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Military Admits Soldiers Shot Without Provocation - Five Killed in Nuevo Laredo Follow Up

"HEARST" and "Redlogarythm" for Borderland Beat 


In a press release posted yesterday, the Army seemingly admitted that soldiers fired at the men without provocation in Nuevo Laredo. 


Meanwhile, the official police report claims that soldiers heard gunfire right before they fired, while also revealing that nothing illicit was found in the vehicle. 

This story is a follow up to yesterday’s story covering the controversial military shooting of five men in Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas, which you can read here


Warning: Some graphic images below this point. 

The Results of The Military Investigation


At around 5:00 p.m. on February 28, 2023, the military sent out a press release which presented the current findings of their investigation into the Nuevo Laredo incident. It reads as follows: 


The Ministry of National Defense briefs the public about the events that took place on February 26, 2023, in the city of Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas.

At approximately 4:50 am on Sunday, February 26, 2023, military personnel from a base in Nuevo Laredo, who were conducting reconnaissance in the urban area, as part of public security, heard gunshots, which put them on alert, and they advanced towards the noise. 


Then, they saw a pickup-style truck with seven individuals on board, who were speeding with their lights off and without a license plate. The vehicle’s passengers, upon observing the presence of the troops, accelerated their speed in a reckless and evasive manner, and they then crashed into a vehicle that was parked.   

In this situation, after hearing a loud noise, military personnel fired their weapons; this aspect is currently being investigated by various government authorities in order to determine its veracity. 


Initially, one person was unharmed, one was wounded and five were killed. The person who was wounded was given medical attention, requesting the support of an ambulance to transport him to a health facility.


In response to these events, the following actions were taken:

- Coordination with the federal Attorney General's Office (FGR), in order to collaborate with the investigations and proceedings for the integration of the investigation file.  

- Coordination and close collaboration with the National Human Rights Commission, in order to facilitate their investigations.  

- Corresponding investigations by the General Prosecutor's Office of Military Justice, with regard to the actions carried out by the personnel involved in the military sphere.   

- A dialogue was opened with the families, through the Citizen Liaison Unit of the Ministry of National Defense, in order to provide the corresponding assistance for these types of cases.   

The Mexican Army and Air Force reaffirm their commitment to work in strict adherence to the rule of law and with full respect for human rights, providing all facilities to the authorities and to national and state human rights organizations, complying with any resolution determined by the authorities.


- The Army and Air Force,

The Great Force of Mexico


A key section of the statement is oddly phrased. The Army wrote “in this situation, upon hearing a loud noise, military personnel fired their weapons". This is phrased as a statement of fact and not as an allegation. 


The first phrase ends with a semicolon and the sentence continues to say "this aspect is currently being investigated by various government authorities in order to determine its veracity," which seems to imply it is not a matter of fact, but still something being investigated. 



The Official Police Report


Recently, the Spanish newspaper El Pais published what they allege is the official police report on the incident, with appropriate redactions made.


Although the beginning of the report is largely the same, it later begins to provide a number of important new details that were not included in the Army's press release.




The police report reads as follows, as translated by Redlogarythm: 


"It was approximately 5:00 am of February 23 2023, while on service from El Laguito operational base on board of 4 military vehicles the first one being a Cheyenne n. (…), the second one being a Cheyenne n. (…), the third one being a Cheyenne n. (…) and the fourth one being a Sandcat n. (…) , with 20 soldiers on board of the 4 vehicles at the orders of Cavalry Captain 2nd class (…). "



"While we were on reconnaissance duties and patrolling by Mier Street, in the Cavazos Lerma neighborhood, we heard gunshots and -not knowing where the gunshots came from- we arrived at Huasteca Street where we saw a white pickup type vehicle that accelerated after seeing the military presence, so we began to follow it. "



"We turned right on to Huasteca Street, observing that the vehicle had just hit another vehicle. "



"Having reached the intersection between Huasteca and Méndez Streets, the vehicle stopped after going another block and two of our vehicles n. (…) and (…) arrived at the same point and heard new gunshot noises. "



"At this moment, I, as the Cavalry Captain 2nd class, responsible for the aforementioned personnel, heard several soldiers started shooting without me giving the order to do so - so I used the radio to order a ceasefire. "



"After that, I descended from the vehicle and asked who had shot. The following four elements voluntarily answered that they had:

- Cavalry Corporal (…) 

- Cavalry Corporal (…) 

- Cavalry Corporal (…) 

- Cavalry Corporal (…) "



"Once the shots had ceased, we cordoned off the area and me and Corporal (…) started inspecting the vehicle in which we found 5 males - 3 were dead, 1 was wounded and another person that was not harmed."


"The deceased men were located (respectively) in  (1) the driver seat, (2) between the driver and front passenger, (3) on the right side of the back seat. 


The wounded man was located on the left side of the back seat and the unharmed man was in the center of the pickup truck's cargo bed. Outside of the vehicle, we found 2 additional deceased males."



"So, at approximately 5:20 am, I informed higher leadership of the facts of this incident and requested that personnel from the Attorney General's Office begin collecting evidence from the scene."



The Witness Testimony 


El Pais also published sections of alleged testimony from 21-year old Alejandro Pérez, the man who survived the incident unharmed. 


They write "The young man explains that he and his friends went to a nightclub in the city on Saturday night and how, on their way back, a military convoy began to chase them."


"He then explains that one of the military trucks collided with their vehicle from behind and how, immediately afterwards, the soldiers began shooting. He insists that none of them [his friends] fired shots prior. In fact, he insists, they did not carry any weapons."



“When I got out of the truck, I heard the military saying, 'kill him, kill him!' They pushed me to the ground. Then I heard two more gunshots, and later I saw my brother lying on the ground."


“I managed to see how a soldier shot my friend who was already wounded. He [the friend] asked for an ambulance, but a soldier shot him again."



“Then, they [the soldiers] asked me if I wanted to live or die and I told them that I wanted to live. And they told me to admit our guilt, while they videotaped me, admit that we were running away, which is not true."


Alejandro Pérez says that eventually he gave in and repeated what they said while a soldier recorded the message with his cell phone.





64 comments:

  1. Wonderful post Hearst!!, as always

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  2. Alejandro Perez Right this minute go into hiding son.

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    1. 11:04 Alejandro Perz should actually quit CDN but than again he is gonna get killed by them too

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    2. Scares me for all of us. The UN needs to bring this to light. Horrible executions, makes you wonder? Intentional hit by gub srvc off. I loved the people in the community and their re-actions to stormtruepurgers.

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    3. What should be brought to light is the attrocities that the CDN does on a daily bases in NL and thank to the SEDENA there are 5 less killers, you have no idea how many lives they just saves by sending those 5 guys to St. Peter, he will send them were they belong

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  3. It's nice to see the military take accountability for their fuck ups, despite one or some of the victims being suspected cartel members. It's messed up for the soldiers but hopefully something good comes out of this.

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    1. Suspected? Don't plant any doubts. He was a CDN sicario, and most likely the other victims were too.

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    2. 12:08 u the one playing doubts calling them victims...

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    3. Yes 12:08, as you say it is very probable that they were CDN members. And even if this is true is it something to be proud of if the army recognises that his personnel murdered 5 unarmed individuals for no reason? Public security obviously implies the use of force to prevent further famages, but if public security policies are used as a mean of transforming the protection of communities into the physical elimination of human beings according to some sort of pseudo-social cleansing strategy you will agree with me that something is really wrong here, won´t you?

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    4. 1:12 its only wrong when places in Latam do it, however it's perfectly fine in the states. Remember we like demonizing foreigners.

      Perhaps, don't run nxt time when military personnel approaches you? It's not rocket science.

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    5. I will use your argument. Would you fine it logic in the US that the police riddles with bullets a car just for not stopping? As always with people like you, Charles Bronson and his vigilante justice is the way...

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    6. 3:23 Redlogarythm
      I read the article, it seems as the article implies....Army was in the area, they hear gunshots, quick to access the truck, leaving the area at high speed, could be the shooters. Therefore Army soldiers fired, thinking they may get a chance to fire and kill some soldiers.

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    7. 3:51 you must understand that the Mexican army, as any formal Defense Force in the world, is ruled by rules of engagement. In this context (military personnel covering police duties) there are no exceptions to such rules. Military must use physical force when attacked, and this doesn´t give green light to preventive strikes. SEDENA personnel can only shoot to kill when they are attacked, just as the US army and any army in the world

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    8. 4:23 Redlogarythm so what is missing?
      That the soldiers, were supposed to wait until, they were fired up on and the Green would then be, soldiers are free to shoot them. So in other words even though they heard gunshots, they were not supposed to fire.

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    9. Always happy to see Redlog!!

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    10. This exactly why you have to take soldiers out the street. They aren’t trained to investigate and find out who’s responsible. They are on 1 mission. Neutralize any threat (real or perceived). They were only following their training. Does it make it right ? Depends who you ask. But you have to be objective in your assessment. At end of day. It’s casualties in war.

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    11. 4:23 PM This is Mexico your stupid rules don’t apply here hehe

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    12. 4:23 PM Metete por el jundillo tus reglitas aquí en mexico no aplican

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    13. Give it up with your bullshit regulations and rules of engagement.Is your world full of marzipan and flowing honey rivers?
      Never argue with an idealist

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    14. It is not a matter of rules or regulations (although it should be considering the fact that Mexico and its institutions aren´t animals) it´s a matter of agreeing on the point that SEDENA personnel cannot behave as death squadrons. Yes, it is very possible that all the guys in the car were CDN affiliated, but does this give anyone the right to shoot them death at point blank? There weren´t armed and hadn´t attacked the convoy. There´s a difference between claiming for tough public security policies and instigating unjustifiable murders. There´s no idealism in suggesting that human rights should be respected, both in Mexico and the US

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    15. Redlogarythm
      What about the salvage cartels that, torture, extort, behead innocents?
      Should we give them a pay in the back?
      When CDN and other cartels kill citizens no one cares, but when a known CDN group is killed, everyone cries. The shots the Army heard was nothing?

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    16. Those ruled you speak of are rarely implemented globally or even domestically in the U.S- go start a GoFund page or a car wash if your so concerned with the dead sicarios.

      VIVA EL GLORIOSO EJÉRCITO MEXICANO!

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    17. You can't talk any sense into liberals lol

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    18. I lived in Mexico and it hasn’t been a problem for me! …¿ Guess why ? … Because I’m not a freaking CRIMINAL and don’t hang around criminals!

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    19. https://www.tvazteca.com/aztecanoticias/muertos-jovenes-nuevo-laredo-cartel-del-noreste-antecedentes-penales-ejercito-investigacion-scol


      Rip @redlogs argument.

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    21. @2.03. It has nothing to do with being ''Liberal''. It is about whether you understand that Mexico and it's military doesn't work like it does in the US.

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    22. @ You make it sound like this happens every day, that BB is full of articles complaining about military over-reach and ignoring the atrocities CDN commits. What none of you seem to understand is that army impunity, for 20 years, is what helped create this situation. But you say it is a choice between Fully armed and trained soldiers killing young men who haven't threatened them, or giving ''The Cartel'' a foot massage. It's bullshit.

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    23. @11.02. You wouldn't be saying that if you had children and lived in the areas the army patrols, fool. Maybe their ''idealism'' is the ideal of wanting to keep their daughter alive.

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    24. @152 political stance has everything to do with ones perception.
      Méxicos army is far much more human than the U.S army? Are you kidding me? That's not even debatable. 🥵

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    25. 2:05 if i had children and know how CDN works i would defenetly be more worried about my daughters not returning home than i would be if the army had control, hands down CDN are worse than the Army, again the only people who feel safer around cartel members than the army are the families of those cartel members 10000%

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  4. Play stupid games win stupid prizes

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    1. Exactly. Kids, teenagers and young adults know how it is between CDN/Tropa del Infierno and the military: kill or be killed. Instead of involving themselves in crime that's low paid and carries the risk of having an early death, if they have no future in NL they should crossover to the USA by any means to better their lives in a legal sustainable way.
      On Twitter they have pictures of four individuals with CDN vests and AR style rifles where it's claimed they are some of the deceased. Just another day in Nuevo Laredo...

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    2. An army job is Mexico is low paid and carries the risk of an early death too. What are you on about? Anybody who says ''Play stupid games win stupid prizes'' should punch themself in the face.

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    3. 1:27 i dont get it 🤔

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  5. https://fb.watch/i-rLxRkPIG/?mibextid=NnVzG8

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  6. RIP poor souls But ya.miran.como.esta.la.cosa.y.andan.en.una.troca.nueva.saliendo.de.un.nightclub.los.soldados.ya.no.saben.con.quien.se.ponen.Mexico.is a Narco state

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  7. If that’s the case, the soldiers should be arrested and throw in jail. Can’t just shoot people because you want to.

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    1. Any sicario that's found out in NL is exterminated, its been that way for years

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    2. Explains why people feel safer with narcos rather than government forces.

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    3. 3:22 the only people who feel safer with the narcos than with the government forces are the familys of the narcos

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    4. "Explains why people feel safer with narcos rather than government forces"
      Fuck off,whats the score with all these clowns crying about the estakas rights awwwww,they were comin back from a club thats why they didnt shoot it out,fuck em

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    5. 3:22 not a chance! Normal civilians in Mexico not don’t feel safe with criminals that’s a myth that Mexicans feel safer with criminals

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    6. 3:22 that’s a quote only push and propagated by relatives of people involved in the under world

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    7. Mi hijo no era malo, nomas descuartizava gente pero no era malo no mericia morir🤣🤣🤣

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  8. O well cdn don't give a shit who they kill so o well

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  9. .Why dont you all protest for their (CDN) human rights.Poor sicarios only trying to party and wind down after patrolling and dismembering people and the big bad army shoots them up.Its just heartbreaking

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  10. I said it in the previous post on this story:
    Most of the soldiers are dirty criminals as well, they have been killing civilian’s of Mexico for years not all but most of them cover it up.
    Most likely the civilians were being nosey standing outside seeing what was going on, but they still didn’t deserve to be shot at, the family was angry & the cdn halcones joined in also making it look like they were all family members of cdn people. People in Mexico have to always worry about the criminal groups and the government criminal groups.

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    1. They were CDN sicario shit bags...they deserved it

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  11. TV Azteca announced that the deceased were members of CDN.

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    1. Yippee about time, military starts killing these low life scums, that bothers its own race and kills lots of innocents.

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    2. Yeah, cos they had their membership cards on them. Come on dude, that announcement was always coming...

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    3. 2:28 sus caras lo dicen todo, no need fir ID, sorry but cant go into an infested cartel town tatted up like that, its common sence, something you lack

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  12. It’s war. What do you expect?

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  13. One of them was confirmed CDN sicario..probably sage to assume others were too

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    1. 11:00 if you are a lil street savy just by looking at their pictures you wouldnt have a daught they were CDN, plus riding with a guy well known to be a CDN killer doesnt really leave much room for daughts

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    2. Sicarios in training riding around with their soon to be hit squad leader willie, they were probably looking for some one to pick up and start their training, if anything we should thank the soldiers for saving those inoccent who were gonna get picked up

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    3. @8.04. They were ''probably'' looking for somebody to pick up? If they hadn't been shot and HAD picked up that innocent, you'd be the first one to say ''This dude who got chopped in 4 pieces was probably a sicario, else why is he in 4 pieces?''

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    4. 2:41 o hell na, i am the kind that thinks that no one deserves that kind of death, maybe a bullet to the head to the worse human beens, but ill tell you what im the kind that thinks that as a comunity we all should take our own responsabilities, if your boy got shot at coming out of a night club with a known Cartel member well thats kind of your fault cause you as a parent should know that the cartel guy was gonna get hitt sooner or later and your "boy" would get it too, if i hang around drug dealers and the police are behind their ass and they get caught guess what? I will get caught too and will most likely get charged, in mexico the rules are a little different, you dont get charged, you get capped and the parents knew it, and if their kids were "good kids" they should of never had been hanging out and partyng with a killer

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    5. 2:41 sorry to burst your bubble but Mexico is not the USA, i live in the usa and i know you dont deserve to die if you hang out with a killer but at the same time ive lived in mexico half of my life and i know better to hang around in dangerous places with dangerous people, the outcomes of doing the same thing in the usa and mexico are way different and we should know that

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    6. Thank you military! I live in Mexico and I am happy you removed this trash from our streets.

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    7. 9:24 👍👍👍

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    8. 9:24 thats my boy! Im with you 100%, puros heroes sin capas

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