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Proceso has in its possession an audio on which the leader of the Cartel de Jalisco New Generation (CJNG), Nemesio Oceguera Cervantes, alias El Mencho, recently orders a police commander of Jalisco to "relax" his subordinates in the municipality of Chapala. After threats and insults, you can clearly listen the authority give certainty to El Mencho that his instruction will be obeyed. "You know me and you know that we have respect for you," the police chief tells the drug lord. The veracity of the audio was authenticated by Semanario Proceso.
Mencho - M
Police Comander - PC
M - Delta 1
PC - Yes who is this?
M - Listen to me carefully you mother fucker, this is Mencho. You better tell your people to back off
PC - Say what?
M - This is Mencho and you better back off, or I will fuck you up and all those fuckers working for you, I have already identify 30 of your people. I will even kill your dogs if you don't fucking relax. So you decide.
PC - You got it Sr, I will tell them to get back.
M - Don't you fucking hung up on me mother fucker, I already know your location, and you are in Chapala.
PC - No I'm not hanging up on you, I'm just telling you I will call back my people
M - You better check yourself, is better for us to be friends. We don't fuck with you people and now you are fucking with us.
PC - No Sir, I will tell them to get back.
M - Look, you better get every mother fucker out of the way, because all of you get money from us, and you guys are a bunch of pigs when it comes to that.
PC - Yeah that's what I was told, that everyone gets paid.
M - Look you people better fall in line, or you will be the first one to get kill for them.
PC - No Sir. We don't have to get to that.
M - Get the fuck out, because the fight will be for real and you know it. We are not afraid.
PC - No Sir we don't have to get to that, I will call them back.
M - If you want me as a friend you will have a great friend in me, but if not you can go fuck yourself. I'm already fucking tired that you mother fuckers don't listen.
PC - Sir you already know me, and you know I'm at your service
M - I already know that, that's why I'm surprised by this, I know you have your people and family but you have to check yourself.
PC - I know Sir.
M - I don't want you to disconnect this phone because I will call you back, to see if you people are already out of this area.
PC - No, I'm gonna call my people back right now
M - Everyone, everyone in general, you better tell them to fucking relax please
PC - OK I will call you right back at this number
M - No, no don't call this number back, I will call you when I can
PC - OK you got it
M - But don't disconnect this phone, or I will take it as negative
PC - No Sir I will send you a message from another number right away
M - OK but you tell them to fucking relax
PC - Yes Sir, you know me and you know we have respect for you
M - OK you got it, and you know we have respect for you too, and I'm sorry for the aggression and bad language
PC - Yes Sir, right now the guys are over there but I will let them know
M - OK tell them it was me the one who call
PC - OK Sir
Good job proceso as always
ReplyDeleteMexico is number 1!!!!! In corruption.
DeleteWait everyone, who says this is his real voice? Puro pedo compas
DeleteLil' Snoop
6:24 #1 in public corruption, up there where the US money and weapons and military training for gorillas go to help support the mexican satrapy in power, if la mencha keeps his dogs in line...
Delete--what do you have to say when epn's dogs have been massacring and murdering and disappeaing and extorting innocent people under the authoritarian command of "generals" like salvador cienfuegos?
Thanks tex for translation
DeleteMn
Arriba el mencho "sabe como trabajar.
ReplyDeleteWtf? Threatening to kill people? What kind of idiot are you condoning this violence
DeleteIt is not condoning violence, egger, it is about the management style of la mencha, looks like you don't have a second chance, because the next message is when they te estan mandando a la verga, por pendejo y mamon.
Delete--epn just accepts his ministers resignations and names other estupidos in their place, epn needs a good talking to, his 'guardias presidenciales' will not protect his ass forever...
Damn, scared the shit out of me. Taste the real. Question, how was the recording made, and who leaked it?
ReplyDeleteHas black man who lives in mexico you a coward , because i bet this 4 foot guy wount do anything in person i will drop him he is only brave because he has power and money
DeleteLol, mencho would decapitate you alive, but before that he would kill your family in front of you, so you can watch, then kill you. Relax Rambo, this isn't the movies.
DeleteI think its authentic, but if this cop knows him so well why doesnthe capo have to tell him who he is? When mencho finds out he was being recorded and now made public, best if this police commander leave Mexico quickly.
DeleteMoney power.... Don't need much else...
DeleteWell, if mencho's check didn't bounce, he is entitled to his goodies, more capos should put their poolitician servants feet to the fire, chances are we would be having a better mexico instead of a cowardly government murdering mexicans all over the place because they are easier to rob than carlos slim...
DeleteDammnnn like that oh more simple?? His a straight up dude lol either u want peace oh war straight up was it gonna be hahaha
ReplyDeleteYeah really funny. Total corruption. Bet the hard working mexican people getting screwed over and killed arent laughing.
DeleteHard working people don't see problems. Only those whose hang with the wrong crowds. But like any war innocent lives are lost.
Deleter u an idiot 6:46pm? they extort and kidnap innocent people everyday and most of the ones kidnapped are killed whether or not they pay the ransom. i hope your smarter then that. That police commander is probably a good guy at heart and would probably do his job right but he knows he will be killed if he doesnt obey. so yes most casualties are innocent people. TFLAIM TAMPA
DeleteReally man whit the police but whit chapo the coward let his son free , im tired of seeing idiots praised this drug lords like if they did anything good i will love to see him trying that whit the american police they will drop a bomb on his ass
ReplyDeleteSurrrrre they will...cops are getting attacked and killed in the U.S also
DeleteCop killers did not go and get Special Training paid by the taxpayers to go around murdering...
Delete--"cops are being trained to shoot to kill" on the US, and it shows in the way they do it. Google it.
--Then cops are being furnished WAR TOYS to abuse their mighty powers and unarmed citizens, by a government that increasingly needs to control opposition to unpopular government mamadas.
--This is not to justify the cop killing or cops killing, just to explain where it comes from
Fucken scumbag tring to itimidate the law , you dint do the same when you got lock up in the USA ,why because you knew they would bitch slap you like the pieace of s...that you are
ReplyDeleteThese police are taking money from mencho.
DeleteSo salty, thing is he is not in the USA, genius. This is how things operate in Mexico, drug lords and police working hand in hand. This is just him tightening the screws on them. It's obvious they are on the take for money.
DeleteAmerican cops are well trained
DeleteBut if cartels really wanted them snuffed out
They would take the fight to them.
Catch them in their squad cars . AK 47 or Ar-15
Spray em
HAHA!!!!! its obvious theyre on the take??? (3:13pm) maybe some but did you ever stop to think that they know if they dont conform to menchos demands that he would have them killed and maybe their families also. TFLAIM TAMPA
DeleteCan anyone translate?
ReplyDeleteEvery one is talking about mencho being the next Escobar and a pilice chief hurls insults at him?
other way around, Mencho made him look like a THOT!
DeleteLol what the hell is a THOT?
DeleteIt's what we call these bitchez outhere in Chiraq and beyond
DeleteI also want to know. Is it an acronym?
DeleteDamn straight like a boss
ReplyDeleteLike a boss? You're dumb. That's not 'game' to be respected.
DeleteLike i said, like a boss!
Delete11:30 is correct.
Delete3:33 is confusing the terms boss with leader (good leader).
Most bossy people are not respected but feared and obeyed is another matter.
The BOSS in mexico is El Jefe, muchos cabrones call themselves "el jefe", the real jefes are called jefes by those in the know, I hope la mencha lives a long life for setting an example and releasing the chapitos...
Delete--the practice of courteous gentlemanship is not dead thanks to a pinchi drug dealing narc without a "foreign university educaishun" other than a prison stint on the US...
aprendan a la verga cabrones!
Can someone give this to NSA so they can find this scumbag....
ReplyDeleteYou dont think the americans know exactly wherte all these dirty fuckers are at all times? Come on get real.
DeleteNSA works for CJNG
DeleteNSA provided everything....
DeleteThis conversation is bad news for CJNG
Delete@6:34....nope...Mencho works for the NSA...the US will squash him, as soon as he quits paying. He's the type that will die soon. He's a bad ass, but balls bigger than brains...like a Mexican Boxer...cheered, and revered for how "tough", and the heart they fight with, but ultimately end up getting beat to death...He's like M1...Total bad ass, but not the brightest bulb in the lamp.
DeleteNSA,CIA'S and any other government agencies are aware of the Capos whereabouts. As long as they pay Uncle Sam and help with Intel the good ol Crooked United States of America will continue giving passes
Delete9:44 PASES are to be sold, pendejo, we are not charity, even if you stole the whole load, SELL THE SHET, AND GET A GOOD PRICE, and enjoy the windfall while you can, our money is coming back to the bank sooner or later.
DeleteHeard the audio, I would have been tempted to be like " you go fuck yourself" I couldn't let anyone talk to me that way.. Never have never will! But some people are just born to take orders, some lead and some fallow.
ReplyDeleteand yet you type under "Anonymous" jajajaja
Deleteif mencho called you in real life you would probley have a heart attack, let alone talk to mencho with no repsect. did you hear him tell the PC he knows where he is at??? if that PC got out of line him and his whole family would of been wiped out..and you are just a nobody acting tough behind a computer and typing under "Anonymous" jajaja. you would act right if you ever met mencho in person or talked to him on the phone and you better believe that..
You are saying that cause you dont know mexico he has no real choice but to follow his orders especially since mencho let him know that he knew wherebouts of his family and possibly friends too shit he even mention he will kill his dogs from his house then again this is happening in mexico not in the usa if you have never lived in mexico please shut the fuck up cause you dont know shit .
DeleteHonestly I doubt you would let yourself lol .. You think you would really have the caliber to tell that to mencho a crazy cartel phsco. Put your phone down and go to your weshouse job, I guess people are born to take orders and some lead and some fallow. :)
DeleteStop trolling, cause that is what u are doing!
Deletegreetings bb... a few things first: i have been an avid reader of this blog since before havana started and left... chivis, i have been thinking of taking you up on helping out translating, especially after reading otis' farewell. i'll do this first, in hopes it will help those who don't speak the lingo understand this convo, if interested. my take: the fella identified as mencho by proceso in this audio most definitely has the air of a man used to talking to people a certain way, especially when ending in the style of someone who knows much more is at stake. here's hoping this comment goes through, as anyone who has translated a conversation knows, it can be a pain. i have taken the liberty of translating the slang, as any true fluent speaker knows, literal and exact translation loses meaning, and effect.. peace
ReplyDeleteYour help with bb would be much appreciated!
DeleteC for the alleged chief, M for you know who:
ReplyDeleteM: (asking, and already pissed off) "Delta One??"
C: "yea, who is speaking?"
M: "Look here and look well, you son of a bitch. this is mencho you dumbass. relax (*note: more accurately, settle) your fucking people the fuck down. this is mencho, dumbass. settle your people the fuck down, or i will seriously fuck you up, you, along with your little group of dogs (people) with 30 motherfuckers. i will even kill your fucking dogs if you dont settle down, fucker. how do you see it???
C: (reluctant as fuck, and after a moment) "yes sir, i will tell them to stand down"
M: "no, no, no.... dont you hang up (on me), you son of a bitch, i know exactly where you are, you were just in chacala, dumbass.
C: (interrupting, and obviously scared) "no sir, i am not hanging up on you, i am simply telling you i will tell them to stand down".
M: (interrupting) "get with the program you fucking dumbass, i thought you said we would get along fucker. i dont fuck with you, and so you try to fuck me over???"
C: "no sir. (muttering) again, i will tell them to stand down"
M: "you had better get on (frustrated)..... look! reiterate to these fucking sons of bitches, because all you pigs take money..."
C: "yes sir, thats what they are telling me..."
M: (interrupting and pissed) "look. you get with the program, or you go first, get it?!"
C: "no, sir."
M: "what???"
C: "no sir, we dont have to take it there."
M: "well then get with the fucking program, because it will come down on you, hard, and you fucking know it. understand?"
C: (meek as fuck) "no sir, we dont have to take it there."
M: "well if you want friendship, you have a great fucking friend here, but if not, then you can very well go fuck your mother goddammit!"
C: "no, i know sir..."
M: "i am fed the fuck up that you fuckers dont understand"
C: "sir, you know me, and you know that with me, you have friendship"
M: "well thats what i find so strange, fucker, i understand, i know you have people, and family and shit like that, so get with the fucking program"
C: (meek as fuck again) "i know this, sir...."
M: (again, pissed off and interrupting) "i dont want you to turn off this goddamn phone and i will be calling it again and see if you fucks didnt calm the fuck down..."
C: "sir, right now, i am going to call...."
M: (interrupting) "all of them! all of them, in general, dumbass, settle them the fuck down...."
C: "i will make some calls, and then i will call you back at this number, sir, that you are calling me from...."
M: (interrupting) "no, no, no, dont you call this number, i will call you, whenever i have time."
C: "as you say, sir"
M: "but dont you turn off your phone, or i will construe that as negativity"
C: "nooo. no sir, i will send you a message"
M: "alright then, i leave it up to you to pass on for them to settle the fuck down"
C: "yes sir, you know me sir, and you know there is respect sir..."
M: "alright then, and from here to there, also. sorry for the bad language but..."
C: "yes sir, i will tell the guys"
M: "alright. i leave it up to you. tell them to settle down, and that that, is coming from me."
C: "ok"
M: "alright"
if proceso has the involved parties correct, this chief got shit on, and that was over the phone. i can only imagine if this were in person. peace
Thanks for the translation!
DeleteThanks dude,always appreciate the effort to translate,gracias amigo
DeleteM "Zeta one?"
DeleteElemental, but keep trying honey, we are grateful for the help
Oh WOW. I speak Spanish too, and I have to tell you that your translation is exactly what they said word by word. Is almost like if you were Mencho and the Comander at the same time but the English version.
DeleteMaybe he is Mencho!!! He posts on here too!!
DeleteLol, After the phone conversation the commander runs to the restroom to change his drawers cause he done shitted all over himself.
DeleteYes! Good translation man! I think you'd be a great addition to BB!
DeleteGreat translation!
DeleteIf you would like to translate the narrative on some videos that come in we would appreciate the help. Email me at chivis.martinez@hushhmail.com
He clearly says he has no money why does no one mention that ?
DeleteOh my gosh you are the best translator I have seen in recent years. I do hope you do this more often.
DeleteI'd like to say THANK YOU! :)
DeleteI can't speak for others, but I come here fairly often looking for news and information. Most of the time all who take the time and make the effort to post stories and news articles here do a wonderful job. But, there are many times that I read these and am left wondering 'what does that mean'? Taking nothing away from all of the contributors on this site, 'cuz I have nothing but respect for them, I'd say you would be a big and valuable asset to have onboard the BB site. I wish I had your language skills! :)
7:18 that was juan grabiel, güey.
DeleteI think you got the wrong tape.
the only thing missing is the strong bad words in spanish, mexicans would sound like spoiled babies asking for their bottle if they say their insults en ingles, güey.
jaja...poor "EL Translator Guy" looks like we have begun a petition to encourage his joining BB.... :) I love his added color to the translation.
Deletee.g.
C: (reluctant as fuck, and after a moment) "yes sir, i will tell them to stand down"
I LOVE IT
PS Nothing wrong with Tex's translation. He did it straight up, I do the same. I just think the color added brings a different dimension, closer to "being there"
DeleteI think this is a scene from señor de los cielos he forgot the
ReplyDeleteARREE!!!!!
The commander will end up dead because of this leaked audio
ReplyDeleteDamn Señor Mencho Got It On Lock hahaha ni a los de sinaloa les tiene miedo siempre a la orden la nueva generacion el de las 6 p's
ReplyDeleteSe Mira que no, that's why chapos sons where released
Delete8:36 una cortesia, siempre se agradece, es mejor para los negocios aunque sean chuecos, nomás los animales, los policias y las 'juersaz armadazzz' se la pasan matando a lo pendejo.
DeleteLowly ignorant mencho seems to be more intelligent and a better person than epn and his foreign university educated geniuses and his 'schools of the amerikkkas' trained melitary.
muerto to mencho, gov will take care of this trash soon.
ReplyDeleteMencho...you can't even control Jalisco 100% and you want to invade Veracruz on the other side of the coast??? AL RATO VAS A MAMAR
ReplyDeleteVeracruz, jalisco, michoacan, estado de mexico, chihuahua, sinaloa, sonora the bc peninsula, puebla chiapas, oaxaca, guerrerk and los pinos all are in the bag, guanajuato queretaro and others were left for later, because they don't matter all that much
DeleteSinaloa chihuahua estado de Mexico Oaxaca Puebla Chiapas all those places don't even know who Mencho is lol much less are under his control. Cjng operate in Jalisco michoacan and Guerrero that's where they have influence but even than don't control any of those states fully not even 75% they are the hyped cartel.
DeleteCross out sinaloa sonora and chihuahua
DeleteSinaloa? Sonora? Chihuahua? You're on crack, cjng has a firm grasp on tijuana, jalisco, andmichoacan. Mencho would shit his pants if he stepped foot in Sinaloa
Delete9:07 Like i said....he can't even control Jalisco completely. The cleanup should start at home and finished. He cant even finish clean his state of zetas and sinaloa. Pendejo MENCHO
Delete1:05 The mosquitos may be bothering la mencha, but he seems to be thriving and surviving, at least until the new "presidente" comes in with a new can begging for donations, as for now, epn and alfredo castillos de kagada cleared michoacan for la mencha and his ass, and no Conejos or general burrolas seems to be making any waves when it comes to La Mencha, ya saben quien es su papá, aaight?
DeleteFrom his voice im getting an older and much heavier guy than that outdated picture of him. But damn he sure had the homie shook
ReplyDeleteSo you can tell who's fat lol let me guess you sound skinny?
Delete1:12 sounds like a girl to me.
DeleteIf this is true he (or she) sounds like a straight up bitch.
ReplyDeleteThe Jalisco police force needs to be immediately removed and arrested for corruption and collusion as active participants to murder, kidnapping, rape, drug trafficking and the list goes on.
ReplyDeleteCollusion,,,who would do such a thing.. Wink wink
DeleteChapete what are you doing here?don't you supposed to be in prison now...?
Delete3:28 a dream come true, to create a vacuum,
Delete--the polesia nazional is jumping up and down in their flea market army surplus boots, another plaza to come kidnap for ransom, extort the citizens and murder them at will, they are the tool of zetas from the start, epn and enrique francisco galindo ceballos and miguel angel osorio chong now Elite Zetas pretending the presidential chair...
--This mexican gestapo extends its foot print, but it is not better than the narco cartels, according to the clandestine mass graves in coahuila, morelos, guerrero, tamaulipas, chihuahua, el DF, estado de mexico, and veracruz...
Mencho sounds mean lol
ReplyDeleteHe's a ruthless killer who has had people tortured and makes millions of dollars by selling poison to people.
DeleteSo yeah, I'd say he is mean...
People should be able to pay a tax and fines and retire, no?
DeleteThe syndicates would be stronger and more decent, and you'd have less desperados in your hoods, did you see Machete? He is about 80 and still working pá los frijoles y la mota, all he needed was a chance, or a break...
El Senor De Los Gallos has a large and well equiped army this is not some antrax corrido garbage .CJNG have proven their military training and tactics and capacity more than once .The police Commander is scared and has a right to be .
ReplyDeleteYou mean training on how to ambush?
Delete3:55 most are Coroneles people remember that and Sinaloa Capos moved to Jalisco...
DeleteCoroneles on esteroids, but I still wonder if la Mencha betrayed Nacho Coronel, will you ask him for me?
Delete2:55 at least la mencha does not plant victims to ambush like the mexican "policias judiciales" did when they murdered the farm workers planted for the purpose in... Tanhuato?
Delete--Policia judicial federal, army and "fuerza ciudadana" (?) Caught them early in the morning when they were asleep.
--The mexican government has now CLASSIFIED THE INFORMATION, "NOT BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE", BUT TO HIDE SOMETHING...
--FOR 5 YEARS, FOR NOW...
--"a step backwards" said OAS HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH DELEGATE VIVANCO...
Remember, jalisco, michoacan. Morelos, guanajuato hicieron llorar y rendirse a los pinchis federales muchas veces cuando eran Los Cristeros, hasta que El General Goroztieta aceptó hacer las paces y ahi se lo chingaron como a un Cesar Augusto Sandino cualquiera, o a Emiliano Zapata o Pancho Villa, si El Dotor Mireles nunca hubiera aceptado platicar con los federales podria andar libre...
DeleteLa Mencha has work to do, abranse a la verdolaga estorbos.
Mencho is alot more powerful than chapo
ReplyDeleteChapo is not near menchos level
Deleteyou mean mencho is no where near chapo
Delete6:43 you are right. Chapo is much bigger than Mencho. Chapo doesnt have to call low level police chiefs and make personal threats lmao. CJNG is losing power thats for sure. The cops are clearly harassing CJNG members because they are weak.
DeleteThat's how mencho punks chapo
Delete4:15 n 6:43 how the fuck you got the nerve to say mencho is more powrrful then chapo jaja z40 had tha police shook up like this as well..as well as cdg this type of talk and threathning the mexican authorities has been going on for as long as narco wars..yhe real power is chapo you wanna know how dumb asses,when the president of mexico felipe calderon goes to you chapo i will release you so you can fight the zetas and keep them in check thats power..no president has done that to any other cartel but cds..proven and facts..thats why chapo was released in 2001...second chapos sons get kidnapped and peña nieto his goberment the whole mexico goes on and alert as if a nuclear bomb was coming and they couldnt stop it hell even the usa got involved,why ? Because the power of el chapo...proven and facts..so the next time you wanna smoke or snort what you put down to write the dumd ass post go do your research,ask borderland beat and its affiliates cause borderland best is in tune and knee deep conected with the narco world...thank you for your time..
DeleteYeah that's why men hi has to call himself to beg for the cops to start listening and do what he says
DeleteForeal Menchos is already having problems with cops chaps and el mayo have the whole military bought and some some marines and some presidents , Governors
DeleteMencho is a bitch.
DeletePeople who compare mayo, azul and chapo to fucking mencho are retarded. He has 2 maybe 3-4 years in the big leagues where as the other 3 have been at the top for decades. Mencho could reach their level but it'll be 10 years from now and not everyone lasts that long in the business.
Delete"Yes Sir"
ReplyDelete"OK Sir"
wow
That's a joke of a audio! They can't even upgrade his mug picture, they are going to know recognize voice hahaha
ReplyDeleteI Half a agree here folks
DeleteEste audio está mejor que el del pinche mario marin "el gober precioso" y sus jotadas tortilleras de la botellitas de 'cognac' del kamil nacif and succar kuri
Deleteas you guys can see once you are MAYOS enemy you are going down this leak is not a coincidence. The true power of CDS is beginning to show.
ReplyDeleteMayo has no power he is weak thats why he turns in people to stay safe not even his own sons were spared.
DeleteI believe it, the power of snitching... Sinaloas best weapon lol
DeleteBlatantly saying CDS will ask their daddy the GOV to help them. But I agree this leak is bad
DeleteIt's not snitching it's having connections friendships with very powerful people involved with the government politics and CDS has them
DeleteIt's called having connections. Snitching is telling on someone for a crime they commited with or without you. Putting a squeeze on your enemy without going to war is ART OF WAR 101. Mancha and CJNG jockers don't know about that cleary.
DeleteI'm pretty sure someone in Mexico government or someone without being authorize let this recording out. Of course they know the location of the leaders of cartels. They have the technology to track their position using phone towers to pin point their location. It's just messed up they don't do nothing just for the money and let innocent people die
ReplyDeletenice article, homes
ReplyDeleteThere's no way this is Mencho. I highly doubt Mexico would be sharing this audio if it were him. Plus, like someone already mentioned, there isn't a current mugshot for the public to view let alone his voice. This doesn't add up.
ReplyDeleteSomeone is showing him that they have the higher hand. The goverment will always have the higher hand. This guy's days are numbered. He sounds like any other peasant who would sound if they have power and money. He doesnt know that this is a game of chess not checkers.
DeleteYeah it's just a conspiracy. Some other Mexican cowboy is just using Mencho's name to intimidate the Jalisco police. Yeah, that's it. There is much more to this.
DeleteOh shut the hell up, there woulden't be a current mug shot of Chapo either if he had not been captured so many times & gave a freaking interview to Kate Del Castillo & Rolling Stone mag
DeleteChapo and his sons are stars
DeleteTHATS REAL POWER
ReplyDeleteHow is that real power when him himself has to call and he keeps saying you guys keep not listening and doing what you want
DeleteRemember la tuta? Im starting to see the pattern and im sure mencho will go down pretty soon within a couple months
ReplyDeleteRemember Lazcano? I HOPE it ends that way
DeleteMencho sounds like El Ranchero Chido.
ReplyDeletePorque no le hablo asi a el mayo?
ReplyDeleteDam that's funny, maybe he did
DeleteLol that's true why didn't he talk like that to el mayo ?
DeleteNobody knows what he told mayo, but they sure made some adjustments because even chapos mom decided to move back to la tuna. Chapos sons are going to stay away from mencho territory too I bet. That's why mencho kidnaped those dumb kids.
DeleteIts pretty obvious he was like that cop when it came to Mayo I'm sorry sir I'll release chapos kids sir lol
DeleteThat's not Mencho you are fools. First off the guy speaking doesn't even have a Michoacano accent and doesn't even sound like someone who is from that area they speak in a very different manner just watch a video of La tuta speaking, El chango or even the interviews that were given to the autodefensas even Cemies bitch ass criminals way of speaking. All criminals except for Mireles and Hiplito.
ReplyDeleteYou sir is an idiot
DeleteThere is an unmistakable michoacan-guanajuato accent, but when you have been hanging on the US, in prison, with jalisquillos, and sinaloas, some of it changes, eso si, mexicans te mandan a la verga en un dos por tres, the americans the chingan con un 2x4, the chilangos con el dos de bastos, wachense las carteras!
DeleteYou are mistaken. I'm from Michoacan. He sounds like a Michoacan no doubt. Someone that has traveled and accent changed but its clear he's still got that accent.
DeleteMencho was born in Sinaloa, not Michoacan.
DeleteThat recording is a snapshot of what can happen in Mexico. There is no place to hide, no "Batphone"to call. If asked, you fall in line. If not, you will realize how impotent you are. In about an hour, they will know where you are, either by asking the local punteros or they can GPS pinpoint your cell phones location. They will notify the local police and ask them to leave the area. Young men will scout your location, to give the sicarios details, who is with you, ect... Next you will notice discrete vehicles, with four men cruising, your street, waiting for an opportunity. As soon as you "slip", you will be "picked up" and put in a "safe house" to be spoken to. Neighbors may see the whole thing unfold,but they can do nothing, other than discuss the mistakes you may have made to get yourself in that situation and pray for you. For all of you tough guys that say your "no bitch", you have no clue. For what it's worth, I am no cyber warrior from Mayberry. I live in a CJNG Plaza, not nut hugging, just saying. That audio is frightening.
ReplyDeleteHow can CJNG pinpoint the location of the police commander through his cellphone by GPS? Explain por favor.
DeleteNomas faltaba que dijera, ahuevo! Para confirmar 100% que es mencho jajaja
ReplyDeleteWasn't RCQ asking Mencho for protection a while back?
ReplyDeleteYeah so did Azul and he kicked Azul out of Jalisco!
Delete"Wasn't RCQ asking Mencho for protection a while back?"
DeleteI read that was just a rumor.
They never asked for protection that's a lie El azul use to run michoacan back in the days I highly doubt rcq will be asking for protection also
DeleteChema and Gold Cup was this really mencho ?? Stupid question to ask but curiosity kills th cat
DeleteWhat does Mencho mean?
ReplyDeleteLike how chapo means "shorty". What is a mencho?
Short for Nemesio.
Deletehes about to go down for sure the gov is about to pull his jalisco support all the police force there going to make that police commander squeal like a pig before menchos goons gets to him then you will see some police get fired this is going to cause certain cartel cells try to move in on there turf.
ReplyDeleteBut they can tell if it was the police commanders voice. The police would have not set this up as it infers to corruption. Why would the commander let this get out if he knew it could implicate his people. Maybe he wanted to show what they are up against. You would still have to prove corruption and someones rants would not do that I guess. Maybe it was found by a remote source and recorded. I remember years a go I had a device that could intercept cell calls and I could hear both conversations. I bought it at Radio Shack.
ReplyDeleteThe policia nazional is on a campaign to kick local police and their chiefs, they want to do their own extorting and micromanage it very well for the federales, they could have intercepted the call, the PN IS HUNGRY...
Deleteand armed with this evidence, let me guess! Nothing done about it. Just a story written. The moral of the story is move out of this area because you will not have police protection. Gotta love it.
ReplyDeleteI can almost guarantee its not him because every other word a michoacano says is vali..so you readers no sean pendejos y habladores
ReplyDeleteEn su vocabulario (no solo vulgar, pero extremadamente falto) se nota la falta de educacion de esta persona, por eso no se puede culpar mucho, es producto de una sociedad podrida, es un holor fetido que ahora mata... a donde esta llegando el gran pueblo Mexicano.
ReplyDelete10:28 la mencha could be more educated and instead of threatening people con mandarlos a la verga he could be carpet bombing them and the collateral damages, but with a harvard a yale or MIT EDUCATION coupled with reckless abandon and a few prayers
DeleteFalta de educacion? Pos NO es licenciado ni profesor......ES UN NARCO. Para ser narco no necesitas bachillerato.
DeleteWith a bachillerato and a masters degree or two, you can launder a lot of billions and billions of dollars, like from the Cayman Islands, have several houses, protected by elite police and your own security guards, buy your own vote counting/vote changing computers and have time to be a church bishop without hiding, harvard graduate Mitt Romney, heir of the Marriott and the Hiltons knows all about it, his family was in on the Habanana Hilton, weres money was made off tourism and the mob way before the 50's and the Castros...
Delete--La Mencha, la chapa and el mayo will have to do withut..
You've got 2 give it 2 Mencho. That motherfucker has panache. - El Sol Perdido
ReplyDeleteman. narcos in power. put mencho on netflix!
ReplyDeleteI couldn't take this serious lol. When he keeps repeating who he is... "Soy mench guey" como dijo señor, que es menso? Lol
ReplyDeleteSounds like the guy from the movie "El Infierno"..the dad!!..lol
ReplyDeleteHe sounds like he spent time in California, which Mencho did for years, in the Modesto area, from his style of speech and cadence....Hard to imagine this is what the elusive Mencho sounds, because it's so similar to many, but I believe it may be true.
ReplyDeleteThats crazy mencho lived in the Modesto area?
DeleteThat is where I am from/live, I know there used too be lot of people around here from Michocan and Jalisco they used to put stickers on the back windows of their trucks back in the day(5-10 years ago) of that state they were from but that was just telling cops to pull them over so you don't see it anymore...
Crazy though that a big narco boss probably lived within 10-15 miles of me..
I certainly would not Mencho calling me as am a coward. Now if my wife answered the phone she would tell him to get a life and go screw himself.
ReplyDeleteWell corruption. And not being able to enforce the law. Manipulation and death. Plata or plomo. Either way there is no way around it....like el mencho said. Son unos puercos para el dinero. i guess they get paid good to be corrupt.that the reason why mencho was pissed off...don't take the cash and get the bullets. Pobre poly.
ReplyDeleteI am awaiting confirmation but it appears the police commander has been arrested.
ReplyDeleteDid the commander record the convo was their phone tapped?
ReplyDeleteCommandante perrita recorded it. He's a snitch
DeleteThe fact he has to tell a low level police commander of a shitty lake resort to let his guys make money shows how low level They're becoming
ReplyDeleteMicromanagement. Chapo does this too. You have a lot to learn.
DeleteMencho sounds ignorant and impatient. I would think someone with his level of power would sound focused and smarter.
ReplyDeleteDid you hear Chapo speak. Sounded like a nerd talking to a hot chick. He was embarrassed to even look at the camera.
DeleteSorry but this is Fake... Mencho doesnt ever ever ever call himself Mencho! He has another Code name everyone knows him as!!!
ReplyDeleteWhat is that name and how do you know that? I've never heard of this procedure. I know some of the guys talk using a code.
DeleteExactly, this looks like a police set up, there are even narcos impersonating police officers, trying to bust people and then rob the grameros or put them to work for them selling their shit
DeleteNow the chief is going to be replaced by an implacable army captain that will rob everybody he gets his paws on, seen that before...
Troll alert at 2:13, you are full of caca menso.
DeleteSounds like there on his ass now guess mayos pull in the higharchys is real once mayo hopped in the beef I saw this coming
ReplyDeleteHahaha he should have used those balls when el M grande called him.. mencho will be dead or caught by the end of the year...
ReplyDeleteEl gobierno sabe donde esta el mencho y pueden escuchar todas las lllamadas.cualquiera puede hacerlo en la Radio Shack tiene ese equipo
ReplyDeleteReally? Exactly what equipment?Explain me por favor.
DeleteCNGJ TAKING OVER!
ReplyDeleteTaking over of wat ????? For reals think back wit all the great capo's they dint took anything just death or a room in a jail that's it o and a lil place in hell too
DeleteMencho is starting to sound like La Tuta before he was captured. Threatening regular beat cops and such. He should have never messed with Chapo's juniors.
ReplyDeleteHeres a great story from our very own CHIIIIVIIISSSSSSSSSS that sheds some light on Menchos background..
ReplyDeletehttp://www.borderlandbeat.com/2014/09/is-mencho-replacing-chapo-as-drug.html?m=1
thank you very much!
DeleteSoy Mencho Wei !
ReplyDeleteEl patron se respecta !
CJNG El Rambo
The audio is a little sketchy, but Mencho may be more hands on because he is younger and wanting to grow his power.
ReplyDeleteThe next generation wants their place and it maybe CJNG is running head into CDS.
Vamos a ver!!!
FROM PROCESO
ReplyDeleteThe police command who the leader of the cjng Cartel, Nemesio Oceguera Cervantes, alias "El Mencho" ordered "relax" their subordinates, was removed from office and arrested.
Good, now they need to go for the rest of the subordinates, because just like Mencho said. They all get money from him.
DeleteYou would never hear Benjamin Arellano or Amado Carillo talk like that.
DeleteYou mean demencio chivis...saludos
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WOW, A SPEEDY TRIAL, heheheee
DeleteIf the caller had said soy tu papa the chief would be doing g life now, puro pinchi cuento y trampas, count on crime against innocent civilians in jalisco to increase, this is going by the book...
Viva mi compa el mencho
ReplyDeleteAfter the other cartels find out this commander is on the take they will roll in and give him a choice to switch sides or it's plata or plomo for him. Mencho just made the mistake of giving away his connection in Jalisco not to mention the other corrupt politicos will want their share.
ReplyDeleteI like menchos style!
ReplyDeleteSoy el mencho,and i dont approve this audio recording.
ReplyDeleteMancho May have power but he's very disorganized
ReplyDeleteThat statement is false,a person does not get so much power by being disorganized much less in the drug trade.
Delete2:10 are you going to send a few more billion dollars to the FUERZAS ARMADAS REVOLUCIONARIAS de enrique peña nieto?
ReplyDelete--Because their revolution consists of stealing the functions of local police cops and local drug dealers for themselves.
NoW the police chief can go and work for the good guys, cjng...
This was all planned in advance but guess what? Tonight at 7:00PM there will be a public presentation by El Presidente Javier Degollado in the Lake Chapala auditorium with questions and answers to issues of concern. I wonder if he will show up now.
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