Translated by Otis B Fly-Wheel for Borderland Beat from a Riodoce article
Subject Matter: "Cholo Ivan" Gastellum
Recommendation: No prior subject matter knowledge required
Reporter: Alejandro Monjardin
After the detention of Orso Ivan Gastelum Cruz, "Cholo Ivan", the group of criminals that he controlled has fractured into various cells with different leaders, advised a commander of the Ninth military zone, Rogelio Teran Contreras.
The military commander said that the criminals that were under the command of "El Cholo" continued operating in the central North region of the State.
"There has been an area where he has always been working, the group of Cholo Ivan and all the remnants have stayed there".
"The divided groups continue operating, carrying out hydro carbon theft, extortion, vehicle robbery, and crimes of that nature, these groups are still alive", he indicated.
He mentioned that each one of the splinter groups had its own leader, but that they all continued operating for the Sinaloa cartel.
"There are various leaders that are operating there, they fractured, but continue operating in the area of Mocorito and all of Buenavista, Caitime, and all their zones", he indicated.
El Cholo Ivan was captured on the 8th of January in Los Mochis, together with his leader from the Sinaloa cartel Joaquin El Chapo Guzman Loera.
Original article in Spanish at Riodoce
Monday, August 15, 2016
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capturing leaders only creates more havoc and crime as it splits the organization a good example is BLO which has split into like 10 smaller groups but has increased the crime in the areas of operation.
ReplyDeleteEl Chapo is the only one that can keep every one under a single command .
Atte: El Delta 97 de los Vengadores
You didn't say this when every other capo was caught, just Chapo. They should capture Zambada also, fuck that!
DeleteBullshit! CDS is/was structured to continue to operate with impunity when a boss is KIA or arrested. It has absolutely nothing to do with Chapito himself to keep plaza bosses in line...rather more to do with greedy power seekers seeking an opportunity to expand their power.
DeleteNotice this happened when Cholo Ivan was busted...not Chapo.
Bullshit delta you dont know what youre talking about. Anyone around long enough knows el chapo messed up the whole sinaloa cartel and after he did he never got the Beltran plazas under.control and that means no preace or control under one command all he did was get himself arrested.
DeleteLos Vergadores u mean!!
Delete5:27am Chapo never kept anything under control.
DeleteEl delta mis huevos
DeleteWell done with the statement about el chapo.. He really is the best leader for his cartel. Shit always gets so much more unpeaceful unless hes in control.
DeleteJust in case this is not obvious to you (or anybody else) reading the BB regularly: government policy is NOT about reducing crime!
DeleteThe aim of Government policy is to prevent criminals outside of the government from becomming powerful.
This is best ilustrated by the so-called 'Kingpin Strategy' imported from the US which does NOT reduce crime, does NOT reduce the flow of drugs BUT undermines the (economic and political) power of those leading crime syndicates other than the cartel we commonly refer to as 'the government'.
Please don't go around showing you ignorance as if it was a Gold Medal. All criminal groups need to be killed or captured. Those who really know how thinks work will understand that you can't not stop all the bullshit from one day to another, specially when the
DeleteMexican govberment allowed the criminals to grow so much over the years.
...Sometimes it is how they start.. Then when stuff get out of hands, things get really ugly like in the middle east with isis... Things don't stay the same forever, they change. What's the purpose of letting criminal organizations get gigantic to then later loose control over them? ..
DeleteWe don't die we multiply!!
ReplyDeleteno, you all eventually die....
Deleteand there is no glory in that, tonto
Ca... Ca... Carteles!
DeleteChalan...
DeleteNo you are wrong. You are dying little by little. You don't see covoys of criminals on trucks anymore so yes you guys are dying. You are just to blind to really see it.
DeleteIt can't be! Sinaloans don't divide much leaa cause havock in their own state! Sarcasm!
ReplyDeleteChapo and his people are a disgrace to snitchola
ReplyDeleteLos Avengers lol next thing there gunna have a suicide squad ... No mamen
ReplyDeleteAnd people actually have the nerve to say Mayo was in charge...lmao! If Mayo was in charge like everyone says it would be tranquil..but its complete chaos in Culiacan ever since Chapo got pinched.
ReplyDeleteThis just shows the sinaloa cartel is the most powerful even tho the top boss chapo in jail and his security chief the gunman are still loyal to them and el mayo keeps the business moving hate them or love them sinaloa are real Capos Speaking the true will make ass lickers wet their panties
ReplyDeleteColombian Boy
Only cockcaroaches multiply!
ReplyDeleteAs long as there are consumers this shit will never stop.. And all the gov in the world know this. It's just a way of making extra cash for them. stop the bullshit. Today is el chapo tomorrow in will be el alto then el gordo, el flako, el tonto, el pendejo ahhh pero nunca EL GRINGO!
ReplyDeleteNo, we sinaloas never mess with the innocent or Robb them or much less kill them. That's only in tamaulipas and michoacan. I would be rich if I got a nickel each time I read that here. Lol
ReplyDelete"We sinaloas never mess with the innocents" HAHAHHA OK... I got to stop laughing at old jokes
Delete6:21 your ass divides, cuantimas cds.
ReplyDelete--the amaos, the CF, the cdj, the cdt, the afos, the cdg, the cds, the blo, all have divided, all were from sinaloa...
most people just dont have a clue as to how much power el cholo ivan had...his group of people that were under him were ruthless and well known..el cholo ivan was well respected and wielded a lot of power and influence..other than El Chapos sons, ivan cholo was Chapos right hand man..and he did a lot of dirty work for chapo..not to mention ivan cholo was and still is super loyal to el chapo...and that just goes to show how much more powerful el chapo was and still is..he will escape soon and there have also been rumors about el cholo ivan planning an escape..both have the power and influence to do so...also i heard rumors that its Adelmo Niebla González who is really behind the recent attacks against el chapos faction...he is a very powerful old school capo who has been around the game for a while now so i wouldnt put anything past him..he also has the power and influence along with the money to make a move against chapos faction..he to has escaped from a mexcian prison by building a tunnel..
ReplyDeleteI hope el cholo does not become la chapa's popeye...
DeleteSorry to say this but if Cholo was as powerful as you say why he is in jail?
Delete@7:07
Delete98% of the worlds top criminals have been arrested at some point in time...its part of the game..and there have been a ton of more powerful capos than cholo ivan that have been arrested before..chapo being one of them..doesnt mean they are any less powerful..sometimes things happen..and yes 100% cholo ivan was very powerful..dont think because he got arrested along with the worlds most powerful drug lord that it makes him any less powerful..cholo ivan had 100s of people under his command and he operated very well for chapos faction of the sinaloa cartel..
Those are bold rumors about el memo!. I really doubt memo would attack the guzman family, he has beef with los salazar fks in Sonora . But what do I knoww huh!
Deletesomeone said that these cells jumped ship to chapo isidro
ReplyDeleteThat goes without saying. Any para-military type organization needs ranks, lack of rank results in fractures and insubordination. Cholo vago was a Lt for chapo in this case a General. The problem is the structure breaks at cholo Ivan. Point is to keep business running like a military campaign. You ALWAYS have a next man from a lower rank willing amd capable to move up and handle the job of his predecessor.
ReplyDeleteCDS is involved in extortion ?no way I thought only Zetas did that lol there it is people. CDS are a bunch of hypocrites . Chapo went out like a coward , he's gonna spend the rest of his life in jail like an animal , on the other hand Arturo Beltran Leyva lived by the gun and died by the guns that was one extremely intelligent and brave man , my respects. Not just anyone can control Mexico city, Acapulco, Chilpancingo, Cuernavaca, Monterey, northern Sinaloa, Mazatlan, Puebla , Nayarit. It takes a special kinda boss for that , it had to be the Boss of Bosses don Arturo Beltran Leyva may you r.i.p. You helped out a lot of people, he even build a school in Sierra by where he was born , in all his plazas thieves and kidnappers , child molesters of anyone who messed with innocent peoplewere killed on the spot if he found out about it or his people, he killed his top lieutenants el MP y el borrado in charge of his plaza in the whole state of Morelos and parts of Guerrerojust because they were kidnapping innocent people.Now that's honor , I hope Calderon one day doesn't suffer and chokes on his own blood for being a coward .
ReplyDeleteDamm suck his balls already 5:56 o thats right hes dead and look at north sinaloa lots of extorsion
Deleteis it true edgar valdez's son was kidnapped? anyone know?
ReplyDeleteThey saying it was chapo son but idk I guess we going to find out when they find the bodies or videos online
DeleteNo i heard egdar valdez beltran was taken also on a separate incident . Maybe just a bs rumor
DeleteRats & cockroach multiply, too.
ReplyDeleteOff subject, but up to sixteen people kidnapped today at la leche restaurant in Puerto Vallarta. Victims were taken away in various vehicles. Authorities believe it is drug cartel related.
ReplyDeleteSo this news is really no news. Split into different cells but still claim CDS? Sounds like business as usual.
ReplyDeletePuro cholo vago mi gente aki no pasa nada!
ReplyDeleteA dozen presumed cartel members kidnapped at up scale restaurant in Puerto Vallarta.
ReplyDelete@borderlandbeat any news yet on who was kidnappedat the restaurant in puerto vallarta ???
ReplyDeletePos a quien mas van a levantar sino es a otros pinches aprendices de sikarios?????
Delete:):):)
Everyone is a badass until extradition and they shit their pants
ReplyDeleteYou would be too
DeleteEl "cholo" ya no esta cholo ya esta acompañado de mas prisioneros:)
ReplyDeleteSolomente gente ignorante y pendeja sige estos narcos
ReplyDeleteChivis segun levantaron a Ivan Archivaldo en puerto vallarta, segun fue el CJNG....
ReplyDeletecaro making moves and picked him up to give him a little scare?
DeleteYa deja en paz a chivis, we are chilling by the zocalo sipping margaritas nigga.
DeleteEl Zodiaco.
Jimenez Chihuahua,, a place full of tranquility,, nose pusieron las pilas los chapos y les quitaron la plaza,, ahora se vive mucha inseguridad, y andan robe y robe ninos pa vender sus organos, esta lleno de linieros y zetas
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