We talked to the man who gave up information leading to the capture of Mexico's most-wanted drug lord, and who felt betrayed by the US.
On May 1st 2014, this interesting
article ran in VICE. This relates to my M10 post of yesterday, you can read that post by using this hyperlink.
In mid-April I received a call
out of El Paso, Texas, from a doctor who urgently wished to speak with me as a
journalist. “I am the person who handed over El Chapo Guzmán,” the voice on the
line said.
After hearing the man’s hook, he
had my full attention. To protect the doctor’s identity, I will refer to him as
Scalpel. He contacted me to explain that even though he had been welcomed by
federal US authorities as a confidential informant — for having revealed
information that lead to the capture of drug lord Joaquín Guzmán Loera, alias
El Chapo, and his lieutenant — his wife was now about to be deported to Mexico.
Since the Mexican authorities
arrested El Chapo on February 22, I have received calls, messages, and emails
from people who have helped me understand some of the motives and processes
that led to the end of El Chapo’s empire. But Scalpel offered me a surreal
story.
“I have never belonged to or
collaborated with the cartels,” he explained, “but my sister has been married
to M-10 (Mario Núñez Meza, lieutenant of the Sinaloa Cartel in Tijuana) for the
past 13 years. This is how I started to meet them, many of the members of the
Sinaloa Cartel. They would look for me to heal their bullet wounds and I would
tend to them at the hospital. Thank God none of them ever died on me, and I
think that this is what led to me meeting El Chapo.”
His willingness to tell his whole
story in detail — to reveal his real name, documents, visas, phone numbers, and
the testimony of the lawyer in charge of his case — convinced me to meet him in
an El Paso office.
Scalpel began by revealing his
profession: he's surgeon. Prior to last August — when he signed an agreement
with the DEA as an informant — the man in front of me worked at Guernika
hospital, in Ciudad Juárez, and was known as one of best surgeons in northern
Mexico.
“The Sinaloa Cartel began to
recommend me as a good doctor,” he told me. “A few months ago, Emma Coronel, El
Chapo’s wife, contacted me on Facebook — they are very cautious of telephones
and all of that. She wanted me to go to Hermosillo [in Sonora state] to work
with the cartel full-time, offering me a monthly payment of 25,000 pesos
[$2,000]. I make that in one week, so I said no — thank you, but no.”
But Scalpel did not let it die
there. A few days later he asked for a cellphone number so that he could
contact them in case he decided to accept the offer.
“This phone number belonged to
Emma Coronel, and I knew that she was always with El Chapo,” he said. “I handed
the number over to the DEA here in El Paso on January 15, first via text
message, then I later met with them to fill out a formal report for the
exchange of information.”
Even though Scalpel did not
retain copies of the information he reported to the DEA, special agent Daniel
Muñoz confirmed to me that he had been in charge of Scalpel’s case while he was
working as an informant.
Additionally, the text messages
that the doctor showed me — as well as the documents that Carlos Spector, his
lawyer, provided — confirmed his relationship with the DEA.
“On January 15, (Scalpel)
delivered the first piece of information toward the capture of El Chapo. On
January 22 he met with the special agents in charge… and the DEA supervisor in
El Paso at the DOJ headquarters,” I read in an archived report at Spector’s
office.
Exactly a month after Scalpel
handed over Coronel’s phone number, Mexican marines captured El Chapo, who was
considered by both US and Mexican authorities to be the world’s most powerful
drug lord.
According to high-level
functionaries within the US government, as quoted by the Associated Press,
Mexican authorities traced a cellphone from February 16 onward until
successfully tracking down El Chapo at an apartment complex in Mazatlán in
Sinaloa on February 22.
Although the AP reported that
this cellphone belonged to one of his employees, the proof that Scalpel has
provided — along with declarations made by the Minister of Interior, Miguel
Angel Osorio Chong, regarding the presence of Emma Coronel during the capture —
suggest an entirely different conclusion. Scalpel’s information led the
authorities to El Chapo.
By the time Coronel’s phone
number was handed over, Scalpel had already been collaborating with the DEA for
five months.
“My sister asked me to pick up
Mayito (Núnez Meza) in Chihuahua at the end of last July and asked me to bring
him to Ciudad Juárez,” he explained. “As we were returning to Juarez, Mayito
confessed to me that he was coming to Juarez to get the whole mess going again.
He told me that he wanted to get back the territory that JL (a lieutenant of
the Juárez Cartel, who according to Mexican authorities had been in charge of
Ciudad Juárez) had taken from him. That’s when I told him, ‘I don’t want this
city to become a mess again.’ ”
According to Scalpel, this
confession, as well as Núñez Meza running him out of his own home in December
2007 so the cartel could use it as a safe house, were his reasons for turning
El Chapo over to the US authorities.
In early August 2013, Scalpel
called an anonymous DEA hotline in El Paso to offer information that could lead
to the capture of Meza Núnez. According to his version of events, which he
confirmed by showing me his stamped migration permit, the first meeting with
DEA agents took place around midnight on August 18 at the Puente Libre
facilities.
Scalpel told me that agents from
Interpol, the FBI, and the DEA attended this meeting. “I told them that Mayito
was staying at the Casa Grande Hotel,” he said. “I gave them the phone that I
was carrying, and that’s how they found them — their license plate numbers and
everything.”
Ten days later, on August 28,
Núñez Meza was arrested by Chihuahua police agents at the Casa Grande Hotel,
“thanks to information provided by a civilian and the work of intelligence
agencies,” according to a press release that was published at the time.
That same day, at around 4 PM,
Scalpel and four family members crossed into the US using migration form I-94
SPBP, which is given to people who are collaborating with US authorities on
investigations.
According to the informant, the
DEA had given them permission to cross over into Mexico once a month, and
Scalpel’s wife went to Ciudad Juárez on February 20 this year to visit family
members. But as she tried to re-enter El Paso six days later, border protection
agents detained her for attempting to enter the country without a visa.
According to US Immigration and
Customs Enforcement (ICE), Scalpel’s wife has been detained since then at a
migrant retention center, awaiting a resolution in her case. She is currently
requesting political asylum, according to the same migration center.
A DEA agent, who requested
anonymity because he’s not authorized to discuss this case on record, assured
me that his agency has paid Scalpel more than $50,000 over the past seven
months as payment for the information he shared. Still, Scalpel is unimpressed
with the treatment he has received.
“They have turned me from a
protected witness into an unpaid informer,” he said. “The money they have given
me has been for survival, but in no way is it the reward that they had offered
for information leading to the capture of El Chapo.”
The difference between a
protected witness and a confidential informant is the temporal interval
involved with the information that is turned over. According to Scalpel’s
lawyer, the former only reveals information once, and is eventually called into
court to testify against an assumed criminal. This is why protected witnesses
receive government protection, a single cash payment, and migration documents.
In the case of the latter, the
informant must offer periodic information and receives payment for each bit of
information revealed. These informants are typically members of the drug
cartels and once they stop revealing information they are withdrawn from the
program.
Scalpel said that he has learned
a very valuable lesson: federal authorities like the DEA only want to squeeze
you for information and then give you a big kick in the ass — right back into
Mexico. They care very little about you; what they do care about is catching
big fish so that they can receive their own benefits as agents.
Scalpel’s opinion might not be
too far from reality. A former DEA agent, on hearing Scalpel’s story, labeled
the informants as essentially “disposable.”
“If they’re revealing information
to you and the DEA, they’re most likely also exchanging information with the
drug traffickers,” he told me. “We cannot trust them completely, even if
they’re valuable.”
'They’re just trying to shut me
up, and that’s not going to happen.'
The number of informers and
protected witnesses operating on both sides of the border is currently unknown.
Rusty Payne, a spokesperson for the DEA in Washington, told me that he could
not share this information because it is a delicate issue.
“It’s not possible to divulge,
with any level of precision, just how many confidential informants the DEA uses
in its routine operations and I am unaware of whether there are undocumented
participants,” he said. But he added that informants “must follow very strict
rules” when they choose to cooperate with the DEA.
The agency also recognized in a
practical budgeting guide that is would be beneficial for foreign informants to
remain inside the US for the duration of the investigation, to further assist
or to act as witnesses.
Scalpel is still in El Paso with
his children, awaiting approval of his wife’s status of political asylum. The
last time I spoke with him he sounded enthusiastic about the prospect of this
happening and told us that he had applied for a work visa.
He also told us that the DEA
supervisor had somehow found out about our conversation and requested that he
no longer speak with us. But Scalpel stated, “They’re just trying to shut me
up, and that’s not going to happen.”
“I hope this serves as a lesson
for people looking to reveal information to the DEA,” the surgeon concluded.
“It’s not quite as rosy-colored as they paint it from the beginning.”
Editor's note: The personal
information given by "Scalpel" is confirmed to be factual; the
informant has given express permission for the publication of the events which
he narrated, with the exclusion of his real name — due to privacy concerns.
"Scalpel" assures us that the members of the Sinaloa Cartel, who he
has reported to the DEA, are aware of his status as a government informant, and
that the publication of said information does not represent an assumed
foreseeable risk to his person.
Now that we know who is sister was married to it shouldn’t be to hard to find him
ReplyDeleteMaybe it's part of a disinformation campaign to divert attention from the real culprit.
DeleteYou might have a good point there.
DeleteWith so much corruption it will be hard to ever know the real truth anymore.
The cartel knew who gave him up right away but i think M10 already left Sinaloa cartel by the time he was arrested.
DeleteYou do know you are putting this guy in danger if true! Its easy for the cartels to find who he is if they connect all the dots and hints you are giving here! First of and most ovbious is by saying how his sister was married to el m10 and he was a surgeon that will probably will give his identity away if someone in the cds wants him dead, specially if he is not in protective custody
ReplyDeleteYes, that's what I don't get either. Changing the name does not make much of a difference as all the other information (already, who his sister was married to) makes him 100% identifyable.
DeleteCon el tiempo este doctor aparece muerto cuando menos espere. Y todo por chiva.
ReplyDelete- Sol Prendido
y tu crees que ande vivito
DeleteVivimos en esa época donde se graban el final de los dedos. Esta de moda eso. Y más si era un dedo cercano. Ya si sigue vivo sería de pura chiripada. Todo preocupado y estresada. - Sol Prendido
DeleteThe Almighty rich Sinaloa cartel offering a surgeon 2,000 a month lmfao 😂💀😂💀😂🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂
ReplyDeleteAlso stealing homes to use as safe houses lol
DeleteAnd he makes that in a week. Wow what a bunch of cheap fucks. I could only imagine how brainwashed their sicarios have to be to work for them lmao i heard they pay the same or less then the juarez cartel and them being international smugglers. 😂 son unos pinches codos esos weyes
DeleteChapos faction of the cartel has always been seen as cheap when it comes to paying people they utilize.
DeleteAmazon pays their employees shit as well and makes them piss in cups to not waste time on bath room breaks. does that make bezos broke?
DeleteExcept in Amazon you're not in the line of fire as a sicario risking your life for $250 measly dollars a week. Always excuses with the fanatics
DeleteMeanwhile Chapos family lives like kings...thats how it is. Cjng plaza bosses look like complete bums when they are caught its all the same in every cartel. La Mera Verga ur a clown homie 🤡
DeleteHaha. Ur a tool. Amazon gives their employees insurance and they sleep well at night. These clowns kill you for pennies. If they offer a respected Dr. 2K a month, A DOCTOR! These p3ndejos are making $500 a month.My tia makes more selling tacos on the street. 🤡 🤡 🤡
Delete12:01 this is a surgeon not a low level contractor, he would be equivalent to a corporate executive which amazon pays 6 figures, benefits, ect lol cds is a joke
DeletePeople qorking for CDS are fucken morrons. Who the hell lives off of 2 thousand pesos a month? This being a doctor also by the way?
DeleteYou can't get any stupider than that!
2 000.00 and his life, a very good deal, peisos or dollahs?
Delete@106
DeleteMy tia makes more than 2k a week selling a little more than tacos de lengua
12:58 Yeah; Chapo’s family behave like CEOs in corporate America - disgusting!
DeleteDamn this is some good stuff.. 💪
ReplyDeleteA surgeon dropped the ball on Emma
DeleteNice going DEA your operations success depended on the info this guy gave y’all now he is stuck in limbo, bravo.
ReplyDeleteThe DEA are a bunch of clowns that would never pay a reward if their life depended on it. They are not loyal even to eachother. They had no chance at catching Chapo for years and years until Chapo himself slipped beyond belief the last time he was popped.
DeleteIf DEA did their job you won't need informants.
DeleteSinaloa cartel offering $2000 a month to a surgeon lol imagine what little their sicarios make, also stealing homes to use as safe houses, they’re a joke
ReplyDeleteThats what cartels do if their in a jam they probably needed something quick. Look at Pablo he was worth billions at times but was still fleecing low level guys in his own org when money got tight.
DeleteWatch out, someone will took him down
ReplyDeleteNo they won't WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU 😂 🐀 ZAMBADA VINCENTE DIDN'T DIE
DeleteThis guy would be a dead man if sent back as would be any family members, he doesn’t seem completely innocent, he only ratted because he was pissed about getting kicked out of his which is understandable.
ReplyDeleteTo protect the doctor’s identity, I will refer to him as Scalpel.
ReplyDeleteBut his sister has been married to M-10 (Mario Núñez Meza, lieutenant of the Sinaloa Cartel in Tijuana) for the past 13 years
-wow
M”
Its a 6 year old article. If he isn't dead than I don't think Chapo's kids are going to waste too much time trying to kill him. I think they have other stuff to worry about. Whats done is done.
Deletedo you know if he is alive?
DeleteIs M10s wife still alive?
DeleteChivis, I believe a lot of this 6 year old story is bunk. Chapo was being tracked years before by spyware technology, the U.S. even went as far as buying the South American technology company Chapo was using to encrypt his devices and moved it to Europe. They didn't need this so called "doctor".
DeleteFuck yeah were doing a cook out tonight to celebrate his story coming out in borderland beat even sicario 006 Is coming through with his crew
DeleteTes M10 wife si still Alice and she si un Durango
DeleteCartel no matter where u at they kill u and ur family
ReplyDeleteSe la jalaron con lo que le querían pagar al doc Jajajaja
ReplyDeleteAwesome article. Great job, guys!!!
ReplyDeleteWhat a great way to recycle a post from
ReplyDelete2014
Since when is recycling bad?
DeleteIF THAT`S TRUE, HE IS A CRAZY DEAD MAN, NARCO SATANICS CHAPOS,. CJNG, ZTAS, CDG, CDN ( ALL THE SAME "STUFF") NEVER FORGIVE, HERE ON IN HELL
ReplyDeleteDon’t you think Chapos wife is going to remember the Doctor and Ivan is going to react on it
ReplyDeleteI mean Sean Penn and De Castillo still alive!
DeleteHe will shut up once he gets paid 😂. Todo por dinero $$$ 🐀
ReplyDeleteM10 was not in the Tijuana plaza, he was Chiuas and Durango.
ReplyDeletegreat story, and there is no real one person who gave up Chapo Guzman, it was years and years of informants, surveillance, and collaborations between FBI, DEA, HSI, even NSA and CIA contributed intel and assistance.
No actually you are wrong. Years and years of nothing but "close calls" that would still be going on today most likely if it wasnt for Chapos disastrous meetings with Sean Penn and Kate C. This guy led them directly to Chapo and he was apprehended just like the two actors. The DEA and FBI got nowhere for over a decade give me a break.
Delete@12:09 years of what? they followed the Hollywood idiots from the airport directly to him and were hot on his trail after. It wasnt as sexy as you make it sound.
DeleteThis guy wants the US government to treat him like a celebrity? How about Scalpel snitched on Chapo for Mexico? Damn I'm tired of all these people with their hand out expecting the US to give them shit. Do your life without begging for $.
ReplyDeleteThe US was offering a 5 million reward for el Chapo.
DeleteThey are promising the money for intel, you deliver intel and you should get the money.
DeleteAnything else is communism!
Wait, what? Who you trying to protect his identity but you have his face on front? Huh huh???
ReplyDeleteThats not him, thats M10
DeleteThe man that's pictured is "M10", "El Mayito o Mingo" Mario Nuñez Meza. The Doctor is his brother in law/cuñado
DeleteI thought Meza was the head of Juarez plaza for CDS not Tijuana..is that a typo or was he boss of TJ at one point also? Also didnt he eventually go against Chapo and was swiftly apprehended not long after that?
ReplyDeleteCorrect, first he was warring in Juarez for CDS as "Los M" and when he lost CDS support in Durango against "Los Cabrera" he along with brother Amado "El Flaco", still a fugitive, switched back to CDJ.
DeleteLos emes m10 people were causing to much desmadre in durango. They started to kidnap people for ransom, a big no no for the Sinaloa Cartel, so the cartel paid los Cabrera from vascogil dgo to take em out of the plaza which they succeeded. To this day durango belongs to los Cabrera.
DeleteHe was boss in Durango not Chihuahua.
Delete# Scalpel snitched !
ReplyDeleteThat's a dud
DeleteThis Doc better hide under a rock or something 🤦♂️😂
ReplyDeleteThey kicked him out of his own home so they could "use it as a safehouse" would make any real man fk them all damn the consequences.
ReplyDeleteI'd turn in Chapo myself if he paid me two thousand pesos a month.
ReplyDeleteWhat fuckin desperate asses anybody that works for this cartel must be?
ICE did the same thing with Johnny Sutton overseeing, got info from they’re informants and allowed people to get killed in where???....... Juarez!!! They had all the LTs from Sinaloa in El Paso crossing freely giving info with there govt issued visas
ReplyDeleteSean Penn got paid by the DEA
ReplyDeleteCDS is so ghetto. No wonder Medellin and Cali look down on them. No honour because most of their people snitch porque no hay dinero.
ReplyDeleteDona Chivis where can I buy that fresh Chapo Sean Penn dress shirt? I have a wedding to go to soon.
Medellin and Cali are extinct and or dead there guy, more like CDS looking down on them now 🤣 🤣 how long has the bosses of CDS been around compared to Pablo and the Rodriguez bro's or Ochoas or Pacho. Foh 5:59pm
DeleteIt is 2020! Why don't you care about your readers and contributors? Let all cops and narcos know exactly who is posting and reading what because you can't encrypt it! Love your very informative articles otherwise. You are an asset to the community but whose side are you really on? Reporters are suppose to protect their sources. Soon to be publish on Vice Motherboard about how you are a possible Honeypot.
ReplyDelete6:17 you are sure an anonymous asshole, felicia, Baaay!!!
DeleteHis brother “el M11” is still in charge of los M’s in Durango .
ReplyDeleteA surgeon doesn't make more than $2000 a week in Mexico. If he's lucky, maybe 20,000 pesos or less a month. He is full of shit.
ReplyDeletethere are two systems. in the private system which is world class and the best of the best doctors, they are paid 4 or 5 times more than public system IMSS etc.
DeleteChivis I don't buy the details of this story from 2014. If the doctor really made that much then the part of where Emma Coronel Trying to bribe him would've been more than enough to arrest her when she entered the country again and multiple times since chapos arrest on participating in a criminal enterprise and went hard at her like they did other CDS members if he really was a CI. This story has been proven to be false as well by other news organizations
DeleteSicario 006 is even in the given credit for throwing he’s few cents. Maybe he got the 20 million 💲
ReplyDeleteSinaloa lowballs good doctors. $2k a month? What a joke. That wouldn't get you a doctor's front desk receptionist in the USA.
ReplyDeleteCartels need to come in with $400k US a year and you get a competent surgeon and nurse on call 24/7 with a clean facility.
Unimpressive cheapskates are these Sinaloans.
Mencho pays that and he also makes hospitals! He aint cheap like cds, thats why so many sicarios have switched sides
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