A life sentence is rare in drug trafficking cases, having been imposed in less than one-third of one percent of all drug trafficking cases.
This is a "determinate life sentence"....meaning life without parole. He will spend the remainder of his natural life in prison, unless he wins on appeal. . He is 46.
Alfredo Beltran Leyva
was handed down a “life” sentence today.
Judge Richard J Lyon, imposed the sentence in a Washington D.C.
courtroom.
A life sentence is rare
in drug trafficking cases, having been imposed in less than one-third of one
percent of all drug trafficking cases.
And the sentence of life is fairly rare in all cases, representing apx
2.5 percent of all cases in the Bureau of Prisons (BOP).
Alfredo,
had requested a sentence of 25 years. He was 35 years old at the time of his 2008 Mexico
arrest. He has been incarcerated continually
since that date. Alfredo, the baby
brother of Arturo and Hector Beltran Leyva, leaders of the Beltran Leyva, was
betrayed by El Chapo Guzmán, who provided information to authorities, that resulted in
the arrest of Alfredo. El Chapo swapped
the information in exchange for the prison release of his son Archivaldo. Archivaldo had been incarcerated three years
by 2008, with little hope of being released for years. He was released within 90 days of Alfredo’s
arrest with the government declaring the action was the result of the case
having “no evidence”.
Alfredo’s brother
Arturo was enraged at the betrayal, and a split between the two groups and
brutal war commenced.
It is suspected
that is was on the orders of Arturo, that El Chapo’s son Edgar was gunned
downed in 2008 at a Culiacán shopping center parking lot. (left)
The two families had
been very close, with multiple marriages within and between, members within the
Beltran Leyva and Guzmán family.
Alfredo was once
married to El Chapo’s first cousin, and currently married to a Chapo niece.
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| Archivaldo Guzman leaves prison 2008 |
Judge Lyon signed the
order of forfeiture this week. Without
supporting hard evidence, and relaying of the word/testimony of such credible
witnesses as Edgar La Barbie Valdez, judge Lyon accepted the claim of the
United States that Alfredo has 10 Billion dollars in assets.
There has been a recent
trend in the claim of ridiculous amounts of forfeitures. Since 2013, three CDG defendants had 10B forfeitures
against them, and El Chapo has one in the amount of 14B.
One can only guess the
reason why this trend has been established.
Perhaps to counter bad publicity, and low support for the handling of
the drug war including minimal favorable results. Those who are not schooled in the drug war,
are more likely to accept the inflated forfeiture figures, and surmise that the
actions by the U.S. government is somehow paying off getting narco bigs off the
street.
Arturo Alfredo one of the narco “Goliaths”
Appeal Mochomo Beltran Leyva by Chivis Martinez on Scribd
“Alfredo Beltran Leyva
is one of the ‘Goliaths’ of Mexican drug traffickers known for his savage
business tactics and responsible for flooding the United States with illegal
drugs,” said Special Agent in Charge James J. Hunt of the Drug Enforcement
Administration (DEA) New York Division. “This sentencing exemplifies law
enforcement’s commitment to bringing justice to the victims of drug abuse
through successful prosecutions of the highest echelon of drug traffickers.
“Alfredo Beltran Leyva
spent decades at the head of a criminal organization responsible for
trafficking large amounts of cocaine and methamphetamine into the U.S.,” said
Assistant Director Richardson. “Today’s sentencing marks an end to Alfredo
Beltran Leyva's reign of terror, and demonstrates that the FBI and our
law enforcement partners around the globe will aggressively pursue and bring
justice to those individuals who use violence and intimidation to threaten our
communities.”
Alfredo is appealing
his sentence.
In December, Alfredo Guzman Beltran aka "El Mochomito" was arrested in
Mexico. He is the son of Alfredo. Leading up to the arrest, the younger Beltran
was in an intense conflict with the sons of El Chapo
Damn barbie...
ReplyDeleteDamn Barbie what? It is all politics and nothing but politics! You notice how the FBI, DEA etc. never ever claim to have made a dent in supply of drugs??? They dont claim that because despite their efforts the amount (and strenght and choice) has aky rocketed. Reality is as if BECAUSE their efforts the drugs business is booming.
DeleteLa envidia mata.
ReplyDelete2:12 don't worry none, La Chiva loves us all the same,
DeleteMe specially, Me, but I would not want my beloved Chivis wishing for 25 years for me on my behalf...
There has to be a lot more to this????
ReplyDeleteThey sold him out!
ReplyDeleteCHAPO fucked up the game!
ReplyDeleteChapos been a documented rat since 1998.
Delete1998 IF la chapa has been a documented rat since 1998, the Alfredo Beltran Leyva was allowed to operate for 10 years, what took so long? Was his contribution to the money making operations needed that much?
DeleteAnd on the mexican side they had nothing else to charge him with, and "was about to be released", I guess it was along shot to make charges stick on the US where it could be Cinder ella accused of "savage tactics" by the little men...
La chapa was in prison on spurious charges.
The CAF members like el benja and el mon were also being falsely accused of the posadas ocampo murder.
Why was archivaldo in prison and why was him released?
To make the rat charges stick to el chapo?
Looks like it, because archival dos charges would not stick.
The US government has been going to incredible lengths to protect the mexican satraps of the mexican narco-government for a looong time, including since they murdered kiki camarena on orders of the "US rogue agents" running Iran/contra drug trafficking under guise of CIA AGENTS with ample wide collaboration of the mexican intelligence puppet DFS. plenty of mexican army officers and federal police, while salinas waited in the wings to be fingered "presidential candidate" and moving on to murdering hundreds of opponent Cuauhtemoc Cardenas election workers.
But salinas made one mexican very happy, Carlos Slim Helu, whose brother Julian was in on the tick of it since he was a DFS COMMANDER
Sinaloenses are documented rats since forever.
Delete8:09 tell them the real. All they can say is chapo snitched or he's a rat when that's not the case at all there's politicians behind this and these idiots are street level. So all there little brains know is chapo snitched LOL
Delete1998: Chapo gets in contact with the DEA to try to work out a early release deal by giving up information on rival cartels. The dirty rat was mad that he was sitting behind bars amd others still had there freedom to operate.
Delete11:20 let's see the deal on paper or videos or recordings or was it a "tacit deal" to let la chapa escape as soon as president fox got sworn in, and it worked fine for 12 years until his contributions to epn campaign got spent.
Delete--In any case, middlemen are famous for keeping only about 10% of the money drug trafficking produces, including the farming expenses and transportation, buy weapons and deposit their winnings in some bank from where the government can confiscate it whenever they want.
CITI bank is famous for money laundering and for paying fines of billions of dollars, worth about 19% of the money they launder, same goes for chase, bcci, ubs, hsbc, etc, all the pinchis bancos do, then they lose the money and the government pays them their loses, but if I run a bouncing check for 5 dollars it is my ass in the chopping block and a bad credit record. I will have to buy me a senator or a congressman to work it out, I have like ten pounds of pennies.
@11:20AM Chapo debriefed on the Arellano Félix money laundering operations in Tijuana. Pharmacies , money exchange houses, hotels, anything that was a lucrative washing machine the AFO had tentacles around it. La Pantera Ivonne Soto was washing millions for the empresa AFO during that time.
Deletehe will probably die in jail...nice life to be a cartel boss. beside zambada, they all finished in jail or dead...
ReplyDeleteThis is not over. Who knows zambada might be found death or apprehended tomorrow.
DeleteFirst off he definitely will die in a cage. But be there no mistake ADX is not a jail. It is the concrete version of Hell.
DeleteYeh, yeh, Asustame pantión...
DeleteEl Mochomo es hombre y no se ha muerto, he may get lucky on the appeals or not, it speaks volumes about the US courts when somebody can still be railroaded on hearsay and trumped up charges by the US government or the "so-called-Prezident".
Telling the judges about your charges and what to do in your case
They fucked him!!!!
ReplyDeleteIf a gangmember kills someone, they get life. This guy is responsible for atleast one death, and thats being generous. We all know he was responsible for a lot of stuff that went down in mexico. He pretty much got sentenced what he deserved.
Delete223. Isn't life in prison considered 20 years in some or most cases in the u.s.a.?
DeletePerhaps a gang member would be sentenced to life for a murder, but Alfredo was not charged with murder. You serve the sentence for the crime the government can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you have committed. Not for crime you may have done.
DeleteNo, life in prison in the USA is 60 years. He is 46 if he makes it to 106 he'll be a free man.
Delete"Life" is 25 years, I believe.
DeleteHe will get out after 25 years. The punishment doesn't fit the crime. Lots of old drug lords from the 70s and 80s have been getting out recently, including the famous Queens NY drug lord Alpo Martinez.
He got life! not 25 to life but life he's never coming out poor dude.
Deletea life sentence in the federal system means u never get out.....a life sentence in some state courts u can get out in 20 or 25 years.....each state is different.
DeleteAlso Martinez got out early because he snitched
DeleteSnitches are cultivated, not to control the crime of drug trafficking, but to steal it.
Deleteproof, there is more drug trafficking to the US and more drug addiction than ever...
Alpo martinez , became a snitch while on federal custody
Delete4:37 . In the older days 50 was life in Texas . That is based on parole eligibility . You became eligible for parole on a fifty at the same time as any larger sentence . That's old days . 20 is surely not life . If your old enough to go to the pen 50 will be most if not more than the rest of your life .
DeleteNo, pos Charles Manson ya mero ajusta 60 años en el bote, has been eligible for parole for 40 years, had been in death row for a few, AND HE DID NOT MURDER ANYBODY!!!
DeleteI REALLY HOPE LA MOCHOMA GETS 25 on appeal, or less,
becoming a born again televangelista may help, it helped Al Bundy until he confessed with tears on his eyes to "have sinned" by taking the wife out for dinner.
Just remember the life sentence handled down javier arellano felix...he had it computed having been sentenced an serving time A.D.M prison
ReplyDeleteExactly that's the first thing that came to mind. Although one has to consider that there is a very different administration in DC making the calls now and they instruct the justice dept on how to handle business. Mochomo may have gotten screwed due to the timing of his extradition and case proceedings. Either way, he's got to be feeling hopeless right about now.
DeleteJavier Arellano Felix, got witness protection for ratting on his older brother n Cartel..ain't no life sentence here.
Delete5:30 Javier Arellano was taken to his brother for a conference and exit interview before doing the dirty deed.
DeleteWe'd like to know how are Don Chuyito Labra Avilés appeals doing, he got like 99 years to go? He lucky he not "el" chuy
U think it's a move for him to start talking??
ReplyDeleteit's too late for that tbh.
DeleteSame thing happened to Javier Arellano he had life and he snitched and his sentence was reduced he will be out soon..
DeleteYep, even with a life sentence, if he is willing to give valuable information, it can reduce his sentence enormously.
Delete@2:28 you mean snitching?
Delete6:43 P.M to put it in it's perspective,YES! Snitching is how you give back your life sentence here in the U.S..Also by bringing someone or a few other people in..This is done by setting someone up who is on the outside,while you are inside..Give the Fed's enough and you can see the light of day again..
DeleteI hate to agree with you but you are totally right. Fed want drugs or cash to turn the blind eye. If not they used the system to burry you alive.
Delete2:54 PM,theres' a huge difference between Javier Arellano & Beltran Leyva.Arellano was arrested in International Waters by the U.S. Beltran Leyva is an extradition case & Mexican Nationals were not eligible for either a Death or a Life sentence.
DeleteToo bad Mexico can't send their own people to prisons for committing grave crimes and atrocities.
ReplyDeleteAs Chapo's escapes showed, the politicians there are all too happy to accept bribes.
Mexico not being able to prosecute its own citizens for terrible crimes speaks is a perfect of this ineptitude.
2:28 here you go again blaming "aaal the mexicans"
DeleteAccording to reports el mochomo has been in prison on trumped up charges, AND I believe that a government of the people by the corrupt, for the moneyed that can have Dr Mireles in prison is all the example needed, in mexico it is no problem but the US government Don't know anything either, other than prison and fines, but it is the government, not "the mexicans"
2:28 "mexico" was taking control of shit in Michoacan,
DeleteBut the mexican narco-government the US owns, finances and bosses around sent its melitary, federal police, marinas, air force, state police, H3, viagras, cjng, the son of el Chango mendez, el cuñao del Chango mendez, el americano and el viceroy castillos de kagada to recover their bordello of blood and imprison the AD and their leader Dr Mireles "who was trying to conquer all of the american continent" Wuuuh!
Of course:
it is expected that "the mexicans" have learned THEIR LESSON...
What set Benajamin apart from Alfredo? Benjamin got 25yrs n 25yrs in Mexico???
ReplyDeleteI was thinking the same thing. Bengamin was a cartel leader. I think they made mochomo paid for arturo. Mochomo really got the bad end of the stick.
Deleteexactly what I thought. arturo was named in all the indictments, never alfredo. arturo from what we "know" would have deserved life....
Deletehey chivis. why do you always defend alfredo? let's be honest, he was a capo in beltran leyva organization. he's not innocent.
DeleteBenjamin is in Florida Detention Center, where is Alfredo going and why?? Chivis Benjamin was the leader of his Cartel?
DeleteCan you get info on Benjamin, to write letters to him?
DeleteDear 4:55, you are being blind and unfair. sorta like the justice system in this case. It is not about the defendant, and I said 25 years was a fair sentence...HE even says this. it is about fairness, and integrity of the system.
DeleteHe plead guilty
life sentences are rarely imposed. Take the list of rats set to testify. they never mentioned this defendant prior....any on that list deserve life before alfredo. if you have studied narco war for decades then you would /could see.
no one says he is innocent.
he is not an angel
he deserves a strong sentence
but not life.
They prob gsve him a tough sentence to give him no choice but to snitch and reduce or change sentence after
DeleteChivis it's because like that guy that comments all the time but sounds crazy said EPN and Genaro stole the beltrans business stop blaming chapo
DeleteChivis he was a criminal and there is no doubt in my mind that more than one person die on his orders. BLO are responsible for several deaths all over Mexico
DeleteYou said it yourself. It's all in your mind. Where are the facts? That is the foundation of our judicial system.
DeleteFourteen, including America and Cuba, have the death penalty on the books for drug traffickers but do not apply it in practice. Only in six countries—China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Vietnam, Malaysia and Singapore—are drug offenders known to be routinely executed, according to HRI's most recent analysis.Apr 28, 2015....there you go..life in prison is correct...
Delete25 years is what you get in the federal system with 9 ounces of Crack and a handgun. 50 grams used to be a automatic 10 year mandatory minimum. I was on a conspiracy case at age 18 with a 10-life level 32 offense. I'm not saying it's not excessive , but at his level what do you expect?
DeleteI just think he really got the bad end of the stick thanks to ARTURO. i think life in prison it way to much compared to all the lying informants. C.I or rats its not enough evidence to convict a man. Another thing most of his criminal career was in Mexico which means he should be in Mexico.
Delete@9:58 exactly These people don't understand. Just because other capos got lucky and got less time doesn't mean Mochomo didn't deserve life. They aren't sentenced on a curve.
Delete2:33 PM,Benjamin cooperated with the government & Beltran didnt.
Delete7:28 I know about sounding crazy and farfetched, but I feel like t&at is where truth is... all the "narcos" can't be beating up the mexican and american law enforcement alliance, just on the budget line, the narcos don't have that budget, fire power, human resources, vehicles or impunity, narcos don't have it, all they have is the government complicity, and that is all up to the government whose only excuse is to always blame the "biiig baaad narcos"
DeleteWhat is the evidence besides the testimony of criminals that El Mochomo committed any crimes that suggest a life sentence? Griselda Blanco got 10 freaking years for drug trafficking and for ordering the murder of at least 3 people. Even though the alleged number of murders is the hundreds. The US Feds know for a fact she killed 3 people on US soil and she still got 10 years. I guess if you are Colombian you get off on heinous crimes. If you are a Mexican drug dealer getting prosecuted under the Trump Administration you will get life just from hearsay. It a sad time we live when drug dealers get bigger sentences than child molesters, rapists and drunk drivers with multiple DWI's killing entire families on the road.
Deletehey chivis, I agree, el Mochomo was not innocent but no capo either. wonder why they nailed him but allowed people like chupeta a path back to the streets.
ReplyDeleteis this without parole? guess they did it because it was easy once he came to the united states.
from the u.s. government one of the documents chivis published here. CHAPO SNITCHED
ReplyDelete"Additionally, following the Defendant’s arrest, the Beltran Leyva DTO splintered off from the Sinaloa Cartel and a war ensued between the Beltran Leyva’s DTO and the leaders of the Sinaloa Cartel run by Joaquin “Chapo” Guzman Loera and Ismael “El Mayo” Zambada Garcia, who the Beltran Leyvas blamed for the Defendant’s (alfredo) arrest. This war resulted in extreme violence with the murder of thousands of individuals in Mexico"
They blamed but no proof
DeleteExactly merely speculation and hearsay. I have no problem reading Chapo dropped a dime which is different from snitching btw if someone ANYONE who is a government official on either side of the border confirm and go on record to this accusation..
DeleteInformation provided by Mexican drug lord Joaquin ‘El Chapo’ Guzman during interrogation following his extradition to the United States may have prompted the investigation and subsequent apprehension of Nayarit’s Attorney General.
DeleteYes geniuses there lacks video footage. and testimony from a dead guy, believe what you want, stay stupid and argumentative
DeleteI highly doubt.that nayarit thing this guy Veytia turned himself in because he flipped on to many people
DeleteArturo grew up with Chapo and he believed Chapo turned in Alfredo. Chapo never denied the accusation to Arturo's face. Chapo's response was "Alfredo needed to be sacrificed". If you ask me only a rat would respond in that way.
DeleteSo chapo had a hand on this?
ReplyDeleteIt was Vincentillo who ordered Macho Prieto to take out Cazares because he wanted a bigger piece of the meth business,and as you might of guessed, negotiations did not work and unfortunately Edgar was there at the time of the ambush.
ReplyDeletei have heard that scenario. the government of mexico contends the scenario in the post, the U.S. states in documents of why the split. they contend it was chapo/mayo because they were reponsible for mochomo arrest. causing the war. it seems plausible.
DeleteHave you heard they sent Macho Prieto to Sonora and then he ended up a paraplegic instead of being deceased in that ambush.If true,lucky or unlucky?
DeleteChivis the beltrans were doing deals with zetas behind the federations back. They caused the split
Delete"It seems plausible" yet no hard evidence chapo/mayo did him, on the same token i hope chapo gets life just like mochomo both are responsible por 1000s of mexican families pain
Delete3:40 it's true he still around
DeleteHey chivis since when you belive the mexican gov.or the usa gov. "They content" just like they content it was aburto who shot colosio !!!!
Delete3:45 the Zetas and BLO were going hard on each other during that time. So explain to me how they were making deals with each other? It is well documented CDS made their deal with the CDG before any deals were made with the BLO and Zetas.
DeleteMOCHOMO era otro pedo su jente lo keria y lo respetaban disen por Culiacán k si fuera estado el CHAPO no fuera nadien.....
ReplyDeleteEl chapo no era nadien analizen y veran el mayo y los beltran era los buenos en sinaloa . El arturo siempre dijo que el chapo era bien mentiroso
DeleteKe dices porke no entiendo lo que quieres decir
DeleteEl mayo Hermano El rey was gonna testify on mochomo I don't see any of chap people ratting on mochomo get it straight pendejo
DeleteSe dice "nadie"
Delete"Los Señores del Narco" explains how epn and genarco garcia luna used the hangars of el barbas in toluca airport, before turning into enemies of el barbas and getting the army andarias to kill him, if epn and garcia luna survive and appear to be the New Rich Kids On The Block, it is because, they must have stolen something from somebody.
Delete--Even la chapa was in prison for about 5 years "because the CAF tried to murder him", trumped up on trumped up charges...
El barbas did not "own the toluca mexico airport" all the mexican airports were owned by the government, but controlled by "El Comandante Olvidado" Lic. JULIAN SLIM HELU, after he got out of the mexican DFS. no wonder his brotha' is now the richest man in the world, CARLOS SLIM HELU, ALWAYS ON TOP OF "THE SITUATION" and with plenty of replacements...if they want to fight over the left overs or the table scraps and the bread crumbs, it is up to them...
DeleteI don't think this is right, when Benja Arellano Felix and Osiel Cardenas got 25 years, as far as I know only the latter cooperated.
ReplyDeleteMaaaan please, osiel Cardenas snitched like you have no idea, that guy sang so much the opera don't have shit on his singing. He sang on all his own cartel infrastructure that's how he got his sentence really reduced and that's why is all fucked up in that cartel right now. Ask me how I know.... I know 1 of the lawyers that worked on his case. I speak nothing but the truth just like when I told you all how gallito from the knight templars was living in Houston and y'all saw his instagram.
DeleteI know, a lot of the details of his cooperation were unveiled after that lawyer was executed in Southlake. Millions in cash brought across the border from Zeta safehouses, Zeta leaders thinking they were buying a favorable sentence. Instead, they financed his cooperation and secured his deal. In that sentence, Benjaman Arellano Felix, would be the former, unless I am mistaken in my grammar, which could be a possibility.
DeleteChivas do you know what is chupeta getting out of this...less sentence or walking free...he's is a big figure in Colombia underworld an smart too
ReplyDeletenot sure I would have to check pacer, but for sure he will get a sentence, how much don't know. he was the fave of the prosecution ...point and he ratted...true did not matter jajaja
DeleteCrazy how chupeta tried to kill and also killed people from Norte Del Valle cartel for snitching and now he's the biggest rat
DeleteWhy is that so crazy? It's not about the principle (don't snitch); it's all about what's best for me and mine. You want to snitch, then I'll kill you. Ooops I'm in jail, need to snitch so I can get out.
DeleteHe couldn't be man enough like mochomo and many members of his cartel that got sentenced to 30 years because they never dropped dime on anybody
DeleteIn the USA David R Chandler of Piedmont Alabama is doing life with no parole for being a pot "kingpin". Some of these cartel people killed dozens and have done less time that Chandler. He was the first under the new federal drug kingpin law around 1990. He sets in jail while real kingpins come and go. It's a major injustice, but nothing new for the USA legal system. His biggest crime was he didn't have $$$$ to give the government of the USA.
ReplyDeleteExactly. No cash
DeleteFreedom costs money so the real capos remain in power
The Holy Inquisition must be rolling with pride in Hell,
DeleteIts Torquemada disciples decide you got money, ususually because "somebody told them" y ya te chingastes...
But if the chinese give you loans for 250 million dollars and forgives 80% of it, equal to 200 million dlars, it is no problemo, same deal as getting 600 million dollars worth of loans from Russia and a few more hundred millions from the russian mafya mobsters in the USA or the billions laundered through Deutsche Bank Cyprus...
--that some expensive "pases" esee! While america sleeps again
I think he was sentenced harshly because he didn't talk. Like others have said they always have the sentence reduced if he provides information. They used the sentence as leverage. It's a wise move. And in the end they all deserve life or death. Cocaine and heroine trafficking leads to the death of many.
ReplyDeleteEl 7 nunca fue mitotero plebes. Este compa no anda con payasadas como el chapo. Saludos pa la gente de Mazatlan compas.
Delete-💯
All cartel leaders who got sentenced to 25 years cooperated and provided at least some info. And when they're deported after doing time, expect the PGR waiting for them at the border.At some point Mexico will make them pay for their crimes in Mexico against the Mexican citizens. PGR needs themselves some good PR.
ReplyDeleteThe PGR ARE SOME OF THE MOST CORRUPT MURDERING MEXICANS,
Deletejust try to have a couple of dollars in your pocket at all times if in mexico
How do you figure?
DeleteThe USA is giving Mexico tutorials on how to maximize forfeitures. If the US is receiving millions in drug proceeds why is the US prison system being privatized? ??
DeleteMean while weed the cause of a lot of deaths is legal now, why? Because there is a bunch of addicts to profit from. They should legalize all drugs and stop the killings and scapegoting of hipocrite society.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you. They should legalize in cities like Las Vegas Atlantic City etc where people like to do sinful shit to the fullest. Marijauna is only for the real sick people with AIDS Cancer and other severe health problems not for huevones to feel good because they cant hack it in life. Como discen los putos "Smoke some weed DAWG" con los pantalones para bajo "homie" bola de pendejos
Delete10:50 you are free to pull your pants up when your customers are done, others are happy smoking weed, live and let live.
DeleteIf the government made.law for all drugs to be free or real cheap, peepol would have to look for another job.
Come think of it, nobody moved more cocaine and grifa than the iran/contra co-cosnpirators, they kept Mena Airport in Arkansas busy for years, 24/7, it look like they was about to bomb and blow the whole chimichanga to hell.
Never heard of any Death linked direct to weed.
DeleteAlcohol kills more people than marijuana. Drunk driving. ODs, and withdrawals. Do your own research
DeleteLife sentence in many states does not actually mean life, it means the minimum amount of time served is 20 years until consideration of parole or probation. Alfredo has already served over 8 years. If he stays out of trouble, and commits acts of good, he could be out in 12 years.
ReplyDeletecome on read the article. "determinate" life sentence is what he got, meaning he will leave in a pine box...no parole, unless he wins an appeal. I don't think he has enough knowledge that would be worth a stab at a post sentence deal like felix.
Deleteit has nothing to do with good behavior, etc. this is federal prison life without parole.
He will die in ADX and he will not be released any earlier until the judgment has been carried out.
DeleteChivis,a life sentence in the BOP is credited after serving 32 yrs,but Beltran Leyva has automatic appeal action due to his case being an extradition.If you know any good federal lawyer,he will tell you.This sentence was unlawful.View Benitez vs Garcia.You'll see what I mean.
Deleteyou give me sch little credit...my info was from those "close". I am not an atty so I wanted to be sure. I was stunned that in this case it is life w/o or as i was told "he leaves in a pine box"appeal is only out. but there are many issues there. more later
DeleteLife in the feds means you die in there. Its not like being sentenced in the state. Much respect to him for not snitching. If your gonna play the game man up if the cards dont fall in your favor
DeleteA life sentence in the federal system is life. No parole . Your right Chivis. You would be surprised of the small amounts drugs it takes in new Orleans to achieve life. Read up on Dalton Bennett, Rodney Bolton, Lance bennent.all life and never seen 5k cash.
Delete10:04 wonder why a corrupt politician state like luisiana is so hard on convicting people of color? Because those on top, like the rich "can't steal" said US rep jason chaffetz.
DeleteAnd yet it is all they do.
Sorry you Bastard no $20.000. thousand dollar off road
Deleteatvs,no carney asedas .no ladys,no more parties lol
take a lot of soap with you you gonna need it..Jefe
4:47 PM,this was not a State Court that sentenced Beltran Leyva,it was a Federal Judge.Life in the BOP is roughly about 32 years,LWOP is a pine box.Your sentence is based on the DOJs sentencing guideline & it all depends on the quantity & quality of the drugs as well as the participation of those involved.Theres Minimum Mandatories & if anyone goes below that,then its a very high possibility they snitched.Do some research people,State laws differ from Federal.
DeleteLWOP ? They have no parole board or parole in the Federal System.Starting at level 32 in then sentencing guidelines cat 5 you can get life. @2:43pm The US government has since softened its stance against minorities.. now you see 50 grams of ice with a 10 year mandatory minimum. Grown men with no teeth , 1 conviction and looking at 20years plus.
Delete7:32 I'll give you credit chivis, "Call me" once at least.
Delete316. Federal laws differ from State laws, however both Federal and State laws continually have change of hearts. The reality of anyone going below the minimum mandatories is on a very high possibility they were innocent either from crime, court representation, etc. or snitched. Research completed
DeleteHow can you possibly have a problem with this sentence? It's not just narco trafficking, this guy is a psychopathic killer. You want this fuck to get out? C'mon, man!
ReplyDeleteWere you there when he was doing the supposed killings?
Delete8:57PM Tell that to the people who lost their loved ones. Stop being a douche.
DeleteI dont know i feel like the sentencing was harsh and unfair for the the gigantic amount of evidence /sarcasm
ReplyDeleteThis was a very biased case . The judge is a puppet and if they wanted to give someone life why not his older brother Hector beltran leyva? currently lovked up, why not extradite him? hmmm somethings fishy and not right about this case , its VERY obvious
He was probably sentenced to life for not cooperating. Just like when bonds are exaggerated for not snitching.
ReplyDeleteNO COMPLAINS,no crying,no snitching respect to whoever deserves respect and this man has earned his...
ReplyDeleteThats fucked up mochomo was never as violent as other narcos from what i heard Out here he was actually a cool dude...
ReplyDeleteI thought chapo's own men killed Edgar by mistake
ReplyDeleteDude got bent over. Should have pleaded guilty from the onset. I don't think he has any new info to give. His family has been withered and his enemies? Well im sure they adjust for the scenario that he might try to give info. So once again, no info worth reducing his sentence.
ReplyDeleteBasically another hollow political and law enforcement triumph against as the "Special Agent" said "a Goliath" in the drug trafficking world who was worth billions yet hes been locked up for how long?
ReplyDeleteAnd the people who spoke against him?In all probability did they even meet him?
Hearsay taken as hard credible evidence from people who have done much worse than him?
After all i don't recall a video where Beltran is executing someone on video ?
553. Mochomo will win the appeal in tax payers favor
DeleteBeltran has been fucked left right and center.
ReplyDeleteWe have the US making deals with near serial killers and rats just to get the "BIG NAME" he didn't co-operate and plead guilty and gets life with no parole ?
What exactly did he do to warrant this sentence .
DOES THIS VERDICT SURPRISE ANYONE HERE
Epn stole the business but all the dummies here want to blame chapo
DeletePuro Chapo y arriba Culiacan Sinaloa
ReplyDeleteGEnte Nueva x Antrax X Talibanes x Enpolvados x Acme x Chimales x Vagos
DEP M1 el temor de los Beltran Leyvas
6:27 DEP Chalito el terror de Manuel 💯
DeleteChalito had M1 scared!
DeleteChalito was a bitch he got punked out of culiacan by Archie's people
DeleteIve seen no proof where chapo snitched but did see where alfredo said it wasnt chapo that ratted on him all this chapo snitch bs but nobody has any evidence not about what u kno its what u can prove show me where chapo snitched on gov document or something
ReplyDeleteso you want chivis to spend time proving to you? who the fuck are you? el Mochomo has never given an interview. you are a liar you never saw him say it wasn't chapo. not even logical he was in prison.
Deleteso where did you see this?
Liar
6:40 as a matter a fact u fuck ive seen on here where iys been said by him that chapo wasnt the one who gave him up another thing dnt come at me talkimg bout chivis has nothing to prove to me right she doesnt i ask fot facts not knocking her at all i think she does a great job so stop fucking consigning provide a fact stop getting your pantys in a bunch
DeleteWhoa...calmate!
DeleteNo offense taken...discussion is good, reasonable discussion. keep it civil
ok..I have researched the events of BLO-SInaloa until I no longer could or wanted to, it is a side issue to me . One thing, the PGR agency Mx and us both contend chapo as blamed by arturo for mochomo arrest. no doubt chapo son released shortly after, and remember he was in prison for years and no hope of a quick release. as for the killing of edgar, i think it is more probable than not. but concede I can't bet my life on it. and it is mostly irrelevant to me. Most of Mexico's press report the same story as fact. the guy that could really shed light is dead.
as for mochomo saying anything...don't believe it. he has never spoken publicly, and is very private. I have no clue as to what he thinks went down leading to his arrest, it was what Arturo thought that fired up the conflict.
now, can we all just get along?
Vincentillo was given up months after the Edgar mistake,possible a Cazares tipped them off,however I still think it was political as Calderon was pressured by the states to come down on sinaloa.
DeleteWell said chivis i have no prob especially with someone behind a keyboard lol if im not mistaken i seen in a article posted on here where it was said alfredo said that chapo didnt give him up but u have a great point i jus gotta see it to believe it type man n i this blog is great im a fan
DeleteChivis u got these anoms ready to fight for you lol im pretty sure you can speak for yourself
Delete7:18 NO, we can't get along,
DeleteIf some perras marginales want to blame or acquit la chapa or el mochomo or el barbas, without proof, the least we can do is try and get more truth out.
Chivis.
DeleteWe had heard that chapo was asked to pull his protection from mochomo as mochomo was making to much noise,whatever that means. Maybe his annoyed the wrong people. This is what chapo does when asked by his government people. He did the same to fantasma. Maybe chapo gives permission to even arrest these guys,lol
Ballzdeep100, the standard for proof that you are asking for has already been met many times. There is plenty of evidence that Chapo clearly snitched but I'm not going to do homework for someone - yes, you - that lazily demands proof. Step up and do your own research. Furthermore, you claim with confidence, and without an iota of supporting evidence, that "knobody has any evidence". Really? According to who? Or, since you used no punctuation, maybe I've misunderstood you so can you please clarify?
DeleteBallzdeep100, why do you demand proof of something yet you offer no proof for your claim that "nobody has any evidence"? Your ignorance of the proof that Chapo is a snitch- there is plenty of evidence- doesn't make your claim true.
Delete@9:00 am Chapo pullin protection away from Mochomo ?? Did you know that Mochomo had two armed wings one in southern Mexico Los negros and the other in northern Mexico Los Gueros he was the one protecting Chapos family plus the Beltran leyba were considered the armed wing of the Sinaloa cartel due to Arturo having the strongest and biggest crews
Deletewhere the rumors of el azulito being killed yesterday true? haven't seen any articles anywhere confirming it yet.
ReplyDeleteThose rumors are true my friend borderland beat is a day late with breaking stories
DeleteDue to the life sentence handed to him by a Federal Court,Beltran Leyva has"automatic appeal rights".WHY?His case is that of an extradited felon who is not a U.S born Citizen.Stay tuned Ladies & Gents...Mochomos life sentence WILL be reduced.No tellint to what,but it wont be life,thats for sure.
ReplyDeleteTalk to your people CHIVIS get the ok and let us understand the BLO CDS history se we can understand better the way it all went down thank you!!
ReplyDeleteThey explain things in the Arturo series posted a few weeks back
DeleteMochomo f'd things up for people in Phoenix too.The guns seized from him have caused the raza out there all kinds of problems. Now there are ATF task forces and all kinds of heat when before '08 everything was great. No sympathy here...
ReplyDelete7:48. You are hilarious!
DeleteU:48 pos como cuantas "guns" were seized from el Mochomo?
DeleteSe me hace que te crees muy malefica, pero los unicos cuernos que the botas son los que te regala el sancho.
Too harsh if you ask me.
ReplyDeleteIt will be during the appeal process that he will reconsider flipping to save his own skin ala El Matamigos, El Min and El Trigrillo. I would not be surprised to see him on the witness stand during the Chapo trial. That will be his big payback to CDS cause the guy the Feds really want locked up for life is Guzman.
ReplyDeleteGiven all things, that he has not done anymore than any other capo, in the way of killings and or dealing, one has to wonder why he is being made an example of. Given how his older brother Arturo was, I would not be surprised if at some point, the BLO made threats against Federal Judges and or FBI members.
ReplyDeleteJudicially they have steam-rollered Mochomo, and I think they are doing the same to Chapo, given that they are denying him the chance to pick his own defence team and leaving him with public defenders, who as we all know are not the sharpest tools in the box.
Z-40 who I believe will be extradited in the next few months, is also a case worth watching, as how him and chapo are treated will confirm if this is a change in mindset of the judiciary in regards of sentencing of capos.
Dear Otis B Fly-Wheel, could not agree more with you. It appears the feds are finally changing things up. With him getting a life sentence from the feds,he will die in prison unless his appeal wins. Which is very unusual in drug cases. Between Chapo and Z40,I expect the same sentence.Thanks Chivas for the update.
DeleteThe "G" ain't cuttin no slack. Fair or no, this is Murkin justice, 2017. Be a Mr Big Shit drug capo at your own peril. The Trump Age is dawning!
Delete@Chivis can you pls write an article of the aftermath of the zetas and why Trevino don't snitch on moeria and how he running again for government. We all know you have eyes and ears in Coahuila
ReplyDeleteactually I began such an article. But it requires so much work i set it to the side. The downfall was the policy of the Trevino family to keep trevino's as capos. only trust family sort of thing. they did this with Kiko after 40 and 42 were arrested. They appointed kiko as leader even though the warning signs were abundant that doing so was a horrible idea. Kiko like violence, he likes killing. When 42 and 40 were in charge they kept close tabs on their nephew.. keeping him within boundaries, but as many Zs hated kiko as tolerated him. he was the cause of the split. had 40 not been arrested it would have been doubtful there would have been a split.
Deleteas for moreira, i always said he would run again. that was a part of the arraignment he made with PRI in exchange to stepping down as PRI chief to save the presidency of Pena and keep PRI in power. It was agreed he would lay low for a while , and PRI would see that Moreira would be cleared of wrongdoing so that he may reenter politics.
he was a smidgen away from being the next president of Mexico. I do not know why trevino would tell the government something they well know. it would gain him nothing. Mexico is not after truth. They have plenty of evidence of truth.
@Chivis
ReplyDeleteWho the heck made you judge, jury, and executioner!?
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DeleteAqui I en todos los casos el que Los mando a todos ala chingada fue ENRIQUE PEÑA NIETO se les voltio. Esa es la neta no culpen al chapo ni al mencho ni a los Beltranes a los zambada a nadie el puro de EPN fue el que los traicionó el ojete. Igual como así les quieren dar vida en la carcel porque también Asís agentes de US de DEA i la CIA porque no les dan a ellos también carcel pinches mamones botense ala verga. PAZ!
ReplyDeleteMochomo lived the fast life, so he knew that he was going to end up in prison or dead, theres only 2 ways and its over. Los mochomos did put in work in sinaloa though like never before.
ReplyDeleteLa Mochomera! !
DeleteHow do they say in sinaloa? "nobody is Innocent"
ReplyDeleteHe got what he deserved.doesnt matter if chivis and others dont like it. He whacked mexico with his People.they shoould send him on death row.
Ivan Reyes Arzate, head of the PF's sensitive investigations unit, was just arrested for links with the Beltranes, specifically to Arturo and Alfredo. He apparently sold a DEA informant to them for $3M in 2008 who was subsequently tortured and executed.
ReplyDeletehttp://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chicago-feds-top-mexican-cop-leaked-probe-info-to-drug-cartels/
First off...you are almost correct... it was Auturo not alfredo. BUT I am going thru the page document. I will make a post. trouble is I don't have much time.
DeleteThe agent is the one who was most responsible for the BLO indictment of 2008. there were a couple of superseding complaints as well.
Alfredo is not named in the indictment.
Arturo is, along with Puerca and one other guy. Maybe named manny, i am going off memory.
I will do my best to get the story up this weekend or sooner. I am still in medical treatment so I have to play by ear each day.
BTW your link doesn't even mention alfredo nor the 2008 indictment...so why did you name him? and of course he was in prison already a year by 2009....Paz
@Chivis my mistake I read through it once before posting the link and thought I saw Alfredo named as a partner w/ Arzate. Mea culpa and keep up the amazing work; this site continues to be the leader in providing thoughtful, in-depth analysis of a topic that the US media refuses to cover in a meaningful way.
DeleteGood to see you're still alive and kickin.
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ReplyDeleteI wonder if everyone here who's upset about this "harsh" sentence would be willing to allow Mochomo to live in their home and/or interact with their families!?
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I don't give a fuck how tuff u are or if ur Chapo or arellanos Felix...Prison will break a man! I've seen grown man cry like babies...Selling dope ain't worth it...All these dudes can't enjoy all their riches,trying to hide,escape,no sleep,hiding in the hills! Don't get me wrong,it feels good when u see bundles of cash, thinking of where to go,where to party or what to waste it on but fuck that,it ain't t worth it boys and girls!
DeleteYour right Chema and all these guys still think it's cool
Delete@9:09 I am friends with him I shared the same cell with him he is one of the most stand up and honest men I have ever met. I talk to him almost daily through phones. The admin on here can even tell you. Some of the things they say he did were not true. I know alfredo better than anyone else and he is like a father to me. Alfredo gives people food, phone calls, I have seen him have someone send flowers to their wife when she was having a baby and he pay for 100 roses 1 for every day he was locked up. So please be mindful because people change. He is not a snitch he refuses to give up anyone his exact Words to me, " I will die in a 8x10 before giving up anyone or anything"
Delete@ 3:34 A lot of people don't seem to realize that most drug dealers and cartel members don't do it solely for the money.
DeleteIt's either because they are simply gangsters (some of these guys couldn't change who they are even if they wanted to) and enjoy being a gangster more than any other job they could have or it's for the thrill.
They enjoy the rush and power that comes with the business. The money is usually just an added bonus.
If u know this guy,where in Morelos did this guy have a house at?
Deletelol 7:46 keep dreaming. You must be on some good heroin. The US wouldnt let someone like Mochomo share a cell with a random.
Delete@ 7:46, seriously, how low can your self esteem.
Delete9:09 "A real convict" that's in prison terms and is considered honorable status in the prison culture . I think you will find the majority of society would rather not have a "real convict" living next door . Real convicts don't have any say in determining a criminals fate in the due process system . I think society in general believes their judgement may be lawed when it comes to the morals of the rest of society . Of coarse everyone can be evaluated on a individual basis and we are not all the same .
DeleteBut look at that crazy motherfucker Pablo Escobar . He is still celebrated by they people who were around him. He helped a lot of people . Very generous to the poor that surrounded where he came from . Of coarse he murdered a lot from the neighborhood also . Bombed a passenger jet and killed any politician or political candidate that wanted to crack down on organized crime .
When we judge a person for child abuse and neglect we don't punish and judge him for the days he stayed home and cooked and cleaned and took care of them . Its the times he abandoned then for days on end with no for and basic necessities that he gets judges for . Or the bad beatings . All of you defenders should have showed up for court to dispute the claims of the government . If you could have been witnesses to discredit the the governments evidence he probably wouldn't have plead guilty . YOU KEYBORD LAWYERS LET HIM DOWN!
Well...I am sure that Mochomo and his ilk would have been better served if he/they made sure that everyone had food, clean water, and education. Nice that he sends flowers to a wife who is having a baby. Right....wtf is she supposed to do? Eat them? Feed them to the baby?
Delete@7:46 PM Well, it begs the question. Where diid you do time at? What was your case? Nationality?
DeleteChivis . Wouldn't these guys teamed up with the zetas at some point ? You really like this guy . Do you know him or something ? Ive seen young gangsters in TDC get a 50 for a drive by where people were not even killed . Really now diving by and spraying automatic weapons at somebody or bodys . Serious shit now ! Really anybody with normal thinking would believe this is real real bad . The majority would say 50 wouldn't be to much for this type behavior . The majority , that's who the courts have to please . Would you think that this behavior is extreme compare to things that mochomo has done or has had done under him through the years ? I'm going to say you can multiply this degree of criminalty by many many times .
ReplyDeleteHad he had his case heard before a jury of common hard working us citizens, from a cross section of society , what kind of sentence would he have gotten ?
I don't see any points of error where he could be granted a appeal . He plead guilty and was given sentence within the sentencing guidelines . Appeals usually are won where they were contesting all the way . His IQ could be tested and if he turns out to be retarded it may do some good . In any case these things take years . It may help Chapo that little pig eyed fucker aint smart .
Rest in Peace
ReplyDeleteR5 M1 El Bravo
They were all betrayed, cds dont care about them.
DeleteAll these drug dealers deserve the DEATH SENTENCE. Life sentence is way to kind. Ask yourself how many drug related deaths were linked to these animals on both borders? How many over dosed on their crap? How many children were abandon by their moms or dads? How many gangs on both sides of the border live off the weak? DRUG DEALERS ALL DESERVE THE DEATH SENTENCE.
ReplyDelete@ 5:28 So do drug users, under that same thinking. So how many of your family members will get the death sentence? No demand, no supply.
DeleteDeterminate = To Be Continued
ReplyDeleteIts a stretagy to make him snitch on chapos trial. He didnt wanna cooperate at first so now he really have to think about this because we all know el trumpas really wants a life sentence for chapo.
ReplyDeleteChivas, not to go off subject but since you mentioned Moreira can possibe reenter politics, who will be the next presidential nominnee for the PRI, Vidagaray?
ReplyDeleteStill no comfirmation on if el azul is really dead
ReplyDeleteThe chicken finally came home to roost for mochomo . This is the fruit of the garden he planted . Thank you Chivis for being so objective and continuing this story.
ReplyDeleteHe will be released in 10 years watch
ReplyDelete9:08AM
DeleteSorry, but he's never getting released.