Subject Matter: Vincete Zambada Niebla, El Vincentillo
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Reporter: Carlos Alvarez
Vincente Zambada Niebla, alias El Vincentillo, son of the alleged leader of the Sinaloa cartel, Ismael Zambada Garcia, El Mayo, and collaborator with the United States government in the case against Joaquin Archivaldo Guzman Loera, will be sentenced in December of this year in Chicago, Illinois.
El Vincentillo, 43 years of age and born in Culiacan, was detained on the 18th of March of 2009 in Mexico city after arranging a meeting with DEA agents in the Sheraton hotel in Paseo de la Reforma, located a block from the United States embassy in Mexico.
Zambada Niebla was extradited to the United States in February of 2010, and transferred to a maximum security prison in Michigan, accused of being a high ranking member of the Sinaloa cartel, and of conspiracy to posses and traffic drugs from central and south America, as well as buying weapons to attack public officials.
He was declared guilty on the 3rd of April of 2013, of being the coordinator for logistics of the Sinaloa cartel, and accepted being responsible for the distribution of tons of cocaine between 1005 and 2008, originating in central and south American, that later was transferred to the United States by ship, planes, submarines, trains, vans and cars.
Zambada Niebla admitted also, that he knew of the activities of his father and El Chapo, as well as knowing that the Sinaloa cartel used violence to facilitate its activities and that he was one of the trusted lieutenants of his father, El Mayo Zambada.
Since then the son of El Mayo collaborated with the Federal Prosecutor of the North District of Illinois, in the preparation of the case against El Chapo, who was extradited to the United States on the 19th of January of 2017 to be judged in New York.
For his collaboration, it is expected that the Federal Judge Ruben Castillo, in charge of the trial of the son of El Mayo, will set aside a life sentence, that would correspond to his crimes, and impose a lower penalty of 10 years, as well as fine of 4 million dollars.
The magistrate who is in charge of the prosecution of 19 members of the Sinaloa cartel for conspiracy to traffic drugs, accepted an agreement between the lawyers of Zambada Niebla and the prosecutors, to issue a sentence on December 17th.
Another eight people who have been investigated for the same cause in Chicago, have already been sentenced, including twins Pedro and Margarito Flores, also turned into informants of the US government, who received penalties of 14 years each for their participation in the drug trafficking of the Sinaloa cartel.
Everything is recorded int he file 09-CR-00383, opened on April 23rd of 2009 against El Vincentillo, his father Ismael Zambada Garcia, Joaquin Guzman Loera and Alfredo Guzman Salazar, among other Sinaloan capos.
How manny years is he getting?
ReplyDeleteThey can’t give him life so most likely around 30
Delete11:53 10 years, down from 25 AND 4 million dollar fine, down from 2 billion dollars...
DeleteHEY, when you partner with THE BIIIG BOYS, they will come and pinch hit for youses and cover all the bases, good job chente!!!
Now, less see what La Chapa gets for his silent suffering, he was in charge of the Sinaloa/ Sonora/ Arizona corridor through the thick and tin seasons maintaining the outfit in busiNess against all comers and without so much piggy murdering.
It is a wonder how Arizona would be so intolerant of the unaligned and so corrupt when it came to their Goodfellas, specially after the fall of Florida as center of the universe.
Well the article states the judge will give him 10 years, he was arrested in 2009, its now 2018 so he has been in prison 9 years already. So with time served, he will be out in december of 2019
Deleteon any federal sentence in the US you do 85%. 8.5 years, he should be up for immediate release once sentenced.
DeleteThey will pull out the, time served, deal so he should be out in no time.
Delete5:45 knows
DeleteIt's 80-90% depending in what you did I believe and how your behavior has been will incarcerated for rehaibilrehabi purposes... So if you go to prison as a Fiver don't play hard ball and end up a lifer
Was his surrender & assistance to the US gov’t seen as tactical?protecting his father at the top by removing his partner & greatest competition, while protecting himself for 10 yrs of a war while networking with whomever was in area of confinement.
DeleteB.O.P got him in custody in 2010. That is when time served begins. Jail time in Mexico will not be credited to him.
Delete@ Otis
DeleteDo you really think it’s a fair sentence given to a major player? How many others who are given an excess of 20+ years for peanuts compared to this individual.
Definitely a broken judicial system which the US currently applies. I have to admit what many here state money talks! Perfect example of the hypocrisy the US displays.
Mexico is not much different in comparison to impunity. Another WELL OILED Machine!
The issue raises questions as to why we engage in a drug war when we impose slap on the wrist sentences for those who are the root of an epidemic?
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Read the damn article again and you will see what he got Tonto
DeleteThis piece of garbage won’t enjoy our prison system!
ReplyDeleteVicenti hasn't he's about to get out
DeleteHe’ll be out next year then he’ll go home and enjoy all his fortune . He doesn’t need to enjoy the system if he already beat it
DeleteWhy did it take 5 years for the court to give him a sentence?
ReplyDeleteBecause they needed to get as much out of him by that I mean the more he ratted out El Chapo and the cartel the less years he would serve so he finally finished ratting El Chapo out to the point he can finally get a solid sentence
Delete12:19 witnesses refused to cooperate, they do not comment in any case, pro or con, they "no komment on Kompromat" or on pending investigations or subject their selves to self-incrimination...
Delete"They are no pendejos", they are letter soup...
Because according to the constitution of the US you have the right to a speedy trial.
DeleteOhhh and the DEA/CIA/FBI (aka the Cartel of the US Government) and the US criminal 'justice' system decides what is a 'speedy trial'.
You know too much.....
DeleteThese guys with their badd ass corridos making them sound like a super hero but at the end snitch on their friends and cry when they get locked up. What a shame haha
ReplyDelete12:27 pleading guilty to known charges cut short as part of a plea deal is no snitching, it is deal making, be sure the moneys is in the bank, prolly offshores,
Delete--because they is nothing free in this here world of us...
But the Flores twins were allowed to keep their 2 billion dollar empire of businesses and real estate for their cooperation and pleading for 15 years prison, to be cut to 10 years maybe...
1:46 just like this rat here, he will get 10 years. Snitches so get good deals when it comes to ratting out your associates. If you read clearly it said is was a witness in chapo case. I remember reading a story here about him complaining to the court system how he was an informant working for the government and he should not get punished. He was actually going to trial lol
DeleteAsi somos en Sinaloa compa, mid gusta poner el dedo y que?! Puro guasave Ajua!
Delete@1:46... that is true about the twins ... can someone ask them if it was worth it ?? The 2 BILLION in assets in exchange for snitching and thus having their father decapitated in Mexico.
DeleteHe never had anything close to 2 billion nether chapo or mayo have anything close to a billion. No one will ever come close to Senor Pablo
Delete4:00 the Iran/Contra defense worked for Chente, but he used plausible complicity instead of plausible deniability, the partner in crime refused to testify, because the LAW allows for it without prejudice, but to make that stick it must come with pleading guilty to reduced charges, no extra ratting or informing needed, señor Flores went to Sinaloa on his own, his kids let it happen, he did not know what was cooking...
DeleteThe good news for him, I suppose, is that he has already been locked up for 9 years. Probably almost done with his sentence.
ReplyDeleteArriba Michoacan, abajo con chapo ye Valentino.
ReplyDeleteEste vato no es michoacano! abajo todos los carteles!
DeleteWhen are the Trevino s going to USA
ReplyDelete12:52 cuando salgan los Carnales, ese,
DeleteLos torsieron por ganar Carreras de kaballos al gabacho, and you know, that baaad! Mexicans are not supposed to be too smart and steal their gabacho lunch bread and butter.
Another song bird, like his brother, raised in a gilded cage!
ReplyDeleteThis is New York. If Gotti could walk many times so can Chapo!
ReplyDeleteWhen the prosecution trots out so many scum who are cutting sweet deals, the jury will be sickened by the prosecution's witnesses and their deal making with murders and scum and find Chapo not guilty!
If El Chapo only did his employer's business and his businessman employer can't testify, or won't, a güebo!
DeleteNot guilty verdicts are DUE sometimes.
Gotti only beat the system twice. The third time he was convicted and sentenced to life in maximum security.
DeleteThey've had a long time to build a case against Chapo. He's not getting out.
Gotti beat 3 state cases and lost the Fed case...Chapo can not beat a FED case..in a State case you have a lot more leeway to present evidence and get evidence thrown out..in a FED case you pretty much get railroaded until you are found guilty..Hardly anyone beats a Federal case..on the bright side Murder Inc and irv Gotti beat a FED trial but to be fair they only hung around criminals and were not actually criminals..chapo is for the most part screwed..he will not beat this federal case..not a chance
Delete12:04
DeleteI heard fed cases win some crazy amount of cases like 98% or some shii
Wow if they give him 10 years his time is almost up but since he is testifying against Chapo and Lordy who knows when that trial will be after all the delays are done!What happens then if his time is up and Chapo's trial is 2 years later then what?Do they hold him?They must right?
ReplyDeleteIf he makes a statement under oath, he will not have to appear in court, so regardless of when Chapo is tried, I do not think he will be kept. He should be out in December 2019
DeleteInteresting!Thanks Otis.So that means that he can't be cross examined because he won't be at trial if he finishes his sentence before the trial?So then they won't want to delay that trial too long if possible?Of course he won't be the only witness but as time passes more and more of them will finish their sentences due to their 'deals'.
DeleteIn Amerian courts the defense has the right to cross examine. You can't cross examine a statement! It's called a trial!
DeleteIf you can't examine a statement,
Deletethen you get closer to the llaves de la carsel, and a.Eric an courts allow for accused criminals to go free for reasons of national security since Lucky Luciano "helped himself to the job of keeping the harbors safe from striking harbor workers who defended their nation by throwing ducks to the German Submarines in the area, U 2woo can become an hero, sign the "release the memo" forms...
(Memo is a pendejo in spanish)
Vicentillo snitched
ReplyDeleteWhy is that bad? The Muchos use to go out like Men. At least Die fightING. Just like Tony T. Of the CDG. THERE WAS A MAN
Delete5:41 Tony Tormenta was one more pendejo,
DeleteHe would have been released by now.
Sooo, how will everybody from the sinaloa organization including chapos faction, his kids, and others view him once he is out and goes back to MX? Will he be safe cause of his father? Hmmm.
ReplyDeleteIt will amaze me if he comes back to the life when he returns to Mexico, Mayo will have his back but more likely ban him from the business, Chapitos have more of the younger generation riding with them but I doubt they'll make a move on him deep down they know Chapo not coming back alive
DeleteI disagree...Vicente made a deal. He merely cooberated the Flores testimony against Chapo, and most certainly Damasos..the Chapitos will have no Ill will, as it's known their father is never coming back. Vicente will lay low somewhere safe, and coordinate through his brother, and Mayo will retire. I believe the whole org has restructured, and territories will be divided even more. Once Mencho falls, he will be the last Big Jefe. Sinaloa getting more into production. Look how many there are already set up in Colombia and the rest of Central and South America. CDS will supply the rest of the Mexican traffickers. Less heat and violence. Just what I see them doing.
DeleteInteresting point of view Grande.
DeleteIt’s very plausible.
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All he did was say what every one knows Chapo does sell drugs that's not snitching if everybody knows all ready , he a man cause he accepted what he did and turn in money plus his father gave and facilited big ship ments of drugs to be captured now he will be out in no time
ReplyDeleteIt’s funny reading the comments on here. There’s no ill will between the Chapitos and El Nino. Chill in this business there’s a expiration date for everyone. And sometimes sacrifices need to be made
ReplyDeleteWhen he gets back it will be war against guzmanes obviously!
ReplyDeleteThere wont be no war between Los Chapitos and Los Zambadas
DeleteSounds like another split will happen.
ReplyDelete7:30 am
ReplyDeleteThat would have to apply to any and all the others who are also giving info on el chapo to the Gov..The reason his testimony is important is because they take it and add it to testimony from others like the twins as well..They can't convict chapo on what "every one knows already"..IMO the real snitch is the one who told chapo's location,since all the testimony from all the Gov witnesses together doesn't mean anything if they can't find chapo
Snitches don’t get stitches, they get 10 years. However, Mayo and Chapo probably both approved of this. He couldn’t tell them anymore then the Twins did anyways.
ReplyDeleteI really don't think he will get just 10 years and time served, he will have to serve another 10 at a minimum.
ReplyDeleteVicente, in addition to his list of charges that he pleaded to, also attempted to have Saul Rodriguez, a former police officer, in federal custody, murder the witnesses against him, from the Chicago federal building.
The judge Ruben Castillo has sentenced many high ranking Sinaloa traffickers, and won't have sympathy for Vicentillo.
Yeah Saul Rodriguez, the 10 minute cry baby drug lord for not receiving what the twins received.
DeleteI truly hope a stiff sentence is given to Vincentillo. If the court shows mercy there is no point for any of us to argue / rebuke this hypocrisy of a system!
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Wow J he tried that in U.S.?Brazenly trying to murder witnesses?What did he think he was in Mexico still?Guess he needed to get with the program in the 1st world and luckily the authorities were on to him.Guess they are worried about Chapo too trying to do the same.
Delete@ Canadiana
DeleteSaul Rodriguez had a deal pending until he violated the terms by federal prosecutors. Saul tried to get information on Vincentillo and vise / versa. Where he gave information to Vincentillo about the whereabouts of the twins wives residency for a fee.
Things many are not aware of. Which led to the stiff sentence of Saul.
Tried to play two sides of the fence and bit him in the ass in the end.
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I dont think Vicentillo is his nickname never heard anyone mention him by it back then other than El Niño. Vicentillo was given to Vicente carrillo leyva to distinguish from his uncle Vicente carrillo fuentes. I dont think theres an older Vicente related to zambada.
ReplyDeleteCorrect. He is the original Mayito.
DeleteEl Rey Zambada El Mayos brother.
DeleteYes, there is.
DeleteJesus Reynaldo "el rey" is not named vicente.
Delete"El Rey Zambada y el tragico final de sus hijos"
Delete...Jesus y Vicente Zambada Reyes...
El Debate.
My bad his son is named Vicente too he got killed recently
DeleteHe’s only returning the favor. Remember chapós gave him up for the loss of chapós son. Since willy Wronka is now in the USA, Vicente just won his golden ticket!
ReplyDeleteyou guys are all morons and belive anything you read on the internet nobody has snitched first of all, 2nd just because your a witness in a case dosent mean your snitching any body can get on the stand and bullshit there way thru so why dont you keyboard cartel warriors give it a rest
ReplyDelete4:15 you are una marrana,
Deletewe are trying to discover things and how the world turns.
I've seen many cases of 50% time served here in USA... all comes down to good behavior (in), and behavior out (parole). I have been in US court for over 20 years.
ReplyDeleteViva Sinaloa nos gusta poner dedo!
ReplyDeleteDamn, he was trafficking cocaine for over a thousand years! Damn, jk but there is a very small typo.
ReplyDeleteIf Vincente is in the witness protection program theres no way he will be returning to Mexico upon his release
ReplyDeleteY'all argue about chapo having beef with zambadas tan locos. If they didn't war when Vicente accidentally ordered the hit on Moreno why beef now. El Del sombrero is a genius put all his kids away til the wars are over and one by one they all walk out free man..first Sera then El Nino then El Gordo. No more Beltran Leyva wars nor zeta wars. And in Sinaloa todos saben que el que Manda es el del sombrero.
ReplyDeleteAfter all their release Mayo will mysteriously disappear or die of natural causes like azul. Zambadas will have served their sentences in US prisons and out of the business; “beating” the “game”.
DeleteMacho prietos pistoleros killed el moreno with out orders from what i heard they confused him with someone alse.
DeleteNegative. El Nino ordered the hit on Arturo Meza and Mayo told Chapo to make sure Moreno was not with him. When Chapo called Moreno he was at the botanica And told his dad he was not with him. He later met up with Arturo and SAS they all got it. That was a planned hit to wack Arturo Meza facts. El Nino was jealous of the money they were making.
DeleteDamn entonces fue por envidia! que culero ese.
DeleteWow you where there when they where on the phone awsome dude
DeleteScreaming out the top of my lungs antrax antrax antrax get ready for the antrax corridos reincarnated
ReplyDeleteVenyillini is going down big time.
ReplyDeleteSomeone plan this out. If things are coming down on your family. Have then busted for minor shit. After they get out 5-10 they are free to live free and live off the nest egg someone has been saving for you while you were lock up. You are still young enough to live good.
ReplyDeleteI think chapo aproved,what...they gonna give him anotjer 50 yrs to chapo? Hes already facing life,so he said go ahead and snitch and itll help u...
ReplyDeleteThis man can never return to Mexico but that's OK because he will be taken care of in the witness protection plan.
ReplyDeleteThrough his attorneys he’s waived any speedy trial claims. Plus, as a cooperating witness, the judge will grant what is known as a Rule 35, for a downward departure in the federal sentencing guidelines, which he’s allowed to do if a witness is judged by the prosecution to have rendered significant contributions to other indictments or investigations. Hence the 10 year sentence.
ReplyDeleteHe was sentenced in July. 6 months plus probatation and time served.
ReplyDeleteI will tell you the truth. Vincente has always been out. He has not been detainees since 2008. Since his arrest in Mexico and meeting with the DEA, he has been out. He was them "supposedly" extradicted to the US. He has remained free until DOJ is ready to make announcement about a Sinaloa case. He's been a pawn of DOJ from the beginning. It is correct he will get time served. That means he will be out by 2020 or tad bit later. This has been a setup from the beginning.
ReplyDelete“I will tell you the Truth”
Delete-Said no Truthful person ever.
no can do bro. have u ear bout the place in arizona ,florida and 6 more prison wit units were they keep peole in his situacions ??? cause I KNOW !!
DeleteThere may be a coordinated effort to undermine Chapo by the Mayo clan.
ReplyDeleteHaven't read the comments but it's vicentillo not Vincentillo
ReplyDeleteEven el chapo wont escape U.S. prison. A famous drug baron once said "better a grave in colombia than a cell in america". Snitching is the only way to cut a deal. Sorry cartels you wont be bribing your way out of the U.S. system, it will only give you more years and good luck digging a tunnel out of the alcatraz of the rockies. RIP el chapo if you don't die from old age in U.S. prison you'll succumb to pyschological war within your own head being locked in a cell 23 hours per day.
ReplyDeletei did 2 yeas inthe shu fed time.by the time i hit 18t months 4 guys try to kill themself. i do know whats gonna happ. to MR.GUZMAN good luck boss !!!y asta siempre
DeleteAnd its going to hurt your heart to the point of you committing suicide once the government you so believe in shows its true hand and says yes we allowed the sinaloa cartel to bring millions of tons of dope into the country oh it was because of national security. Chapo goes free. But in the middle of the nite yo honor, see national security don't want the public to know he's free.
DeleteSorry bud, chapo ain’t getting out of this one
DeleteI have a question, when is the DEa,CIA, FBI, going after the hella Angels Arian brother hood kkk and all those bikers , don't they buy all their drugs from mex , just saying , or are their hands dirty
ReplyDeleteBecause they’d solve that in a heart beat. They need to keep getting funded (keep jobs, salaries, kick backs etc.) so they need to keep this bs war on drugs going and that means fighting the big guys
Deleteo tempo todo lia menor artigos que também limpar seus motivos, e
ReplyDeleteisso também está acontecendo com isso post que estou lendo
neste momento.