Defense attorney, with his own problems, Jeffery
Lichtman, during cross examination asked Cifuentes; “You gave a story that Mr.
Guzman paid a bribe to [former Mexican president] Mr. Peña Nieto of $100
million,”
Cifuentes answered; “That’s right.”
This allegation has long lingered since just prior to
Pena taking office. Supposedly it
transpired in October 2012 which is after he was elected but before but before
December 1st when he formally took office.
Lichtman tried to hook him into the story that Pena
was paid 250M. Cifuentes said, “No he
wasn’t paid 250M but that was what Pena asked for”, I said that Chapo was
requested a different amount than what Pena was paid."
The money transaction, was by a woman intermediary,
nicknamed "Comadre María" in Mexico City, says Cifuentes.
Former
president Felipe Calderon
In a 2016 debriefing to U.S. authorities, Cifuentes
also accused former Mexican president Felipe Calderon of accepting bribes from
the Beltran Leyva Organization or BLO for protection primarily against Sinaloa
Cartel.
When asked about it by Lichtman, Cifuentes replied; “I
would like to see the document.”
Lichtman then showed the document to Cifuentes, who
said, “Right now, I do not remember that.”
He was then asked if it was true, Cifuentes said the BLO “did send their army
against Mr. Guzman.” Cifuentes also claims Chapo had a military captain and
special forces on the cartel payroll who provided information used against BLO.
The court room quickly recessed directly after this proclamation.
It is unclear how this witness was even able to sneak
this testimony in—the government already asked that this line of questioning
not be allowed in, Cogan rules in their favor and drastically limited the
testimony.
Once it was in, the government filed a sealed motion to
attempting to limit the testimony of a witness.
It could be Alex Cifuentes, but since the judge
already ruled against allowing much questioning regarding past presidents and
bribes, it would appear a private side bar or conversation out of earshot of
the jury would suffice.
The new filing is to obstruct testimony about bribes to presidents and others. I am confused as this was already ruled
on. Cogan said that line of questioning
would be too confusing for jurors.
Update:
Update:
Judge rejected the prosecution’s request, stating in
effect the cat was let out of the bag yesterday.
Full
docket text for document 551:
MOTION
in Limine to Limit Cross-Examination of Cooperating Witness Pursuant to FRE 402,
403 by USA as to Joaquin Archivaldo Guzman Loera.
Rules
of evidence 402 and 403
"Relevant
evidence" means evidence having any tendency to make the existence of any
fact that is of consequence to the determination of the action more probable or
less probable than it would be without the evidence. RULE 402
FRE 403. Evidence may be
excluded if its probative value is substantially outweighed by the danger of: Unfair prejudice →refers to the danger that
evidence might suggest an improper basis upon which the jury could decide the
case.
Prejudicial
Effect... When the evidence is called by the defense the
balance between probative value and prejudicial effect is weighed further in
the side of admission. A judge should only exclude evidence where the
prejudicial effect "substantially outweighs" the probative value.
Of course he did! His wife recently purchased a house in Hancock Park in LA. Another multi-million dollar house.
ReplyDeleteWho gives a rats ass. These guys will never go to prison. They work for uncle sam
DeleteEl Mencho must have paid the 250.
ReplyDeleteMencho doesn't pay the federal Goverment onlly the state and lower lvls. If the State wants him they can try and get him but unlike the Snitchaloas they better be ready for war.
DeleteThe fact you reference “snitching” to anything proves you don’t know anything kid. Go back to watching Gangland for your source of how the international underworld works kid
Delete1:44. No that just shows there’s two different kind of gangsters. Real ones. And snitches. Some still have nuts and a code.
DeleteHope your guys know what side on the line your on.
1:44am birds of a feather flock together.so only a snitch would be ok with another snitch💯
DeleteI hate the sell out Mexican presidents!!
ReplyDeleteHopefully AMLO stops all this nonsense
He’s been accused if taking money too, or did you think the whole poppy legalization things was from the kindess of his heart?
DeleteLegalizing poppies would do the opposite for the cartels. It would not help them Tonto
Delete8:27. Kidness of his heart? If he did not legalize it thousands would starve to death on a monthly basis. Specially since the demand for fentanyl has increased causing the value of poppy produced tar or china white to decrease drastically.
DeleteEPN is a fucking God chulada de hombre 🥰😍😍😍😍😍😍 anyway, it doesn’t make sense. if he bribed EPN then why was he caught TWICE and ultimately extradited under EPN? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
ReplyDeleteOnce squeezed for the money, he served no use to EPN...makes perfect sense.
Delete...and that is why he is being thrown under the bus. Because after all that money paid he backstabbed chapo. Remember, there is no loyalty amongst crooks and criminals.
DeleteBecause epn is smart. But the devil is smarter, $pend away epn hope it make you happy inside.
DeleteMaybe epn betrayed chapo. Be difficult to kill guy like epn
DeleteMy theory is EPN just didn't give a fuck
DeleteOr the us had something on him and forced him todo it for pr.
DeleteEPN BETRAYED THE HAND THAT FED HIM HE WAS PAYED FOR YEARS WHEN HE WAS GOV OF MEXICO CITY!!
Delete7:06 EPN didn’t fear retaliation from his family or associates though? I know I would regardless of being the president. If someone can bribe a president they. Can also bribe those close to him. What if his bodyguards or whatever he had betrayed him for a good amt of $ lol
Delete9:40 maybe he had plans of moving out of MX too who knows
Delete11:33 well if he did receive the bribe, it wasn’t for free it was for a “protection” or “favoritism” so he uh worked for it?
DeletePeña Nieta is not smart. Just was protected by the government, and media. Without that he falters.
DeleteNiiiiiiccceee. 100 Million ain’t no little shit. In cash, all at once. For that money, I’d be corrupt to, I can’t lie. It’s gonna happen either way.
ReplyDelete100 million pesos. Most likely. And EPN is not good with the Mexican people. I wouldn’t doubt the nation turning there back on EPN if USA decided to go after.
Delete@3:04
DeleteAt least you’re honest
Makes mexico look bad though even their own president was on the take. All that money isnt gonna do him well in prison. Im sure Amlo will do something
Delete7:11 No. It was not pesos. The president would not engage for 5 million dollars. When the reward on Chapo was slightly over that...
DeleteChapo was not going to give 1/10th of his fortune or 100 million dollars for anything let alone no guarantee against imprisonment where he is located now. This shit was pesos
DeleteLas traiciones están de moda entre políticos. - Sol Prendido
ReplyDeletethat is fucked up crazy stuff..
ReplyDeleteI wish I could say I'm surprised, I'm only surprised at the number, I figured it'd be higher or lower.
ReplyDeleteBusiness as usual. BFD
ReplyDeleteThe devil is waiting for you EPN. the sooner the better
ReplyDeleteatte pink p@nther
And Chapo also paid the military 10-12 million so they can fight the Beltrán Leyva cartel.
ReplyDeleteAnd the La linea as well...
DeleteAnd the Federal police for opening the path in Juarez.
DeleteThat's not much money for that kind of operation I think
Delete@3:24AM WTF u mean 12 Millions aont enough?? To kill the opposite cartel "legally" and still lookin like they doing their job? Come on now..
DeleteThis is beyond embarrassing if true. Although we all know it is. Incredibly demoralizing for the country
ReplyDeleteIts gotta be. The lifestyle and cash EPN has doesn't come from politics. Him letting Chapo get caught and sent to the US was his way of saying "How could I take a bribe if we just got him?"
DeleteI sure hope the US is following these funds. Mexico has to destroy their corrupt political class once again in history.
ReplyDeleteThe US knew this was going on. You think the DEA didn't have agreements with cartels?
DeletePRI party is done after this.
ReplyDeleteGood- now ask him who he paid on this side of the border
ReplyDeleteNobody... that is the corruption of of Latin America.... face the facts... if you are so convinced it happens in the USA provide proof or stop trolling...
DeleteGC
Wrong there are plenty law enforcement on payrolls of criminals like the border patrol and us customs officers and of course police officers lawyers you name it not just Mexico money makes the world go round!
DeleteLikely nobody here, other than his attorneys, will think of taking his money.
DeleteHe is still in jail, he’s still on trial, he’s still going to get convicted, he’s still going to spend the rest of his life in Florence ADX.
America isn’t Mexico.
He’s paid off no one here.
All he does
ReplyDeleteDeny deny
Cant believe destructive criminals
Always thru third party
Modern politics clever to the game.
No voice
No bills
No happen
Probably EPN took money from both Chapo and Mencho.
ReplyDelete100million! Wonder how much Mayo and Mencho will have to pay AMLO.
ReplyDeleteThis is Mexico. Nothing will happen. Move along. Nothing to see here.
ReplyDeleteThat's a lot of cheese partner...
ReplyDeleteYou cant operate without govt permission. Dont think for a second you can.
ReplyDeleteYou are correct.
DeleteWhat's so disturbing is no government official will ever stand trial for their role of drug trafficking.
Question remains if financial support to countries in the war on drugs should remain.
Moreover, the consequences if such a decision to stop funding will have dire effects.
The more I think about it, the more skeptical I am. $100,000,000.00 in $100 bills weights over 2,200 pounds. Moving this much weight would be really hard and require many people and lots of security.
ReplyDeleteNothing indicates it was done through the banking system. Let’s pretend it was done through banking. That would suggest the US government is either not capable of locating or is then covering up.
Mica
There are people taking 25million at a time with semi's into Mx and you find that difficult to do in Mexico...
Delete100M in deeds would only weigh a few ounces.
DeleteMica gtfo bro i swear u and Steve D are fuckin annoying. U find this hard to believe?? Dumb ass what kinda bizz u think chapo was in?? He was moving metric tons around the world!! G.C.
DeleteB.s
ReplyDeleteWhere is the Proof/evidence
Exactly lol if I was a narco I would make sure to keep proof of everyone who collaborated with me just in case they wanna act brand new lol
DeleteThe proof is in the pudding.
DeleteHa ha ha ha....are you for real you think the government the Mexican government is not corrupt??? Or you really think all the drug king pins in Mexico are free and do not get arrested because they all hide under tunnels and are lucky?? Or you think Chapo really escaped because he is lucky and smart??
Deleteyes but unless there is proof what is said is an allegation....right?
DeleteBut I would be nice to have these corrupt mex politicians arrested and also extradited...since it is them that has mex the way it is
DeleteEyewitness testimony? But like it's said it's just an allegation.
DeleteThe proof, remember chapos lawyers trying to delay the trial. They were waiting for EPN to leave office to leak this info. Also EPN flipped bc of gringos pressure. The USA used this knowledge and forced him to capture Guzman. El senor knew this and made sure his sons at least Won against damaso and settled for their freedom. Once EPN left office,it was game on. Specially since the new govt is with Sinaloa. Right now, they (AMLO) are taking away the finances of alot of these splinter groups and CJNG by hitting the gas haulichioens. CDS/CDP never got involved besides Chapitos faction. It's all good. Game plan in motion 💯
DeleteChivis, is there a recording of calls made by the twins? Not just to Chapo but to all the people they spoke to?
ReplyDeleteyes
Deletei posted the call log of recorded calls on one of the posts i did of the trial, obviously when pedro was testifying or about to. i think there are about 50 calls
Ahhh ya pero solo para leer no se escuchan?
DeleteI bet the twins won't lay low when they get out
DeleteAre there any calls with Arturo or those where they made them fear for their life ?
DeleteI was grossly off there were 100 recorded calls see the call log date, names etc in this post
Deletehttp://www.borderlandbeat.com/2018/12/el-chapo-trial-any-idiot-could-sell_19.html
SOmethings to think about
ReplyDelete1. Cifuentes is an admitted liar.
2. He has said this for a long while
3. it was not cash but a network of intermediaries headed by a Mexican woman.
4. money supposedly originated from CDMX. so AMLO if he is honest will trace the money.
5. EPN was enmeshed in dipping in the the coffers, since he was in office of which there is plenty of proof. so we know he is not honorable.
6. it would have t be a high figure for a president to accept
that said- i think the figure ---if true--is somewhere in the middle--but 50m doesn't seem enough...
Ref # 6 I've read on the news corrupt people get caught for accepting bribes for unbelievably less. Everyone has their price and limits. Money talks and BS walks.
DeleteIts not what you know its what you can prove! EPN too smart, might as well forget about it.
ReplyDeleteIt's going to make bounty hunters and photographers want to follow Pena Nieto every where he goes to see where he hid the money and with no body guards he will always look over his back for kidnappers.
ReplyDelete$100 million cold hard cash... from Chapo to Nieto. Deposited into Panama banks by Juan Armando Hinojosa Cantu...
ReplyDeleteThis guy is from Reynosa and was good friends with deceased tamaulipas governor Cantu and other poilticans in TAM
DeleteThis makes me wonder if the actual truth of something unknown has ever been posted in the BB comments.
DeleteGrupo Higa shell Companies moving that $100 million for Nieto. Nobody would suspect that money came from Chapo to Nieto...as Hinojosa Cantu is already a multi-millionaire and wouldn’t raise many red flags. But panama papers exposed Hinojosa Cantu in his money laundering of (what a coincidence) $100 million dollars...
ReplyDeleteOn point!
DeleteTo the person who sent a comment about "if he was paid off how come chapo was captured twice after escaping?"
ReplyDeletefor starters EPN wasn't president in 2001
secondly as i have stated, chapo huge mistake was humiliating EPN on the world stage by not only successfully escaping from a prison never having anyone escape from, but by one of his tunnels. This exemplified the corruption under the administration of EPN-to the world.
that action was all bets off and that is what got him extradited.
No way could that tunnel have been built without lots of help from inside. Did anyone ever take any heat for it?
DeleteChivis
DeleteIt was Conrado who helped him escape not Pena? They even met in secret with his lawyer.
Chivis, I think Chapo was gonna get extradited before he escaped the 2nd time. The US would have put too much pressure on Mexico. I think EPN just didn’t care. He’s like fuck Chapo, I’m the real jefe.
DeleteFor that money He practically sold Mexico to chapo and his organization so if chapo fucked up and brought heat to the organization he gets caught so the rest of them could freely roam Mexico with all their drugs and violence while working with the local federal and military forces...the us government should send troops to stop the fentanyl and meth manufacturing in Mexico and central America because all the drugs that enter the us and kill Americans come in though the Mexican border by land if they stop that drugs will still come in but very little they will save a lot of lives and Mexicans are pussys they will run they will not cause much harm
DeleteThe whole dynamic between EPN and Chapo is just fascinating. Two of the most powerful men on the opposite ends of the spectrum
DeleteSolid argument Chives
Delete6:54 of course, a couple dozen including the warden, then a trickling of quiet releases, including the warden. If any remain in prison only 1 or 2 remain.
Deleteyet the lowly maintenance guy chito who got the cart for chapo's escape in 2001 remains in prison for his small part.
Mexican theater amigo
Corruption of this type has been going on in Mexico since the days of Pedro Aviles and before. Continuing with Pablo Acosta, Felix Gallardo in and Guadalajara cartel… Remember Raul Salinas
DeleteIt’s a cultural phenomenon that has been going on for longer than all of us have been alive.
It is so deeply ingrained in the culture of Mexico and South America and even other drug trafficking and drug producing countries i.e., Asia
You could send in every branch and division in the U.S. Military and you’re not going to stop it— another reason is the CIA and the fact that they are complicit in many of these operations in the name of national security and gaining intell
So let’s not act like this is new El Chapo is just the latest in a long list of drug kingpins in Mexico who the government has supported via their plaza system, Yet when the government becomes upset, angry, or embarrassed due to their actions— then all bets are off and They simply take steps to extradite them, kill them or put them in prison
719 conrado sol from the chapo series??? 😂😂😂😂😂 lmao how old r u kid?? 12?? 13??? Lmao do some research first
DeleteSurprise surprise 😒
ReplyDelete100 million??? Sorry but I believe it. Mexico is known for being corrupt
ReplyDelete100 mil down the drain
ReplyDeleteM”
The mexican president is shady as f&#k
ReplyDeletePoliticians in Mexico have more arms then a octopus and there pocketing illegal money with each one.
ReplyDeleteCan you imagine if the other cartel bosses (CDN, CJNG, etc) were paying him as well?
ReplyDeleteI imagine they were, or are, no?
Epn has immunity its part of the retirement package what he doesnt have is protection there is a differnace what to do he stays in mexico wind up getting killed run wind up arrested share a cell in supermax with chapo hes fucked either way
ReplyDeleteIts called living elsewhere.
DeleteProbably on his private island raking in the cash from investment
All the people eating this story up like it's factual, just because you want something to be true doesn't means it is.
ReplyDeleteAlso, if this were done it would be Chapo Mayo and a dozen of their Capos investing together in any multi million dollar package, the risk of the package not bearing fruit would be too great for just one person.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.borderlandbeat.com/2014/02/phil-jordan-chapo-funded-epns-campaign.html?m=0 this was informed about four years ago
ReplyDeleteJei Jo Jei Jo
ReplyDeleteTengo el fuero
I totally believe it! How much is paid depends on who you are. I have paid cops in Mexico a few thousand pesos and some just 500 pesos to get out of stupid things including minor traffic violations. Imagine what those with any power will take!!! I could not believe my own self that lowlife federales took $2500 pesos from me & my now ex husband (Mexican) and he was yelling and swearing at the commandante about how they were crooks with badges to steal & negotiating with them on the highway near Guaymas the whole time one of them is telling me we are going to jail. What a bunch of BS. So I said if that was true I might as well have a cigarette now huh? Yeah right. Money talks and you don't need a lot of it there! So weird I believe these stories for real.
ReplyDelete@ 8:42 pm
DeleteAnd I don’t believe you for a second
Same happened to me in rocky point and morelia
Delete656 perhaps you should go to Mexico, and drive your own car around, perhaps visit boys town, and if you get pulled over by the police you’ll believe 842 instantly… This is happened to me and my friends on one of our many trips across the border 20-30 years ago More times than I can remember.
DeleteI have lived near the border of Mexico for over 50 years and I’m very familiar with Mexican cops and how they treat Americans. Clearly you are not
So sit on your couch in some comfy state in the US and troll the people who are posting actual real facts Or take a drive down to Mexico for the first time in your life and see for yourself. You’ll find it a lot different than just reading about it on the Internet. Jack ass
Yeah cause her story was so unbelievable smh
Deletewhere Is OFAC when you need them???
ReplyDeleteI hope chapo can proof this-time for epn to pay the bill.
I don’t believe Peña Nieto will take money from Natcos. A president like Peña has many other ways of making a lot more money in other ventures. Giving construction contracts to people will give him a lot more.
ReplyDeleteI know ha i still believe in santa claus too. Come on if u got $1000 in yo pocket and u see $100 on the floor u will pick them up. These mexican politicians are in the game for the sole purpose of get rich or die trying cuh
DeleteRemember when EPN was told el chapo escaped http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2015/09/penas-reaction-when-hearing-of-el.html?m=0
ReplyDeleteCalderon got offered 20 mil dollars per month by la familia Michoacána and he turned it down. Wonder why
ReplyDeleteM”
He didn't turn it down actually, if you refer the 2010 Dec LFM-POLICE shootout
Delete@ 11:23
DeleteHow do you know ?
11:23 PM He never turned it down. He got the money all he had to do was finish off half of La Familia Michaocana so Nazario, La Tuta, Kike, and a few others could have the whole cake instead of half.
DeleteSorry I mean 20 mil pesos (not dollars)
DeleteM”
EPN never had money before he went into government, his family is not rich. So one can assume that all of his wealth is from donations for favours!! all generated in DF, I believe that he had some position during the time the cartels controlled the main airport in mexico city
DeleteLa familia michoacana was getting pretty big and powerful but Calderon put a stop to that. I bet chapo got nervous and paid Calderon to arrest the capos from michoacan.. you already know that's how cds rolls.. they just forgot about 1 guy that is biting them in the rump and took their most lucrative plazas. Tijuana, colina, jalisco, baha California and a few more. Wonder if he will go out blasting or snitching like the sinaloas.. I doubt he will fold like vicentillo and chapo
DeleteAll government gets a piece of that dirty money but you never hear about them getting jail time or getting busted
ReplyDeleteI don't think the President would risk this when he is already rich.
ReplyDeleteGreed knows no bounds
DeleteThen sadly u dont know the history of Mexico and her presidents.
DeleteIf he paid $100 million to peña, wonder how much these americans got paid. Los gringos nunca la queman la mayoria son macisos.
ReplyDeleteEl chubidu
Pena N left office with dirty hands.
ReplyDeleteFor a 100 million chapo shld of been running los pinos. If he did pay he nieto shld be killed for not providing any protection. This prooves the most crooked are the "legit" politicians.
ReplyDeleteMr. Peña Nieto needs to be extradited to America. Where they can lock him up for life.
ReplyDeleteNot Pena Neito, he looked the other way, since he got 100 million from Chapo, read your info.
ReplyDeleteAll of those profiles are fake. It's been confirmed several times.
ReplyDeleteChapo get your family to get you a refund. This is one case that nieto shld be hit to make a point. So politicians will refuse the money or take it but if you take it deliver or there will be consequences and repercussions like eddie murphy in life.
ReplyDelete