President Andrés Manuel López Obrador said
that "the intervention of a foreign government is not necessary to deal with
these cases".
Mexico City.- After an
attack on the LeBarón family in Chihuahua, which left nine dead, including six
minors, the president of the United States, Donald Trump, extended an offer of help to Mexico to "clean the
cartels."
"This is the time
for Mexico, with the help of the United States, to make war against drug
cartels and erase them from the face of the earth. We are simply waiting for
the call of their new [great] president!" through your Twitter account.
"If Mexico needs
or requests help to end these monsters, the United States is ready, willing and
able to get involved and do the work quickly and effectively," he added.
Trump also pointed out
that López Obrador is a great President, but the cartels have become large and
powerful, so "an army is needed to defeat another army."
However, President
Andrés Manuel López Obrador said that the intervention of a foreign government
is not necessary to deal with these cases.
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| 6 month old twins among the dead children |
"I respond as soon
as I finish, just as he contacted me about Culiacan, I am going to contact President
Trump when the conference ends if he asks to speak with me," he said.
Just on October 19,
Presidents Trump and López Obrador spoke by telephone after the failed
operation in Culiacán to capture Ovidio Guzmán López, son of drug trafficker
Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán, a call that the Mexican president
described as respectful.
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| 14 year old injured in the attack |
It’s hard to take Trump seriously but Americans that have been killed or murdered anywhere in the world become a rally cry by American citizens and this may not go away very soon.
ReplyDeleteThank you AMLO for being inept and not caring about your own people.
DeleteYou have just helped Trump win a second term as Mexico will be again be the boogeyman.
Mexico, a county of criminals, cop killers, drug manufacturing and corridor to Mexican and Central American criminals that come the the United States.
Queso
Those mormoms have a blood feud among themselves. Dont blame the cartels. Look at the history of the Lebaron.
DeleteYou need to move out of Mexico Queso since you claim to live there and feel the way you do.
DeleteThe LeBarons are extremely politically connected. Surely this is the excuse the US needed to move.
DeleteLet the cleaning begin!!!!
Delete@11:51
DeleteIt’s in process.....🙂
I like 🇲🇽, I just can’t stand the Clown in Chief AMLO, and the way things are going, with UBER as public enemy #1 as opposed to the Cartels, political corruption, extortion, lawlessness, and government disregard for the safety of the average (me) citizen, I will be outskies soon.
Queso
How did all those candidates get kiled? Yet amlo lived to get elected? That in and of itself is suspect. I bet if none of those poor people died, he would've never been president. Seriously how ain't that a huge thing? Your casa already forgot it. Journalists can't put out the truth. Lest they feel a knife on their throats. That's why y'all need the right to bear arms. Otherwise your plight will always be hid. Cause journalists cannot do their jobs. Exposing corrupt police. Exposing corrupt governors. Man once your governors are owned. Expect for you to be murdered. With absolute impunity. But with your presidents bought and paid for. You guys are living in absolute Hell. Any and everyone will be hostages. And your government will be in on it. Your cartels are the government now. Why should you guys even vote anymore? Or even ever hope to have freedom. Peace of mind. Or any future. Stay strong my brown brothers.
DeleteEl Smarto
Queso eres de descendencia mexicana? Pregunto porque dices que quieres al país, no lo amas. Ahora porque está AMLO no te gusta el trayecto del país, y que pensabas cuando estaban Salinas, Zedillo, Fox, Calderón y EPN? La matanza de inocentes no sucedía en las presidencias anteriores? Secuestros, extorsión, corrupción, falta de empleos y el no poder avanzar por méritos propios solo empezaron con este sexenio? A y los indocumentados centro americanos que buscan el sueño americano son delincuentes y también "tus" paisanos mexicanos por ingresar a EEUU sin ser inspeccionados. De casualidad no eres "Kab" que ahora puso en forum que México ���� vale madre y que EEUU es el mejor país del mundo?
DeleteAh Mexico...the future is so, so bright.
ReplyDeletePulls up to drive through rolls window down: Hi, yes, I’d like to order 3 large hugs with little kisses and 1 small hug with extra squeeze.
American in back of car: “Can you make 1 of the large hugs a semiautomatic with extra kiss clips instead?
I don’t laugh at Americans for having guns - guns don’t kill people. I don’t think it’s funny that anybody is dying - what I DO think is funny is how blindly naive some people are. What’s going on Mexico is far bigger than guns - if you think eliminating them would be the answer then that includes you.
DeleteGuns have never helped Americans with crime.
DeleteYou are a moron, guns have protected plenty of Americans from crime.
DeleteDo your research. Some lives have been saved by Americans carrying and stopping further deaths. Mexico cartels are out of control. It needs to stop. Like the OG cartels from the 70's and 80' had more control. Now , any kid can live fast and die young with out giving a shit if innocents get in the way. It's out of control. The big dogs need to get together and have more control over the substance of who gets what plaza like the older generation. Peace is the order to control the plazas and their people. It's getting out of control and it will only get worse unless the cartels communicate and control the violence. I know it will be difficult but it is what it is.
DeleteThe US needs to stay out of Mexico's business. Who is buying the drugs..... people in the US. Mexico is a great country and not everything the US is saying about them is true.
DeleteMr. Trump stay out of Mexico. It was only 9 people. We will arrest them hug and kiss them and give new 50 Cal Sniper Rifle.
ReplyDeleteNo...no pasa nada. Todo esta bien. Mientras no me afecte a mi...(todos en Mexico)
ReplyDeletefor real, they are not in denial but they dont know better, its normal to them.
Delete"No Pasa Nada.". I always cringe when I here that statement.
DeleteTrump is probably the first American president not to be in the drug trade because he just offered Mexico military help to combat the cartels but i don't know if Mexico will accept his help or how serious Trump is to fighting the cartels but it's a telling sign that he would say that publicly
ReplyDeleteMexico will NOT accept. Cartels fund the government. didn't you read the response from AMLO, the same guy who said it's inhumane to put chapo away for life. Trump's response was cordial friendly and probably serious. We already helped. Our intelligence led to Chapo's son and the inept government of Mexico dropped the ball again.
DeleteSoros ordered the operative knowing it would fail. Too much oil and minerals to let the mexicans keep when it could be bought for peanuts by bribing corrupt politicians.
DeleteI believe Trump would make them reel from very serious pain if given the green light.
DeleteI believe Mencho would be murdered by Delta Force within 2 months absolute maximum.
Would it make a difference? Absolutely not, I'm afraid
CDS just made things worse for themselves this was a retaliation attack on Americas for the DEA going after Ovidio a couple weeks ago but no America should pay the Penalty for the DEA going after Chapo sons
ReplyDeleteTHEY HAVE OPENED A CAN OF ASS WHIPPING...ITS GOING TO START....
DeleteYes, payback is a bitch and it’s coming.
DeleteAmerica has had enough! no sovereignty for Mexico
DeleteI agree with Trump on this matter but it has to be coordinated with very secret, loyal and trusted Mexican forces that works along with US soldiers. We all know every law enforment and political levels are infiltrated with the cartels. It will be a death trap or ambush waiting to happen when American do its mission. Mexico are full with filth and evil, jusy like any narco or terrorist states.
ReplyDeleteDea is there. It won't be long before Trump agrees with sissy Amlo to get rid of these thugs. If not , in a couple of yrs the cartels will own USA. EVENTHOUGH 12 countries are accepting drugs from Mexico not only USA consumes drugs.
DeleteAMLO will not ask help, as we all know he is probably in someones dirty pocket.
ReplyDeleteHE DOESNT HAVE TO ASK.... WE WILL DO IT ANYWAYS LIKE WE HAVE DONE TI ALL OVER THE WORLD. CARTELS WON'T BE ABLE TO START THE MISSLES THAT COME THERE WAY.....WAIT AND SEE...
DeleteTHEY FUCKED UP!!!
Why the US need to ask his help. Just send in the drone when cartel convoy detected and blast them. US citizen were massacred and burnt. Not sure if asking really necessary.
ReplyDeleteLike 95% of Drone strikes kill the wrong targets its proven the U.S is trigger happy when using drones.
DeleteXolotl
Absolutely false! That is an outright lie. U.S. drones have indeed caused collateral damage but 95%? I defy you to prove it with facts.
DeleteU.S. drones are so fucking accurate they can literally fire a missile to kill your friend in the from seat of your car while leaving you the driver alive. Do some research. There’s a reason ISIS leaders like Al Baghdadi were and are in hiding. They know it too.
The cartels kill innocent people. Don't need drones
DeleteIts not gonna happen, the American government would never approve a military intervention at least not by going through Congress, it would have to go under the table. Dems. won't give Trump anything to celebrate with going into election year. ..and we all know what's going to happen here. La linea is gonna sell out a couple of their weakest memers & they're gonna be paraded in front of the press calling them the Mormon killers & this situation will eventually fade away but the real killers will remain on the streets.
ReplyDeleteI'm not so sure I mean they burned children and a baby. I think there's going to be some military activities near the border soon with US Spec Ops.
Delete8:45 US presidents have a 30 day discretion to deploy the marines without approval. JSOC answers directly to White House so they could do something. It’s pretty sad Dems would be complacent with people dying because elections are more important than people.
DeleteTotally agree that nobodies that had nothing to do with this will paraded as if Mexico is handling it. I never thought AMLO was a sellout, but this def sows doubt.
It was Gente Nueva that did it not Linea...
DeleteHow do you know it was La Línea?
DeleteLinea is nowhere near trying to capture Sonora. This is just deflection by CDS so no one thinks they did it.
DeleteSonora is hardcore Sinaloa territory and nobody can enter there specially Linea.
Lineas dnt want Sonora they just defending theirs
DeleteIn my house I know who comes in who goes out,I know which political party rules my neiborhood ,I know when there's a counterinteligence operation,sabotage,manipulation and sicological warfare ,this is a full spectrum warfare operation whit hybrid warfare elements!the 2 million dollar questions is who wins who looses,and who has the political full spectrum dominance!
DeleteKeep on killing american citizens and your worst nightmare will suddenly appear one night--Special Forces. Don't think it could happen, look what happened to Chapo Guzman.
ReplyDeleteIf USA want to help because they don't start by stopping using drugs (70 million addicts) and selling weapons to Mexican cartels. american citizens killed in mexico by USA weapons. fucking hypocrites you are responsible not mexico
Delete9:39 Yeah Americans are responsible for your people acting like complete barbarians skinning their own people alive chopping thousands of heads off each year...yeah Americans made them do it right? You are a complete moron stop posting.
DeleteThat’s why this president wants to help 939
DeleteAgreed
DeleteYou have a couple of answers to this dilemma, FLUSH them all out in a GLOBAL PUSH, all drug related narco terrorism, have a police state, burn the crops, ect. !
DeleteIf chopping off heads, skinning, extorting, preventing laws to maintain safety, seems like TERRORISM , it's because it is.. It is no different from the Middle East Mexico is as guilty as USA along with all the other countries, to not counter this UNSAFE flowering money making health emergency. This should be treated as such period
I say stay out of MEXICO and build the wall , arm yourself, and pray. When people get sick of it, they will fight back or just stay scared like they have been doing , hence murder, murder, murder and more killings
And for the record quit fu cking Americans, we don't consider innocent life to have any more worth than other innocent natives... We all want to live in peace period
Can Mexico solve this problem all by itself? Mexico will not allow anyone to help. Only if pride could lower the murder rate.
ReplyDelete*this will not count against Mexico as “mass shooting”
Thanks Chivis!
Mica
Sorry but this is the 21st Century and Mexicans are far more progressive these days. It's time to move on and accept help. EVERYONE HAS FAMILY IN AND OUT OF THE US AND MEXICO TODAY.
DeleteAnother one that will go in the history books of Mexico. Obrador quoted "the intervention of a foreign government is not necessary to deal with these cases". I am astounded, speechless all the while Mexico suffers with rampant homicides, kidnapping, extortions, rapes and no help is needed to deal with these cases.
ReplyDeleteMexico-Observer
I hate Trump but I WOULD TAKE THE HELP TO KILL THEM DAMNED CARTELS.
ReplyDeleteIf USA want to help because they don't start by stopping using drugs (70 million addicts) and selling weapons to Mexican cartels.
DeleteBefore starting another conflict USA needs to finish what was started in Afghanistan, where the Taliban is stronger than it was 10+ years ago.. what happened?? Why are the poppy plantations larger than they were 10 years ago?
DeleteTens of thousands of cartel members have died since the Calderone administration, and hundreds more die every week. A military intervention is not the answer to Mexico's problems.
ReplyDeleteAn American military intervention is different.
DeleteWell let's do process of elimination - here's what won't work:
Delete1) trying to cut the head off the snake (see prior two administrations)
2) returning .50 cal machine gun fire with automatic hugs (AMLO)
...do tell - what is the answer? Please hurry, bodies are piling up - and most of them are Mexican - their lives matter just as much as any other person.
Pride comes before fall.
9:29 Part of the tragedy is that there is no easy answer. Mexico's cycle of violence is due to a lot of institutional and social problems, and tackling those problems is something that'd take years. I've even seen some experts argue that any president would only be able to do so much in a six-year term.
DeleteDeflect, deflect. Us Mexicans have become experts at passing the buck and not owning up to our own self inflicted wounds.
Delete7:42 yeah. Just like Americans not owning up to their own addiction and blaming drug dealers for that.
Delete6:23 - LOL your comment in reply to the comment at 7:42 only serves to validate how accurate his comment is lol. Nice work. Mexico needs to focus on Mexico - does nothing to complain about shit you can’t control like worldwide (not just U.S.) demand for drugs. Also - you do realize that these cartels aren’t just peddling drugs right?
DeleteWhy ask just seek and destroy,whoever it was tjat did this i can assure they did it in secret to heat up the plaza the tactics that they used will come to bite them in the ass
ReplyDeleteMexican president is a joke, everybody knows if they start to send hit squads of navy seals all over mexico they will take out a lot of big fish, mexican politicians don't want this because it will take all that dirty money off their tables
ReplyDeleteIf the US interferes Mexican-American gangs and their other gang alliances will start targeting law enforcement, federal agents and their families. You should quit posting stupid shit and stop watching Rambo and Clint Eastwood 🎥 movies.
DeleteIf USA want to help because they don't start by stopping using drugs (70 million addicts) and selling weapons to Mexican cartels. american citizens killed in mexico by USA weapons. fucking hypocrites you are responsible not mexico
Delete9:41 AM - "If the US interferes Mexican-American gangs and their other gang alliances will start targeting law enforcement, federal agents and their families."
Delete...do you mean kinda like they are doing right now? Or do you mean like they already have been doing and are currently doing more now than ever before under the current administration?
9:43 AM - LOL the U.S. is responsible for this? With that type of rationale it's no wonder Mexico is a failed state. It's everybody else's fault. No - it's your nation's fault. Your nation is the one that produces the drugs - your nation is the one who's government is so rancid with corruption that it is literally incapable of acting against the cartels in any meaningful manner, and your nation is the one that is so desperate for some type of change that you all elected a far left-wing socialist who promised to combat the cartel problem with hugs not bullets and you all elected him because it was a new idea and it sure sounded better than the old methods which bore no fruit. Every nation on earth has drug addicts - so please, spare me. The reason your nation's cartels are sending the majority of those drugs to the U.S. isn't because we're the only ones using drugs - it's because it's logistically easier (bordering nation), and as a country with a huge economy it's a no-brainer business decision. Also, your nation's cartels ship drugs to other nations on other continents - but of course, according to you, those nations bare no responsibility. Don't worry - everything is fine. Mexico is fine. Everything is good. Good night. Sweet dreams.
DeleteHaha Mexican president is a joke how about the president the US has right now lmao
Delete9:41 seems like you been watching too many movies. Send the martyrs in for police brutality and racism not some crap going on in Mexico
Delete10:10.
DeleteThen who is at fault for Americans addiction to Heroin and Meth among other drugs?
You would be a hypocryte if you blame the cartels by your reasoning.
Looks like the Snake (Cartels) in you flag now has the Eagle (Goverment) in it's coils. That eagle is dead. Swallow your pride ask for help!
Delete“Haha Mexican president is a joke how about the president the US has right now lmao”
Delete- Do you mean the one that has the U.S. economy stronger than ever? The one that has lowered Latino and Black unemployment to record lows? That one? What’s his name again? Oh, Donald Trump - yeah, well if that’s your idea of a joke I’ll take 7 Days out of the week and twice on Sunday. Thank God we don’t have someone like AMLO.
Mexico - get a grip - crying about U.S. drug consumption and U.S. guns - I’ve got news for you - Neither are EVER going to go away - so you may want to start thinking about a different solution to address the violence down there. Why don’t you start with corruption. Sprinkle in an empowered military and you may be able to bake a cake that looks edible.
9:43 Is a typical braindead leftist blaming everyone under the sun except for the people committing all the crimes. What a fool he is, he keeps spamming the same bs trying his best to deflect responsibility from the actual culprits.
DeleteCartels steal fuel so is the USA supposed to take the blame for that as well??
Delete9:41
DeleteYeah sure, the mexican american gangs could easily contend with american forcella on american soil.... are you insane?
The Cartels are not allmighty, they couldn’t do shit if America wants them gone, let alone mexican american gangs.
Tel the cartels to start bullying american citizens on american soil and see what happens. Armed citizens and special forces would hunt them down like the dogs they are.
“possibility that help can be obtained in the case it is needed” - how many need to die before help is needed?
ReplyDeleteMore than 30,000.
DeleteMEXICO top's the highest homicides in the world.
MEXICO top's the highest curuption in the world.
Witness lived to tell the incident. They should have a news conference, put AlMO on the spot, and see what his speech writers will convey, on who did it and what will he do?
DeleteThey were US citizens murdered and burned. This alone has opened up, special conditions, to have that area, under terrorist Accord watch. This will also show how if any he does, take action in catching those responsible, or will they round up a few innocent men and frame them for the crime.
ReplyDeleteCDS sure loves to kill innocent families
ReplyDeleteThe irony, the hypocrisy....
ReplyDeleteI BET YOU ANYTHING THIS FAMILY got killed by the SAME guns sent to Mexico by ERIC HOLDER (fast and furious)
The U.S will soon go to Mexico and turn it to on other Afghanistan
Mexican goverment dont want help, this is a cash cow for those corrupted officials
ReplyDeleteMexico is too proud and corrupt to accept “real” help from the United States.
ReplyDeleteWhat corrupt politician would want the Narco Money gravy train to stop?
Thank you AMLO, for providing Trump another opportunity to make you and Mexico look like fools to the entire world.
Queso
maybe if the US did something in regards to the demand for drugs and supplying arms, it wouldnt be necessary even proposing such intervention. guess its easier to rage war on foreign land than to correct it's own
ReplyDelete@ 9:43 Exactly. The USA is the cause of this tragedy. Put down the pipe fellow Americans! Heads roll for every rail of poison you suck up your nose. I have very liberal views on drugs and most things, but our consumption is the issue.
ReplyDeleteMexico's problems aren't because of drug consumption. It was corruption that let things get as bad as they did, and it's a lack of political will that prevents things from getting better. Lots of the violence in Mexico these days is because of domestic rackets, not international drug trafficking. For example, many of the homicides in Tijuana and Juarez are connected to the domestic meth trade.
DeleteAlso quit eating mexican avocados. Apparently, the high prices lately are because of (cough cough) security or in other words paying the quota. Eating colitas de pavo with an avocado, like smoking a joint, puts money in the hands of bad bad people. Put down those avocados peoples. Your demand is the only problem here. The supply just cant help themselves because they are inherently bad.
Delete13:31 avocados will sell regardless and they are not illegal
DeleteRead the news lately? Cartel control the 🥑 trade
DeleteToo bad nobody wants California avocados
DeleteSo plan "Merida" is not intervening? or its only ok to give mexico money but not actual help that can be measured more accurately. For once I kind of agree with trump, and AMLO just made it sound like "send more money,"
ReplyDeleteThose who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
ReplyDeleteThe only solution is to threaten economic sanctions. Drug trafficking will never end unless all drugs are legalized but it will help them control everything.
Economic sanctions will only affect the Poor in Mexico and not the rich you moron.
DeleteIt’s called unintended consequences.
Queso
amlo tiene nuestro apoyo. primero que empieze a cazar en su casa a los narcos de cuello blanco. pare el trafico de armas ayude a sus ciudadanos que usan droga y ya despues veremos.
ReplyDeleteBtw the LeBaron family ran a Mormon mafia in Chihuahua
ReplyDeleteI love it when inexperienced people come in here, and say wierd stuff. A family got murdered minding thier own business, and here comes Joe with hood rat comment.
DeleteCommon Cartel time to man up, USA is going to investigate this one. Cartel where's the narco manta? You guys now need to hide out in the caves like Mencho.
Delete10:54 you need to do some research, a Norman family doesn't get blown up like that pendejo
DeleteThis is a big eff up. But cartel operations are often sloppy.
ReplyDeleteMexico's government is incompetent, inept and essentially powerless. This is no astonishing reveal. Everyone knows this.
The cartel has infiltrated every arm of the federal and state governments as it is, and is now running the show. Even AMLO knows who is really in power, as he carefully crafts his words.
The drug cartels want to do business. They don't really want to wage wars with foreign military forces, or hired mercenaries from Russia, Romania, Serbia and the US taking private cash payments for cartel scalps. And they definitely don't want American Special Forces and Marines doing covert ops at night, and pushing their shit in every weekend.
They are not cut out for that kind of crap long term. Yes, their ranks are deep, and they are armed to the teeth and have a lot of local support.
But they are mobsters, a.k.a. sloppy police forces and military rejects protecting criminal organizations and their operations.
They effed up big time here and they know it. Now they are going to want to cool it for a long while and hope to God that Daddy calms the f#$k down and doesn't pull the car over.
They're not going to cool anything, they'll just hand over a few low ranking members & everything will go back to the way it was.
DeleteThis cowardly cartel is not claiming they did it, but ALMO government can do a cover up, by grabbing some burachos and they are framed.
DeleteThe Sinaloa governor is from PRI and the Chihuahua governor is from PAN. They should be protecting their states and requesting federal backup if needed. The president can’t be patrolling every street of the country. There are a lot of traitors who cannot accept the new government and are trying to destroy the country just to bring AMLO down and keep stealing and selling all the resources for cheap.
ReplyDeleteIt's not about "patrolling every street in the country", it's that AMLO doesn't have a good security plan and some of his policies are counterproductive. Mexico's problems aren't easy to solve, but it's foolish to think that he's doing the best job possible.
Delete12:06 - YES!! Agree - no easy answer, but to your point, that doesn’t mean don’t even bother with making a plan.
Delete10:52 AM, AMLO was elected because the other parties were not successful. However, he is a typical Socialist who's plan is to bury your head in the sand and hope things get better. However, he is such a fool that his handlers could take Mexico down like the drain like Chavez did with Venezuela.
DeleteGood idea tRUMP. Send Americans to the front lines. It's their turn be slaughtered. Until now we only saw Mexicans die while the "advisors" sit out on the sidelines. Show them how much backbone your truly have.
ReplyDeleteAmericans kills americans everyday in the usa. Mostly white americans.
Delete10:52, you are an idiot and 3:38 you are a racist!
DeleteObrador has no BALLS!!!
ReplyDeleteI believe these people are connected to Mitt Romney and moved down there when they made intestinal marriage illegal in the US . If I'm being honest I dont think this attack was from the cartels ..
ReplyDeleteThe reason why the American public is so quick to cry war at any chance they get is for 2 reasons,
ReplyDelete1: Americans have never seen ground combat on a daily basis for weeks on end on american soil.
2: Mainstream media does a great job at hiding the bloody truth from the American public as to what really happens in destabalized war ridden countries where the U.S has "intervened"
The U.S government is responsible for the deaths of more innocent men women and children then all the cartels in the world combined. Why do you think people like Christopher Assange, Edward Snowden and Bradley Manning are persecuted and painted as traitors by the mainstream media.
U.S intervention means a lot of innocent lives will die in the process of combating drug cartels. As soon as innocent people start to die you will see victims families take up arms to fight off the U.S help... the media will label these people as insurgents to cover up all of the collateral damage and blowback and the U.S public will eat it up.
Good point
Delete11:10 AM Things will escalate farther then that they will get a war in the US. Mexicans will get the worst part in the states where they are the minority. The people calling for this will slowly spiral out of control.
DeleteYeah, like there's no demand for drugs in Mexico, lol.
ReplyDeleteAre you on drugs.
ReplyDeleteLamento decir que la vida de un mexicano inocente vale tanto como la vida de cualquier otra persona que sea inocente. Los racistas dicen que la vida de sus compatriotas vale más. Esta es una declaración tan racista como es posible. Los mexicanos inocentes han estado muriendo y no parece importante. Se me leen opiniones de personas con mucho aire caliente pero sin solución. Si piensan que tienen las respuestas, que vengan y traten de cambiar las cosas. Con la boca y con las manos. El dinero corrompe y México es un país pobre. AMLO cree que, como lo hizo Mahatma Gandhi, esa amabilidad dominará la violencia. Enviar soldados gringos provocará el resentimiento de inocentes mexicanos. ¡No seas estúpido! El ejército mexicano no eliminó a los delincuentes porque no conocía a las personas o los lugares que estaban buscando. ¿Y se supone que los soldados de la EUA lo hagan mejor? Esta es la razón por la cual los grupos de autoprotección honestos originales como los encabezados por el Dr. Miriles lo hicieron tan bien aquí. Nos preguntaron en nuestra pueblocita si sabíamos de hogares o personas nuevas que actuaran sobre el macho. Luego fueron a esas casas y trataron con pandilleros. AMLO está claramente equivocado con su estrategia. Está arriesgando la ira de un maníaco en Washington que cortará miles de millones de dólares en ayuda y tal vez promulgue nuevas sanciones comerciales. Y para los ciudadanos de EUA, es usted quien no puede hacer nada para detener miles de millones de dólares en ayuda a los monstruos aquí abajo y detener el flujo de armas. Eres tan impotente como nosotros inocentes. Detente y piensa en esto.
ReplyDeleteCorrecto
DeleteNot going to happen. The cartel operations are scattered all over Mexico, from the remotest mountains to the street corners of Juarez. A military solution would require an invasion on a scale not seen since WW II, against an enemy totally dispersed among, and indistinguishable from, the general populace. It would be Vietnam multiplied times 1,000.
ReplyDeleteYou're absolutely correct.
DeleteThat's the truth. Many people in US are so detached from the drug war in Mexico & the daily occurrences, all of a sudden when an incident like this happens everyone turns into an expert & they're all gung ho about taking up arms & confronting these organizations. Nothing is ever that straight forward especially when it comes to narcotics.
Delete1:23 The cartels are everyone's problem.
DeleteThat, and there's only so much a government can do to address drug addiction. Even though you could argue that the government could have better policies in place, drug use is still an individual choice. It's like telling Mexicans "Stop enabling corruption". It's not that simple.
ReplyDeletei wish mexico could detach itself from the mainland and just float away to never bother anyone again
ReplyDelete12:07 lots of people wish the same for the USA bud u best believe it...
Delete@12:19 Yea sure, that why everyone is trying to sneak their ass in the US hah?
Delete1207 doubt that. They swim rivers and cross deserts to follow their dreams. And build tunnels...
DeleteMexico govt is and has been complicit in the DRUG business they will never seriously interfere with the cash flow. All they have ever done is all show no go then business as usual. This has been going on for the last 60 years with no end in sight, AMALO is a Communist/Socialist populist who again is all show no go. Sanctions and zero tolerance Bludgeon Mexico into SUBMISSION,force them to PERFORM they are capable of responsible conduct.
ReplyDeleteDrug peddling goes on here in the USA every day BUT we do not have the drug sellers running the country MEXICO DOES.
ReplyDeleteLet's see if that bitch ass AMLO has a spine, and reaches for a hand. It could all be handled in a short amount of time. This may be the new Kiki Camerana type story that puts the US in action.
ReplyDeleteEverywhere in México people are consuming drugs too
ReplyDeleteAsk Trump who had the American Journalist killed in Saudi Arabia?? He didn’t care at all because of the Saudi Arabia money!
ReplyDeleteOh Boy..... he was not an American that is why the embassy could call him back on pretense of a visa issue. He was a foreigner working in the US. A green card holder.
DeleteThe crime nor the victim had anything to do with US
A better focus in Mexicans journalists the most murdered in the world
100% - and excellent point - shit is so bad in Mexico they'll kill your ass for even trying to tell others about it. Let that sink in. Mexico has so much to offer and again, that fact makes the current predicament all the more frustrating and heartbreaking.
Delete@1:03...that journalist, who was killed for political reasons, doesn't compare to the deaths of 3 women and 6 children killed for no reason..u liberal pc of shit!!!
DeleteIsnt el jaguar dead tho? Why Would it be how group
ReplyDeleteMennonites attack ejidatarios with bullets, fight water wells
ReplyDeleteJuarez City, Chih. Around 500 ejidatarios of the peasant organization El Barzón were shot to death by members of the Mennonite community, when they tried to destroy illegal wells to extract water at La Mojina ranch, owned by the LeBaron family in the municipality of Buenaventura in the northwestern area of the Chihuahua state.
During the fray two peasants were injured with a firearm, while the laborers stoned the wells and four vans parked at the ranch.
link please.. dame el enlace paisano.. fuentes?? y por ultimo.. tratas de decir que los asesinaron los "ejidatarios"??
DeleteMenonites are not Mormon and please show links to back up your claim.
DeleteThe Mexican press often misidentifies the Chihuahua-Sonora Mormon communities as Mennonites. Probably has something to do with the lack of both Mennonites and Mormons in Mexico, so the press just doesn’t understand that they are two totally different religious groups. Mennonites are Christians, Mormons are not (at least considering their cosmology and Christological views).
DeleteAlex LeBaron, who is a member of the family and was a deputy in Chihuahua, answered Trump bluntly: “Do you want to help? Focus on reducing drug use in the US Do you want to help a little more? Prevent the ATF and the Weapons Law from systematically injecting high-powered weapons into Mexico ... Please help. ”
ReplyDeleteOk Mr CIA LOL
DeleteThose aren't the sole solutions like some people claim, but he's not wrong.
DeleteFake news that was not said.Blaming USA for this masacure lol. Lowlifes did this Carnage.
DeleteAMLO won´t do shit. He´s on the cartel´s payroll, that´s why Ovidio was released. AMLO previously said he would not kill sicario scum because they were human too. AMLO is comandante SIN BOLAS.
ReplyDeleteTeCocho,
DeleteWhere do yu come up with the nonsense that you are barking out. AMLO has done nothing for los ciudadanos except run his mouth. All crime has gotten worse under his brief tenure. Hopefully, the people will throw him out before complete chaos prevails.
GREAT JOB AMLO
ReplyDeleteAMLO is PRI scum, best president? BS.
Delete@2:10
DeleteHow so moron?
War on UBER?
Incompetency?
Giving a few extra pesos to the elderly?
Your clown AMLO won’t finish his term.
Queso
PRI? is that a serious statement?
DeleteNO SE HAGA LOS CIEGOS FUERON LOS ANTIGUOS GOBIERNOS QUE POR AMBICION DEJARON QUE LA DELINCUENSIA SE FORTALECIERA Y SE ARMARAN MEJOR QUE LA POLICIA MEXICANA ES AHORA CUANDO SE VEN LAS CONSECUENCIAS DE LA CORUPCION Y LOS INOCENTES ESTAN PAGANDO LAS CONSECUENCIAS DE QUE MIERDA HABLAN SI DEJARON QUE HASTA LOS NIÑOS VENDIERAN DROGAS Y AHORA LES LLAMAN DELINCUENTES NO CULPEN A LO DISTRAIDO MAS BIEN A LA CORRUPCION Y AMBICION DE ALGUNOS
DeleteAHORA SI KIEREN ANDAR RECLAMANDO TODO.
ONDE ESTABAN SUS YORADERAS EN Y RECLAMOS ASIA EL PRI Y PAN EN AQUELLOS TIEMPOS?
#quesopendejo
TeCocho AKA @6:53
Delete150,992 Million tragic deaths?
That exceeds the number of people in Mexico you Baboon!!!
Get off the pipe, and F O C U S, AMLO lover 😂
Queso
Or like tryna whipe out Americas racist embedded history.
ReplyDelete@11:16 oh stop, cartels will find another way to pursue some type of criminal activity!
ReplyDeleteI like the one that said it was a "blood feud" as a Mormon there is no such thing as a "blood feud" with the LeBaron's. There was no big scheme to kill them by any government in order to go after any cartel. If you do your research there was a previous murder of one of the Lebaron's and a brother in law. They paid for there security offered by the Mexican government after that. When AMLO ordered the security out of there that's when this happened. The LeBaron's are known for there generosity and kindness.
ReplyDeleteThey are in the MORMON MAFIA, everyone knows that.. It's not the first people killed by organized crime because of their ties.. There has been many more, they don't just sell 🧀 lol
DeleteAn intelligence expert once said"if you want to know who's behind something,look for the person who has the authority to withdraw security".
DeleteFor the us soldiers to kill innocent Mexicans no thank you we all know there dirty like that
ReplyDeleteThat comment is so Mexico lol - thank you for that.
Deletese llama daño colateral, tambien la sedena y los marinas lo hacen. it is called collateral damage, it happens everywhere..
Deleteseeing that mexican authorities are incapable of doing their job,( and they will not step down ) any help is welcomed.
att a real mejicano
I agree with 2:11. Narcos are doing a fine job of keeping people safe and running the country
Delete211 your the man of the month, I agree with you, no us intervention is needed, after all the cartels don't kill people, they come to clean plazas with brooms and trash bags, they offer toys to kids, how dare us us come to help. 211 we need you to run for president.
Delete8:13 - OMG OMG jajajajajajajajajajajaja - I nearly fell out of my chair laughing
Delete10:51,2:11 I too am laughing at the people's way of thinking. Helped is offered, but they turn it down, when they are hurting for help.
DeleteLuna Apagtha
This falls on the president for allowing Ovidio to remain free after he was captured. AMLO is a disgusting human being .
ReplyDeleteEdgar Alvarado I offer you poems, how about 2 poems. Hugs and kisses will come next.
DeleteIt sure does, proves that the rule of law does not exist in mexico and criminals are free to do what they want
DeleteThe main cash cow for Mexican CARTELS are American market, don't act dumb 😆
ReplyDeleteThat's the main reason they started
Horrible Occurrence...
ReplyDeleteJust how the Mexican drug traffickers are extradited to the US,The American gun runners should have the safe fate! Get extradited to spend the rest of their lives in a Mexican prison. Mexican drugs kill Americans, American guns kill Mexicans. But in this case they killed their own.. Innocent victims. HDTinLA
I get what you’re saying and agree with it in principle, but in practice do you really want someone that can get guns sent to a Mexican prison where officials are easily corrupted?
DeleteA message to these attackers, your cartels do not terrify us, they empower us. They empower us to send you cartels something that is truly terrifying... the full weight of the United States military! - A United States Citizen
ReplyDelete3:47 u sound like a patriot so why haven't u done anything to stop mass shootings??
Deleteyour military has bullied many poor unprepared countries such as vietnam (where they got their asses kicked) iraq (where could never control the situation in full) afganistan (where never managed to wipe out the taliban and gave raise to isis) pussed out with north korea not to mention russia, mexico is neither of these countries and with number 1 most efficient military in urban combat (do your research) allied with the most powerful cartels in the world you'll have the pUSA-i military running in circles in no time
DeleteHaha, #1 urban combat military. Your an idiot. They got there asses handed to them in culiacan. Hahaha your funny
DeletePlease learn to spell before calling an idiot, thanks.
DeleteHow they get their ass handed to them?
DeleteThe mission was a failed one from the get-go.
@744 I totally agree with you.
Look what happened when Colombia received US help to fight narcos.
You are smoking that Mocha again! Mexico, has a military, yea right! Al best, they might be able to overtake Guatemala after a long battle!
DeleteThen tell the americans to stop selling guns to the cartels
ReplyDeleteentonces cual es la funcion de la "federacion" rascarse sus panzotas llenas de $$? mientras los "estados" arden por chapos,?? la culpa es de todos, tanto de la ciudadania que no educa bien a sus hijos,. como de la federacion/estado donde en la escuela no esneñan valores de nada.. a si solo te enseñan a saludar a la bandera y a escribir para qUE EN un futuro seas grafitero.
ReplyDeleteUPDATE: Here in the U.S. this story is all over the nightly news programs..Def not a good look. I will bet anyone on this site that there is a 100% chance that there will be some response - not saying it will be the U.S. - maybe just a matter of creating enough pressure to make the corrupt do-nothing Mexican politicians get off their ass and do something but I guarantee that there will be a something done.
ReplyDeleteHaving said that - what’s wrong with this picture? From an outsider’s perspective, I’ll tell you - it shouldn’t take pressure from the U.S. over the lives of American citizens for something to be done. How many hundreds of thousands of Mexican citizens have suffered the same fate? Aren’t their lives just as valuable? Of course they are. But yet the corrupt Mexican politicians do nothing for them. Playo > Plato. Think a good step one would be getting a real president with two testicles - even if he has to borrow a pair from a squirrel. Also would be great to see an empowered military allowed to do what they do best. No idea how to deal with the corruption down there other than legal reforms that make the penalty of corruption not worth the risk.
It reminds me of how Kiki Enrique's death caused the government to really go after the major traffickers of the time. I hate that it takes a major tragedy to spur officials to action, and I hate that it seems to take so much foreign pressure for the Mexican government to go after the people burning the country to the ground.
Deletevery well stated...for years I wondered how cut up bodies and heads in a Catholic country bordering the USA wasn't all over our news. I think this time the general public will start to see what crap really goes on there and why we need to prevent and protect ourselves here. I agree Mexico being in the spot light will put pressure on the overly proud AMLO. BTW, he mentions how putting Chapo away for life is inhumane...how's this for inhumane
DeleteIt's unfortunate that it had to come to this. The innocent lives of these people had to be taken away, for the spotlight to shine at full blast. The ruthlessness and blood thirst of the cartels in Mexico is front and center all over the world. The Mexican government right now is spinning their wheels, trying to find a way to quiet this shit storm.
Delete@645 amlo never said locking chapo up was inhumane dont spread more bs bro
Delete9:55 watch a year from the day this masacure happened, he will launch an investigation. Just like the 43 students got killed, he sets a panel to investigate on something that happened years ago. Dumb thinking.
Delete11:27 Mexican money from drugs cannot compare to the tremendous amount of money Americans spend on these.
ReplyDelete1:38 nothing leaves as much profit as drugs.
FUCK all these Americans thinking that they can do whatever they want in Mexico...a good example was set too bad innocent lifes were taken(kids)..
ReplyDeleteA good example was shown that the cartels run Mexico. AMLO is nothing but a cuck offering hugs. It will take many years to get rid of the apathy and self loathing from Mexicans. We are our own worst enemies.
Delete9:45 am. Is funny how you criticize Mexico about crime and cartels running the country, but you forget that the same cartels bring those drugs to the US and money and weapons back to Mexico. The most powerful country in the world can not stop Mexican cartels from selling those drugs at will. Amazing.
DeleteY alos governadores de estado que se venden al mejor postor Ellos no tienen culpa?
ReplyDeleteNomas la de AMLO les cabe.
There are a lot of AMLO nuthuggers spreading rumors about the Lebarons being criminals, the nuthuggers just want to ease some of the burden on AMLO´s government for the failed "drug strategy", fuck hugs, give criminals every bullet on the magazine, a good sicario is a dead sicario.
ReplyDeleteThe cartels can get guns from anywhere, and probably manufacture their own. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. The only to blame for all of this, is the corruption of those in power in Mexico, period. Take out the cartels, and restore citizens freedoms. I have said all along, this will only happen with an intervention from a 3rd party, and would probably be very ugly. Stay away from Mexico is the only surefire advice for now.
ReplyDelete11:16 Replace the word consumption with the word prohibition and you’ll finally start getting somewhere.
ReplyDeleteWho would have ever expected Trump to stand up for Mexicans before AMLO would. What a world
ReplyDeleteWhat AMLO meant to say was if no cartels he dont get his bribe $$$. Feel bad for good hardworking citizens in Mexico.
ReplyDeleteDue to US citizens being killed in a sadistic manner, the whole world is watching how Obrador handles this one. Help was offered quickly by the USA but he rejected it. This is showing all of us that he wants rampant crime to continue. So much has happened in his 11 months and very minimal is being corrected...seems that somehow the cartel bribes are better, than it's citizens that are being killed everyday.
ReplyDeleteMexico-Observer
I totally agree with you that country is a Quagmire, problems will always be there.
DeleteThe best thing the United States should do is launch an investigation on this side of the border to see what cartel operates where the people got killed in Mexico and arrest as many as they can.
ReplyDeleteYour message is convoluted...are you blaming the president? Or perhaps the hard working citizens of Mexico? I did not know they voted that quick.
ReplyDeleteMexico is out of control let the US go in and clean house!! Unfortunately the Mexican Government can't handle this situation anymore.
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