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Thursday, January 3, 2019

El Chapo Trial: Vincente Zambada Niebla rulings-He is now on the witness stand

Chivis Martinez Borderland Beat

"Fly on the Wall: Odds and ends from El Chapo trial

As I predicted, it is Vincente Zambada Niebla [VZN] is the next CW to testify. Courtroom observers say VZN and El Chapo exchanged nods of recognition and smiles when seeing each other for the first spotting one another.    




Judge Cogan has carefully guarded VZN in his rulings, so much so it has raised the eyebrows in courtroom observers.  However, some critical rulings would appear to fortify appeal filings.

Off limits or severally limiting cross examination, is the format presented so far.

First is the nixing of VZN claim that the U.S. DEA cut a deal with Sinaloa Cartel to allow them to operate untouched in exchange for information on other cartels.  VZN submitted court filings on this manner, which is something the U.S. adamantly denies ever happened.

Then there is the matter of “Fast and Furious”.

The U.S. government used "stimulus" money to fund Project Gunrunner/Fast and Furious, which allowed known criminals to purchase guns in an effort to gain the intelligence on the cartels.

Sinaloa Cartel was a prominent figure in the operation as many of the weapons ultimately landed in the hands of the cartel.  Multiple seizures mixed the weapons with the Sinaloa Cartel.

The prosecutors wanted a ban of any line of questioning with respect to Fast and Furious, this appears outrages since they are planning to enter into evidence weapons that have been identified as those used in the Fast and Furious operation.

Naturally, defense attorneys want to question VZN on the subject, but judge Cogan, who at first look was iffy about the issue, now has slammed shut the door to that line of cross examination. Saying “It would be confusing.”

Another check mark for the appeal of El Chapo…IMO
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Judge Cogan also has barred any questioning regarding alleged corruption and payoff of Mexican political leaders such as the past presidents.

The government shutdown and the El Chapo Trial

The government shut down has yet to affect the trial.  And the daily expense is record shattering.
Reported by CourthouseNews,  because of collected fees and other sources, the Federal Court system is business as usual.   
“For government lawyers and the U.S. marshals securing the high-profile Brooklyn trial, however, continued proceedings have meant that they must work without pay until the court’s funds runs out on Jan. 11. The U.S. Marshals Service has had a heavy presence in and around the Guzman courtroom for nearly two months now. While typically dedicating three from their ranks to guarding the slippery defendant during testimony — Guzman twice escaped high-security prisons in Mexico before his extradition — U.S. marshals also personally transport the trial’s 12 anonymous jurors and four alternates to and from the courthouse.

Deputy U.S. marshals also handle the Explosive Detection Dogs Unit assigned to the courthouse for the case. 
Drew Wade, a spokesman for the service, sent some context Wednesday for news reports suggesting that the shutdown has required 3,600 deputy U.S. marshals to work without pay. 
“While all U.S. Marshals Service employees are critical, only excepted staff like deputy U.S. marshals are authorized and required to conduct official business during a government shutdown,” Wade said in an email. Should the federal courts exhaust their funding reserves, Wade assured that “U.S. marshals will continue to protect the court family and other protectees.”
If that does happen, people like Judge Cogan will continue to be paid, others like the jurors will not.

Courtroom gossip reported by Mica: VZN looks just like his arrest photo- “looking like a million bucks” 

Usually court is not in session on Fridays, this week is an exception.

159 comments:

  1. Looking forward to damaso, should be very interesting as he was one of chapo's right hands, and the learning more about his escape from Puente Grande will be amusing.

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    1. he just testified that the laundry cart rolled away and Chapo thought it was going to tip over

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    2. Rolled away? More specific please

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    3. Told u it has to be an agreement u dont nod and exknlodge someone and smile at someone ratting on u

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    4. Great stuff I hope you can continue. Mica also

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    5. Hi Chema, apparently it rolled out of the grasp of the guard--it must have been on an incline. chapo was under sheets and blankets so couldn't determine where he was rolling too and was fearful the cart may tip over

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    6. in this world you do chema. unless there is hate.

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    7. Agree chivis 10:13

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    8. Thanks for the info chivis...LM10

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    9. Okay Chema. On my novela this week (Señora Acero 5) the guy that handled the money for "ALL" the cartels in Mexico said this interesting bit of info. A capo is getting ready to betray you when he smiles. Or something like that. Meaning he's too happy about something, and it ain't good. Idk what kind of nod this was that they exchanged but it sent chills down my spine when I saw that episode. And thought of this😂 Yikes!

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  2. I'm so jealous of the jurors and journalists that get to see him. :(

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    1. Chivis I like that you added that courtroom gossip I read on Alan's twitter that he's also well spoken....lol didn't think he was so old though.

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    2. Believe me, you have it better going where you're at.

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  3. Once again no goverment official will be brought to light and will walk scott free.

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    1. Like Oliver north with a slap on the wrist for engulfing the US with cocaine.
      Added with a pardon and a TV show.

      Such hypocrites when justice is not enforced to all.

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    2. No kidding... the trial is only aimed at El Chapo... the dea fast and furious and Mexican and us governments should not be able to disallow any evidence against themselves... it should all be brought to light... nobody on this planet should be above the law... the defense team should be able to use this because it is a part of the evidence against EC...
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    3. This my be the biggest railroad job on a defendant in America since they would arrest, convict and hang black men for fabricated crimes. Just another black mark on America.

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  4. I hope youre also right about this trial ending sooner.

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    1. Mijo they say 2-3 months, sorry not sooner, Chapo is getting hit with a lot of incriminating items.

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    2. Didn’t they say 4 months at first?

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    3. The judge even said it would end sooner. VZN is a strong witness. I would bet they are a little over half way through at this point. It just depends how long each witness is on the stand. VZN is a huge part of this case, but the defense will probably start and finish cross-examination tomorrow, Monday at the latest.

      Mica

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  5. BB thank you
    Chivis & Mica, I have been looking forward seeing the coverage.

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  6. They nodded and acknowledge each other. A playbook for life is more powerful then a playbook for sports... With true honesty

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    1. A mutual agreement was made prior to testimony. As I stated all along. Chapo is Americas monster all else is confidential.

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    2. Lol sure tontos

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  7. Great shit man! Thank you!

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  8. CHIvis you didn’t predict shit relax lol

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    1. do you have a fever willis? of course i did, three times. and this below posted by mica, who i told yesterday it would be VZN, an easy call for me which is why i posted the plea deal and transcript.

      posted by mica

      @Chivis
      I thought about what you shared yesterday. You said the son of Mayo would take the seat and that was before anybody mentioned it. You're like the oddsmaker for the casino! [end]

      You should take a reading comprehension course or begin reading all the words.

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    2. Honestly, Chivis and I emailed about it yesterday and I thought Margarito would be next (along with many reporters). Chivis said, nope it will be VZN.
      Mica

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    3. she predicted the twins would testify last, which she was wrong about.

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    4. such a hater, why are you here you ungrateful fuck? I saw one of those predictions in a comment thread. Keep up the outstanding reporting Chivis.

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    5. 10:40
      I said Margarito would go last, if the prosecution is smart. In fact I said they did not need Pedro. i thought he was weak and would be confusing.

      Margarito still may. I say that because he is the one with the most hard evidence, recordings, etc. also he is the alpha twin. He will be an impressive witness, no one stronger so a great choice should be last as the last witness the jury will hear from. a great closer.

      So for those reasons I would choose Margarito. But this prosecution could do anything. they were not smart to bring all these unneeded CWs. jury falling asleep, too much info, and long assed stories that went no where---like setting up big drug deals with chapo---problem they never came to fruition.

      today we have vzn telling the jury that he was there when chapo asked mayo for permission to kill -- doesn't that go to the suggestion that mayo was in fact the supreme leader?

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    6. You guys fail to realize Mayo is ten plus years older than chapo so he always had the upmost respect for him and consulted him on everything and vice versa they were both Supreme leaders that’s why it was called the federation -Sinaloa MV

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    7. yes she said margarito. btw twins can't go together last on the stand. she would never say the twins will testify last and she has been good at predictions, got to give the lady credit. Mica and Chivis the best chapo coverage anywhere.

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    8. @ 10:00 If you’re going to be a jack ass and rude dixkhead then please leave, particularly if you’re going to ignore the actual true information and ACCURATE FACTS...or maybe it’s @realdonaldtrump

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    9. MSSQL exactly my point...reasonable doubt goes in favor of the defendant

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    10. #ChivisForPresident

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    11. Seems the gov is the one that keeps raising the reqsonable doubt. I agree this is all too much. All these CW's have dropped lil things that are raising doubt. Shoulda stuck to the Flores' twins, and the money lady ( can't recall her name). Maybe a couple LE's. Game over. Instead this circus is just getting started, and they're making our judicial system look like Keystone Kops. Crazy stuff happens when you make tired jurors think too much. Gotti, Gotti Jr, OJ, amongst many others. Why even chance it? I loved Rey's and Chupetas testimony, and a couple others, but I found it more favorable to the defense, as some of these guys are even more guilty than Chapo of crimes against the US.

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    12. Chivis, I'm glad you post these trolls. For one they're funny, and then all of us get to shred on those who dare insult our Rock Star! We got yo back girl!

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    13. jjaja yup--it's what I call a "have at it"

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  9. all the reporters in the courtroom are commenting on his handsome looks!

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    1. see how it isn't just us Chivis

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    2. jaja I know---i know! first thing I thought of, but for me my opinion stands.

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    3. I definitely see your point, believe it or not. Besides being Mayo's son, I have no idea of what other "notable" thing he has done (lack of better word). There's so much info about his dad, Chapo, and many others yet I don't recall anything about him. Casi como a "y este quien es?" moment. Just that I'd personally use "y esta belleza de hombre quien es" jaaaa :)

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    4. Y las mujeres la neta
      Ven dinero y se les van los ojos
      - los tucanes de Tijuana

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    5. If not his looks, what makes you to find him appealing?
      Just curious lol

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    6. Hell yeeee he is! He's so gq! It's his facial bone structure. His jawline 😻

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    7. Compared to chapo and the rest of them he's a model lol

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    8. He trafficked tons of cocaine, allegedly had a pact with DEA. I’m unaware of any murders/massacres attributed to him. 🤨 I don’t think there’s any. Maybe someone else knows a bit more about him

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    9. Wish I was in the courtroom

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  10. VIcente and Ivan Archivaldo are the best looking capos I heard Ivan was with Belinda singer

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    1. Well Belinda is also a cutie lol

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    2. Que te pasa chulis el macho prieto era el mas chulo

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    3. Actually Lazca and El Diego were and are better looking.

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    4. Chicas por favorrrr. El macho prieto noo. el LAzca looked so sadistic I could never find him attractive. Alright I googled el Diego and you’re right. Esta chulo. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

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    5. VIcente & The Chapitos are the best looking- something about the water in Sinaloa.

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    6. The water in Sinaloa is full of surgeons. They're all short, pale, huge wide noses, greasy looking straight to wavy hair, longggg legs and short torsos, and short necks. Andddd fat cheeks. And some of them have weird foreheads. Like little foreheads with strange hairlines or really huge foreheads. They don't get middle ground. It's extreme foreheads. I think Jalisiciences and Zacatecanos take the cake. And that only applies to looks and style.

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    7. @11:42 it’s called IVF and plastic surgery..

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    8. Mencho is way more handsome

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    9. Los mas guapos somos los de oaxaca, puebla y michoacan . Somos los brat pits de mexico

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    10. 2:32 first of we’re talking about top capos second every states have short dark ugly people but you can tell your just hating on Sinaloa

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    11. 4:33 I don’t think they’v had any plastic surgery you sound dumb

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    12. Who has seen a pic of macho prieto?

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    13. ZVN says he is not sure if macho was really killed.

      http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2014/12/ifai-requests-pgr-clarify-death-of-el.html

      http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2013/12/el-mayo-reportedly-gave-up-macho-prieto.html#more

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    14. Made my day lol

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    15. macho prieto is very alive. he is in a wheel chair from his injuries in peñasco and also retired.. word is that he is in the coachella area.
      -M21

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    16. The day macho prieto "died" his body was stolen by one of his men. That man was in fact his nephew. He made up the last of the commando fighting for macho that day. They say hes wheelchair ridden. His line and people however are still very active in Culiacan as security for the Zambadas.

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    17. M21 Coachella California??

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  11. Mayo and chapo had a solid relationship when chapo got out of jail Mayo gave him half of every kilo in Mexico 🇲🇽 so he can get back on his toes...LM10

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    1. What they call “#Friendshipgoals” 🤣

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    2. @11:03 what is LM10? You post some good stuff, I hope it is true because it is interesting.

      Did 006 stop posting? I have not seen his GN Special Forces comments lately. Thank god for that

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    3. Yes LM10. Cool insight or whatevaaa but where's Commander Dog? He had entertaining material 😂 Made me feel like his uncle was Chapperz and he was living in the front and center most trenches in Sinaloa🤣 Come backkkk Jackkkk. We need ur narratives

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  12. Great stuff...have to disagree Chivis...and agree with Chema this is strategy/deal

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    1. The government is not going to spend the largest amount in prosecutor history to settle on a deal. Sorry, but it ain't gonna happen.

      Mica

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    2. Not deal with the government but between the capos

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    1. I am here trying to keep up with the live blog gossip on the trial. http://borderland-beat-forum.924382.n3.nabble.com/El-Chapo-s-Trial-Post-Updates-td4102957i600.html#a4104481

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  14. going to be gone until this evening sometime. check out mica's coverage on forum until then!. ...

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    1. I can’t believe his family (I assume wife and children) is already here 😱😱 that was quick! He better show offf and spill allll the beans ✋🏻

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  15. Most sons of famous narcos never live up to their fathers name, Chapitos might be the exception but this guy sure seem promising before his arrest he sure looked the part

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    1. This dude was the chosen one. Ivan and chaps kids are what we have unfortunately. Vicente was 10× the leader any other jr is or was

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    2. VZN being a CW unfortunately its over for him he's not welcomed back, nobody is after testifying.

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    3. He's out soon....I think it won't be long before he is back, and will be the heir apparent. If he stays in US, and outta the game, then Flaco will lead CDS alongside Chapitos. I could see Vicente leading from the shadows, and letting Ivan be the "Face". Sound familiar?? JMO

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  16. Mayo just turned 71 on January 1st

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    1. Damn imagine waiting for the new year at the hospital bc yo kid couldn’t wait 😐🤨✋🏻

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    2. Woah... TIL that Mayo is FOUR years older than RCQ...........

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    3. They not even searching for him along with el azul due to them passing the age limits LMAO. Same will go for Caro Quintero.

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    4. I think RCQ is a different deal. The US wants him for the Kiki Camarena murder. They made Mexico keep the other Guadalajara big wigs, but RCQ squeaked out. The US wants him and Mencho bad, to put on their Mt Rushmore of Bad Hombre's they've brought down. JMO

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  17. Evyetones talking about snitching, this is business as usual, the Guzmán family and associates are operating as usual, El Chapo is going away, his time has run its course. His partners like El Mayo will continue to operate and die of old age or a bullet and the machine will keep operating. If it was me, I would tell my son to tell them b.s. on me and get out ASAP and come home. 25 means out in 10! And the pacas de $$$ are waiting!

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    1. And that $1B paid, and this testimony, means he will be out this year.

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  18. Funny how the American gov has basically barred any testimony about their work/collaboration/involvement with CDS. You know the game is rigged when testimony and cross examinations are predetermined.

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    1. So true.
      A relative of mine received so much backlash from Operation Fast and Furious. Something's are just best kept quiet.
      Then again he was following orders.
      Can only imagine the agreement between DEA and Sinaloa to be true.
      What gets me is why those meetings were not recorded as evidence in case of treachery? I would have.

      Always protect yourself from all. Always.

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    2. Maybe both sides do have such "tapes". The DEA wouldn't want that info out. CDS wouldn't want the details out either. Incriminating for all. That's why this whole trial is a sham. The gov can bring any evidence they want, but redact, suppress, and ban most any details regarding any gov cooperation. JMO

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  19. When is chapo gone stand against him self. Cus thata how he roll

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  20. Is Vicente snitching on Chapo or not?

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    1. He's regurgitating common knowledge. From what I see into his testimony, he's giving his spins on events. Nothing eartshattering. Seems he's implicated himself and father even more than Chapo, although he did say his dad and Chapo called shots, but had to ask Azul for permission to whack people, and from what I've read in several different places is that nobody moves anything without Azul's blessing. If he's alive. That guy fascinates me. So little is really known about him...Mayo must've really learned from him. I think that Azul is dead, and Mayo took his place, as kind of the Czar of Mexico's drug trade. That's why he's so untouchble. After his brother, and Son openly ratted him in n court, he's either completely immune, or also dead. All just speculation.

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  21. El VZN..... his not a smart dude.... just a lucky mofo...... he thought he could buy rocket launchers in the US..... why didn’t he just go balls out and try to purchase an atomic bomb....... stupid dude....... and some of you readers might think I’m serious too......

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    1. His people had those weapons for him it was like buying a new pair of shoes. It's hard for you to comprehend because tmyou have a tiny bird brain.

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  22. Looks like jail is serving him well....but we already no he’s not in jail

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  23. Chapo had a lot of money buy he got filthy rich when he started making China white with colombian cooks and flooding the us with it now his sons are still in charge of the business but they are are working with pure fentanyl

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    1. Many of those were independents in Sinaloa doing the fentanyl stuff. Many where Sinaloenses working with Michoacanos buying machines to process it in California and bringing it to Mexico. The materials were primarily brought through Lazaro Cardenas and Manzanillo ports. Chapo made lots or money with cocaine and taxing "tienditas"

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  24. With the judge stopping so much for defence counsel might as well just send Guzman to ADX and save taxpayer $$.

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  25. So why is hard evidence being brushed under the rug by this judge? They allowed a lot of CWs talk their butt off about God knows what. Nothing relevant really. But can't specify more about illegal doings within the govt?! So he gets about 5-6 levels dropped because he's a CW? Out of 20 something levels? Why does that not seem much to me😂😂

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  26. They need to let VZN , out so he can be with his family , and they all live happy ever after , while the US can’t make a desicion !

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    1. Los Independientes need him not many are enjoying Ivan and Alfredo.

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    2. Of course the traitors are not enjoying the wrath of los chapitos

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    3. Must suck having to listen to Ivan.The skinny man on the other hand is a chip off the old block just like his old man. No wonder people rather work for the MAIN LINE.

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    4. People respect El Flaco and Ovidio more. El Señor de las Trocas sigue activo desde Tamazula...

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  27. Chapo will be back to slap mencho on the face, sinaloas are the baddest ever in mafia. Arriva aguaprieta !!

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  28. A damaso guy named tony montana got killed this week. El chapo is fucked in vzn shld of done the same thing chapo shld have done. Plead guilty and hope u go home like oziel did. By going to trial chapo put a noose around his neck. He most likely will die in an amarican jail to the dismay of ppl like me cus i dont think we shld foot the bill for the trial much less for his jail term. If it was up to me we shld drive all this ppl to the border and litteraly kick his ass out of a car in mexican soil.The usa cant lock up all the criminals in the world. We are not the worlds cop.

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    1. If I recall correctly el Montana of los Damasos got his wig split literally by los chimales gente de Ivan in 2016 you're a little late bud thT war was won.

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    2. Theres so many errors in your nonsense. First of all Montana was killed 2016. Secondly Osiel is not home lmao and lastly they didn't offer chapo a plea deal. Either you can't read or your comprehnesion skills are non existent.

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    3. Dude saw a recycled post on Blog del Narco. That site cracks me up now. Complete joke. The National Enquirer of Narcos.

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    4. al tony montana lo dejaron en la pura entrada de eldorado sentado. en estos dias festivos a de haber visitado a su familia escondido pero lo vieron o alguien aviso y aparecio muerto enpezando el año.

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    5. Montana fue abatido en 2016 en navolato sinaloa ay video de la pelea lo mataron los chimales gente del hijo del chapo

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  29. These two cats will play the system just like they’ve always have. It don’t matter who rats who at this point. Chapos lived his, Vicente will soon be out to live his.

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  30. El chapo is fryed, hora viene lo weno agarrense .CDNG will take over DGO y sonora . CDS will run to mexicaly like mini lic.

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    1. GTFOH!!!!....CDS hasn't missed a beat. Who do you think sent that Lil bitch tail tucked a whining to Mexicali??? Who scared his old man into begging Mencho for help, and then basically turning himself in, and begging to be extradited??

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    2. No grandecerrojo you gtfo , CDNG viene por todas las canicas and now chapos kids will run to the closest border for help. Mencho will take over all of mexico, el señor de los gallos no anda con cosas.

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  31. Does anyone know if Vicente has been in solitary confinement his whole time he in us?

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    1. He has a cell mate and is able to hang out with other inmates?

      Damn he’s living the life

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    2. He’s in general population?

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    3. Wait wuttttt Chivis. He's in Gen Pop?!!!

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    4. he was for years, the question was is he is solitary which is punitive, now if the question is "protective custody" that is different. I believe he is and it could be the U Marshall at this point until sentencing.

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    5. VZ and Chino Anthrax were both in protective custody in MCC San Diego . VZ was transferred to Brooklyn to testify how can it even be a question if he’s in gen pop the guy is a rat

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    6. Vicente has been in Illinois since he was extradited he’s never been in San Diego fool . He was extradited to Chicago

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    7. That Rat paid over a billion dollars. I bet he's in a ClubFed, under different name with White Collar dudes. From what they say he looks pretty good for a guy who's been locked up for a decade. He's spitting old common news. All planned, along time ago. JMO

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    8. He was in "Milan, Michigan"

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  32. I see a lot of his old associates testifying against him. Wouldn't be crazy if they brought his enemies as well. Like like Benjamin arellano or osiel that would be wild

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    1. El Mon has proved he won’t open his mouth..

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    2. 442 El Mon is dead FOOL no shit his mouth ain't opening. EL MIN however is busted in USA c'mon mcfly get it together

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    3. I think Osiel, just wants to finish his time, and try to make it back to Mexico alive. IDK....that guy might get whacked by CDN, or Zetas..I'm sure he still has money, and some pull, but If I was him, I'd have private security take me straight to the next flight outta Mexico, and go hide and enjoy what he has left if any.JMO

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  33. They found a babis body burnt they killed fathers with their sons just today. What is going on in mexico. Amlo are you going to destroy this bastards or are you a piece of shit coward like the men that preceded you. The most brutal criminals have to be destroyed. Not eve locked up. Killed on site. Or mexico will fail as a country. Or may be is to late. The usa goverment needs to put sanctions against the mexican goverment to wake it the fuck up.

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    1. Yes I saw that pic on Twitter. How do we teach people that their are certain things you shouldn’t do? - Sol Prendido

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    2. And how does one “destroy the bastards”..?

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    3. First sol u do not procreate certain roaches. Thats the main problem this laxras multiplying by the minute.

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    4. Sol..that's what you get when you add Meth to Zeta like brutality. It seems as Mexico's Meth problem grew, so did the extent of this heinous savagery. That tweak may be the worst of all the poisons they push. JMO

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  34. Can’t wait too here he’ll be serving a life sentence

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  35. To the follower that wants to impeach me. PLEEEEEEZE do!! and you take my job~PLEEEEEEEZE do!👏👏👏

    Seriously your #ImpeachChivis was hilarious I want to impeach myself.

    Chivis

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    1. Stop playing . Don’t leave us 🥰 I know you’re having surgery this month and I hope that goes well and you recover soon 😍🎈 I appreciate you

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    2. Always have said it and i will say it again
      Chivis 2020 till the wheels fall off

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  36. This is plan already was plan for years and chapo had an agreement with el mayo over this.Do you see a war starting in Sinaloa nope and it won’t hapen

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    1. Snitching is a way of life now for this millenial narcos.

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  37. From what I read... is that VZN can't go back to Mexico in his plea deal it states he has to be in some type of custody watch after he gets released... He won't be going back to Mexico plus he might not be wanted in sinaloa even if he's dad is el mayo..someone out there might want to take em out for good!!

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    1. Chivis can you confirm this?

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    2. Same happened with serafin

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    3. For a certain period of time or never again?

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  38. I’m surprised they haven’t said anything about chino antrax

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    1. Yet, why cuz they haven asked him.

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  39. Most if not all of the CWs will walk after this trial and I believe most are in protective custody—VZN...The US government has a history of doing this take George Jung and his testimony against C Lehder and F Ochoa as example and many many others...And I believe they would cut a deal with the devil just to get one of his demons

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  40. Sinaloa groupies be like"its all planed out that cds are snitching and fake news that cjng are taking their plazas" lol

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    1. Planned or not these jiñaloas do not get it. Fuck a snicth they end in ditches

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