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Another audio clip of hitmen alleging that Mayo handed over Ovidio’s location has emerged online.
Another Claim of Betrayal
An audio clip that allegedly depicts communications from Chapitos hitmen has emerged online. The video was posted on Twitter by the account Fernando Diaz.
Much like the one which was previously reported on, it's unclear if the audio is authentic or if it's merely a ploy meant to heat up the plaza.
The audio goes as follows, as translated by Sol Prendido:
Hey dude, I am being told right now that a lot of gunmen are gathering in Tamarindo, and all the surrounding ranches.
They’ve declared war against Mayo.
Its official that sometime tonight the Mayo people are going to face off with the Chapitos people. Gunmen from El Salado are on standby right now.
We always knew it would end up leading to war.
They are saying that Mayo gave up Ovidio and he tried to give up the other brothers as well, but he was unable to.
These guys are having a conniption. This is almost certainly going to blow up now.
If you can stay indoors, stay. Don’t come out onto the street. Don’t say anything. Keep quiet and stay in your home, for your own good.
Some may claim that no one person could give up Ovidio’s location simply because “everyone already knew he was in Jesús María” but really that belies a lack of understanding of the narco’s personal history.
Because Ovidio - well, he is not a man to stay in one place for too long. According to an article by El Universal, Ovidio recently lived for 6 months in Mexico City in 2021.
It was during this period of time that a group of hitmen plotted to kill him as he visited The Cheesecake Factory located in Parque Delta. He allegedly made a habit of visiting the restaurant every Thursday - each time ordering a milkshake and a cheesecake.
The hitmen ultimately ended up being called off because there were concerns about too many civilian casualties.
More bullshit. Ovidios ppl are butt hurt cus mayo wldnt be stupid enough to send his men to stop the arrest. But ovidio was fucking stupid for staying in the same place for months. The smartest one of chapos sons is the one we know less about. Joaquin guzman lopez ovidios brother. Lets not forget that el mz saved the life of a few of chapos sons when the jaliscas kidnapped their ass.
ReplyDeleteJaliscas didn't kidnap them!
DeleteJaliscos did kidnap los chapitos, Puerto Vallarta is one of CJNG strongest/lucrative plazas. 🥳🧐
DeleteJalisco didnt kidnap them...thats the narrative they were putting out though since its the perfect cover up..it is cjng stronghold etc . thats the perfect way to heat up the plaza & shyt.. It was mini lic or his dad people ...it could of been the chapitos themselves to make a distraction for some weird reason we will never know but trust it wasnt cjng that kidnap them
DeleteCjng & CDS dont have an alliance but they also weren't enemies they were neutral since they both were just pure drug dealers not extorting and kidnapping civilians so you can say they were the two of the Lesser evils but I don't know about now seems like they having some sort of proxy war in Zacatecas and other places but I don't think el mayo and mencho bumping heads I think it's more of a proxy war
It wasn't mini lic or his dad, they brly had any power. Hence "they turned themselves in".
DeleteDistraction? They weren't enemies? Your clearly over analyzing the situation.
CJNG stronghold + mayo + chapo negotiating using menchito is leverage speaks volumes.
8:56 or maybe it was los zetas? Or the ISIS fighters? Lmao people always tryna discredit the almighty CJNG.
DeleteLos damasos had hardly any people left. Los chapitos kidnapping chapitos? Thats truly laughable.
A proxy war in Zacatecas ? It's literally CJNG people and MZs(from Durango) fighting. 😐
And ofcourse it's not mencho and mzs fighting it out physically and directly, but it sure is their groups.
It wasn't CJNG who kidnapped Ivan and Jesus in PV. They did help negotiate the release because it happened in their Plaza. The kidnappers were part of a group led by El Mochomo's son, remnants of the BLO. Same dude who sent dozens of Sicarios to hit Chapo's Mom's house in La Tuna. Remember that even after Mochomo was arrested, Arturo BL didn't split from CDS and go to war until Ivan was released from prison months later. Arturo found out where his brother was being held directly after his arrest, and even negotiated with the AFI officers guarding him to just walk away when his Sicarios showed up to rescue Alfredo. But Chapo said no, Mochomo was going to have to take the hit for CDS as a whole. ABL was pissed, but listened to Chapo for the time being. Until Ivan was released, which was the catalyst of ABL breaking away and starting the CDS/BLO war. Of course very few people really know, but it was said Mayo and RCQ asked Mencho for support, and he gave it. Think Mencho really respected RCQ and Mayo and negotiated the release on their behalf. Also, sources said Mencho was pissed because it happened on his territory without his approval. Alfredito obviously never forgot what happened to his Dad, but seemed to know after the kidnapping in PV that he and his group were in over their heads. PV is not Badiraguato. Even Mayo helping out to get the two released was strange, as Los Chapitos asked Damaso to kill Mayo after their Pops got arrested for the third time and was extradited. Damaso considered it but refused when Los Chapitos admitted that their Dad did not give that order. You have to think that Mayo found out about that. Was one of the main specific events that started the war between Los Damasos and Los Chapitos, other than the general conflict over who would take over Chapo's cell of CDS. Mayo probably just wanted to maintain stability and keep the work moving. And for all the evidence showing Mencho is/was so bloodthirsty, he also showed he is/was capable of Realpolitik as well when the timing and situation call for it.
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DeleteCDS literally used menchitos life as leverage in in exchange for the release of los chapitos, since rubensito was in prison at the time and was an easy target. No digas tarugadas @3:35
Deletehttps://laopinion.com/2021/09/03/video-el-mochomito-asi-fue-el-dia-que-secuestro-a-los-hijos-del-chapo-guzman/
Deletehttps://www.infobae.com/america/mexico/2020/08/16/el-dia-que-el-mencho-secuestro-a-los-chapitos-hace-cuatro-anos-se-pudo-desatar-la-mas-sangrienta-de-las-guerras-entre-carteles/
https://lasillarota.com/nacion/2020/12/18/el-dia-que-los-hijos-de-el-chapo-fueron-secuestrados-en-vallarta-168842.html
https://solquintanaroo.mx/el-misterioso-secuestro-de-los-chapitos-2-3-partes/
Many theories say it was mochomit0 or damas0s. However all information Literally indicates it was CJNG.
your info is wrong, damaso did try and kill los chapitos and el mayo. They sent a fucken letter to news outlets explaining the ambush(for godsakes). You making these events up as you go huh@335
Deletehttps://acustiknoticias.com/2019/02/el-licenciado-traiciono-a-el-chapo-e-intento-matar-a-los-chapitos-y-a-el-mayo/
Cmon guys can anyone intelligently explain how it was not the jaliscas that kidnapped the chapitos in guadalajara. Was it la plaza? Was it the left overs of the coroneles that still holding a small piece of jalisco? It cldnt be. If it happened in guadalajara it was jaliscas. The rumor was as soon as el mz found out what happened he sent men to where menchita was locked up and told mencha if you kill chapos sons ill kill your son.
DeleteOh also if damaso wld of done it why not kill them on the spot? He has a chance to get rid of his main enemies and he didnt pull the trigger. The theory it was damaso in guadalara is fucking dumb.
DeleteUse common sense and think it through.
DeleteWho controls PV?
How long had Chapitos been in PV?
Did they sneak in and were willing to risk themselves and everyone else with them just to eat and take pictures?
How many Chapitos got picked up?
What about the other individuals, were they from powerful families?
Yet somehow Mencho was at a disadvantage in that supposed kidnapping event he planned? No mamen.
The Mayo "threat" was a fairy tale to save face by the Sinaloas. You can bet that the people who didn't get picked up right away informed Chapitos family as they had to be aware of who Los Chapitos are.
Shit even EPN was nervous initially when the news broke of the levantón.
The team that hit La Leche were CJNG but they didn't know who they had picked up, that mistake they paid with their lives and those who were autores intelectuales we're shortly thereafter chased or arrested by the Mexican government.
Ms HEARST can I bother you to compile the BB stories regarding these events?
5:38 Come on son theres like 20 different stories and you only choose to believe one? Come on cuh be serious, BB already covered like half of those but still believe what you want to so plz stop your cheerleading
Delete5:38 the only thing we can say happened for sure is that they got kidnapped and pistol whiped 🤣🤣 the rest are assumptions
Delete8:08/8:10 it's old news but some people want to make one believe Chapitos and CDS were the ones doing the levantón
DeleteBecause their dad was a snitch. They cant trust anyone. What happened to el azuls cds faction? Did el azul have a successor to his business withing the cartel? Or his group was integrated into one of the others factions?
ReplyDeleteEvery cartel leader is a snitch. That's called survival in that world and it's what you idiots refuse to accept. There are no rules.
DeleteI think all of Azul’s sons are dead ..last one died of COVID complications.
Delete8:37 El Azul. The least of all those narcos to underestimate. One of his sons is still out there in a big city of the west. He was Chapo's partner. Now likely a partner of someone else in the Guzman family
Delete10:12 I doubt any remaining son of JJEM would link up with Chapitos, my opinion is he wouldn't need to as his father was very respected by practically all the bosses and he could work through many border plazas.
DeleteMr Blue was a Boss from the 70s and he remained with those people
I heard the soldiers rolled up to Jesus Maria in A Ley(grocery store) bus that is used to take people to and from work and came in at the same time as usual but was full of soldiers and ended up surprising them that way.
ReplyDeleteNah it was by helicopter
DeleteSnichloas
ReplyDelete6:25 sour as fuck
DeleteHow can one know for certain this recording is authentic ?
ReplyDeleteits not listen to the voice he is not from sinaloa his accent
DeleteHis voice concerned the Sinaloa listeners because he is not in Sinaloa himself plus he’s excluding the receiver of the voice message as being on either side also he’s telling him to do his errands and go back to his safe house with discretion
Deletemann to waste time on civilian talk. my cousins friend said this and this type chatter
ReplyDeleteI believe that everybody who is anybody knew that he stayed there. Even if he changed safe houses, the military would know when he was there. 👀 What phones connect to the local cellphone tower and which phones are together.
ReplyDelete"He allegedly made a habit of visiting the restaurant every Thursday "
ReplyDeleteBig mistake If there is a $5 million bounty on your head you keep a low profile, dont vist the same location so often.
The Mayiza vs Los Ratones.
ReplyDeleteThis is getting better than 90's WWF matches.
RAW is WAR was one of the best wrestling sagas of all time
DeleteYup the attitude era
DeleteWWF Vs WCW
DeleteMost wanted man in country goes to Cheesecake Factory every week at the same time. No one ever said the Guzman clan was smart.
ReplyDeleteNot very smart and arrogant…
Delete@Hearst: Do you think the CDS sicarios with Fuerzas Especiales Raton badges (arrested in CDMX in July 2022) were part of Ovidio’s security team or part of an enforcement cell he was using to take plazas in the capital?
ReplyDeletehttps://lasillarota.com/metropoli/2022/7/13/por-que-detenidos-en-topilejo-usan-placas-con-imagen-de-un-raton-esto-sabemos-384149.html
I think those guys with the badges were either an enforcement team or they were involved in drug distribution/the security of drug warehouses.
DeleteI don't remember any evidence suggesting that they were involved in Ovidio's personal security.
Gangsters like El Chapo and El Mayo aren't born every day. Doubtful Mayo has a lot of respect for trust fund gangsters like the Chapitos.
ReplyDeleteHaving said that, I've heard Ivan is the real deal. But still not getting respect from Mayo like their dad did.
u heard right big fish in the coke bussiness still no morals, if the town is with you its going to be real hard getting to u chapitos dont have the town with them anymore greety scums
Delete*greedy* come on bruh
DeleteYou can be greedy nothing wrong with that in the drug bussiness but there are sertain rules put in place by every fraction of the cartel that just can not breack and once you do you become a target, chapo broke so many of those unwritten rules that i was surprised he lasted as long as he did
DeleteSimply "Being greedy" isn't the same thing as being a gangster.
DeleteShouldve ubered that damn food every thursday.
ReplyDeleteese we ni es de sinaloa el que esta hablando puro pedo
ReplyDeleteSinaloa has different accents depends the region you're in or it could be a dgo or sonora person that was brought down to sin to work
Delete11:13 🎯💯 you know what you are talking about, theres even some Sinaloas that you can understand what they are talking about
DeleteThen 3,500 soldiers come to culiacan. Yup mayo is sending his people
ReplyDeleteIf he has it like thay, he's one extremely powerful man
DeleteWonder if sinaloa is kidnapping migrants to fight their war? Person speaking sounds like he's from central America.
ReplyDelete11:37 nah this guy sounds like a Sinaloa that actually finished elementary school, by the way Sinaloans sound like central Americans and some southern Americans who dont pronounce the "S"
DeleteHow much $$$(millions$$) was paid and to who(must be powerful) to allow Ovidio to have safe passage for 6 mos in Mexico City! Obviously they knew his every move to the minute detail of cheescake and milkshake every thursday!
ReplyDeleteAMLO’s group? Only stating this because if he wanted, the extradition would’ve already happened. He’s one of those that tells kids “I’m just gonna put you in time out for five minutes, then you can go back and slap your teacher again.”
DeleteThe gvt was even running security for him, arresting the caf hit-team and then briefing Ovidio on that while Ovidio met with gvt officials and roamed around the city like a tourist! That's why i say the military is different sides of the same coin!
DeleteA good chance that Mayo's people told Mayo after the attempted hit on El Russo and other problems with Chapizas people, that either you take care of the Chapizas or we are done with you and will take care of them ourselves! Little by little the Chapizas have been taking more territory from Mayo's people! Culiacan was the first plaza where El Russo, Mayo's boy was eliminated!
ReplyDeleteGetting rid of an old and weakened Mayo makes sense for the Chapitos. And it makes sense that Mayo's sicarios would give him an ultimatum. So, yes, Mayo sold out the Chapitos.
DeleteMayo is older but weaker i dont know about that
DeleteNah Mayo has nothing to do with this. This operation to capture him was a gift to Biden.
ReplyDeleteCJNG probably releasing these audios... would be a great move to get 2 biggest CDS factions fighting each other.... not just in Sonora n mexicali but all over
ReplyDeleteSo that would make it a fact that El Nini got demomoted or removed from his position because of the lose of merca and most likely his compadre stealing it.
ReplyDelete09 sigue firme con los menores
DeleteDemomoted lol
Deletechicken little sigue pendiente
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Delete"Demomoted lol"
Anow dude i fuckin love them,funny shit
It was Hulk Hogan and the Hulkamaniacs
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