At least 31,000
fragments of human bones were found on a ranch in Nuevo Leon, (northern
Mexico), which allegedly was used by organized crime to incinerate their
victims to dispose of their bodies. Apparently heavy rains unearthed the
remains.
Nuevo Leon borders the United States, is controlled by Los Zetas.
The exact location of
the ranch has not been made public as the investigation and search continues to
discover additional bone fragments.
The N.L. state attorney
Priscila Rivas claims said although they do not have an exact number of bodies
the bone fragments represent, supposedly so farinvestigators have been able to determine
that the remains belong to at least 31 people who had been reported missing.
She went on to say only a fraction of the bones have been forensically tested so far.
She went on to say only a fraction of the bones have been forensically tested so far.
If anyone thinks the state of Nuevo Leon has the desire or funds to test thousands of bones, please recall the 2011 cases of narco fosas (clandestine graves) discovered in Tamaulipas (in photo above) and Durango City, Durango, over 500 bodies discovered. Government agencies promised forensic studies of all remains found. They called on family members, in those areas, who had missing loved ones, to provide samples of their DNA, to assist attempts in identifying remains, by matching the samples with bodies and bones discovered.
The truth of the matter
is that the majority of the remains found were never tested. Families reported that offers of blood
samples were refused by authorities, leaving them with the only reasonable
conclusion, that testing was not going to be conducted.
Same scenario in the
Northeastern state of Coahuila.
In 2014 the federal government made a push into specific areas such as Cinco Manantiales (Five Springs), in search on remains of the thousands of missing persons who vanished in the past decade. Coahuila is the backbone of Los Zetas and is where its premier leaders Lazca was killed, Z40 (Miguel Trevino) arrested and Z42 lived. 42 (Omar Trevino) lived in Cinco Manantiales on his horse ranch.
In 2014 the federal government made a push into specific areas such as Cinco Manantiales (Five Springs), in search on remains of the thousands of missing persons who vanished in the past decade. Coahuila is the backbone of Los Zetas and is where its premier leaders Lazca was killed, Z40 (Miguel Trevino) arrested and Z42 lived. 42 (Omar Trevino) lived in Cinco Manantiales on his horse ranch.
Of the 1500+ remains supposedly
found on a "narcorancho" in 5 springs, the government implied they belonged to at
least 500 people. It was announced they
would be “forensically tested”.
We are still waiting for those results and the list of who the remains belong to.
We are still waiting for those results and the list of who the remains belong to.
The government, both
state and federal, were in a continuing attack by human rights groups, such as CADHAC,
who stopped working with government agencies after years of being fed inaccuracies, fallacy, and fabrications, in hope to
quiet families of the missing and human rights organizations. Many were in the
mindset that the 5 springs “search” was nothing more than theater.
Another element that
Tamaulipas, Durango and Coahuila have in common is they are all considered as
beigng narco news blackout states. News
about organized crime is largely missing in the media, or heavily
censored.
Note: Thanks to BB contributor 'Dave' for the heads up on this story after hearing it on Imagen radio last night ( Ana Maria Salazar)
Information used to write the N.L. story was accessed from EFE , other material from Borderland Beat archives.
Note: Thanks to BB contributor 'Dave' for the heads up on this story after hearing it on Imagen radio last night ( Ana Maria Salazar)
Information used to write the N.L. story was accessed from EFE , other material from Borderland Beat archives.
Just terrible how criminals can get away with such horroric acts, same old story to bash on the goverment and see no change in mexico, its more then obvious they let these things happen to their people.
ReplyDeleteMust be just population control
another proud day for the zetas
ReplyDeleteThis is why they tuck their tail now. That is why the dont want to call themselves Zetas. They allowed their ranks to intimidate kill rape and steal from people that have nothing to do with crime.
DeleteThe families and friends of the victims want revenge.
Now that weapons are easier to come by in Mexico the planes are equal. Now we see that their man weapon was intimidation ... Hahahahaha no one is scared if these little putas. They are scared if normal people thays why they dont nut up and say "Yeah I am a zeta"
Nutless no tienen huevos son jotos con culo abierto.
Bet you won't say that to Z40 in his face...
DeleteDon't expect much from the mexican military, they do not have HUEVOS to stand up for themselves as military or paramilitary, they can only abuse their mighty powers if their mandos "say so", and only "fight" unarmed defenseless citizens...
DeleteBet you won't say that to Z40 in his face!
DeleteZ40 is in protective custody, police is watching his ass's everymove 24/7...
Delete--El barril de menudo con patas is soo happy he wears his tutus all week...
--z40's poor viuda writes on borderland beat: "bet you won't say..."
7:45 pm you are an idiot. Z 40 was a coward, he ran like a bitch when he was confronted by the military. He only showed valor when his enemies were defeated.
Delete@4:41pm he never ran from the military just saying
DeleteAnybody survives encounters with even more corrupt mexican military, he ran...
Delete...or paid some general to lose a few men they did not want around, mexican generals are some hungry dogs and they have to kick up $$$ if they know what is good for them, they will sell away their men's maruchan or texas territory, no problemo...
God and Pope would please help these innocent people, who never hurt anybody
ReplyDeletewhere do I go to see if my nephew is one of the bodies
ReplyDeleteYour best bet is go to PGR in DF.
DeleteTake a DNA results from the closest family member to the missing.
Be as prepared with the information you have, organize it for presentation.
call and make an appointment. Take a group of 4 or 5 or more.
With this information they may test for a match.
They did test a portion of the remains during the time it was front page news.
Then meet with the state PGR, be careful with them, be polite, offer your DNA for their files. Let them offer anything else.
This is what our family did, and other families we know. One family got "lucky" and there was a match in Tamaulipas. This was at the height of the story. BTW The victim was a male American, who had been pulled off a bus in Matamoros and vanished. That was during the week of terror when tormenta was killied.
Good luck to you and your family
Try to get DNA from a sister or brother of the missing. It will be a closer match than father or mother.
DeleteAre they finding one little bone of one guy out of the whole bunch once in a while, just pa' que no esten chingando? Looks like a pattern...
Delete--then it is on to fabricate a confessed killer freshly taken off the street...
8:31 they may help disappear you and your DNA, trust nobody government in mexico...
DeleteLooking at the picture of the dead on the ground, one can only imagine the smell of death and wonder how the investigators can work the scene.
ReplyDeleteRodrigo medina left no money for anything but play possum, he stole it all helped by his daddy and they took it to the US, el bronco rodriguez is to take it eazy and not put anybody in jail, peña nieto promised "some help", at least 5 or 6 inches of promises...
ReplyDeletePinche zebras! Their own mothers don't even love them.
ReplyDeleteDont compare Z with zebras who are such nice animals, your insulting the zebras. Zetas are more like ZZZnakes. They will kill and eat their own children if it meant moving up ranks or for money.
DeleteAmerican general says zetas were trained at School of the Americas fort bragg.
DeleteSome were also trained with kaibiles on guatemala, or any other franchises, like many of the worst LatinAmerican graduates that have made the honor roll and the hall of fame of the School of the Assassins...
--google: SoA Watch...
Snakes are innocent too! It is humans that have the evil streak. Lazca was drop dead gorgeous-even when he dropped dead LOL, but evil nonetheless.
Delete_Canadian girl
Canadian gjrl, long time no see, and you come up with drop dead gorgeous...maybe el lazca looked good when he was young (in his photo) but on most photos looks like an old bald faced fox, you and chivis need glasses and to stand on a brick for short people.
DeleteAnother female agrees.L was gorgeous.
DeleteThree pairs of glasses for the ladies!!!
DeleteTo hell with Tetaz
ReplyDeleteThis is heavy on the heart to read. The overwhelming pain and suffering for these families already freaked out of their minds because their loved ones have "gone missing" AND THEN they all get danced by their government's agencies' pathetic performance. Mucha crueldad tan penoso. This is a powerfully important story. It, also, brings the tragedies implied by the ugly word "genocide" to mind. (I kept thinking of the 43 student teachers as I read this). May all these unknown vctims rest peacefully. May there be Justice for their lives and needless killings. Big respects 2 Lucio & BB 4 this.
ReplyDeleteK-K
Maybe the 43 missing students are part of that grave?
ReplyDeleteuhh.. wrong state.
Delete11:20 AM- thank you for pointing this out. Gracias! It's the whole thing--the disappeared, no matter whom they may have been in life, that's so hard to take. Far and away from Mexico, we know about the missing student teachers because their fate got plenty of press, so they're who we relate to. Everybody who actually lives in Mexico knows so much more because they're suffering through these horrors in carne propia. Sadly, the 43 aren't the only victims.
Delete9:11AM: as soon as I saw the photos, that's exactly what I wondered, too. This story is HUGE.
ReplyDeleteThe main point to understand/remember is that the cartels and the (corrupt part of) the government have the same objectives: keep the normal law abiding citizens quiet and keep the gravy train rolling.
ReplyDeleteA special case are the Autodefensas which pose the only threat to the cartels and government.
Interesting enough: the objectives/goals of the real Autodefensas should be the same as those of the US/DEA/FBI: to combat organized crime and corruption in the government.
Well put.
DeleteThe true toll of violence in Mexico may be a death toll of perhaps ochocientos mil muertos. My country is living a lie.
ReplyDeleteSomebody! Please! Anybody! Explain to me, again, how this isn't genocide.
DeleteWhere the H is the UN to call it like it is, make it official?! The Mexican government, military, police who hide behind the US war on drugs are responsible for mass murder, killing 800,000 civilians... so far...
The idea is to make the living shut the fack up...by now the perps have all escaped and the many police officers that gave the arrested to the narcs have become narcs themselves, or politicians looking to distract from their current robberies...
Delete--But the dead discovered should be shock and awed enough by now and shut the fack up unless they want things to get worser...
9:27AM, those are really good points. What I hate is the bad press that gets passed around about the Autodefensas. They are key to the solution, NOT the problem! Idiots compare these brave individuals to Colombia's los PEPES, or other narco-fascist paramilitaries. The government & the narcos fear them because the Autodefensas ARE the will of the people, risking their lives to speak for El Pueblo, La Raza, El Campesino...( Free The Good Doctor!) VIVA MEXICO!
ReplyDeleteStates have formed their own state government owned operated free to kill and extort kidnap rape or murder "autodefensas", guerrero, zacatecas, chihuahua, coahuila, veracruz, trampaulipas, oaxaca, chiapas, tabasco, sonora, puebla, morelos, estado de mexico, el DF, san luis...they all have their own "state sponsored"...
Delete--AND then you have the paramilitary wings of the federal government, the army, navy, PGR, ETC ETC ETC... nice going, nazi-fascism all over, desperate to keep control...
(August 9th) Another death in Mexico: Man who led search for the missing students - LA Times: "... The tragedy threw a light on the cases of hundreds of other people missing in the state of Guerrero – currently Mexico’s most violent. More than 20,000 people are missing across the whole of the country.
DeleteJimenez, an outspoken critic of the government, spearheaded a group of hundreds of people in Guerrero faced by what they felt was authorities' indifference and lack of action, they began digging in the dry, dusty hills looking for bodies and clues. In an interview in December during one such search in the mountains around Iguala, Jimenez said: “This area – we have always said it – it’s a cemetery."... Since the group began work in November, 129 bodies have been found. .. Mario Vergara, 40, whose brother went missing on July 5, 2014, in Guerrero, said that Jimenez motivated hundreds of families to go out and start looking ..
“He taught us how to search and how to push and every day he would give us the energy to carry on,” said Vergara.
Asked if Jimenez’s death would affect the future of the search parties in the hills, currently on hold during the rainy season, Vergara replied:
“They’ve killed Miguel – we don’t know why, maybe because of the searches, as we were putting the heat on the government... But they’re not going to stop us.”
http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-search-mexico-missing-shot-to-death-20150809-story.html
At this rate, these peace of shit zetas will leave a macabre past in every Nuevo Leon, Coahuila and Tamaulipas ranch.
ReplyDeleteAnd, a living hell for most of the Mexican people.
ReplyDeletePara la gente idiota que comenta, La Letra si entierra los cuerpos afueras de Monterrey en Sabinas, Vallecio, Cadereyta, es porque no quieren calentar la plaza de Monterrey me refiero a la area metropolitana donde ellos controlan la gran parte ni se diga la área sur de Monterrey y también el norte del estado.
ReplyDeleteEso sé llama "No calentar la plaza" es como si encontrarán una narcofosa en San Pedro donde vive la gente más rica sea de empresarios a narcos.No como los Golfos que se la pasan haciendo sus pendejadas en balacear bares y antros de los Zetas que nomas en calentado la plaza los Golfos haciendo esas tonterías.Y lo hacen nada más para calentar la plaza a los Zetas.
Urgente... Fuerzas Unidas por Nuestros Desaparecidos (as) en Nuevo León aclara las manipulaciones de información hechas irresponsablemente por el gobierno de Nuevo León y sus organizaciones civiles comparsas y afines, subvencionadas por ellos mismos....
ReplyDeletePuntualizaciones de FUNDENL sobre “descubrimiento” de restos humanos en Salinas Victoria N.L.
A TODAS las familias de personas desaparecidas en Nuevo León
A la población en general:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1028027317227500
Your comment is extremely ignorant. What you said is like saying that every American goes arround killing innocents in schools and movie theatres. People like you is the reason why the rest of the world believes that all of us Americans are stupid. Wake the fuck up, that radical xenophobe only cares about himself and his money. Time to think progressive, leave the past behind, quit believing these nutjobs and get your head off their asses.
ReplyDeleteMy day is complete. I have learned something i didn't know, before: Donald Trump reads and comments on BB. Today, he's "5:57 PM." Or, it could be that troll-thing that lives on top of Trumpleroy's fat head that's posting to BB. Either way, it's the Trump vibe.
ReplyDelete@September 2, 2015 at 10:15 AM Why are you criticizing Los Pepes and the AUC? Los Pepes were the ones who brought Escobar down - no one else could do it. As for the AUC, they fought the FARC on their own terms and brought Medellin's murder rate from 7000 a year to 700 a year. They gave everyone a choice, play on our terms or die.
ReplyDeleteAve Maria, pues. Como le parece que ni fue los malditos PP ni el tal famoso Bloque de Busqueda ni mucho menus AUC. Delta Force coordinated the hunt for Pablo and killed him 2 Dec 1993 in Medellin--the "kill shot" by a gringo, raised in Cali. Go figure. The roof top photos of the rest of the crowd with the slain cartel leader do mislead, so your assumption is only natural, mihijito. MAS; AUC; PEPES; FARC; ELN; PLN; URIBISTAS; SANTOS GOV are narcos managed by CIA, DEA. These are Colombia's current "cartels." AUC, Los PP are narco fascist paramilitaries, all total 128 narco fascist paramilitary groups operate in Colombia. Then, there's the offical Colombian military and FARC in the mix.All are brutal killers, who commit masacres, kidnappings, who torture, rape and mutilate other Colombians. The "False Positive" murders and genocide del Indio in a country with a population of 40 million and 10 million "Displaced Persons" proves that peace is seen as bad for business to the Colombian narcos way of thinking. Medellin a cool, safe place, in 2015? Well, sure, if you get to spend your days parked at El Club Campestre.
DeleteSlightly off topic but,the murder of Ruben Espinosa and the 4 women in Mexico City may have been killed by Los Zetas who were trying to rip off brick cocaine that the Colombian girl may have had ?
ReplyDeleteSupposedly that's what the ex-cop said. He denied all the stuff reported in the media about them going to the apartment to have sex with the Colombian woman.
DeleteHe said it was a Zeta hit. Z's were outside watching as the massacre took place.
Rather than pointing away from Gov.Duarte, this brings it back to him, since Z's are his enforcers in Veracruz, and are not otherwise known to have big presence in D.F.
8:07 NOT!!! JAVIER DUARTE DE OCHOA keeps coming up with all kind of stupid excuses, the dead accused him and his greasy ass, tres is nobody else that do a crime like that because of personal hate, even the arrests seem cooked and fabricated...
DeleteAW...Yes I read something along similar lines.Not so much an out and out hit,but more a rip off?
DeleteIt begs the question,why kill all the people at the home if it was just to rip off cocaine?Either way Zetas are mentioned and as you say not really known in DF ?
--Duarte spent a lot of time on el DF as a federal congressman before going to veracruz to help fidel herrera on his campaign against the veracruz treasury...
Delete--He Duarte does not look like the penguin for nothing, and the los zetas and other elite murderers will go anywhere to fulfill their "contracts", their brutality always shows, because it is part of the intimidation campaign against the big mouth journalists, students and people badmouthing "veracruz or their government" represented in the "persona of javier duarte de ochoa, la marrana panza de ballena con ojos de toro loco" ... damnit, goddamnit, the last half was written by my motherfackin cell phone, word after word all by itself, it is learning FASTER than many BB Commenters, I can't find the "application"...
#chingue su madre peña nieto...images...google...
--Duarte also said shortly before the narvarte murders: "algunas manzanas podria van a caer, vamos a saudir el arbol..." portensen bieen, mushashos, luego me echan la culpa a mi o a mi familia...speech in person on youtube...
Delete--after the dirty deed was done and he was accused everywhere by everybody but el pri and the El DF police, duarte explains it was about something else and somebody else, again, WHICH P R O V E S THE GOVERNOR IS INNOCENT, HE SAYS SO...
I hear what you saying and Duarte is one shady motherfucker..It's a strange thing but the picture that Espinoza took that got Duarte twisted you can see the hate in his face,allied to the fact of Veracruz record against anyone who rocks the boat,he has to be the main man..Dont slow yo roll baby
DeleteThe US has every right to look at who comes across her borders..
ReplyDeleteThe race card is a convenient block to discussion.Many undesirables do indeed cross every day,the same people who cry about it sure wouldn't want them living next door to them?By the way ,race has nothing to do with this question..
We all know who brings the race issue into it,as is usual.The most intolerant people here.
You cannot state things like that,you will be called racist..
ReplyDeleteOh,that's the whole point
Yep. I'll never understand it.
ReplyDeleteI honestly have no huge issue with Mexicans for the most part. They're easy enough to get along with in the workplace etc.
But to let anyone come in uncontrolled from a country so violent with a high rate of murder, rape etc. is just ignorant. To demand a better system to stop the flow of ILLEGAL immigrants and to have some sort of idea of who and what is entering your country is not racist. It just makes logical sense.
The cultural marxists have an agenda. And us along with the Mexicans don't stand to gain a thing in their end game.
Informative article , Lucio. And thanks for the credit. (even if I did get the wrong last name of the news presenter, its Salazar, not Hernandez.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you but the problem in my own opinion is that in Laredo Texas many US Mexican American citizens only talk about the Mexican immigrants about them having rights here but they dont say anything about the thousands of immigrants from central American being slaughtered by the Mexican government and organized crime. To me thats racism on their part. If u r gonna defend immigrants do it fairly not to ur confidence.
ReplyDelete--It is cheaper to kill them in mexico, mexican narcos have another contract to squeeze from the US, they are the ones who do not want that many more SouthAmerican immigrants there on the US...
Delete--but there are too many nosy people on the US that would investigate and put other people in jail for murdering immigrants to protect their "american country"
That's so rings horribly true.
DeleteL E G A L I Z E ! It'll save lives.
Blame Chapo for opening the gates of hell so that the Zetas could roam free. He started the war against the Golfos causing Osiel to unleash the Zeta's fury. Blame your lil papi for trying to fill his greedy pockets.
ReplyDelete¿Y como sabemos si toda esa gente son víctimas de secuestro? Aparte también pueden ser contrarios de los Zetas.A que recordar la sangrienta batalla que los Zetas y el CDG tuvieron durante varios años por la plaza de Nuevo León.
ReplyDelete@ 5:57 Yup this is exactly what the Indians said. When they seen your grandfather coming on the " Mayflower *
ReplyDeleteAnd all those immigrants made the US what it is today..
Delete7:01 AM: LMAO !! 9:43 AM: Word.
Delete@September 2, 2015 at 6:16 PM @September 2, 2015 at 7:10 PM
ReplyDeleteI was waiting for responses like this. Let me ask you Mr. Progressive 6:16 PM and Trump-infatuate 7:10PM, how many friends and acquaintances do you have who are now disappeared and murdered in Mexico? How many dead bodies have your kids seen? You can say what you want about Trump and progression and movie shootings and cop killings; I get it. What we see in the US is NOTHING compared to Mexico yet all you can say is "progression"? You need to go take a trip to Mexico and let everyone know that you are ok with that coming here to the US. After your kids walk out of school and see a pile of bodies laying on the road, with friends who you were with a week ago are gone never seen again. Let me know how far you want to "progress".
10:00PM, "but to let anyone come in uncontrolled from a country so violent with a high rate of murder, rape etc. is just ignorant.." The States has disproportionately high murder rates and rape is epidemic in the USA. Then, by your standards, 10:00PM, Americans cannot be permited to enter or immigrate to another country to live and work, because the US is a racist, violent, outta control nation.
ReplyDeleteMexicans really have got some nerve calling anyone racist?
ReplyDeleteThe way the indigenous people's of Mexico are treated is nothing short of disgraceful but somehow never dealt with?But,that issue doesn't garner press,political points,or anything worthwhile to anyone does it?Hypocrisy
Mexico is about the most intolerant country there is,there is even antipathy to Mex-Amers ? You get away with the race angle because of the political climate.Mexicans calling people racist?Even here people are to cowardly to express that fact?Political correctness stifles the truth..
ReplyDeleteWhite Trash Ignorance
ReplyDeletePolitical correctness is evil, dehumanizing and cynical. Fuck it.
ReplyDeleteThese idiots on here calling out the poster asking for a more secure America are true hypocrites. Tell me again how mexico deals with "immigrants" they encounter in mexico.
ReplyDeleteHere's a thought....how about using some of the millions of dollars the "government" has seized from the narcotraficantes to pay for the DNA testing to identify the person's who have been found in these mass graves!!
ReplyDelete