Enrique Peña Nieto’s presidential campaign. He also said there were documents that proved Guzman had paid former President Vicente Fox and his National Action Party hundreds of millions of dollars for protection and later for his release from jail in 2001, which then was also said to be an escape.
Former President Vicente Fox has been said to have been complicit with the drug trafficker's “escape” in 2001.
Last year, Phil Jordan, former head of the DEA in Texas, told Univision and other news outlets, that the U.S. government had conclusive evidence that El Chapo had financed President Enrique Peña Nieto’s presidential campaign. He also said there were documents that proved Guzman had paid former President Vicente Fox and his National Action Party hundreds of millions of dollars for protection and later for his release from jail in 2001, which then was also said to be an escape.
Jordan added that Guzman continued paying now ruling PRI party millions of dollars for protection and said that El Chapo’s arrest in February 2014, more than likely was the result of a negotiation, which clearly suggests that Peña Nieto, the PRI and federal authorities are in on the drug lord’s second escape.
To begin with, it is too much of a coincidence that Peña Nieto is out of the country when Chapo Guzman leaves the Almoloya de Juarez jail in Toluca, some 30 miles north of Mexico City, which is considered to be one of the most secure prisons in all of Mexico. About 159 military personnel traveled with Peña Nieto to France.
Another factor to ponder is that “maximum security” jails in Mexico have at least one underground 10-meter-high wall all around the prison that is more than 20 inches thick and reinforced with a massive net of steel bars. If anybody attempts to break through this wall, prison officials are immediately alerted. (DD. I have read other reports that this wall goes 10 meters underground also)
Why has nobody mentioned this fact? Yet another important detail is that prisoners in these jails never leave their cells without at least a two-guard escort. Another detail no news media outlet has mentioned.
To begin with, it is too much of a coincidence that Peña Nieto is out of the country when Chapo Guzman leaves the Almoloya de Juarez jail in Toluca, some 30 miles north of Mexico City, which is considered to be one of the most secure prisons in all of Mexico. About 159 military personnel traveled with Peña Nieto to France.
Another factor to ponder is that “maximum security” jails in Mexico have at least one underground 10-meter-high wall all around the prison that is more than 20 inches thick and reinforced with a massive net of steel bars. If anybody attempts to break through this wall, prison officials are immediately alerted. (DD. I have read other reports that this wall goes 10 meters underground also)
Why has nobody mentioned this fact? Yet another important detail is that prisoners in these jails never leave their cells without at least a two-guard escort. Another detail no news media outlet has mentioned.
It's still unclear whether he escaped from his cell or the shower area, but there is no doubt that President Peña Nieto sanctioned the order for Chapo's “escape”. It’s so obvious and so absurd, that nobody is going to believe he is that “stupid.”
“But of course the president knows about it, but nobody is going to dare say anything. They’re all in on it. They must believe that nobody is going to blame the president and his staff directly. They simply would find it hard to believe they are that stupid,” Julio ‘El Tio’ Martinez, an “administrator” who works with an emerging operator of El Chapo, told teleSUR in an interview early Sunday. He asked to be named only as Julio ‘El Tio’ Martinez.
“Let me give you a prime example of the impunity and the protection we enjoy. Everybody, newspapers, authorities, the opposition … everybody!, absolutely everybody knows (Ismael) ‘El Mayo’ (Zambada) owns the largest milk producer in the north of Mexico which is the Santa Monica.
It’s been operating for decades and has grown incredibly, but do they (the government) do anything to stop them, to seize the company … hell no! They wouldn’t dare,” Martinez said.
“And again, what is El Mayo’s son (Vicente) saying in the U.S.? That he smuggled drugs into the U.S. with the permission of the DEA and he hasn’t said who he and his father pay off in Mexico … not yet at least.”
Vicente Zambada, 40, was arrested in 2009 and quickly extradited to Chicago in the U.S., where early last year his lawyers announced Zambada could not be prosecuted by the United States, because he had been secretly working as an informant for the Drug Enforcement Administration.
Zambada even smuggled thousands of tons of cocaine across the border. The DEA had guaranteed Zambada immunity in exchange for intelligence about the drug trade in Mexico.
Chapo’s Arrest Last Year
Those who live in Sinaloa know exactly where Chapo Guzman hangs out and how he rolls. Him and his buddy Ismael “El Mayo” Zambada, another of Mexico's most powerful drug lords, do openly drive around the capital of Sinaloa, Culiacan, but they usually “hide out” in a vast mountainous region that begins in Jesus Maria, about 50 minutes north of Culiacan, and all the way up to Badiraguato and Santiago de los Caballeros.
They control that area and cultivate hundreds if not thousands of hectares of marijuana there. They also have strips for landing, loading and sending of Cessna's packed with weed and cocaine toward the border with the U.S.
There, they enjoy federal protection. The Mexican army patrols the area for them and, of course, they pay them well. And only in cases where more land is being used for marihuana cultivation than reported to authorities, will the military use helicopters to fumigate the unreported plantations.
Very rarely will someone dare to talk about these arrangements, but in Sinaloa and especially up in the mountains everybody knows.
Chapo Is Home Partying With Family and Friends Julio ‘El Tio’ Martinez told teleSUR, “El Chapo is already in Jesus Maria with his wives and children. El Mayo and Aquiles are also there. El Mayo also has family in Jesus Maria. They are partying. I heard (Rafael) Caro Quintero was also going to be there.”
The obvious question was, “An Italian journalist and writer named Roberto Saviano – famous for his book Gomorra, in which he exposes the Italian mob, has said in New York that El Mayo and El Chapo were at loggerheads"...
Martinez didn't even allow for the question to be completed: “Bullshit. That's is not true. They are very tight. They are compadres and that is by no means true.”
Saviano also said Caro Quintero was not operating anymore. This man was detained about 30 years ago in connection with the abduction, torture and homicide of DEA agent Enrique Camarena Salazar and was allowed to walk out of jail in August 2013 in a measure highly criticized by the United States, whose authorities were calling for his extradition.
The official Mexican explanation was that a technical-legal mistake had paved the way for his release. But after a barrage of criticism and condemnation, Mexican authorities released a new order for his arrest.
“That is also bullshit. Caro Quintero has never stopped operating. His family, brothers, nephews, cousins, uncles, close friends, took on many responsibilities, but the Quintero's are very powerful people and have a wide net of family members across the country and in the United States that work for him.
So, yes, Saviano is full of shit,” Martinez said.
Many spoke of El Chapo not being in control of the Sinaloa cartel, “But it doesn't matter if they jail them, they have brothers, sons and others that have been taking care of business for years anyways. I mean it's stupid for anybody to think that it's all over just because they have detained a leader. They are so powerful, they have paid off so many politicians and public servants, even governors and presidents, that their enterprises continue on even if they are killed.
There is Chapo's brother, for instance, Arturo, who hardly nobody talks about and he is in charge of large parts of the business,” Martinez added.
This information holds even in the case of the Tijuana cartel of the Arellano Felix brothers, who are related to Miguel Angel Felix Gallardo, who is still in jail, but is still a very powerful drug trafficker in Mexico.
“So, as you know, the Arellano Felix brothers are either in jail or dead, but their dynasty lives on and it is controlled by Erendira, their sister and this will continue on for generations,” he said.
Something else to think about is the fact that one of his many sons, Ivan Guzman tweeted in May that his father would soon leave jail. Would he dare do that unless he was 100 percent sure it was going to happen? Wouldn’t it be also be prudent to believe that Guzman would have to have permission to leave jail from the highest levels of the Peña Nieto administration?
The King of the Tunnels
Amado Carrillo Fuentes exploited air travel winning over most Colombian cartels. He would transport hundreds of tons of cocaine by air. At one time he had a 747 flying back and forth from Colombia to Mexico with up to a thousand tons at a time. He became the “Lord of the Skies.”
Well, El Chapo should be called the “King of Tunnels” as he made the Sinaloa cartel powerful by hiring top level architects and engineers to build tunnels across the U.S. border from Mexico throughout many cities on the line dividing both countries. You cannot even begin to imagine the huge amounts of cocaine, meth, marijuana and even people being smuggled on a daily basis through these tunnels.
“El Chapo came up with this idea after talking to engineers and architects and this is how he and his people have become so rich. And of course all level of government and the DEA are in on it.
Don't doubt this for a second,” Martinez said. “I've been present in negotiations with DEA agents, Mexican politicians, federal police and high-level military persons. There all in on it. They all profit, but when it comes to putting someone in jail it is always the person they call 'drug trafficker' who goes to jail. But they are all drug traffickers, even the president, because they all profit from the business.
However, El Chapo and El Mayo know this and that is the agreement. They're o.k. with it, because they are rich and powerful and their families are set for generations.”
Negotiated Arrest
El Chapo never goes anywhere without at least 80 to 120 heavily armed men guarding him. Federal police and even the Mexican army deploy peripheral protection wherever he is. They set up roadblocks to check everyone entering the area where the person they are protecting is to make sure that nobody nor any armed group enters that zone.
“Whenever you see federal police and military roadblocks, at least in Sinaloa, you know there is a drug lord nearby they are protecting,” El Tio assured.
Taking this into consideration, it would be naive to believe he was arrested without some kind of negotiation with the highest level of government. One good explanation is that due to Caro Quintero's release, Peña Nieto's government was under extreme pressure from Washington so they needed to do something to relieve that crisis.
Therefore they talked to El Chapo and asked him if he would let himself be detained temporarily. Saviano talked about a negotiation as well, but he then said he thought El Mayo had turned him in.
But in the end, El Chapo's arrest served to deviate the world's attention from the Caro Quintero issue. And despite assurances that El Chapo would never again escape from prison, he is now, according to authorities, nowhere to be found.
Perhaps, though, authorities didn't lie because more than likely he did not actually escape. Rather, he was permitted to build a tunnel so it would seem he did escape instead of them letting him walk out the main door as he did in 2001.
“But of course the president knows about it, but nobody is going to dare say anything. They’re all in on it. They must believe that nobody is going to blame the president and his staff directly. They simply would find it hard to believe they are that stupid,” Julio ‘El Tio’ Martinez, an “administrator” who works with an emerging operator of El Chapo, told teleSUR in an interview early Sunday. He asked to be named only as Julio ‘El Tio’ Martinez.
“Let me give you a prime example of the impunity and the protection we enjoy. Everybody, newspapers, authorities, the opposition … everybody!, absolutely everybody knows (Ismael) ‘El Mayo’ (Zambada) owns the largest milk producer in the north of Mexico which is the Santa Monica.
It’s been operating for decades and has grown incredibly, but do they (the government) do anything to stop them, to seize the company … hell no! They wouldn’t dare,” Martinez said.
“And again, what is El Mayo’s son (Vicente) saying in the U.S.? That he smuggled drugs into the U.S. with the permission of the DEA and he hasn’t said who he and his father pay off in Mexico … not yet at least.”
Vicente Zambada, 40, was arrested in 2009 and quickly extradited to Chicago in the U.S., where early last year his lawyers announced Zambada could not be prosecuted by the United States, because he had been secretly working as an informant for the Drug Enforcement Administration.
Zambada even smuggled thousands of tons of cocaine across the border. The DEA had guaranteed Zambada immunity in exchange for intelligence about the drug trade in Mexico.
Chapo’s Arrest Last Year
Those who live in Sinaloa know exactly where Chapo Guzman hangs out and how he rolls. Him and his buddy Ismael “El Mayo” Zambada, another of Mexico's most powerful drug lords, do openly drive around the capital of Sinaloa, Culiacan, but they usually “hide out” in a vast mountainous region that begins in Jesus Maria, about 50 minutes north of Culiacan, and all the way up to Badiraguato and Santiago de los Caballeros.
They control that area and cultivate hundreds if not thousands of hectares of marijuana there. They also have strips for landing, loading and sending of Cessna's packed with weed and cocaine toward the border with the U.S.
There, they enjoy federal protection. The Mexican army patrols the area for them and, of course, they pay them well. And only in cases where more land is being used for marihuana cultivation than reported to authorities, will the military use helicopters to fumigate the unreported plantations.
Chapo Is Home Partying With Family and Friends Julio ‘El Tio’ Martinez told teleSUR, “El Chapo is already in Jesus Maria with his wives and children. El Mayo and Aquiles are also there. El Mayo also has family in Jesus Maria. They are partying. I heard (Rafael) Caro Quintero was also going to be there.”
The obvious question was, “An Italian journalist and writer named Roberto Saviano – famous for his book Gomorra, in which he exposes the Italian mob, has said in New York that El Mayo and El Chapo were at loggerheads"...
Martinez didn't even allow for the question to be completed: “Bullshit. That's is not true. They are very tight. They are compadres and that is by no means true.”
Saviano also said Caro Quintero was not operating anymore. This man was detained about 30 years ago in connection with the abduction, torture and homicide of DEA agent Enrique Camarena Salazar and was allowed to walk out of jail in August 2013 in a measure highly criticized by the United States, whose authorities were calling for his extradition.
The official Mexican explanation was that a technical-legal mistake had paved the way for his release. But after a barrage of criticism and condemnation, Mexican authorities released a new order for his arrest.
“That is also bullshit. Caro Quintero has never stopped operating. His family, brothers, nephews, cousins, uncles, close friends, took on many responsibilities, but the Quintero's are very powerful people and have a wide net of family members across the country and in the United States that work for him.
So, yes, Saviano is full of shit,” Martinez said.
Many spoke of El Chapo not being in control of the Sinaloa cartel, “But it doesn't matter if they jail them, they have brothers, sons and others that have been taking care of business for years anyways. I mean it's stupid for anybody to think that it's all over just because they have detained a leader. They are so powerful, they have paid off so many politicians and public servants, even governors and presidents, that their enterprises continue on even if they are killed.
There is Chapo's brother, for instance, Arturo, who hardly nobody talks about and he is in charge of large parts of the business,” Martinez added.
This information holds even in the case of the Tijuana cartel of the Arellano Felix brothers, who are related to Miguel Angel Felix Gallardo, who is still in jail, but is still a very powerful drug trafficker in Mexico.
“So, as you know, the Arellano Felix brothers are either in jail or dead, but their dynasty lives on and it is controlled by Erendira, their sister and this will continue on for generations,” he said.
The King of the Tunnels
Amado Carrillo Fuentes exploited air travel winning over most Colombian cartels. He would transport hundreds of tons of cocaine by air. At one time he had a 747 flying back and forth from Colombia to Mexico with up to a thousand tons at a time. He became the “Lord of the Skies.”
Well, El Chapo should be called the “King of Tunnels” as he made the Sinaloa cartel powerful by hiring top level architects and engineers to build tunnels across the U.S. border from Mexico throughout many cities on the line dividing both countries. You cannot even begin to imagine the huge amounts of cocaine, meth, marijuana and even people being smuggled on a daily basis through these tunnels.
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| Even though he is short, his motorcycle in the tunnel didn't have training wheels. It was on rails. |
“El Chapo came up with this idea after talking to engineers and architects and this is how he and his people have become so rich. And of course all level of government and the DEA are in on it.
Don't doubt this for a second,” Martinez said. “I've been present in negotiations with DEA agents, Mexican politicians, federal police and high-level military persons. There all in on it. They all profit, but when it comes to putting someone in jail it is always the person they call 'drug trafficker' who goes to jail. But they are all drug traffickers, even the president, because they all profit from the business.
However, El Chapo and El Mayo know this and that is the agreement. They're o.k. with it, because they are rich and powerful and their families are set for generations.”
Negotiated Arrest
El Chapo never goes anywhere without at least 80 to 120 heavily armed men guarding him. Federal police and even the Mexican army deploy peripheral protection wherever he is. They set up roadblocks to check everyone entering the area where the person they are protecting is to make sure that nobody nor any armed group enters that zone.
“Whenever you see federal police and military roadblocks, at least in Sinaloa, you know there is a drug lord nearby they are protecting,” El Tio assured.
Taking this into consideration, it would be naive to believe he was arrested without some kind of negotiation with the highest level of government. One good explanation is that due to Caro Quintero's release, Peña Nieto's government was under extreme pressure from Washington so they needed to do something to relieve that crisis.
Therefore they talked to El Chapo and asked him if he would let himself be detained temporarily. Saviano talked about a negotiation as well, but he then said he thought El Mayo had turned him in.
But in the end, El Chapo's arrest served to deviate the world's attention from the Caro Quintero issue. And despite assurances that El Chapo would never again escape from prison, he is now, according to authorities, nowhere to be found.
Perhaps, though, authorities didn't lie because more than likely he did not actually escape. Rather, he was permitted to build a tunnel so it would seem he did escape instead of them letting him walk out the main door as he did in 2001.
UPDATED: It’s all a
farce. “El Chapo is already in Jesus Maria with his wives and children,”
an associate of the cartel boss told teleSUR.
It should be of no surprise that Mexican drug lord and leader of the
world’s most powerful Sinaloa narcotrafficking cartel, Joaquin “El
Chapo” Guzman, has escaped jail under dubious circumstances for the
second time, and there is strong reason to believe that President
Enrique Peña Nieto and his government allowed him to leave jail as part
of a negotiation that apparently included the release in 2013 of Rafael
Caro Quintero, another powerful Sinaloan drug trafficker.
The DEA new El Chapo would escape and many experts on drug cartels agree
that what is surprising is how quickly he has been allowed to flee.
Since his arrest in February 2014 and after then Attorney General Jesus
Murillo's statement that El Chapo would not be extradited to the United
States for at least 300 years, it was obvious to many that the
government was planning something. There was no doubt in the minds of
many that El Chapo would soon leave jail.
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President Peña Nieto Sanctioned Chapo Guzman's Escape
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By: Olivier Acuña
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Mexico leave him out give up already u already showed the world that u are a good for nothing government the country and citizens are great.
ReplyDeleteCitizens of mexico stand up and fight what is the worse that can happen there is nothing to lose and everything to gain
I mean it sounds right to me. Even if it isn't true I believe it. So many people get paid but I wonder how they get paid. It's not like el Chapo sends it in to there bank accounts every two weeks. Must be threats and 300k for two years
ReplyDeleteDo you think El Chapo is planning the death of the Margarito and Pedro Flores + their family?
ReplyDeleteChapo wanted the Beltran plaza. Chapo convinced Mayo to betray Beltran. La Barbie tried to go indepedent all he did was betray Beltran for Chapo and he became a target soon after. The Flores where a midst a cartel war and cooperated with the Federal services.
DeleteTheir cooperation ruined Chapos and Mayo relationship. Why? Because ZAMBADAS sons are incarcerated due to Chapo deciding to start a war with the Beltran gang. So for Mayo its Chapo at fault for talking about blowing up federal buildings and getting his sons caught up juat for backing up Chapo. Chapo lost influence and territory not his sons over the Flores.
That witness protection program is no good. I'm willing to bet the hitmen are waiting. There are multiple trials going on and slaughtering their family could inculp their organized crime conspiracy further.
Vicente talked about weapons of mass destruction with the flores twins, recorded...
DeleteThe flores twins were working with the DEA who had caught them red handed, after el chapo and the beltranes had problem...
--and what started that problem was arturo beltran leyva blaming el chapo for the arrest of his brother alfredo, who said in person that el chapo was not to be blamed...
--el barbas intransigence and stupidity did not let him see behind his back, genaro garcia luna had it for el barbas ass for threatening him, and for the business he handled, which ended up in his hands and peña nieto's the gobernador of the estado de mexico when el barbas fell..
--Nobody instigates betrayals and murderous backstabbings like the mexican rich, politicians and "business owners", just think, who ended up with all the marbes?
--WHO THE BOSS, THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF, THE PRETTY BOY OF THE VULTURE CAPITALISTA WORLD? atracomulca boss of the cartel de las lomas, peña nieto, that who, all along...that chilango pickpocket...
9:46 chapo has kids just as well as mayo. It's just the fact that they got caught n chapo kids didn't. Serafin was caught crossing border. If ur name has zambada in it y take chance of getting caught. That's his fault not chapo. Vincente was extradited but hey u in the game ur gonna get jailed. U talk like u hang out with them but in reality u know nothing but what u have read on the internet. None of us have any clue what is really go in on in the sinaloa cartel
Delete5:52 why don't you illustrate us? Since you know them all so well...
DeleteAll the statements above can be found on BB, or other places, el mayo also worked with amado carrillo until CF had problems with el chapo and requested chapo's head, way before the blo parted ways over chapo's betrayals, I do not like for tonto to change the story line just to sow division for the hell of it...
Wow wow wow very interesting article.Of course something we all suspected.
ReplyDelete2:05am. Whether all of this is true or not! Grazie for posting it. So much of it sounds like pure common sense. Since the day he either escaped or was allowed to leave,I have been asking myself the same questions. In my humble opinion,I firmly believe a deal was made for him to be captured and at the same time his escape was planned! All it takes for a mass murdering drug trafficker to pull this id a ton money and corrupt governmental officials...in Mexico and the US. As many on BB have stated,as long as there are people in the US,the cartels will happily supply it. God Bless the innocents in Mexico!
ReplyDeleteJesus maria in sierra? where this, map please..
ReplyDeletehttp://www.maplandia.com/mexico/sinaloa/culiacan/jesus-maria/
DeleteIt's his ranch. Won't find that on any government map.
DeleteAs you drive north from Culiacán. Jesus Maria is about an hour from the Sinaloan capital and is the start of the sierra. Jesús Maria is a strategic place because there's a damn there that after crossing it on a boat you can go further up toward Badiraguato and the Golden Triangle. https://animalpolitico.com/estados/jesus-maria-poblado-visitaban-autoridades-vivia-ovidio-guzman#:~:text=La%20localidad%20forma%20parte%20de,Limones%2C%20Los%20Girasoles%20y%20Paredones.
Deletehttps://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/80310+Jes%C3%BAs+Mar%C3%ADa,+Sinaloa,+Mexico/@25.1337581,-107.9498417,9.5z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x86bce5d834522975:0xffb8bfeb4ba02717!8m2!3d25.0897222!4d-107.4508333!16s%2Fg%2F11sd_3gm9x?entry=ttu
DeleteDamn errrthing on lock sinaloa will kontrol
ReplyDeleteThat is exactly the truth and circumstances as it exists and most Sinaloan with any generational history and relationships with politicians and political families know this. Well written. The only error in my opinion is that Erendira is of any significance to the overall distribution of anything, other than minor rackets and managing debts and assets that her spoiled egotistical brothers generated after Padrino assigned Baja Sur to the family of flamboyant nacos - but in hindsight even Padrino knows this was a bad business decision.
ReplyDeleteThe road goes on forever but the party never ends.
regardless of this being opinion > article it's crazy & if it's true well damn, nothing that was unexpected lol
ReplyDeleteBusiness will keep going, as long as you got you're Mexican government and the biggest cartel of all good Ole American government ... Chapo I wouldn't worry much keeping running! They gonna come up with a game soon called "Where's chapo?"
ReplyDeleteThey kinda do already
DeleteThey just call the book
Where's Waldo
Books are needed on how to escape from prison, without official help, for dummies
Deleteestas son mentiras - estos tipos no estan de fiesta - son de negosio - estan bien escondidos - y se estan preparando para los golpes fuertes que vienen - mas el tunnel (ap) no lo invento el chapo - lo financio amado y la idea fue de un cliente de unos hermanos de ap - y segue trabajando el otro tunnel en dougals por mas de 20 anos - la idea que estos se la llevan bien hogados y drogados es para los pendejos
ReplyDeleteque no los conocen son bien vergas para durar en estos negocios
Eso si......los tuneles...estan en texas tambien...ahi corridos bien Viejos de los broncos de reynosa que hablan de estos tuneles para pasar illegales..desde 1970s te imaginas ahora.
DeleteEl tunel fie del chapo, amado en ese tiempo era el senor y se enojo con chapo por que no le pidio permiso chapo le dijo que le avisaba para que lo usaran todos cuando le reclamo le dijo eso qur no le pedia permiso solo le convidaba a usarlo y esto enojo a amado aso que chapo fue el dueno del tunel k hiba a douglas.
Delete@2:59 si pues hay muchos tuneles en tejas mas grandes ,todo como el estado de tejas son tan chingones esos tuneles que hasta bajo el rio bravo los construyen
Delete@7:58 AM .. Ademas de estar bien viejitos pa' rumbiar.. "It's all good," said the crackhead. Everything's groceries but the grits, CIA + DEA + MEX GOV = Drug Empire. The politics of Chapo's being "off the grid," so to speak, to then, rise from the ashes like the Phoenix, twice, is "puro Chapo." Tunnels are nothing new in this game, the Lord of the Skies is due his credit, also. Who knows how este bochinchero will play out, but the Alamo ain't over, my friends. VIVA MEXICO! Haga le pues!
Deletesí que celebran todos sus triunfos, te lo digo yo que estuve en muchas de sus fiestas en la sierra sinaloense, en culiacán, en tijuana. Despierta idiota.
Delete"Rather, he was permitted to build a tunnel so it would seem he did escape" Exactly what ive been tryna say!
ReplyDeleteREALLY BB...ALL THIS BULL BECAUSE "AN ASSOCIATE" SAID SO? this was published a week ago. telsur is tabloid.
ReplyDeleteThey're all just adding more to his fame...
ReplyDeleteJimmy Hoffa and Elvis are there too!
he got out just in time to throw the mex/tico game!
ReplyDeleteBS Article
ReplyDeleteas it turns out, it was not BS, righ?
Deleteescuchan muchos corridos
ReplyDeletejajajajaj. todo lo que dije en mi artículo resultó cierto, ¿verdad?
DeleteLa gente de la Sierra. Pinches gringos talking shit about Mexicans and education
ReplyDeleteJesus Maria is not in the Sierra
ReplyDeleteMayo does not have family there
Chapos ex wife relatives live there
Arturo Guzman in charge of large parts of the business?unless it's his spirit...Arturo was killed in almoloya jail many years ago
3 of the biggest capos are not going to party like teenagers & expose themselves to celebrate an escape
Another fake interview like the mini lic, ovidio among others
Yes, Jesus Maria is the start of the sierra and yes, Mayo does have family in Jesus Maria. I was there on several occasions and met his sons and the sons of El Chapo who also had family there.
DeleteThe mexican government makes me sick
ReplyDeleteNothing but corrupt money hungry bastards
bastards.
U.S.A should treat narco traficking as a national security threat enter mexico and clean house from.federal government all the way down to the.narco king pins. Only then will mexico emerge from this self destructing abyss
People need 2 wise & wake up!.. I said El Chapo wasn't going 2 stay in prison & was neva going 2 takin 2 the U.S.!.. He has 2 much money, knws 2much, & well connected!.. El Chapo been trafficking since the 80's!.. Worth Billions in cash not checks!.. The CIA & DEA has been workin with drug lords since Iran Contra scandal & secretly joinin the Colombian Cartels 2 kil Pablo & incarcerate the Cali Cartel leaders, tried with the FARC but didn't succeed!.. The U.S. gov sealed all El Mayo's sons cased & they all received deals 4 killing & shippin drugs by the tons!.. Y?! Cuz all said El Chapo, El Azul, & El Mayo had deals with the DEA & CIA 2 do wht they do!.. So cases were sealed 2 prevent their lawyers frm presenting this evidence
ReplyDeleteLmao, listen to this bullshit....mayo and chapo are familia and always will be, the sinaloans run the shit because they are the shit.....as for this article, nothing could be farther from the truth
ReplyDeleteChapo in Costa Rica, made it seem like he landed in Honduras, now this vato saying he in Jesus Maria good cover ups, but he is costa rica. N Caro Quintero is in Michoacan.
ReplyDeleteand how would u know that?
DeleteAs it turned out, I was right. Yes, I have sources in Sinaloa and good ones for many reasons including that I did undercover investigations into the Sinaloa Cartel for AP.
DeleteGreat article! Really nailed it on this one BB,
ReplyDeleteI don't know about the partying crap but the other stuff is on point^
ReplyDeleteNice soap opera, it might have some facts, anyway, just a soap opera. You can apply for a TV series writer.
ReplyDelete11:45 arturo guzman loera was killed in Puente Grande, after el chapo escaped from there...
ReplyDeleteMfs dogging this article sayin fake interview, its B.S., & otha shit!.. But frm jump the article stated this is frm an amigo of the CDS!.. Most of the stuff in this article ring true!.. This mf knw more than any mf knocking this article!.. Fact is El Chapo, El Mayo, & Rafael Caro Quintero are frm the same, they're all round the same age, all drug lords, & are all free!... Only 2 have has ever been caught! 1 did almost 30yrs in prison & walked out with arrest warrants!.. 1 was caught twice & exscaped frm prison twice by paying millions!.. And the last "El Mayo" has neva been caught!.. Yet mfs say this article is B.S.?.. Wht world yaw living in?!.. Most of the stuff said in this I believe!.. These are well protected & well financed drug lords!.. With ties 2 the Mexican & U.S. government!... The only fools is the masses!.. The War on Drugs is a sham 2 make these governments look like they're fighting the war!.. When in all!..Bleeding the taxpayers!.. Cuz the war is funded by taxpayers!.. While these governments are both corrupted!... Got they're hands all in these drug lords cookie jar!.. Billions & Billions is bein made off this!.. Familes with money 4 generations, providin people wit job, whether illegal or not, boosting economys!.. Most of yaw asleep!.. I've been woke!.. U dnt have believe whts in this article!.. But most of the shit in this article is TRUE!..
ReplyDeleteThis noticias gone bad like hear chisme in su cantina.Lo siento no creo.
ReplyDeleteEl Chapo, Tupac Shakur, Elvis Presley, Jimmy Hoffa, and Lebron James are all partying & playing softball with Pablo Escobar and Carlos Lehder on Norman's Cay.
ReplyDeleteBB spreading gossip. What are yall TMZ now?
ReplyDeleteDisappointed BB would run this trash, full of speculation with zero proof. I enjoyed thinking BB could be as honest and reasonable as InsightCrime, articles like this make you question that.
ReplyDeleteWeres jose lopez or the haters at lol se les fue el internet puro sinaloa
ReplyDeleteSe perdio compa jaja aun recuerdo su escrito vuando agarraron almenchito, god damn jaja ya ni sus luces o amda d incognito por ahi... att chapodamasorden
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El chapo no puede con el mencho se le fue todo de las manos estos ya no son los tiempos de antes y puro michoacan valee
Delete... Wow... Please Do Not Post Crap And Turn BB Into Another Questionable Blog Page Like BDN ... Try Consulting With Chivis, Tijuano, J, And Or Buggs Prior To Releasing Rumor Articles ... Other Sites Have To Submit A Draft For Approval Prior To Going To Print , So Should All BB News/Blogs ... Does BB Really Want To Be Known Like The National Inquirer ? ... SMH = (Shake My Head) From Bonita, Ca ...
ReplyDeleteSo do you have the habit of not reading the beginning of articles? It tells you everything you need to know. You wouldn't be criticizing people of you would have read the whole thing.
DeleteThis is.more credible than govt statements.
ReplyDeleteI think some is true but parts are fake I did read a while back caro quintero for assists frozen while he was in prison for money laundering if he is not in the game way be laundering money or the United states freeze those assists? But yea why would three most wanted ppl in world be partying in a known area like that? Think this guy wants to throw off the ppl
ReplyDeleteBut you didn't read well, it says that nobody is looking for them, nor us nor Mex govt, but for ethics and smoke they fool the people with banners saying we wanted this or that for millions...bs.
DeleteYou publish this crap but filter some of my comments?
ReplyDeleteTo the unforgiving: Nothing wrong with speculating once in a while, the editor's team may be kind of busy sometimes, try and get your magna operas in before anybody else, and amaze us with your better 'güisdoom'...
ReplyDeleteWhat Quintero has bin doing just financing and washing money that's all viva el r1
ReplyDeleteI seen this article In blog del naco (narco) or another bogus bs website.... cuz this smells like bs....
ReplyDeleteDamn shame the Zetas or some other group don't put some lead into EPN - he is a bigger POS than Chapo. Of course the DEA is in on it - that's why they love to have drugs illegal int he US - more money for bribes to the DEA and the politicians. Fucking scum the whole lot of them.
ReplyDeleteDid any of you who are criticizing BB for publishing the telSur story read the fairly long introduction that I wrote for the story. I said specifically "Borderland Beat is not presenting this story as confirmed facts as much of it is impossible to verify".
ReplyDeleteI questioned the truthfulness of the "administrator of the operator"
I said that I waited nearly a week after the story was published by telSur to see what else might come out in the media as to what Chapo did when he escaped. Nothing concrete came out in that week. A story about a private jet landing at night on a island in Honduras and a man seen walking in the shadows at the airport. Others claim he went to Costa Rico, but offered no proof.
So I decided to post the story as another tale of what he did after the escape. But I thought I made it clear that BB was not presenting this a factual account.
El Chapo is a frontman, the reason he was extracted was to show the Mex Government its power, I would not be surprised if he already buried in a grave somewhere. The real power is behind its unseen money mangers which have ties to the CIA and mossad
ReplyDeletei aint back,i never left just reading the wack ass comments and i love how haters speak my name,im famous on here! lmao!!!
ReplyDeleteYes jose, you stopped posting Comments, but you are still famous, for shit, but famous...
DeleteYea I remember u aren't u menchos admirer.
DeleteEl 4x
As far as the American 1%/gvt is concerned EPN can be a murdering, drug trafficking, corrupt SOB dictator, as long as he keeps the impoverished masses politically oppressed!
ReplyDeleteDrugs are not a problem but communists/socialists are!
Truth hurts, this is truth, chapo and mayo basicly have a big city in the mountains that very few people know how to get there by land.
ReplyDeletea big city? not!! these guys make small towns in the woods or hills or valleys where its hard to get especially in durango etc etc!
ReplyDeleteThe golden trinagle...bingo,
DeleteThey live in caves like Osama bin laden
ReplyDeleteYeah righ!!! That is the truth they live in caves with fear, they are cavemans living like neanderthals lived 11000 years ago, they don,t need fridges, electricity, helicopters, cellphones, clothes, whats more? money? LOL hahahahahahahahahahah, stupid kid, go back to school and lure youself with your texts books, upps sorry I know you are in vacation typing on your old pc and enjoying the freedom of speech.
DeleteEmerging boss is an ill-translated version of lugarteniente. Anyway, as you now know, the facts I stated were true. Thanks for republishing my story. And yes, I have great contacts in Sinaloa and elsewhere. I lived there for over four years and was a correspondent for UPI and Reforma.com. I also did an undercover into the Sinaloa Cartel for AP, which took me to the many states across the US.
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