Subject Matter: Extra-judicial killing
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Two Coahuila police officers were accused of killing a US citizen and a legal resident of the United States at a check point on the Saltillo-Zacatecas highway, state attorneys revealed.
Apparently, the agents tried to cover up the killings by saying that the Americans shot first, the version of events was already denied.
Two members of the Metropolitan Operational Reaction Group (GROM), an elite unit, on October the 28th were in front of a roadblock near Saltillo, when the victims, both Americans, apparently did not stop at the checkpoint.
That same day, the Police issued a statement in which it was stated that the agents " answered the attack, culminating in the death of two probable perpetrators who were travelling aboard the vehicle."
The agents accounts indicated that the men were travelling at excessive speed and tried to avoid the security filter. " Meters later, they fired repeatedly against the GROM officers, who initiated a chase", according to the statement.
However, an official of the State Attorney Generals Office, whose name was not mentioned in accordance with current rules, commented that contradictions in their versions of events caused the investigators to carry out tests in search of traces of gunpowder on the hands of the victims, and no residue was found. In addition, he noted that the two men were simply driving south through Coahuila.
The two uniformed officers are in jail and face charges of intentional homicide. The officials identified the legal resident of the United States as Edgar Valdes Rodriguez, of Kansas City, Missouri. Meanwhile the US State Department identified the US citizen as Demetrius Atkins.
The case is similar to the August 2010 homicide of Joseph Proctor, 32, from New York, by members of the Army, on a road block near his home in the north of Acapulco, Guerrero. On that occasion, the military indicated that the construction employee attempted to assault the soldiers with an AR15 rifle; however the victims relatives rebutted that version and pressed for an investigation to be opened.
Weeks later, the National Defence Ministry reported to the victims mother, Donna Proctor, that three soldiers had been prosecuted for the death of her son.
It's a war zone. Bad things happen in a war zone.
ReplyDeleteRead the sign fools: KEEP OUT PELIGROSO
I am from Mexico. Have not been there in 20 years and don't plan on going there. Your chances of being a victim are very high
ReplyDeleteI am from Mexico and do go back
DeleteOnly been robbed once. Was lucky they did not kill the family. Now only dive in the day.
Why bother,not sacred,not a motherland,its just a piece of earth
DeleteSame here, sad but true.good thing is most my relatives are already here.
DeleteI live here in Chihuahua and I have a lot of innocent friends and acquaintances that have been killed. More than 8 in the last 5 years. Absolutely zero connection to crime. In fact contrarily the extreme opposite. I only associate with good and caring people.
DeleteJust a few days ago 2 young men stopped to other men from assaulting a woman in Guanajuato. The two men, fist to fist drove the two men away. They did not know the two men they saved her from were sicarios. The men returned with automatic weapons and chased the two young men, killed one and the other was able to hide. Two days later at the funeral for the young man, they returned and shot the other young man and 4 family members and wounded 4. Just doing the right thing can get you killed her.
My friends son went to a bar in Chihuahua and his friend danced with a kill. The waiters told the one boy to not dance with the girl. As they left he shot my friends son in the head and the one that danced with her got away. My friend his 18 year old son are and were two of the most incredible people you could ever meet. The father moved to the USA with his other son. this type of killing goes on, and on, and on.
I'm fro michoacan and like go8ng when i get a chance, michoacan is crazy but not all Michoacan. Will be there n3xt year for my grandpa's 100 year b day
DeleteI'm not from Mexico and go often but only been robbed once for being in a place I shouldn't be and doing things I shouldn't be doing raza keep visiting
DeleteI don't live in Mexico but I drive only the toll roads to Monterrey, Saltillo, Torreon, and Durango on a monthly sales route for my employer SAP once a month, and have for 7 years. I go through Nuevo Laredo around 5am (only scary part of trip b/c of people watching me until I reach toll road),then I arrive Monterrey around 9-10am and do business until very late, then drive to Saltillo and stay night. Then do biz in Saltillo until 8 or 9pm and do the long drive at night to Torreon. Do two days usually in Torreon then drive late at night to Durango on another LONG late night drive. Once I'm done with business in Durango I leave late at night and try to make it to Saltillo or Monterrey, stay the night at hotel, and finish drive next morning to home in San Antonio.
DeleteI have experienced road blocks in Coahuila and Nuevo Leon that I knew were not legitimate military but I had no problems - just answered questions. Two or three times I have had SUV searched (I think legit army) coming back near Nuevo Laredo, but I have never been robbed or seen any violence.
All of Mexico is not a war zone but if your in the business, or in the wrong place at the wrong time (like that church near San Antonio Sunday 11/7/17 - RIP) you can get killed anywhere. I love Mexico and feel safe in all the places I stay and do business.
I go every weekend and matamoros tamps is at peace right now, but el empalme to rio bravo valle hermoso progreso, is very hot not to mention reynosa,... i dont dare travel to reynosa,... iv seen a lot of things in the past several years but never get involved, i dont stare at strangers, mind my own buisness, dont go to bars, and hang out with locals, i have been going there since a child so i know the area, but it does explode all of a suden, and yes i am afraid sometimes but i continue to go, i refuse to live in fear, i will not let them take my freedom through fear, i have been to san luis potosi recently numerous times and every thing went well, no problems... went to matehuala, jilitla, real de catorce , cerritos, san luis potosi, and everything was peacefull..... call me lucky or stupid but i will continue to go,... ill be in villa hidalgo san luis potosi right after christmas wish me luck..... doing a mountain bike race in febuary in queretaro.... see you guys there....
DeleteIn the USA of been robbed, car jacked, shot at, and jumped. I've never been a gang member or involved in crime.
Delete6:31 for some, your piece of land is all bounty, defending it requires associations that become countries, that want other countries slice of pie, even if it is just a dirt cake.
DeleteSo they tell you not to stop at a roadblock because they'll kill you and if you don't stop at a roadblock, they still kill you!
ReplyDeleteThis should prove that the state of cuaguila hires murderers for their poolice corporations, if they have military or federal background they are automatic pass.
DeleteDo not blame the murdering corrupt officers, blame their employer, narco politicians in government at the highest levels.
It's hard to tell sometimes. There are narcos putting up roadblocks and dressed as soldiers.
ReplyDelete8:00 police officers have been arrested.
DeleteGROM means GRUPO REGIONAL DE OPERATION METROPOLITANA,
I don't know if they are private security, federales or estatales, but by the looks of it, they got cogidos con las nalgas llenas de masa and no room to wiggle.
--Stop playing the fool all the time to save the pinchi mexican government, or in this case just new version of polizeta sicarios of the state of Coabuila.
Should have stopped, it's a CHECK POINT. But killing them was way too much though
ReplyDelete8:18 Ain't no difference, sicarios, narcos, polesias polizetas, federales, state, negros, verdes o aguacates, they are all the same, government's death squads and kidnapping extortionista mexican government sicarios.
DeleteA lady cannot walk outside alone, or will get raped, murdered. And if you want to be a hero and rescue the lady. You better have a gun, and shoot these bad#*@rds, not to wound, to kill, and then run away, as an article says, they tried to reason with fist fight, but bad guys won.
ReplyDeleteThe writer at 6:59 illustrates one big reason Mexico is totally fuked and past fixing.
ReplyDeleteMy point: When ordinary "good" citizens do "innocent" or "good" things and then get killed by sicarios or bad people who get away with it, THEN, you have you have created a Nation where EVIL RULES.
Once people understand that even doing the right thing can get you and your loved ones killed... they are paralyzed with fear and will never confront evil.
Because of this, Mexicans are too scared to notice crime, evil doers or afraid to take back thier Nation. Mexico is FUKED!
Since it was an area were elite unit forces, not regular police is patrolling, What the hell are two Americans driving around in that area, a war zone area, the only place I would be in mexico, if I was an American, would be in the tourist part, in the Embassy, or in the DEA or CIA headquarters.
ReplyDeleteI find it strange this never made the News in america.
12:37-Staying in a locked compound like what is needed in Jamaica or Dominica is NOT the only way to travel!The best travel experiences are found among the locals.If a person wants to stey in a locked compound among their fellow countrymen and not experience any culture they can just save their bucks and stay home.A 'Chilanga' once told me years ago as I was about to drive through Guerrero that had tons of checkpoints to stop because if I didn't they can shoot to kill.They also say to stop on travel advisories.If the bad guys are manning a checkstop they will definitely shoot to kill if you don't stop thinking you are a rival or have lots on you to stea.I have always stopped and never had a problem.They are looking for drugs and weapons and will search for them.
DeleteI would love to go hunt sicarios kidnappers and extortionists for sport in Mexico.
ReplyDelete4:56 these murders were the work of elite mexican government forces, why don't you grow a pair and go hunting them?
DeleteI mean, make it worth your while, if you are really all that... chickenass.
@4:56 No, no, no will only hunt criminals not government forces. You sound like a criminal by saying go after government forces.
Delete6:53 government forces are criminals, these guys were killed by mexican government forces, read report again.
DeleteAfter reading all these reply's , I have to ask myself . Is there a genetic problem in Mexico ?
ReplyDeleteAdd your comment to the list and ask yourself why there is so much criminal activity in the world and see if you can come up with a solution for your question.
Delete5:03 there are more chances that you have mental problems than "the mexicans" having genetic disorders.
ReplyDeleteI can see that on your little comment.
They were CIA operatives. My sources in the CIA have advised me.
ReplyDeleteYou can bet had this happened in the US, the weak & corrupt Mexican government would be outraged.
Guns should be legal for all Mexicans. The would at least be able to fight back.
ReplyDeleteY que ver gas hacian en mexico?
ReplyDelete6:50 Andaban como perros,
DeleteGoliendose el fundillo,
es que estaban criados en el norte,
y pos allá son o se hacen rete mañosos.
Dicen que los mexicanos NO
pero pos porque no,
ya estando alli, pos a lo que te truje chencha.
The CIA was running a joint operation with the DEA. This roadblock was not supposed to be in operation. Someone at JOC had contacted the Mexican government and advised them not to setup a barrier on this road, at this time, because 2 operators would be traveling through possibly carrying sensitive intel. But, as usually, someone within the Mexican government diverted this operation and made sure that these agents were stopped before the intel could reach its destination. This is a clear cut case of why the US should not work hand-in-hand with the Mexican government. They cannot be trusted.
ReplyDelete7:27 then there is no way around it, the CIA wuz trying to fack up the DEA but the DEA was quicker on the draw and got the jump on them, today's DEA are not yesterday's pendejos, Kiki Camarena must be laughing his ass off in heaven, bless him.
DeleteThe CIA was running a joint operation with the DEA. This roadblock was not supposed to be in operation. Someone at JOC had contacted the Mexican government and advised them not to setup a barrier on this road, at this time, because 2 operators would be traveling through possibly carrying sensitive intel. But, as usually, someone within the Mexican government diverted this operation and made sure that these agents were stopped before the intel could reach its destination. This is a clear cut case of why the US should not work hand-in-hand with the Mexican government. They cannot be trusted.
ReplyDeleteIf that's the case traveling by helicopter would be way safer. They should have had the Marina escorting them. Since they are in jail the US government had to put extreme pressure on the Mexicans
DeleteMexican immigration or (policia federal) has an X-ray truck on the toll road (cuota/de paga) either on the saltillo-torreon (40D)or saltillo-Monterrey routes.
ReplyDeleteI found it weird that this xray truck was only on my way back to the US.
There is more military presence on toll roads in mexico than on normal freeway [la libre]
the roads you guys might want to avoid is cuidad mier/cuidad miguel aleman-Monterrey and reynosa - Monterrey
just my 2 cents
-Desde Tierra Caliente-
ReplyDeleteEs peligroso pasar por un puesto de control o reten sin alto total. Para haber visto esto yo mismo me dio miedo. En un Passat, dos mujeres pasaron y los marineros levantaron sus rifles. Fueron seguidos y no sé qué pasó con esta gente. Los marinas estaban muy enojados.