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The Guanajuato Attorney General's Office announced they were pursuing charges against 71 detained cartel members from some of the prominent cartel groups in the state like the Cartel Jalisco Nuevo Generacion and the Cartel Santa Rosa de Lima.
Warning: Some graphic images below this point.
The Announcement
On November 15, 2022, in a press release and press conference, the Guanajuato Attorney General’s Office (FGE) announced they had recently coordinated 20 simultaneous police raids to capture cartel members in the state. They also reviewed some of the 71 alleged cartel members who they have charged with crimes in recent months.
It appears the 71 detainees were not all captured during the aforementioned simultaneous raids but were actually captured over the course of 108 different search warrants.
The announcement focused on giving details about cartel members who were believed to have participated in the narco-blockades which killed three, including a tourist, last week, as covered by SocalJ here.
They also focused on detainees who are believed to be involved in the deadly Pantano bar shooting, covered by Huaso in this previous story. (Not to be confused with the more recent shooting at Lexuz Bar in Apaseo el Alto, covered by SoCalJ.)
Arturo "N", classified as a "generator of violence", was also arrested in Celaya. He was described as a "generator of violence" with no other details given so it's difficult to tell which group he belonged to.
Alejandro "N", alias "El Guipis", was arrested and charged for his probable involvement in the May 2022 shooting at Gala bar in the city of Celaya.
Multiple narco messages were left in the area after the attack. These messages were signed by the CSRL, in which they claimed responsibility for the attack. This makes El Guipis a likely member of the CSRL.
Sources: FGE Press Conference, FGE Twitter Statement, FGE Official Video, Aristegui Noticias, La Silla Rota, Paudal, Periodico Correo, Noventa Grados, Excelsior, El Sol de Irapuato, Aristegui Noticias
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ReplyDeleteYou will never see so many arrest of Cartel Members in states like Sonora, Sinaloa or Chihuahua. In those states corruption is rampant and police are cowards that bow down to those toy-soldies or sicarios.
ReplyDeleteCheck this out Hearst https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep-crenshaw-bill-ramp-federal-penalties-mexican-cartels-crack-down-finances.amp
ReplyDeleteIt's an interesting bill that seems to be attempting to make an actual change, unlike Abbott's declaration of cartels as terrorists.
DeleteI'm particularly intrigued by this aspect of the bill, which "would make cartel members and their family inadmissible to the U.S. and allow for the revocation of naturalized citizenship and green cards for those convicted of such activity."
There is an obscene amount of family members of top cartel leaders who live just across the border in the US.
CDG guys have their family live in Brownsville and McAllen. Rusos and Mayo guys have their families live in southern California.
There's such a large number of cartel family members in the US that I wonder if the bill could ever really happen? Also, there'd have to be provisions for protected witnesses and their families.
The 'revocation of naturalized citizenship' happens already if you're convicted for drug trafficking. That's been in place for decades now.
DeleteNot for family members though. Which is what's different about this.
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DeleteI'm not aware of any grounds for denaturalization based on a criminal conviction unless the crime was hidden during the naturalization process. The only grounds for denaturalization that I'm aware of is fraud during the naturalization process, such as hiding a previous criminal conviction.
I believe you are confusing this with inadmissibility. Family members of drug traffickers are inadmissible for entry into the U.S., but so many exceptions make this law toothless.
Denaturalization is incredibly rare. Rarely does the U.S. prosecute more than a dozen cases per year. This may have changed under Trump. He ordered a review that found thousands had lied during the naturalization process. I believe that denaturalization increased under Trump but I don't have any numbers.
The sole ultimate question in denatualization proceedings is, was this person eligible for U.S. citizenship. If the person was ineligible because he hid a criminal conviction, then the U.S. had grounds for begin the denaturalization process. I don't believe they can be denaturalized for any crime that occurred after naturalization was complete.
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DeleteDenaturalization of family members will never fly in court. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that loss of citizenship is a severe penalty. You cannot penalize family members for a criminal's conduct. They can suffer collateral consequences, but the government itself cannot penalize family members for another person's conduct.
Ah. I see. So even if the bill is passed, the Supreme Court will shoot it down. Good to know.
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DeleteIt wouldn't even make it to the U.S. Supreme Court. It would be shot down in the U.S. district court where the case was pending. The issue is settled and it is binding on every court in the U.S.
The leading case is Trop v Dulles, 356 US 86 (1958). They ruled that denaturalization is penal despite the fact that the law was civil, at 99. You cannot be convicted of bank robbery if your brother committed the robbery and you had nothing to do with it. Once the U.S. ruled that denaturalization is penal, the accused is entitled to a trial along with all of the rights that they possess throughout the trial process and can only be applied to the accused, not innocent family members.
The leading case on deciding if a civil statute is penal in nature is Kennedy v Mendoza-Martinez, 372 US 144 (1963). This decision created the "Mendoza-Martinez factors" that help courts decide if a statute is penal in nature. This affects the Ex Post Facto and detainer clauses and a broad number of civil issues decided in court.
Once a civil statute is found to be penal in nature it cannot be applied retroactively, i.e., see INS v St. Cyr, 533 US 289 (2001).
It's not always easy to deport someone based solely on a criminal conviction. There is a Seventh Circuit case that illustrates this, i.e. see, Jideonwo v INS, 224 F3d 692 (CA7, 2000).
Denaturalizing someone is not an easy answer.
Deportation is more viable but still requires tweaking our laws to make them both more effective and more fair. The current state of deportation law doesn't always serve the law's objectives and isn't always fair.
As we have seen here, many drug traffickers have been allowed to stay in the U.S. despite trafficking major amounts of drugs and being responsible for many murders.
A drunk driver who kills someone in a crash will be deported despite the fact that drunk drivers rarely repeat their crimes, while those who engage in drug sales has a high rate of recidivism.
We already have the laws on the books but we need to get rid of all of the exceptions. Even cooperating witnesses should be deported to a third country if they are unsafe in their own country. Allowing them to remain in the U.S. only rewards their criminal behavior.
The Supreme Court justices are life long appointees of the president. And the current justices are very conservative (republicans) and I doubt very seriously they strike anything down dealing with getting drug traffickers and their families out of the US for good. There are no liberal judges currently at Supreme Court. And that’s the type of justices needed to strike a law like that down.
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DeleteBut Detroit just explained how it would be shut down in district court, citing the legal precedent, so the leanings of the SC justices don't necessarily matter.
DeleteIt's all very interesting to learn, what changes can and cannot be made.
Texans talk a lot of shit. As it is they're still making excuses for all those kids they allowed to be killed by an untrained gunman
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DeleteAll of the court cases that I have cited are good law. I know because I have researched and presented these cases in court several times over the last few years (I own a law firm).
If you believe that the current court will make it easier to deport criminal aliens, you are sadly mistaken. Read Nasrallah v Barr, 140 S Ct. 1683 (2020).
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DeleteThe Police were trained, and to follow orders from the High command.
The school has school police justification, the school police chief Aredondo was present and told the police to stand down, failure was by Aredondo, who was eventually fired.
2:52 If you have a gun, and kids will die, as a man... you do something and ignore "orders".
DeleteWhen you choose to immigrate to the USA you have to provide biographical information, so at minimum three generations. You can bet that certain areas and last names will get more attention. Nobody gets in front of the government, they will build a case and wrap up the whole enchilada. You will pay with time, money or both. For those that say different, them people are cooperating with those people😉
DeleteA lot of posters here like to say that the cartels run various states in Mexico. That is clearly untrue. Over the last decade or so, the various states have imprisoned thousands of cartel members. The arrests here prove that Guanajuato is on that long list of states where the citizens are tired of the violence and politicians are responding.
ReplyDeleteEven though some politicians are corrupt, clearly the majority of politicians are honest and standing up to the cartels.
The only state where the cartels are seemingly in control is Sinaloa. This is probably due more to fear than corruption. It's only a matter of time until Sinaloa catches up to the rest of Mexico.
And Sinaloa, Durango, Campeche, Chiapas, Oaxaca, Yucatan, and few others.
DeleteGood analysis Detroit, I'm only learning about how it all works, but I do agree from what I've seen it's nowhere near as simple as saying "cartels run the government/states"
DeleteInteresting choice of words charging one with terrorism
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