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| Nayarit patrols & police trucks race to Jal after kidnapping |
Proceso:
According to
information obtained by Proceso, among the unnamed of the six taken, is Jose Manuel Diaz Burgos, 24 to 25 years
Guzman Salazar's cousin and son of Emilio Diaz Guzman. According to the version
of the family, the sister of Jose Manuel said he was able to escape and alerted
the family what had happened.
However, the reporter Anabel Hernandez also says she confirmed the identification with the family, and it was Ivan who was kidnapped. If Hernandez is correct then both Ivan and Alfredito were kidnapped. Since the AG of Jalisco announced late this afternoon it was Jesus Alfredo ((Alfredillo) who was kidnapped, he did not mention Ivan, however the Guzman attorney has reported Ivan being in Puerto Vallarta but contact with him has been broken. Below are photos of victims and kidnappers. None of the group has been identified as Ivan. Images were taken from surveillance cameras in La Leche restaurant.
However, the reporter Anabel Hernandez also says she confirmed the identification with the family, and it was Ivan who was kidnapped. If Hernandez is correct then both Ivan and Alfredito were kidnapped. Since the AG of Jalisco announced late this afternoon it was Jesus Alfredo ((Alfredillo) who was kidnapped, he did not mention Ivan, however the Guzman attorney has reported Ivan being in Puerto Vallarta but contact with him has been broken. Below are photos of victims and kidnappers. None of the group has been identified as Ivan. Images were taken from surveillance cameras in La Leche restaurant.
El debate and RioDoce
Noreste report:
“The Jalisco attorney
general confirmed that one of those raised in Puerto Vallarta, Jesus Alfredo
Guzman Salazar is the son of Joaquin El Chapo
Guzman.
Attorney Eduardo Almaguer reported that based on documents found in seized luxury vehicles along with information from security agencies, it was confirmed that one of those kidnapped is the son of the leader of the Sinaloa Cartel known as “Alfredillo”.
According to the
investigation, the six individuals were kidnapped by members of the CJNG (Jalisco Cartel New Generation).”
Others identified are:
1. Juan Daniel Tapia
Calva, 53.
2. Josiah Nahuali
Rabago Borbolla, 35.
3. Victor Galvan Urena,
46.
4. Jesus Alfredo Guzman
Salazar, 29.
He added that the
victims were taken to the south of the port, according to initial
investigations.
Seized were vehicles
with license plates from Sinaloa, Jalisco and Nayarit.
2016 models of
Escalade, Rang Rover, Dodge Challenger and a limited edition of Jeep.
Alfredillo was the
first to be recorded on the Sinaloa cartel tapes. After agreeing to work with the DEA, the
Flores twins Margarito and Pedro, made several recorded conversations for the
DEA. The first was made by Margarito
Flores who called Alfredillo on November 9, 2008. In the call a deal was made for 20 kilos of
cocaine to be shipped to the U.S.
That deal led to a
claim by the Flores Twins that only 18 kilos arrived. It was that claim that prompted El Chapo to
speak to the twins in recorded conversations.
Both of Chapo’s sons,
Ivan and Alfredito are wanted for prosecution in the United States
Karma...payback is a bitch. Que maten a esos putos!
ReplyDeleteNo one deserves to die Puto...
DeleteChapo what are you going to do about this? Not a damn thing lol
Delete@ 7:55 AM : There are plenty of people that deserve to die. I think people who make comments like yours are the weakest, weakest type of person on the planet. You would let yourself get beheaded instead of fight back. Weak, weak human being.
Delete@ 5:17 no you are da lowest of the lowest and God still forgives you for being blood thirsty. Dios es bueno, todo el tiempo, si no lo sabes ya lo sabes. Paz
Delete5:17 weak and pendejo people wishing for death of lowly cartel members, their competitors or their families are the biggest pendejos, because, the criminals in government are the evil ones 5hat hire and unleash them on everybody else...
Delete--It is like, who remembers epn and his mega-corrupt shenanigans now? Only i and me???
Who started that other criminal group, now rival cartel named cjng? Seems like they are getting a taste of their own medicine.
DeleteEse se lo robaron al nacho coronel, cria cuervos...
DeleteMx esta lleno de oportunidades, en ves de ver creado mas empresas legales, mas empleos para los civiles sin trabajo, se pusieron hacer mas grupos de rufianes, no fué la mejor decision. De nada les sirvió todo eso si al final las cosas empeoraron. Para que tanto maleante hijo de puta? Si los gobiernos siempre tienen mas para dar y ganar guerras.
DeleteThese brats Ivan & Alfredo Guzman know the life live the life their father has blood on his hands wether it's trafficking or murder or just plain greed you reap what you sow .
DeleteWith the other brother who was killed in 2008.
They should've gotten wise. But greed always overcomes humility. And el Chapo with that video
interrogating that man tied up ? Karma motherfucker.
Hopefully they use the skunk as batting practice and beat the living shit out of him and make his bones a pile of mush.
ReplyDeleteNomas falta que para rescatar a el hijo de el Chapo el pinchi gobierno Mexicano gaste recursos a lo pendejo y llegue a esclarecer este crimen y o hasta encuentre a este delincuente con vida! Mientras miles de otros crimenes contra el resto de el pueblo de Mexico permanecen sin resolver! Que pinche HUEVOS!
ReplyDeleteLa chapa tiene un billones de dolares, probablemente un trillón, estoy se arregla...epn wants some bus fare, since he is going to hell fast...
Deletesmelly, comando looks sketchy
ReplyDeleteThe amazing thing is that they will expend more resources looking for this guy then they ever did investigating mass murders of civilians. Crazy.
ReplyDeletewas just about to post this
Delete6:23 AM
DeleteExactly,notorious drug dealers son,his father helped make Mexico what it is today with cartel private armies,Gente Nueva,Antrax,Zetas,GM,Rojos,Metros,etc etc,yet Mexico will mobilize Marinas Army feds,all kinds of authorities to find him ?
Agree that the gob writes off civilian murders but this is a game of cards that nobody but Mencho and Mayo will be playing. In the end we will see how deep Mayo's loyalty to Chapo is.
DeleteSo is ivan kidnapped too
ReplyDeleteNo han secuestrado a ningun hijo del Chapo. Todos los reportes son falsos. Esa pinche Anabel Hernandez es una "reportera" de segunda, y al parecer ya esta robando oxigeno en este planeta.
ReplyDeleteA que bueno. Ya nos tenia en pendiente estos piche delincuentes! BROMA
Delete6:34 nobody has whup genaro garcia luna's ass like anabel hernandez, I agree she facks up once in a while, but she still comes up a winner, if we are going to be expecting nothing but perfection from everybody, we will have become perfect A..holes, as the murrikkans say...
DeleteIn the news supposedly one of Caro Quintero son and a son Nacho Coronel were also kidnapped with Ivan? Any information on that?
ReplyDeleteIvan and Alfredo both kidnapped?? El Mencho has officially taken over
ReplyDeleteHe just happened to get lucky and get a tip. Menchos shit tactics and frustration towards sinaloa will be his downfall eventually
Delete@ 9:14 AM - They almost caught El Mencho once while chasing his convoy and you know what he and his people did? They shot down the freaking helicopter that was chasing them!
DeleteWhen they caught 40 I didn't see him or his people fight back like that. And 364 out of 365 days of the year nobody even knows where El Mencho is. The one day that they do find out where he is, he blows up all the helicopters chasing him out of the sky. The man is UNA BESTIA. They will never catch him.
Heheheee, la mencha's son get COGIDO, and punched on the snout, and he got cogido and punched on the snout again, and he don't want to get out of jail again...
Delete--La mencha will not be a useful idiot anymore for anybody some day soon, lowly capos don't last long lately...
Has El Peinado switched to CJNG? Who is older, Ivan or Alfredo?
ReplyDeleteIvan is older
DeleteIvan is the oldest hence why he took over after chapo was caught
DeleteI am enjoying the articles as this unfolds pero mucho pedo del gobierno, no? People go missing everyday. It almost seems like they want to ensure a safe return home for the abducted, or else. My $.02
ReplyDeleteSi los señores que se llevaron a los Guzman leen este blog, video de las entrevistas por favor. En HD preferible. Aye si pueden.
ReplyDeleteYes please. If the CJNG's responsible for this are reading, please torture the hell out of him and feel free to post it in 1028 or 4k
DeleteY por favor les dan unos Buenos chingadasos or preferible cortarles los wuevos para to-dos los ninos y ninas inocentes que estos putos o la gente de ellos mandaron a matar..un ojo por un ojo..ay porfas..
DeleteThese comments had me laughing out loud lol
DeleteThe abductors and their families run the risk of retaliation now that their pictures have been made public. It's going to become a high stakes game of poker now.
ReplyDeleteyea i thought the same kinda careless and poorly thought knowing all there faces would of been posted.. why would they risk it knowing someone is gonna recognize them
Deletei thought the same why be so careless and reckless knowing who ur kidnapping and let ur identity be known? something else is going on no way they are that careless for such a high target
DeleteMy guess would be those who actually committed the levanton are low level on the hierarchy of CNJG. Making $500 pesos for every victim whose life is taken away.
DeleteMost bosses dont give a shit...they can find another group of sicarios by sunrise.
Mencho made a play...perhaps seeing no retaliation by CDS after Consuelo Loeras home was attacked...then tipped off Alfredo is in Vallarta...dagger in Chapos reign.
Interesting almost nothing from Mayo on either the attack on Chapos mom or this.
Is CJNG is going to demand a ransom will Alfredo's head be delivered in an Oxxo cooler to Cereso in Juarez?
The kidnappers are dead men along with their families
ReplyDeletedrama thickens! love mexico
ReplyDelete1st thought is DAMNN.. If they did take both of Chapo's sons, CJNG just made gangland history!
ReplyDelete2nd thought is.. How the goverment is going all out to look for them.. Guess the lifes of regular people means peanuts compared to the lifes of a Cartel leaders sons
Government going looking out for #1 only, they will capitalize on the kidnapped's every single squeal as usual...
Deletei wonder if the Jalisco Cartel cut a deal with the DEA and are giving them up in exchange for something else?? Since they are wanted by the USA. Maybe they want the 5 million dollar rewards for each.....thats a quick 10 million...
ReplyDeleteThat's what I was thinking too.Maybe they were picked up by police or military plainclothes to be extradited because US has put pressure on Mexico for that Merida Initiative $$$$$.Clever tactic.
DeleteSelling pemex and mining has made no money for the mexican oligarchs, because peanuts lost value, now we have kidnappings of high value assholes with money, by the "mexican government"
DeleteEsa fue gente de tito beltran no del mencho , esta claro que los hijos del chapo no le tiene miedo al cartel jalisco que asta celebran en su plaza , ya todos saben que fue gente de los beltran leyva
ReplyDelete.JC.
Everyone in sinaloa is happy, we hoping both get killed soon
ReplyDeleteTito beltran , his the one behind this attack he the only that can could of got info that no security will be on the chapos sons party
ReplyDeleteEse puñetero sige en su xbox one, mochomito es nada bola de gueberos
DeletePinche comando! parasen taqueros! Still sounds sketchy!
ReplyDeleteThe abductions game starts I bet you guanos blood is boiling
ReplyDeleteIf this is true, prepare for a all out warrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteSo what's been going on in Mexico for the last 10 plus years is not all out war? But since Chapo's son has been kidnapped now all of a sudden it's going to be all out war. Mexico is already shoulder deep in all out war.
DeleteAll those that are saying that this was a betrayel by somebody close to Chapos kids is wrong! The kids had been partying a whole week in Puerto Vallarta and drawing attention to themselves. They where very easily tracked and followed after a few days using Sinaloa plated luxury vehicles. Then they though family was also respected in the narco world hence they where said to only have had maybe two bodyguards on duty. In simple terms they Fucked Up by being cocky and showing off like they were used to. RI...
ReplyDeleteI can picture Chapo in jail with this news lol.. hes really gonna lose his hair now
ReplyDeleteChapo will die soon
ReplyDeletewait . . hold up! 20 kilos of coke? i thought these high level guys were moving multi ton loads a month?
ReplyDeleteIt was a DEA setup pendejo, Guzmans got played by the twins.
DeleteIt was a DEA setup pendejo, Guzmans got played by the twins.
Delete"It was a DEA setup pendejo, Guzmans got played by the twins"
DeleteWhat the fuck are you babbling about ? DEA ?
So good he had to post it twice..
6:37 'he' is trying to steal your "double barrel attacks"
DeleteLet the Games begin this war is going to get intense and very interesting, just remember Manuel Torres when his son Tachio was taken out of the map.... Just wait and watch.... Don't forget El Menchito Jr is in Altiplano where Chapo escaped from ouchh eye for an eye
ReplyDeleteOh I had forgotten about that wow this is going to be a good long novela
DeleteWe have pictures of guzman brothers and the ones shown here about only one may be a son but not 2 the first picture may be alfredo but the rest just dont look like chapos son and even the first one kind of sketchy nevere trust mexican government news
ReplyDeleteHeard video is out
ReplyDeleteHow you know and where video is?
Delete"Heard"..hahahaha..Shut theeee fuuuuck up.!!..you a nobody..quit instigating shit..
DeleteLesson to be learned is that people can become rich by illegal means, but they can't really enjoy the money without drawing attention.
ReplyDeleteIf you can't enjoy the money then what is the point?... None.
The loads of money los cuinis made are al the old cartel del milenio they been in jalisco for a while since they got the boot from there home in michoacan.
ReplyDeleteMencho ain't nothing compared to el mayo and chapos dinasty I'm pretty sure he's realized by now that kidnapping chapos son was a big mistake , he will appear in a video soon , el Mencho has no way out now
DeleteNobody is doing shit to mencho! Why didn't he do it before,u know why? Cause chapo couldn't! Chapo is done and mencho sent a BIG message to Chapo and CDS! Mencho 1- chapo 0 and mencho is gonna keep winning just like he kicked azul,CDS and everybody that was working with sinoloa out if Jalisco!
DeleteLos cuinis en el bote orita estan siendo interrogados colgados de los güebos en la carcel.
DeleteI would have preferred both of the mass murderer's sons be extradited to spend the remainder of their lives in solitary confinement (arguably worse than death), but I'll settle for a decapitation video. You can't have it all :-)
ReplyDeleteAnd by the way, why are the pictures so blurry? My iPhone takes better quality photos and video stills, and this is a luxury restaurant?
Worry about yourself, and your head being attached to your body.
DeleteShit's gona get crazy if they kill him!!!
ReplyDeleteThey are not going to release him if they did kidnap him. What would be the point?
DeleteHe's going to get tortured to get information (and I bet he knows a lot) then killed. CDS is in serious trouble. Say what you want about El Chapo but they are not the same now that he is gone.
CDS has a lot of power don't underestimate the top dog , if they kill him Mencho will come up dead for sure in the future guaranteed. Jalisco will be just like ciudad Juarez
DeleteCds has different factions and the Guzman are a faction just like the zambada but don't forget that guano is still out there
DeleteHonestly there is more money in holding them for ransom. No money can be made if they are dead unless someone paid millions for their kidnapping and/or assassination. From my prospective and from the little bit of video evidence we have of the kidnappers they didn't do any beating or rough stuff with the victims. That tells me the victims are being shown a certain level of respect. With that respect I say a ransom will be paid.
DeleteI agree with 11:38.There is much $$$$ to be gained from torture versus ransom.Like where the stash houses are,tunnels,etc.Chapo must be going nuts in his cell.He better hurry up and escape or is he calling the shots from his cell?
DeleteLa porra de jalisco jalandose el cuello de ganso con esta noticia,los chinolas lamentandose .esta muy bueno el mitote
ReplyDeleteand wheres the 200 armed man of the corridos ?
ReplyDeleteestos vatos no se mueven a ninguna parte sin escolta federal y militar
ademas que hacia el chapos son in that area of risk controlled by other cartels?
it smell like : te dy ciertas plazas si fingimos el secuestro y posterior muerte de alfredo
Seems like BULLSHIT corridos more like it!
DeleteChivas & boderland staff this is serious we need updates every 30 mins
ReplyDelete11:17 do you want enchiladas with that too?
Delete11:17 AM
DeleteOk dude,do you need any coffee ?
Maybe some doughnuts ? Do you want BB to audit your tax forms as well ? Shall we go the chemist for your meds ?
Chiva, I don't know about these guys, and forgettabboutt the coffee, I'm just glad you are BAAACK BABY!
DeleteThese guys would be stupid to give back the lil Chapito
ReplyDeleteBack It would show weakness ...they have to kill them all to make a example not to come into others people plaza thinking they are untouchable....Los Z's would of had a video out already
These guys were babied too much by their daddy. That they don't even bother to put up a fight. If that's the life style you live, you gotta learn to defend yourself. Obviously you should know people want you dead, so why not fight to stay alive? Or atleast die on feet-Emiliano Zapata
ReplyDeleteThieves were burglarizing Denny's restaurants and customers, guess what I eat my waffles with my pistol in my waist.
I guess you live in the u.s commenting you know nothing about
DeleteHow were they going to put up a fight if they weren't armed? You watch too much action movies
DeleteHola neighbor
DeleteLol. Chuck Norris reads borderland! !! Yea boi. Eating at Dennys. Lol..
DeleteI do live in the US in Texas to be exact. Everyone carries a gun here. I go to Mexico often, half these fucking idiots are drunk and high. How the fuck are you gonna do dirt and not keep a pistol on you? You're gonna tell me you faggots won't even try to put up a fight? Especially with all the selfies these faggots take with gold plated guns and assault rifles and neither were smart enough to carry one. They deserve what happen to them. I'm not chuck Norris, soy mario almada pendejo.
DeleteKARMA....paybacks are a bitch. They got him he is dead....there will be no release, this is Mexico. You live by the sword by God you will die by the sword. He does not deserve to live, his family and himself have their hands covered in blood from the butchered and the 1000's murdered because they want to live the high life. Thumbs down he has got to pay for his sins. DEATH by the slowest means possible.
ReplyDeleteI bet you are fun at fiestas.
Deletenothing will happened here! it's just pre-mature collator damage (negotiation) el chapo vs government 1. chapo's extradition is getting very close.. government need's to remind him that they are the one's with the power and family is what will keep him quiet. 2. government will fool the public using the media outlets pretending there is an outgoing war between chapo and caro quintero who is caro allies (cjng)
ReplyDeleteWhats the news on him now has there been a video released???????
ReplyDeleteEsto se va a poner bueno!
ReplyDeleteThis move and it's consequences mean certain death for that puto. They can never let them go for ransom. The ramifications would be too risky, so the mothefucker dies.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone else thinks is fishy that the gunmen didn't wear tactical gear or even a bullet proof vest? Is this shit staged?
ReplyDeleteYeah bro the more I look at the stills of the video the more I feel like it might have been staged. The fools are wearing nothing but polo with weapons. No extra magazines, kevlar or tactical gear. Even if they knew there was no security you would still go in there heavy as fuck. Fuck what the Intel says you go ready for a huge shootout just in case. Plus the faces weren't covered. You are kidnapping the son of the most notorious drug lord in the world and you don't think its necessary to conceal your identity. Please don't be that reckless on purpose cabrones.
DeleteIt's not staged pendejos it's called a setup
DeleteMaybe Ivan was abducted privately after he left the party?Didn't he leave just 5 minutes before.
ReplyDeleteI'm gonna be honest none of the people that are labeled as victims are Ivan or Alfredo.but you can believe what you want. Not unless they were taken outside, out of the camera views
ReplyDelete