Subject Matter: Cali Cartel, Narco's series on Netflix
Recommendation: Read this article by BB reporter Chivis see link
"The traffickers from Cali are seeing Narcos, and they are not happy about it. Narco's tells a bad version of the real events, that could lead to conflicts in real life".
Reporter: Infobae
"Netflix should be more responsible", assured the son of Pablo Escobar. "I don't know well what happened and the mistrust I read in the notices", he said in relation to the assassination of producer Carlos Munoz Portal, 37 years of age, who appeared dead in Mexico this past month while researching locations for the new series of Narco's. But later he added, " unfortunately Mexico is very violent place. If I was in Africa filming lions, it wouldn't surprise me if one of them killed me".
Juan Pablo Escobar, changed his name to Sebastian Marroquin after the death of his father in 1992, has questioned the manner in which Netflix are recounting the narco trafficking history in Colombia and Latin America. "The narco traffickers in Cali are seeing Narco's and are not liking it. It annoys them that their names and their cities are being utilized to tell accounts of events that are not true. Their accounts of the history are bad and could create conflicts in real life", he advertised in the Daily Mirror.
From his point of view, " nothing has changed" since the epoch when Pablo Escobar dominated the drug business, "except the names". "Now there is more narco trafficking and corruption", he affirmed. Marroquin not only questioned that Netflix had committed errors historically, but had also given out the wrong image of the capos of organized crime. " Every day I receive dozens of emails of youngsters from all over the world who say that they would like to be like Pablo Escobar because they have watched Narco's. It is dangerous that these television program's glorify the violence and paint narco traffickers as hero's", he said.
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"We are all sad at the death of Carlos Munoz Portal, a respected scouter of locations, and we offer our condolences to his family. The events even though they are unknown, the authorities are continuing to investigate what happened", affirmed Netflix in a communication".
The body of Munoz Portal was found in his car, it was on an unnamed road in the community of San Bartolo Actopan, in the town of Temascalapa. He had multiple bullet wounds. The vehicle had been impacted against a cactus, it is thought that he had been killed after a car chase.
That's the undisputed truth. Theres a lot of youngsters on the sidelines, especially raza in the USA watching intently wanting to get in on the action & entertainment like this just rationalizes bad decision making.
ReplyDeleteIf someone showed the not so glorious ugly version, people would complain that it encourages 'racist' stereotypes. You can't win for losing. Pandora's box was opened already in 1972; The Godfather celebrated the mafia. So did Scarface, Goodfellas, and the Sopranos. Before 1972 if they made a movie about organized crime they presented it with a very strong crime doesn't pay message. That is what changed. Starting in the 1960's people rebelled against everything the way it used to be. Today everything and anything is 'discrimination'. They need to make the mafias and cartels unsexy again in the movies and tv programs. Sure some people will be 'offended', but to hell with their feelings.
DeleteOr the not so glorious agenda the us government carries. We are always fed the stereotype of the white man that save the day but never the fact that the us and their agencies started all this wether it be South America, central, Asia or the Middle East. The fact that they carry their mysterious agenda which ends up destroying the environment that they encounter just for their greed. They should stop portraying them as the hero but more like what they really are. The last time a us agent went rogue for coming upon evidence that the cia was behind a certain drug trafficking ring he was wacked.
DeleteThere's allot to be said there...even the modern music glorifies such lifestyles. Defy authority, racism,sexism....sad part is because of the mass media of today you're instantly famous if you do.good or bad...what's the saying? Any pub is good pub. Sad.
Delete1:38; 2/3 of the comments on BB are from people that seem to believe every television/hollywood narrative on the drug war but in reality don't have a clue of how it really works!
Delete@12:43 - That's such a tired narrative. "The devil made me deal drugs!" I mean after all, it couldn't simply be about feeling powerful and having lots of money. No, instead let's form endless conspiracy theories that blame the US, CIA, capitalism, and anyone with white skin, that way people will argue about petty partisan politics forever and nothing tangible will ever get done to change it. That sounds about par for the course. I suppose the Patron system, la mordida, and nepotism is a gringo conspiracy too. No mames.
Delete6:59 It is true those movies from 1972 may have celebrated the Mafia but the Italians including the Italian American community in the U.S. never agreed with, wanted or liked that portrayal of them, but Hollywood ignored their outcry and steamrolled right over them in the pursuit of the all mighty dollar while forever and unjustly stereotyping an entire ethnic group.
DeleteIn 2003 when NBC came out with its televised series Kingpin about a Mexican drug cartel leader and his family, the outcry from the Hispanic community was immediately heard and adhered to and the show was immediately canceled after only six episodes during the first season.
Now, in the year 2017 they want to take away Columbus Day which is tantamount to a form of Italian Heritage Day for many Italian Americans in the U.S. and no one says a word about it or against it.
And they give Columbus a bum rap because the kids who know nothing about the history and are too lazy to "discover" it while regurgitating all of the rewritten false history they were fed by someone else go around justifying an idiotic agenda (pc) based on a false narrative (lies).
Bienvenido a los Estados Unidos
Benvenuto negli Stati Uniti
The cia being behind cocaine rings is no longer a conspiracy. Anyone here that’s read into drug trafficking will eventually stumble upon that. Look into it and come back and tell us you didn’t do so as well. Now no one is saying it’s just them but the drug traffickers as well, they are responsible for their own actions and should definitely pay the price but what about the rest on the other side along with the politicians involved? Shouldn’t they be held accountable either? Otherwise this business will keep going and that drug trafficker will simply be replaced by another greedy man.
DeleteThis business is a team effort without each other there would be no business.
Delete1:23 ...and what really works dear mister nostradamus?
DeleteAt least the 1/3 you know about, please we are waiting,
And we aboit a start a building orselfes a green gold statue of ouer General "El Mayo Zembrada" if you don't straighten us up soon like Moiseis y sus Mandamientos,
We only have one mandamiento, te vamos a mandar a la chingada
The core of the problem is that crime pays if you are at the top! Mind, the cartels are NOT the top! The guys at the real top all sit behind desks and do the 'ensuring', 'guaranteeing', 'enabling', 'providing', stays clear of any actual shipment, never touches a gun and has plenty of money to make problems go away.
ReplyDeleteThe poor underemployed and ignorant youths dont know this and that they are only there to be cannon fodder. They dreamhaving a stab at the big life and if they fail can always go back home to mummy.
Unfortunately the top guys need those poor fools which unwittingly are willing to be slaughtered like sheep. With widespread poverty, the lack of education and prospects the pool of fools if guaranteed to not dry up anythime soon.
Beautifully put!
DeleteI can't find any rebuttal nor words to exemplify the reality of what you stated.
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3:57 nice to meet mister, yer welcome, I see the bullshit is getting kicked real nice, it was about time.
Delete--thanks for coming.
Say what you may, pablo to escobar junior no anda de pinchi mañoso ni de caliente haciendole al pinchi junior con sus gay laboutinis or ferraris and he can go anywhere in the world.
DeleteLet's see EPN's son travel the world alone? Not without his gorillas around.
1:38 the real story of drug trafficking will EVER be told at a national level on national TV or movies, all the novelas and shows are cheap crap for alucines, I am watching american made with Tom Cruise this weekend, UT I doubt "thingz", it is like "The Aviator" it does not tell any of the drama that ended with Howard Hugues properties and government contracts on the hands of "other people", what is funny is the introduction of turkish, colombian and brasileña telenovelas, k like televisa exports its technology,
ReplyDelete--combined with drug trafficking vans
American Made is just Cocaine Cowboys. And all those other movies made before nothing new. Just another Hollywood remake
Delete8:11 yessiree, but it is better than nothing, I don't have time to see many movies anymore, I have yet to see "Kill The Messenger", imagine, I never even knew what it was all about.
Delete8:11 call it cut or lavada?
DeleteMaking a season about the Juarez Cartel will be worse
ReplyDeleteThe way i understood after the end of third season was that it was going to be focused on the Laredo corridor. Or might be a mix of different stories.
Delete1:31 end of 3rd season?
DeleteMan, where the hell i've been, thank God I never knew.
He just mad he not getting his cut
ReplyDeleteMuy hablador, pero le faltan los tamanos de su apa.
ReplyDeleteSu papa fue un cobarde que mando a matar gente inocente.
Delete6:53 and the Godfathers a d Godmothers...
Delete--la Gata, sick in prison and El Perro, murdered de cartagena en Colombia, made millions of dollars from "gambling" on poor broke assed colombia, if you'll buy it, now Alvaro Uribe Velez says they financed his political career with millions and millions of dollars, and if any of youses believe that I have abridge to the moon to sell you...
--cocaine trafficking to the US after don Pablo Escobar Gaviria grew exponentially, but it was only a miracle from the lord.
Para que de seguirle? Si pablo escobar hizo bastante daño como para que el siguiera con lo mismo ahi en el matadero sin tener necesidad, eso es de pendejos mirando el ejemplo de como terminan.
Delete4:41 envy is a bad counselor, when someone goes after your shit you gotta do what you gotta do, but if you wait just a little, trap and make a few guys talk, then you find out, it was always your most trusted puppet sticking it up your ass.
DeleteThe Cartel de Medellin leader that started smuggling "tombstones" and was a partner of the Ochoas lost it all to his employee alvaro uribe velez, family of the Ochoas that allied with the bla bla bla...
globalresearch.ca/
The Colombian "War On Drugs", A Family Affair
By Tom Burghardt
If you could please publish the whole report, because everything that is happening in mexico has been happening in Colombia, by the book, only more refined sadistic. And cold blooded.
I don’t watch Narcos or none of those whack shows. I just laugh at chicanos listening to corridos and them thinking they are part of the cartel cause of it.
ReplyDeleteI agree pure bullshit if you ask me they should make it to where they show how involved the government really is instead of just showing one side. These shows and music just dumbs down those who watch and influences them to be corrupt.
DeleteYep, then they kill themselves like Poncho antrax when they feel the real heat of the narco war. Street thugs are just show people like bikers
Deletewhat do you listen too?
DeleteYou don't know that because Chicano don't listen to that stupid music which has messed up Mexican music and besides you guys are the ones driving in your trucks showing off what you don't have and also tell them in their face if you can
ReplyDeleteHow can anybody think they are part of a cartel by listening to corridos stop being dumb and ignorant and get areal job and support your family ignorance is the real problem with our raza on both sides of the border no wonder the pri and republicans are in control because the majority of us don't vote.
ReplyDeleteHe has a point
ReplyDeleteThere's a lot of ignorance in people specially youth that are followers and not lead they are weak minded and get carried out by how someone tells a story of a myth or legend people that never had a mentor or a role model in there life, industries know there is a lot of money producing these types of illicit events tv series, movies and corridos they don't care of promoting violence all they care about is the money and I don't blame them somebody has to do it but it's up to us as parents or the ones that are parents to teach our kids values and principles being poor it's not an excuse it's just the fastest way out just like they think about it and do their best to be in the cartel or be someone within that organization they could flip that into something positive and be legitimate to me is the same struggle and stress to be a doctor or a capo you need to work hard for it why not just be a doctor and avoid all the problems and consequences, I know some of you are going to say that school is expensive and nobody can afford it but you're wrong there are plenty of programs you don't pay it was not easy yet nothing is and I'm proud of having my Masters and I didn't pay a dime and I did it on my own. so people just need to stop being lazy
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MMGA
DeleteMake Mexico Great Again
8:02 yeah, Gringo Go Home
DeleteAnd leave my money, silverware, and loot behind.
Who is this dumbass talking like he knew everything. He was just a kid living the life of luxury. Why did he change his name? HOW many millions of dollars hidden in the jungle is he using? The Original Scarface as made in 1932 ,Hollywood has been making mafia films for a long time. MOST of the kingpins were ignorant hillbillies that want their offspring to be educated and legit. The one's that join are greedy and envious. It's 2017 ,these days even hillbillies in the secluded mountains have internet access. There is no more excuses to be illiterate, uneducated morons. It's sad,but that's the world of today. Instant Gratification and envy will not make you happier.
ReplyDeleteI find it funny how people are talking about raza/chicanos watching these TV shows/movies/music. When the government is the one to blame who keeps minority's & other's in poverty/poor educational system/affordable housing/living wage. Sometimes we make poor choices/mistakes when growing up poor,yes not all poor people make these choices. Just like rich people who rob/cheat/kill/rape/ETC! but because they come from a privileged white system they get multiple chances.
ReplyDeleteOf course we have one of these guys. Thinking the white man is trying to oppress them. Don’t you have a protest to riot at or something
Deletetodays narcos are the yesterdays jesters
ReplyDeleteif you know what i mean
I was not aware that drug capos had moral issues and concerns!
ReplyDeleteApologies for the unwanted attention!
Next time we will make sure it's drug cartel capo approved!
The era of distinguished capos has finally arrived!
Geez........
2:35 distinguished capos have always existed,
Deletebut the cat escaped from the bag just recently, about since the drug trafficking from the Golden Triangle in SE Asia moved from Heroin to the golden triangle of Sinaloa, Chihuahua and Durango mowing colombian cocaine, grifa and speed on Vietnam's Air America's trusted planes for the mexican narco-government and the american CIA, and of course, some for the mexican cartels business on the side...
Escobar Soul dont liked that netflix series
ReplyDeletePablo's sin changed his name cause he was scared. Who cares about his opinion? He never proved himself. Wrote a book for the money. Now seeking his 5 minutes of fame for the money. Pablo had many sons, illegitimate as they may be they have bigger balls than this silver spoon fed brat.
ReplyDeleteThough American Made was satirical; there was a lot of truth camouflaged in the movie.DEA/CIA have historically helped select drug cartels; Noriega kept incommunicado because of this knowledge,.Certain top gov't officials on both sides encourgard the proliferation of the drug trade to line their own pockets with graft.
ReplyDeleteWho exactly ordered the outcast and incapacitation of Escobar? The CIA?
ReplyDelete7:43 the new Godfather of crime in Colombia, obviously,
DeleteParaco narcoguerrillero, Autodefensas Unidas de colombia, alvaro uribe velez..............Alvaro.......Uribe..de colombia
El Ubérrimo de Urabá, who never knew about the murders and clandestine burial sites around his hacienda "el Ubérrimo" or at la Macarena military base...
I think what's jes trying to say is that you have these old school guys and also the crazy new ones watching the series and what they do or go about things ( whether it's relationships with friends or business partners or lovers etc ) not being told the right way. And you have people like the ones working on these series going into areas to film, and maybe they were killed because they found out these individuals who are telling the wrong stories are around scouting for locations and/or info. And since they aren't telling the story right, these people are being killed. I don't know that it's more about Capos having moral issues, than someone just not liking the way something is portraided. I mean I would not like it if my life wasnt depicted in a movie or show the way it really played out. Especially when so many people are watching. Business relationships could be hurt. People could lose their lives based on informantion that people thought was one way but the show depicts it some other way. This could happen in any scenario where some biographical manner is at work. I mean anyone would get upset. I think Pablo's son statement needs to be looked at in other ways. Not the way that many people are seeing it on here.
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NYC
Ciudadano Comandante Fuerte, pero de Olor.
DeleteBáñese pinchi hediondo apestoso.
Pensé que era un lion corretiao.
Lol
DeleteAlso I think he just doesn't want kids thinking that these Capos life is all about glamour. Yes you make A LOT OF MONEY. but these guys spend alot of time hiding. Running. Always looking over their shoulders. Alot of betrayal. It's not as easy as it's shown on TV. but kids can get the wrong idea and then just want to aspire to want to be a trafficker. Whoever said that drugs are easy money. Doesn't have a clue as to what really goes on. To me, mexicans have topped anything any other cartels or organizations have done in the past or present. The level of violence is insane. I'm not saying other races aren't violent as well or haven't done crazy shit. But man it seems to come almost natural to Mexicans to do the things the cartels members or anyone looking to be a part of them can do. And yes I know that drugs like crystal don't help because they make you ultra violent. But still.......
ReplyDeleteComandanteFuerte
NYC
His son's a little bitch
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ReplyDeleteQue trabajen los pobres!
ReplyDeleteMiren cabrones yo trabajé 6 años de traficante trabaje con gente de Carrillo y con gente de el chapo soy chihuahuense y les digo el negocio ya no sirve los jefes la cagaron para todos es la verdad yo no soy un asesino mejor me salí ....
ReplyDelete8:18 are you Lucha Villa, La Grandota de Chihuahua?
DeleteHow 'bout here's a message: you and your family are a has been as in already in the past tense. Go enjoy your I'll gotten gains and go crawl back in the cesspool y'all came from.
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