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Sunday, July 23, 2023

CJNG Not Involved In Attack Against Jalisco Prosecutors And Municipal Police Officers

 "Char" for Borderland Beat 

This article was reposted from Proceso Magazine 

The director of a news portal Carmen Vázquez rules out that organized crime was behind the attack against the authorities on July 11, as Governor Enrique Alfaro claimed.


GUADALAJARA, Jal. (proceso.com.mx) The director of a news portal about Tlajomulco, Carmen Vázquez Amador, said that she received calls, but not from the search groups, which led to the landmine attack against members of the Jalisco prosecutor's office and municipal police on July 11, which left six dead and 15 injured.

At the same time, she ruled out that the Jalisco Cartel - New Generation (CJNG) was behind the attack against the authorities, as the governor Enrique Alfaro assured, and that it was a political blow against the municipal president of Tlajomulco, Salvador Zamora Zamora.
"The media took it upon themselves to blame the CJNG, I sincerely doubt it was them because it is not their way of working (...) Besides, I have never seen the cartel arrive and carry out terrorist attacks against children and women, or innocent people, they are pissed off by that (...) if anything pisses them off it is that innocent people die," he said.

She considers that the attack came from someone "who wanted to heat up the terrain for the cartel; from everything I have been seeing, to heat up the terrain for the municipal president Zamora (...) because we all know that they are all candidates (...) and this is not the first blow they have dealt him".

She asked the governor and the prosecutor's office not to waste time on the line of investigation that the attack was carried out by the CJNG and to focus on the evidence he gave them when he filed the complaint.

Through a Facebook transmission, lasting 1 hour and 31 minutes, Carmen Vázquez said that on July 10 and 11 she received three calls and messages via Whatsapp from different people to inform her that there was a clandestine grave on Flaviano Ramos street, near the municipal capital. In addition, they shared with him the location and photos of the place.

One man even told her that he belonged to "la empresa" (another name for the CJNG) and that he had buried several people there. Carmen Vázquez passed the report on to the authorities, who came on the 10th but found nothing.

At the insistence of the alleged complainants, she again asked the Tlajomulco police, as well as the prosecutor's office to go to the site. She states that she did not arrive at the scene due to a mechanical failure of her vehicle.

She indicates that she did not publish "the truth" of the attack because the prosecutor's office asked her to wait so as not to hinder the investigation.

She considers that Sergio Julián and Samuel, the only two arrested for the attack, were not involved, they were only at the scene.

Both were indicted on July 21 for the crimes of aggravated homicide, attempted homicide and injuries committed against representatives of the authorities, according to investigation file 51844/2023.

After the attack, Alfaro informed that all searches for missing persons would be suspended when the information came from an anonymous report. 

In view of this, Carmen Vázquez points out that "I am the only witness, in a certain way by telephone, who can really say what happened from the beginning, and it is not acceptable that the subject of the searching mothers is being discussed and they are not allowed to search".

The communicator filed a complaint with the prosecutor's office for threats she received through Facebook, for which she already has protection measures.


68 comments:

  1. from the beginning I had a hard time believing it was CJNG heating up their own plaza.

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    1. IMO: It's probably the foreign guerilleros from colombia/el salvador/guatemala who are enlisted in CJNG rival groups like C.U/CSRL.

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  2. Dont know if it's political but like insaid before this has the cds (MG) stamp all over it, its a desperate attemp to being federal forces to fight CJNG since he is getting his ass wooped

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    1. Nice try cheerleader! Man up for your team. Its in jalisco its your people stop pointing fingers

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    2. 2:41 MG is from Jalisco flying the CDS flag buddy i know what im talking about unlike you

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    3. 10:38 cjng has been caught with explosives in Zacatecas and in Guanajuato they have also put them in a car. It all points that those satanic pigs are creating these terrorist acts to intimidate government to keep supporting them in their territory

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    4. 9:10 all cartels have beem caught with explosive bud

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    5. 12:23 ive only read of cjng having them and using them to cause panic as far back to when they made that video where they strap dinamite on a father and his kid back in 2014 , maybe zetas have also but, not all have used them like you say bud

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    6. 6:17 well you need to read a little bit more bud

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    7. 11:09 state your sources that talk about other cartels being caught with explosives like cjng has in recent years bud.

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    8. 9:54
      I'm not the person you are talking to but David Saucedo says CSRL created the recent car bomb and the group has been caught with shipments of explosives.

      https://www.borderlandbeat.com/2023/07/the-cjng-csrl-car-bomb-which-turned.html

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    9. 9:54
      Plus, in 2021, there was an IED used in Camargo, Tamps, by either CDN or CDG.

      https://www.borderlandbeat.com/2021/10/army-discovers-roadside-ied-in-camargo.html

      So, there are multiple cartel groups using explosives in a limited fashion, currently.

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    10. 10:21 yea one or two other scumbag groups that has done it the guy i was replying to says all cartels are doing it to make his heroes sound not as bad

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    11. 11:13 you must be naive AF to think only a few cartels have explosives in their arsenal, that would be a big disadvantage in a war, cartels in colombia have used them back in the day, so is not a new thing, mexico is going to what the colombians were doing at the end of pablo escobar war, to my knowledge CJNG has never use land mines, explosives yes, land mines nope, the viagras have though, and again now a days every cartel can get them easy

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  3. hmmmm so you telling me this lady didn't realize she was being used as bait? (and she been getting threats and warnings they coming after her and them) they literally used her to test the cops response smh that lady was a set up to those cops and people. RIP

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  4. She's full of shit , cjng doesn't give a single fuck if children or innocent people die,"it's not their way of working" 😂 she must off gotten a big check to come out speak in favor of those rats

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    1. @11:33 why would they do some shit like that on their own turf makes no sense .. what do they gain? Pretty sure they don't want the fbi there and all the extra heat

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    2. They getting slaughtered by escorpiones

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    3. Your not very smart are you. Lol

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    4. El Benny:
      These rocket scientists didn't plan on the FBI getting involved. The CJNG isn't heating up it's own plaza. It's telling Jalisco to back off on the investigation of the narco fosas that the Searching Mothers have located.

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    5. 11:33 yea they dont give a fuck when is not in their controlled areas, but they dont like heat that brings in their controlled areas, thats the difference

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    6. 11:54 😂😂😂😂 the Broke Ass Cartel? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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    7. @ El Benny On what world do you live in? You're talking about CJNG, the bloodiest cartel in Mexico. They fucking killed an ex governor and you're talking about extra heat? They kidnapped, killed and dismembered 8 young people from a call center 2 months ago. Just STFU with that "they don't want to heat their own plaza" bullshit. Those mofos don't give a shit. That lady who's talking is on the pay list 100%, the dick sucking is so obvious.

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    8. 210 by using explosives? And getting country wide attention? Why don't they just threatened the prosecutors?

      Makes no sense.

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    9. @ 8:18 - finally, a comment that I can agree with 100%

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    10. 9:23:
      They haven't just threatened prosecutors. CJNG has kidnapped and killed several prosecutors right on their own turf. Using explosives in the past didn't get this much attention. They weren't expecting the media or government's response.

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    11. 837 hey Detroit smart-ass, tell me something I don't know.

      Using explosives in the past? Like when?

      What response? Jaliscos government has literally done nothing but arrest 2 innocent individuals who witnessed the event. And I'm positive by now CJNG knows they're damned if they do, damned if they don't.

      Everything gets blamed on them the magnifying glass has been on them for years now.

      Michoacan is the perfect example of how baised and one sided the media is.

      Where was all the distraught and concerned when CSRL or CT did literally the same things, heck some of the CT sicarios were posing with the explosives online before they used them on military personnel, interestingly enough they had CJNG insignias on them 😂.

      Landmines in apatzingan.
      Car bomb in celeya.
      Car bomb in teocaltiche- defused.


      Ex guerilleros from colombian, el salvador and guatamala are fighting against CJNG in Michoacan and Guanajuato. It could have easily been any of them. That's their specialty amongst other things.

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  5. From what I hear, CJNG is pretty damn good with the people they dont touch them and they help them of course it's for there own benefit. It don't make sense to me. I think it's someone trying to heat up the area and get the the military to focus on CJNG

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  6. CJNG fan boys are GONE get all wet relax she probably under threats from those scum bags

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    1. 12:24 o yea no daught, every cartel does it or dont you know about CDN in Laredo or CDS in Sinaloa? But one thing doea not make sence, why would they want to heat up their own plaza with explosives? There are better ways to make the authorities work for you

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  7. “I have never seen the cartel arrive and carry out terrorist attacks against woman and children, or innocent people”. - Are you serious right now ? What kind of Mexico is she living in because it certainly isn’t my Mexico ? Either, she’s that ignorant or she’s full of shit.

    “I sincerely doubt it was them because it is not their way of working” - Wasn’t CJNG the first cartel in Mexico to start using bomb drones ? Dropping bombs from drones, that’s ok. Using land mines, oh no that’s too far. We, CJNG, would never do such a thing.

    Also, I find it kind of funny that a couple of days before this attack, CJNG dropped a bunch of pamphlets from a plane accusing the governor of working with CDS and accusing the military of giving CDS explosives. This happened in Teocaltiche, Jalisco. So, let me get this straight, CJNG is accusing CDS of working with the governor and with law enforcement to combat CJNG. And CDS thought that the best way to keep the alliance that they have with the governor and with law enforcement was to use the same explosives that they were supposedly given by the military to kill members of law enforcement in Jalisco. The state that is supposedly being governed by someone who had an alliance with CDS. Yeah, that makes complete sense.

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    1. @12.34 The most accurate analysis! Very nice, sir! The fan boys can say whatever they want, CJNG are terrorist!

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  8. Carmen Vazquez sounds like a Mencho fangirl. "It's not their way of working..." She forgets about the CJNG attacks in the Tierra Caliente last year using the same technique. And of course we all know that CJNG doesn't kill women, children and other innocent people.
    The Searching Mothers have found dozens of narco fosas in Tlajomulco bringing a lot of heat on the CJNG. Killing the mothers directly is bad for their image so they have to target the state prosecutors. This appears to be the CJNG telling prosecutors to back off on investigating the narco fosas.

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  9. Nothing but CJNG warriors in these comment this site is very sus now! Some 🌞 hating pussy is deleting CDS people. Unfairly he ride for that cjng choriso in his mouth

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  10. You cjng dk riders can all patty cake each other now, cause this is the only way to feel like you won. Bitchs cant take the heat, teddletail ass nighas

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    1. No ninjas over there

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    2. 2:33 how old are kid? Who uses the word nighas?

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    3. Have you seen young Latino kids talk the slang of Blacks? Not Kool.

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    4. 1:46 exactly my point, 2:33 cant be older than 23 if even

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  11. This form supports terroist cartels against women and children. Keep trying to protect thier image, its an agenda you work for them

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    1. Go and get some bud lighs, they are cheap as your agenda talk

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    2. 2:39 no mames cabeza! Mejor sientate a pensar lo que acavas de decir y pues analizalo muy bien

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  12. Isn't it curious she did'nt go because her vehicle had a mechanical failure ! You'd think she would had found a way to go ! Seems a little too convienent !

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  13. Only CJNG has the resources to pull this off in their own territory. Carmen Vasquez taking money/orders from AMLO.

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    1. Resources? Every cartel in México has some kind of c4/explosive in they're arsenal

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  14. CDS fangirls flipping out in here.

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  15. Just look at the timing of her comment… clearly a certain group will get less scrutiny when things “crank up”…

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  16. "The lady doth protest too much, methinks"
    🦎

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    1. "Da me thinks 🤔 lizard has a loose screw in da head".

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    2. 1:44 valio madre, la lagartija encontro al que le vende a SIR y pues este es el resultado

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    3. 11:19
      Es que fuma una Libra de mota per dia,
      Per eso dese mamadas.

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    4. "Make you to ravel all this matter out,
      That I am essentially not in madness,
      But mad in craft"..
      🦎

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  17. ◾️En 2019, El Mencho acusó al gobernador Enrique Alfaro de violar los acuerdos y aliarse con #MartínCoronel y #EstebanRodríguez , dos capos del cártel de #Sinaloa .

    ◾️Al igual que en otros estados, en Jalisco se encuentran periódicamente fosas subterráneas con restos humanos.

    ◾️ SEMEFO es un servicio forense mexicano también encargado de almacenar cadáveres en morgues. Ya hay más de mil cadáveres sin identificar en las morgues del estado de Jalisco.

    📌 Entonces lo que tenemos - según El Mencho , a raíz de los acuerdos concluidos con el Cártel de Sinaloa (que probablemente impliquen el traspaso del control del estado a sus manos y la expulsión del #CJNG), el gobernador #EnriqueAlfaro, por órdenes propias, está montando el descubrimiento de fosas subterráneas en Jalisco.

    Él consigue el “material” para esas mismas fosas entre los cadáveres no identificados que se encuentran en las morgues del SEMEFO en la jurisdicción de su estado, luego se cavan las fosas, se colocan los cadáveres y en un par de semanas el gobierno estatal encuentra milagrosamente estas fosas.

    ¿Cuál es el punto de estos procedimientos que usted pide? Es que recibe mucha atención del gobierno federal y de los medios.

    Los primeros comienzan a mandar “más gobierno” al estado (cita del video), y los segundos vuelven a levantar de boca en boca el nombre del CJNG , lo que aumenta aún más la presión sobre las mismas fuerzas federales.

    En México, esto se conoce como "calentar la plaza" .

    Por lo tanto, para tranquilizar a la ciudadanía, se tienen que realizar operativos contra el cártel (en nuestro caso, el CJNG ), y el gobierno estatal destinará más fondos para hacerles frente.

    La reciente explosión pudo atraer la atención no solo del gobierno federal y los medios internacionales, sino incluso de las agencias de inteligencia estadounidenses como el #FBI.

    Y es cierto, como ya se señaló, era difícil no correr bajo ese título.

    Y la información detallada sobre estos hechos es proporcionada al gobierno federal y al FBI por el gobierno estatal, que, a su vez, bajo el liderazgo de Enrique Alfaro, ataca al cártel de Sinaloa , por lo que cuán precisa es su información y cuán precisa será la investigación en el futuro es una pregunta retórica.

    En general se trata de cómo funciona el sistema, no olvides que esta es la versión del CJNG , se desconoce quién es el responsable real de todas las fosas y explosiones, aquí depende de a quién le creas: el narcotraficante "El Mencho" o el gobernador Enrique Alfaro .

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    1. 8:54 De dónde es esto que escribes? Cuál es la fuente?

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  18. Pues yo eh visto como el CJNG usa dinamita 🧨 y explota a un vato en video.

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  19. Alfaro is dumping unclaimed dead corpses in mass Graves in Jalisco to bring in Federal help to fight CJNG. Jalisco Gobernador has strong ties to the El Azul Ezparraraga family tree in Jalisco.

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  20. Pathetic... The government actually went out of their way to clear them... What about all the other bullshit they've done to Mexico. Informants is What CJNG is , just like every other cartel

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  21. Don’t forget cjng likes to blow up little kids and record it.

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    1. 11:35 and let's also not forget CDS like to make "love" to other man and record it

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    2. CDS and CJNG both bottom feeders that need the barrel of my gun to they're heads equally. get out of here CDS fans your a the first and the worst fangirls

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    3. 1:20 calm down mr wannabe sicario ur all talk no bite lil chihuahua

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    4. Liking men is one thing but blowing kids up is another sicko 12:35

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    5. They also like to cut open teens and pull out their organs to eat them. Cjng is the lowest of the low scum cartel their is and then they make videos crying like bitches instead of owning up to their shit and staying quiet

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    6. 8:33 that is true, that's probably why Alfaro wants CDS in Jalisco, so that they dont steal his wife 😂

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    7. Lmao 11:21 good one

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  22. Menchas child killing cartel did it.

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  23. This lady give me 100% suss vibes. Tells them to goto same place 2x and she herself don’t turn up due to mechanical problems? Things that make you go Hmmm. 🤔

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  24. CJNG DONT MESS WITH LAS MADRES BUSCADORAS, UNLIKE CDS WHO KILLED ROSARIO RODRIGUEZ, HER ONLY SIN-- WAS RELENTLESSLY LOOKING FOR HER SON WHO HAD DISSAPPEARED.

    SHE WAS MURDERED BY A C.D.S SICARIO.

    https://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/estados/2022/08/31/asesinan-a-rosario-lilian-rodriguez-madre-buscadora-en-sinaloa/

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