From an Investigation by the New York Times
American law enforcement officials spent years looking into allegations that allies of Mexico’s president, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, met with and took millions of dollars from drug cartels after he took office, according to US records and three people familiar with the matter.
The inquiry, which has not been previously reported, uncovered information pointing to potential links between powerful cartel operatives and Mexican advisers and officials close to the president while he governed the country.
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American law enforcement officials spent years looking into allegations that allies of Mexico’s president, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, met with and took millions of dollars from drug cartels after he took office, according to US records and three people familiar with the matter.
The inquiry, which has not been previously reported, uncovered information pointing to potential links between powerful cartel operatives and Mexican advisers and officials close to the president while he governed the country.
But the United States never opened a formal investigation into Mr. López Obrador, and the officials involved ultimately shelved the inquiry. They concluded that the US government had little appetite to pursue allegations against the leader of one of America’s top allies, said the three people familiar with the case, who were not authorized to speak publicly.
While the recent efforts by the US officials identified possible ties between the cartels and López Obrador’s associates, they did not find any direct connections between the president himself and criminal organizations. “There is no investigation into President López Obrador,” a spokesperson for the Justice Department said.
“The Justice Department has a responsibility to review any allegation.”
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New York Times Investigation
During the morning conference on Thursday, February 22, president AMLO revealed that Jesús Ramírez Cuevas, his coordinator of Social Communication, received a letter from Natalie Kitroeff, who wrote the article alongside Alan Feuer, with, as AMLO called it, a “threatening tone. ”"I want to inform you that we are working on a report about an investigation carried out by the United States government during the six-year term of President Andrés Manuel López Obrador, different from the DEA investigation that was made public a few weeks ago and that only analyzed his campaign of 2006. We hereby request your comments on the report. We have until 5:00 p.m. today, February 21, to include it in the article,” the letter from the New York Times said.
Natalie Kitroeff is in charge of the New York Times bureau in Mexico, Central America, and the Caribbean. She was a winner of a 2021 Polk Award and nominated for the Pulitzer Prize after her investigation into the assassination of the president of Haiti.
During AMLO's response to the letter and accusations, the Mexican President doxed the personal phone number of Kitroeff.
He said that Kitroeff sent a series of questions about the alleged delivery of money from the Sinaloa Cartel and Los Zetas to his collaborators and even his own children. Then, he proceeded to read the document, answered the questions listed, and even read in the middle of the press conference, the telephone number that the journalist provided to send his comments.
The National Institute of Transparency, Access to Information and Protection of Personal Data (INAI) reported that it initiated an investigation to establish whether "the Presidency violated its duties. Established in the General Law on Protection of Personal Data Held by Obligated Subjects (LGPDPPSO)" for releasing the journalist's personal information.
"El Mayo" Connection
Much of the information collected by US officials came from informants whose accounts can be difficult to corroborate and sometimes end up being incorrect. The investigators obtained the information while looking into the activities of drug cartels, and it was not clear how much of what the informants told them was independently confirmed.For example, records show that the investigators were told by an informant that one of López Obrador’s closest confidants met with Ismael "El Mayo" Zambada García, a top leader of the Sinaloa drug cartel, before his victory in the 2018 presidential election.
Los Zetas Bribery Allegation
A different source told them that after the president was elected, a [former] leader of the notoriously violent Los Zetas cartel paid $4 million to two of López Obrador’s allies in the hope of being released from prison.Journalist Carlos Loret de Mola announced statements by Celso Ortega, alleged leader of Los Ardillos, a criminal group that has spread terror and violence in Guerrero. In a brief interview, Ortega revealed that for the 2006 presidential campaign López Obrador also allegedly received money from Los Zetas, specifically from Omar Treviño Morales.
“When I was in Michoacán, upon the arrival of the “Z-42” he sent me to bring him and told me that I had to come to do politics in my region for Andrés Manuel López Obrador because they [Los Zetas] were paying for the presidential campaign of López Obrador for the PRD [...] once AMLO won, the entire country belonged to Los Zetas,” he declared.
Omar's brother, Miguel Angel Treviño Morales, known as "Z-40" has also been imprisoned in Mexico since his arrest in 2013. Unlike dozens of other cartel figures who have been extradited to the US since that time, Miguel has been linked to escape plots, threats to the prison director who was killed, and judges. Recently, as possible hearings regarding his extradition, authorities claimed he could not be found in the federal prison system, but recently, his amparo filed to protect his extradition was denied.
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Meeting "El Chapo's" Mom
Investigators obtained information from a third source suggesting that drug cartels had videos of the president’s sons picking up drug money, records show.
The US law enforcement officers also independently tracked payments from people they believed to be cartel operatives to intermediaries for López Obrador, two of the people familiar with the inquiry said.
At least one of those payments, they said, was made around the same time that Mr. López Obrador traveled to the state of Sinaloa in 2020 and met the mother of the drug lord Joaquín Guzmán Loera, "El Chapo" who is now serving a life sentence in a US federal prison.
At least one of those payments, they said, was made around the same time that Mr. López Obrador traveled to the state of Sinaloa in 2020 and met the mother of the drug lord Joaquín Guzmán Loera, "El Chapo" who is now serving a life sentence in a US federal prison.
2006 Campaign Allegations
Last month’s media reports, including one by ProPublica, about a US inquiry into 2006 campaign donations of which he did not win the election, ignited a firestorm in Mexico.More than a decade ago, a separate investigation led by the DEA unearthed allegations that traffickers had donated millions to Mr. López Obrador’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2006. This inquiry, detailed by three media outlets last month, was closed by the US without charges being brought.
Mr. López Obrador publicly denounced the stories, implying they were aimed at influencing the country’s presidential election in June, in which his protégé, the former Mexico City mayor Claudia Sheinbaum, is leading the race to replace him. He suggested the reports could complicate talks on migration and fentanyl with the U.S. government, and said he considered not receiving President Biden’s homeland security adviser for a planned meeting in the Mexican capital.
“How are we going to be sitting at the table talking about the fight against drugs if they, or one of their institutions, is leaking information and harming me?” Mr. López Obrador said at a regular news conference days after the stories were published.
After President Biden called Mr. López Obrador, calming tensions, the Mexican foreign minister said that the US homeland security adviser told Mexico “that this is a closed issue for them.”
Mr. López Obrador publicly denounced the stories, implying they were aimed at influencing the country’s presidential election in June, in which his protégé, the former Mexico City mayor Claudia Sheinbaum, is leading the race to replace him. He suggested the reports could complicate talks on migration and fentanyl with the U.S. government, and said he considered not receiving President Biden’s homeland security adviser for a planned meeting in the Mexican capital.
“How are we going to be sitting at the table talking about the fight against drugs if they, or one of their institutions, is leaking information and harming me?” Mr. López Obrador said at a regular news conference days after the stories were published.
After President Biden called Mr. López Obrador, calming tensions, the Mexican foreign minister said that the US homeland security adviser told Mexico “that this is a closed issue for them.”
The Biden administration has an enormous stake in managing its relationship with Mr. López Obrador, who is seen as indispensable to contain a surge in migration that has become one of the most contentious issues in American politics. It is a major concern for voters in the lead-up to the presidential election this fall.
Mexico is also the top American trading partner following a decline in trade with China over political and economic issues. Mexico is also the single most important collaborator in US efforts to slow illicit drugs like fentanyl from crossing the southern border.
Mexico is also the top American trading partner following a decline in trade with China over political and economic issues. Mexico is also the single most important collaborator in US efforts to slow illicit drugs like fentanyl from crossing the southern border.
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AMLO's Response
López Obrador denied all the allegations made by the informants. AMLO rejected the accusations against him and assured that it is false information, given that the corresponding proof and evidence of the alleged payments that his collaborators (whose identity is unknown) received from drug trafficking have not been presented.Despite this, López Obrador indicated that this would not affect the relationship between Mexico and the United States.
"We are obliged to maintain good relations with the United States government because we are partners, the main economic commercial partners, because we have a neighborhood, a border of 3,180 kilometers because 40 million Mexicans live there and because politics was invented among other things to avoid confrontation. Of course, we are going to continue maintaining a good relationship," he stated.
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White House Response
“As it seems to me that the Department of Justice has made clear, President López Obrador is not being investigated. It would be the responsibility of the Department of Justice to review any allegations,” John Kirby said.
While efforts to scrutinize Mr. López Obrador’s allies are no longer active, the revelation that US law enforcement officials were quietly examining corruption allegations against them could itself be damaging.
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The Biden administration has handled Mr. López Obrador with great care, avoiding public criticism in favor of repeatedly dispatching top officials to Mexico City to meet with him and press for sustained migration enforcement in private.
The decision to let the recent inquiry go dormant, the people familiar with it said, was caused in large part by the breakdown of a separate, highly contentious corruption case. In the closing months of the Trump administration in 2020, US officials brought charges against Gen. Salvador Cienfuegos Zepeda, who served as Mexico’s defense secretary from 2012 to 2018.
The decision to let the recent inquiry go dormant, the people familiar with it said, was caused in large part by the breakdown of a separate, highly contentious corruption case. In the closing months of the Trump administration in 2020, US officials brought charges against Gen. Salvador Cienfuegos Zepeda, who served as Mexico’s defense secretary from 2012 to 2018.
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US Prosecution of Political Figures
US law enforcement agencies have jurisdiction to investigate and bring charges against officials of other countries if they can show a connection to narcotics moving across the border into the United States.
While it is uncommon for American DEA agents to pursue top foreign officials, it is not unprecedented: The drug trial of Juan Orlando Hernández, the former president of Honduras, began this week in Federal District Court in Manhattan. It is alleged that at least $1 million was paid to the Central American President by "El Chapo."
Federal prosecutors in New York also secured a corruption conviction last year against Genaro García Luna, Mexico’s former public security secretary, persuading a jury that he had taken millions of dollars in bribes from violent cartels he was meant to be pursuing.
For the United States, pursuing criminal charges against top foreign officials is a rare and complicated undertaking. Building a legal case against Mr. López Obrador would be particularly challenging. The last time the United States filed criminal charges against a top Mexican official, it ultimately dropped them after his arrest caused a diplomatic rift with Mexico.
In a federal indictment, unsealed in New York after a multiyear investigation named “Operation Padrino,” prosecutors accused General Cienfuegos of using the powers of his office to help a violent criminal group called the H-2 Cartel to conduct its drug trafficking operations.
His arrest at the Los Angeles airport provoked a furor within the Mexican government, particularly among the leaders of the country’s armed forces, which have assumed greater responsibilities and power under Mr. López Obrador.
The president said the charges were “fabricated” and his administration released more than 700 pages of communications intercepted by U.S. agents that purported to show criminal activity but were cast as inconclusive.
The DEA, which already had a checkered history as a protagonist in a drug war seen as bloody and futile, suffered a tremendous blow to its relationship with the Mexican government.
Just weeks after the arrest took place, the US Justice Department, under heavy pressure from Mr. López Obrador, reversed itself and dismissed the indictment, sending General Cienfuegos back to Mexico.
The episode not only damaged longtime security arrangements between the two countries but also left a deep impression on law enforcement officers north of the border, many of whom saw the failed case as a cautionary tale about undertaking similar efforts against other high-ranking Mexican officials.
His arrest at the Los Angeles airport provoked a furor within the Mexican government, particularly among the leaders of the country’s armed forces, which have assumed greater responsibilities and power under Mr. López Obrador.
The president said the charges were “fabricated” and his administration released more than 700 pages of communications intercepted by U.S. agents that purported to show criminal activity but were cast as inconclusive.
The DEA, which already had a checkered history as a protagonist in a drug war seen as bloody and futile, suffered a tremendous blow to its relationship with the Mexican government.
Just weeks after the arrest took place, the US Justice Department, under heavy pressure from Mr. López Obrador, reversed itself and dismissed the indictment, sending General Cienfuegos back to Mexico.
The episode not only damaged longtime security arrangements between the two countries but also left a deep impression on law enforcement officers north of the border, many of whom saw the failed case as a cautionary tale about undertaking similar efforts against other high-ranking Mexican officials.
Red flag words for me in this article that make me question their credibility. "Potential" "allegations" "possible" "suggesting"...
ReplyDeleteThat shows responsibility on their side because they're not hurling unsupported claims; furthermore, you have to take into account contextual considerations instead of boldly *asserting* "red flags".
Deleteyeah casually saying furthermore is a ridiculously red flag & neither further nor more just 1 sentence? common nyt reader L. sources allege the sky is blue
DeleteUnless proven in a court of some kind, or stated by the person being accused...all language must include alleged/accused/etc. Same with what we write unless it is with zero doubt. It is a legal issue......What the NYT is stating and writing about isnt a 'fact that AMLO recieved bribes' but that US authorities have investigated him and the claims from the informant but nothing proved or disproved, it was ended and no further investigations took place...likely reasons for that being the backlash recieved for Cienfuegos and needing to mend the relationship between the two countries it may (red flag word again) have been dropped out of better interest of US/Mexico relations.
DeleteAlso, 10:37. The sky is not blue at all.
1:41 está expresado correctamente
DeleteSo what was the point of this article if nothing was proven and the government didn't pursue anything?
Delete"Much of the information collected by US officials came from informants whose accounts can be difficult to corroborate and sometimes end up being incorrect...."
This article brings up the 2006 election but again, who actually won and who was found guilty of corruption? It's probably likely that the candidate that was being referred to was Calderon and just as Garcia Luna double crossed The Beltran Leyva Cartel, maybe, just maybe the government led the zetas to believe the they had the military support. Judging by the way the NYT is tossing assumptions around, I figure anything is plausible. Ultimately it seems to me like the globalist NYT is stirring up some ashes right before the nationalist candidatehits the ballots.
Wasn't Genaro Garcia Luna convicted only by the testimony of informants?
DeleteAgreed reason to look into further, but 9 out 10 times in NY Times what's stated is not just true but seriously understated to appear impartial.
Delete10:37 Irrelevant.
Delete9:12
DeleteThe point was to report what happened, is that difficult to understand?
328 apparently it is hard to understand based on the comments, yours included. The article didn't report what you want to think happened. It reported claims on something that wasn't proven. The U.S government decided NOT TO PURSUE the investigation because of the lack and credibility of the evidence. How hard is that to understand.
DeleteSo, if I’m understanding this article correctly, they don’t have any actual solid proof that AMLO has ties to cartels. The information about the El Mayo accusations are coming from informants whose accounts can be “difficult to corroborate and sometimes end up being incorrect”. The accusations of Z-42 bribing AMLO can be disproven simply by the fact that Z-42 still remains in prison and his amparo was recently denied. There was a case opened by the DEA over a decade ago investigating AMLO’s 2006 campaign, but was closed without charges being brought up before AMLO even ran for Presidency in 2018. And the only accusation that seems to have any foundation, is the fact that AMLO met El Chapo’s mom around the same time that a payment from a “believed” cartel operative was made to an intermediary. Do we even know if AMLO knew about the payment? Because if he did know about the payment, then it would have been incredibly stupid to have met with El Chapo’s mom in public in front of a bunch of cameras the same day the payment was being made.
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DeleteThe article doesn't claim to have solid proof.
Can to please mention ALMO 15 extra times in your comment. Gracias.
Delete@213 you’re either really good at lying to your wife and she’s incredibly stupid, or you can’t understand why we never pressed the issue. He wasn’t cleared by the investigation - so as you search for “holes” to apologize for this criminal, try not to run too hard into the fact that we didn’t clear him. And try harder to understand the politics at play here with our largest trade partner. Exhibit A - the general.
Delete939 he was being investigated in 2006 but the government decided to drop it. Why? If he wasnt the president at that point then what was stopping the gringos. Maybe they didn't pursue the investigation because the Manchurian candidate was Calderon, who was willing to play ball with the U.S and declare the war on drugs all while collecting bribes from Zetas, Beltranes, and Sinaloa.... all in all 939, your mind is made up and you won't see any alternatives other than what you want to believe. Maybe you're the really stupid wife who's being lied to.
DeleteHe should be in the united states already
DeleteEl Kakash
ReplyDeleteDonde estan los que lo defendian que no era corrupto y que la verg....?
ReplyDeleteNo presidente de Mexico es limpio, les gusta las mordidas.
Delete2:56 impeach El mintiroso.
Deleteclaro que lopez obrador va a negar todo,si el nyt hace periodismo de investigacion tiene que tener fuentes dignas,antes de publicar algo,tengo entendido que uno de los hijos del presidente vivia en un palacio en houston ya regreso como rata a mexico.......extrano no.......o que.........para ayudar en la campana politica lo puedes hacer pagando la publicidad,y de miles otras formas pero seguro que el presidente es corrupto.............
ReplyDeleteOh yeah just how the nyt said tried to disregard the facts about Bidens Laptop Contents. Or what about the time the Times reported that Donald Trumps campaingn had contact with Russian Intelligence Officials and even the FBI said that was fake, yet the NYT refused to retract their statements. Or in 2002 when the NYT reported that Hussein had or was acquiring WOMD and ended up being completely fake. Yeah lets really trust the journalism coming out of the Times.
Delete5:49 Yep let's blame the Times of New York, when you find it unfavorable to you. It reported that from persons in Iraq at the time were giving false information.
Deletejust like they are doing now,giving fake info about AMLO?
Delete2006 recibio apoyo de Gregorio Sauceda Gamboa "Don Goyo/Metro 2/Caramuela"
ReplyDeleteOye toon, como sabes o como escuchastes esto?
DeleteYo no sabia que Goyo tenia plata asi.
Ando buscando la nota y si se movio mucho ese dato en Escolar.net y La Vida Mafiosa
Delete@Toon - I thought those allegations were between Caramuela - Cabeza de Vaca in the 2004 Reynosa campaign.
Deletehttps://www.primeraplanadigital.com.mx/revelan-narcopago-a-senador-del-pan/
Do you have a source for the AMLO-Caramuela connection? Gracias y saludos.
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DeleteExactamente lo que uo sabia con Goyo tambien.
Yo nomas avia oida en varios partes que goyo tenia conneccion bien firme con Cabeza.
Que Karis su hermano le daba la plata a en hoteles de reynosa...
Nunca abia oida de la connecion de Goyo directamente a Amlo...
Goyo al ver que Tomás Y. no iba a ser presidenciable y ver que el PRD era fuerte en el Sur opto por apoyar con votos y ciertos donativos (que no es lo mismo que Financiar una Campaña Presidencial).
DeleteLo de Cabeza de Vaca fue slgo meramente fortuito el que ganara Cabeza al final les costó caro a él, pues despues deo levanton Cabeza de Vaca te agarro odio a los Metros Viejos
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DeleteSi cabeza no les sirvio tanto
Hmm interesante que odiaba a los metros
Supuestamente a Goyo lo entregaron por su adiccion al perico y a la vez por que estaba enfermo de cancer. Y pues ya que
Si se que lazca Z3 le caia muy mal a Goyo por coco y que no manejaba bien su plaza y negocio
Al Gringo como en el 03-4 se comenze a oir que manejaba muy bien sus cosas.
Pues Gringo mike trbajaba pa Hummer
Gracias Too
Andres Manuel Lopez es un narco presidente
ReplyDeletePinchie Narco president.
DeleteDon't mess with my boy ALMO!
ReplyDeleteHe is not a boy, he is a Grampa.
DeleteCarlos Slim, the Mexican Billionaire and at one point, the richest man in the world, is the biggest share holder of the New York Times. He's also a globalist. Just recently Carlos Slim criticized AMLO for using the military for the construction of a lot of the national projects instead of using private companies, along with other things. During AMLO's daily press conferences he responded to Slim's opinions and a week later we get this article from the New York Times claiming they have access to an overwhelming amount of nonsense that they have no evidence for, just hearsay from unreliable sources who they don't even know.... cross reference the info, I encourage those who disagree to challenge it.
ReplyDeleteCarlos Slim, Globalist, who believes all of the national projects should have gone to international private companies.
AMLO, nationalist, who believes in using the Mexican Military to complete these national projects and prevent the country from falling into debt with foreigners.
That’s why they doing this show right now because they know the corrupt ones are going to lose the elections again! People need to make their own research and see what’s going on. Don’t believe what this paid news tell you!
DeleteThere is no good president, but AMLO seems like a good man to me.Of course, he is also a man of flesh and blood, eager for fame, power and money. But if it is true, that he did not want to let foreign private companies earn pesos and withdraw through banks by laundering money, that cannot be argued against him. It's a very good move that Mexican army do that work. With this move he save lot off money for MX. Carlos Slim is nothing but thirsty Billioner...It's very dangerous playing game with Cartel's. Plata o plomo :-(
DeleteThey will not save one single peso by using the military! Just mexican generals cashing in!
Delete8:00 obviously doesn’t know the history of that party. 🤦🏻♂️
DeleteAhuevo y los gringos les arde el cul..
DeleteWhat the hell does the US care about that? There’s Chinese spies active in the US and I’m sure Russian too and they won’t do shit about it.
ReplyDeleteExactly
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DeleteI thought you were just being paranoid until I found a concealed listening device in my egg fu young..
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Amazon Bezos owns New York Times. The informants on Mayo was his own son. El raton probably snitched on AMLO that's why he was released the 1st. time. There is a lot of evidence with former Mex presidents taking bribes, AMLO is no different, no wonder z40 extradition was denied.
ReplyDeleteLike Trump and the Mueller report
Deleteno bezos owns the washington post the nyt is jewelry but both cities are flooded with migrants & they’re about to campaign about it without ever saying ‘the border’. they can’t say ‘tap in’ or ‘hmp’ to any info and sources that know how bs this story is and have a better one so we get stuff like this
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DeleteTry Harry Winston or Tiffany's for the most dazzling jewelry in new York..
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I dunno nuthin' bout no Mueller report, but your boy the Donald has got to come up with $500,000,000 bail quick-like!..
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Where are all the Cayoteros, ALMO has been a very very naughty man. Just he would always say he would clean corruption, wonder how he will be washing his hands on this one.
ReplyDeleteThis is insulting to the integrity and honesty of AMLO, who only has a heartfelt goal to help the country of Mexico.
ReplyDeleteHeartfelt goal my ass.
DeleteAMLO es engañabobos, bobo.
Delete@7:54 and 11:11. Explain.Elaborate.
Delete11:28
DeleteCayotero in da house.
El aplaudidor que vive de "becas".
Delete7:11
Ojalá un día puedas subir de nivel
I see. Insults only: dealing with teenagers.
Delete6.5 tons of meth busted in eagle pass bridge.
ReplyDelete3 inches of rain forecast at Eagle mountain.
DeleteOn another topic 7 missing military personnel of a beach around Ensenada BC!! Trying to be Seals!!🌊🌊🌊
ReplyDeleteOn another Topic..
Deletemy car is making rattling noises, I hope nothing is loose.
That makes no sense.
DeleteIf your car is making rattling noises, OF COURSE something is loose..
DeleteGet it to the shop, see what they say, then let us know what the deal is, people are depending on you..
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DeleteHow did you know I took it to the mechanic, it was a loose worn out motor mount on my Honda, $240 dollars later..no more rattling noises.
11:01 start saving your cash because you're going to have to replace the other motor mounts
DeleteSome neighbors don't like their neighbors to get better little by little.
ReplyDeleteA few things for AMLO apologists - I’m sure you believe in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy as well. No President is going to meet DIRECTLY with these people so the absence of such is like to sun rising. Now ask yourself - why has Mayo remained untouchable for so long? Why no direct action against “drug lords?” Why did Chapo’s sons operate with impunity until the US brought too much pressure to bear? Hugs not bullets is cover, not a strategy. Can you imagine the US or any other country openly surrendering vast territories of its country to criminal elements as part of some “strategy?” Mexico is a failed State with a criminal government.
ReplyDeleteOf course AMLO the dirtbag is on the take. That’s why he doesn’t allow the cartels to be dismantled.
ReplyDeletepropublica reports caught em off guard & nyc is in shambles rn lmao they’re grasping for anything. mx politicians have so many opportunities to do so many hilarious things
ReplyDeletethat movie about tx and cali teaming up is getting realistic now nyc and the nyt is drunk for this
ReplyDeleteALMOs son was video taped awhile back but a news crew receiving envelopes full of 💰 money, ALMO got upset and belittled the news company, the next day the news offices were firebombed.
ReplyDeleteAMLO keeps putting reporters who don’t kiss his ass in danger
ReplyDeleteChill tf out! That reporter was no way in harm because first of all that wasn’t even her personal phone number! That was Agency, means of manipulation. Keep making yourself look smart by reading BB
Delete246, exactly, it was a company phone but they wanna push a different story even on that.
DeleteJust why would the President discuss anyone's phone number at a press conference simply because they published a news article?
DeleteWhat other President of any country in the world is doing that?
Wow I noticed they included the photo, when ALMO, went to pay Chapos mom a visit, during COVID, receiving envelopes with money. Chapos mom did not believe in banks and doing wire transfers.
ReplyDeleteAmlo privatized Mexicos reasources and now the Yankees want to start investigating him and start the negative propaganda like they have with the Middle East leaders and Putin that don’t go along the us government’s orders: what about the past presidents of mx who were a lot worse but wait those knelt down to foreign interests
ReplyDeleteExactlty. This article mentions some 18 year old stale ass information on AMLO that not even the U.S moved forward with because it was not reliable, but who actually won the 2006 elections? Calderon. Now who actually was proven to be involved with the cartels? GGL and Calderon. Let's not forgot, Calderon put Jesus Lemus behind bars for exposing his connections to La Familia Michoacana.
DeleteSorry to inform you but Papa ALMO has dirty hands. He is no Angel.
Delete@442 you’re either dumb or obtuse. He wasn’t cleared and the US did not fail to move forward because the information was unreliable. What part of your A did you pull that from? It’s clear from reading between the lines that we didn’t pursue this for diplomatic reasons. If you believe he’s clean you just still get quarters under your pillow when you lose a tooth.
Delete5:23 right and the dirts us government is so clean themselves fabricating a proxy war in the Middle East, trying to push Russia around by having bases in Ukraine. Sending weapons to Mexico and training mercenaries also in Central America back in the 70s/80s
DeleteLol 6:39 USA does not have bases in Ukraine, get your head out of the sand.
Delete538 what you're referring to is "fast forward" to 2020. AMLO made the documents provided by the U.S against Cienfuegos public for anyone to look at. Chivis, god rest her soul, shared those documents on this platform. Have you ever taken a look at them? I have, there wasn't shit in them that proved Cienfuegos was "El Padrino" it was all based on a hunch and the DEA's incompetence resulted in the strained relationship between Mexico and that agency, not the 2006 election. That's what this article is referencing.
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DeleteChivis is still alive I don't know why so many people think 😭, that including you. I do commend her for volunteering on BB, while married to a business man at that time juggling with care of siblings, including the neighbors, one of the kids had a terminal illness, people did not hear clearly, thinking it was her. She may be still touching base with Buggs and the older crew.
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8:05 true but they tried to and are finding Ukraine. Like Putin said, don’t they have better things to do and worrry about in usa
DeleteI forgot which book it was, but Z-40 was quoted years ago saying "if our guy wins, the world is ours" ... That guy turned out be AMLO.
ReplyDeleteNope that was Tony Montana of Scarface,that said that.
DeleteMaking BS now huh 😂
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DeleteI dont think I have ever even heard 40 say much in general on bere overall ever.
Guess thise Zs are pretty quiet in general
You hear a lot from sinaloa/guadalajara peepz
But not these
You have a country in utter turmoil because of the drug cartels and the president is shaking hands with the mother of the most famous cartel leader.. What kind of message does this send to those fighting these cartels? or to the victims?
ReplyDeleteClearly their lives do not outweigh those of Chapo and his family.
Of course not, but she is not guilty of her sons sins. He handled that like a true diplomat... now her grandson Ovidio is a whole different story. He was caught and extradited. Her other grandkids are hiding like rats. As far as the rest of the cartel, they've been getting hit left and right.
DeleteI bet she has lived well off that blood money her family has killed for. Bet she didn’t bat an eye about spending it.
DeleteOnce Trump is elected president we will reopen this investigation and it will be done thoroughly and properly.
ReplyDelete40 will never be extradiated to the US never pay for agent Zapatas death #Viva Nuestro Narco Presidente AMLO
ReplyDeleteHe’ll pay for it next life let’s see him get away from that
DeleteDoxed? I call that being transparent. She came to play ball and got butt hurt when ball wasn't played to her liking. "Let he who is without sin throweth the first rock and I shall smoketh it"
ReplyDeleteHaving lived in Venezuela under the junta I find it incredible that South America and Central America, especially Mexico, is free from cartel corruption at the highest levels! Suspend the investigation? Eh? I think AMLO has to ask the Sinaloa permission before he even takes a crap! I know Joe Biden does! Even my road trips from LA down to Mazatlan in the 1980s was non stop bribes! Aduana y Policia y los Federales! I must have paid out hundreds USD in bribes having a California plate on my car. The corruption is rampant on the street level, but not at the AMLO level? Aye que lastima idiotos! LOL!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteThe Democrat party should charge the Republican party compensation for babysitting.
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DeleteWhere have you been, ALMO is in bed with the Cartels, bribes are going to help him live lavishly, after he leaves office.
So you’re telling me that the allegations with the Sinaloa Cartel didn’t work now they bring Los Zetas. What next?
ReplyDeletegood lord lmao if only you knew
DeleteShit country has a shit president. Who would know ? Such a shocker. Reason this never came out earlier is because it’s not a scoop. Everyone knows ANY president of Mexico is by definition corrupt. His entire country and culture is corrupt what else do you expect?
ReplyDeleteUS is not greener as they say. First world country full of crime and drug addicts. Evil deep state government that is always messing with other countries and keeping its population in conflict
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DeleteMust build big beautiful wall to keep disgruntled citizens from trying to escape U.S..
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9:30 you have said it 💯 percent, any sitting president of Mexico of the past or present will be involved with the criminal world. And will do everything possible to hide it
DeletePutos gringos, drogos e hipócritas, !Viva AMLO!, sob's
ReplyDeleteALMO es curupto .
DeleteIf we think that is bad? Look at USA
ReplyDeleteY’all talk about a reporter making fake notes and getting “doxxed” but what about a few years back when the whole US media and Mexican media leaked and expose the house where of one of AMLO son lived in? They put a whole family at risk but we crying over one person who wasn’t even doxxed! 🤦♂️
ReplyDeleteYep Hill Billy Joe.
Delete"..and at dinner time we stopped and walked back to the house to eat
Deletemama hollered out the back door y'all remember to wipe your feet
Then she said I got some news this morning from Choctaw ridge
Today Billy Jo McAllister jumped off the Tallahatchie bridge "
.. Bobbi Gentry
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Aquí en mexico Solo los tacuaches, huevones,flojos y muertos de hambre resentidos, quieren al cacas obrador !
ReplyDeleteOsea que el 70% de la poblacion son tacuaches, huevones, flojos, Muertos de hambre resentidos. Orale, chido wey.
Delete10:02 el gobierno todo lo controla en México y tu crees que esas encuestas no son a modo controladas jajaja 😆
Delete10:02 eres el tipo se gente que a sus 45 siguen creyendo que los reyes magos traen regalos 🎁
Delete10:02 just look what the president thinks of himself “ Above the law is the moral authority of the President.-AMLO”
Deletehttps://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/global-leader-approval
DeleteFYI, Morningconsult is an American based company that the New York Times uses for polling services.
Man after reading all this it sums it up that Obrador is a Narco President. No wonder he lets Cartels run rampant.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure Ovidio, Menchos wife, la Vaca, El Marro, El Vaquero, El Cazador, RCQ, RCQ's nephew, El Durango, El Omega and the rest of the countless number of criminals who have been captured, killed or extradited would disagree with you.
DeleteEse Hablador que retiree, con El dinero que ya tirne.
DeleteObrador is fuming that NY Times opened up an article and is bad mouthing the reporter.
DeleteFunny how people act, when the truth comes out.
😂 LoL he wants the US to bend over and kiss his azz, for leaking this information.
ReplyDeleteGuns come into Mexico, no one is checking for contraband, at the border check point going South ,SEDENA was quick to say how many are coming in..let's blame the USA
DeleteALMO also blames the gun manufacturers.
Now he wants USA to apologize for the wiki leaks found about him, by a New York article. Unbelievable.
What is interesting with the NYT article is why it was dropped into the public eye right now, and who is behind it. Who benefits from discrediting AMLO in the US right now? It is so obvious this is a shit package, true or not, that it is almost blatantly bad journalism on behalf of a well-credited institution like NYT not at least suggesting the mind behind it. Why did this slip through the editor's desk? Was it an internal revenge due to AMLO's disregard for the safety of journalism and openly stating that number? No matter the reason, that article does not live up to standards.
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New York Times is not the only one that got the leaks, 3 other good news outlets got it too. Blaming one for the truth is hogwash.
DeleteWhite House national security council spokesman, John Kirby said, “there is no investigation into President Lopez Obrador”
Deletehttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/23/us-investigation-amlo-mexico-cartel
Basically discrediting the NYT. Not that the article held any water, if you read it, it's not actually based on facts but the authors opinions and stale information that wasn't credible to begin with... I figure the authors intentions were to target much of the same audience found here, that focuses on the title rather than the content.
Anyway, for the two claiming AMLO wants the U.S to bend over and kiss his ass for leaking the information, it seems like he achieved it, given that a clarification statement was given by a U.S official days after the article was written. 😅😅😅
Socal's article goes into detail about that exact quote and explains what Kirby actually said.
DeleteSpoiler alert, it's not discrediting what the NYT said and you misunderstood the quote.
Attempt to read the article, please.
"Discrediting" "clarifying" "setting the record straight" "potatoe" "potato" its all semantics and left to the readers discretion. You'll interpret the article as you want, as will I. I agree to disagree.
Delete@1229, the NYT is reporting, not doing the investigation. US authorities “close” investigations when the basis to investigate is unfounded - they don’t get shelved except for political reasons or waiting for more evidence. The US isn’t going to openly target the president of its biggest trade partner bc our two countries require cooperation. How we have or have not used this investigation and/or where it goes if anywhere is unknowable until it’s known. Even if there were a credible leak, you’d “discredit” it. It’s why institutions and governments can lie with impunity - bc gullible people believe it. You don’t have to be a nutty conspiracy theorist to understand “hugs not bullets” is not a viable national security strategy, but I guess you do kind of have to live here to understand how integrated organized crime is in this country - a level of presence and integration that cannot exist without complicity at the highest levels of government.
DeleteI thought ELMO was a good president, he is just like the other Presidents, take in dirty money while they can.🧐
ReplyDeleteI heard a rumor he bought his son a Mansion in Texas, that's makes you think where he gets that type of money.
DeleteMansions are expensive.
I heard a rumor he goes to Tijuana, with his entourage to Adelitas night club and loves strip dances.
Delete8:42. Good try, but Adelita's has been closed for ages.🥺
Delete4:20 are you actually in Tijuana?
DeleteIf true they (Adelitas), closed down then is there now? I remember going 8 years ago, when I to get Dental work. I had stopped going to TJ, since it got dangerous.
Why would Adelitas be closed it was always doing good business, when I went there, they mostly played Ranchera music 🎵🎶.
Delete909, 920 Went to get Dental work (wink wink) 😉 and you haven't gotten your teeth checked out for the past 8 years. You a dirty mofo, in more ways than one buddy. Why you sound so concerned cause a brothel got shut down bro.🤔🤨
Delete9:47 Life did not stop because the person stopped going for dental work in TJ, he just has to pay full price at the US dental places or if his company has dental insurance even better. I too used to go to the zona Rosa, enjoy the music the tacos at the stands, and I took miss Adelitas. One side thinking gets you nowhere.
DeleteHearst: Do you have any theories regarding the article? I would love to read one of your in-depth analyses. The timing and what is not being said, is very intriguing. It is a typical pretend balanced article. Both sides are seemingly heard, but the actual source is not examined. It is absolutely plausible that AMLO, giving his and Mexico's history and previous investigations into his family ties to cartels, are corrupt, but that would hardly surprise anyone. So what is the source trying to achieve? Is someone trying to sever US-Mexican relations? Is it actually the Biden administration someone is trying to hurt? Are we talking MAGA, Republicans, China, Russians, some cartels, or is it coming from the US administration, or factions of it, adjusting Mexican policy or respond to some stalemate situation between Mexico/US. Thank you SoCal for bringing it to my attention.
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You raise a bunch of legitimate and important questions, Bjeff.
DeleteI know this may sound like a cop out but... I know that I don't know enough to make any kind of worthwhile or meaningful commentary on this right now.
Truth be told, I wouldn't trust anybody who claims they could.
This seems like of those things that will make sense a year from now, in hindsight, but is entirely impossible to untangle at the moment.
It also might have been a slow day at the office and the NYT needed something to fill space.
DeleteHEARST you need to untangle your hair.😂
DeleteThe NYT tried to provide everything on the accusations and putting out the question of the US/DEA investigating it. Which in its own right is a pretty big deal politically, even though there have been investigations and arrests of several former presidents of Central and South American countries.
DeleteWhat we dont know and what maybe the article is trying to find out, is why were the investigations dropped? Seemingly out of not wanting to rock the boat with relations. Or was it proved to not be true? But then what of the informants? That have also been used to convict Luna, Chapo...etc. Saying they are not telling the truth and the payoffs didnt happen puts that in jeopardy.
If all what was said and investigated was true. It does not always mean AMLO himself agreed to any deal, or knowingly looked away too. Several US presidents have had accusations of attempts of people around them getting illegal campaign donations.
There have been scammers/con artists claiming they could get the money to the President/a deal. Some that are legitimately close to AMLO, could be taking advantage of that and accepting bribes/lying. Or many have turned a blind eye, wouldnt make or promise any deals but dont want to 'piss off' big donors with interests.
This being his last year in office, with no re elections. He is in 'legacy preservation mode.' And people may be leaking info/digging for dirt and finding a past investigation that wasnt revealed.
ALMO being caught with his hand in the cookie jar, I know what he can do to distract attention.
ReplyDelete1. Request to have an investigation of who actually killed Collisio in Tijuana.
2. Have a special committee on finding out where did the 43 students go.
3. Ask Spain to forgive the war 500 years ago.
4. Investigate how ambushed the 12 police officer s in Michoacan.
5. Coupakabras in Chiapas.
Just like Cienfuegos will keep his ass in México out of fear of being extradited from another country he visits that has an extradition treaty and diplomatic relations with the USA, these revelations were "warning shots" to AMLO about prior investigations conducted against him for corruption. Being the current presidente, the USA can't accuse him of those crimes. It would be undiplomatic. He lost in 2006 and 2012. More information about those campaigns?
ReplyDeleteI'll call it right now, he won't step out of México when his presidential term ends. Can't risk it now even though he wasn't going to go anywhere besides Cuba and Venezuela. Non confrontation against murderous criminal organizations AKA "Abrazos no Balazos", that was the plan since the beginning. How could he safely remain in México enjoying his hundreds of millions of dollars knowing he had captured, killed or extradited extremely dangerous and powerful criminals who control organizations with a national presence and international contacts. Can't enjoy that money if you're inert. It was never going to happen.
Reynaldo Zambada testified if I remember correctly during Chapos trial that he gave large sums of money to Gabriel Regino, a close collaborator of AMLO. Reynaldo is a "free" man in the USA waiting to be called as a government witness whenever he's required, the same as Jesus Vicente and "El Gordo" Ismael. Surprises?
Just when ALMO thought his money made under the table, it has been exposed. I am sure he will enjoy his wealth in Cuba or Venezuela.
Delete8:24 he will go to England or Spain his son already goes to high school over there
Delete9.54 I don't think they will want him in Spain. He tried to head the leadership of Spain to kneel down and apologize to the war that occured 500 years ago.
DeletePlus he nags alot.🤣💰💰💰
11:54 you’re right I only said it because ex president Peña nieto lives in Spain and salinas de gortari lives in england
DeleteThey don't want ALMO in Spain whatsoever.
Delete1046 moving to the extranjero is for the "vende patrias?. Salinas moved to Ireland after selling mexicos minerals to foreign interest. Cedillo moved to the U.S after selling the railroads. Fox tried selling Latin America and failed so his ass had to stay home. Calderon sold Mexicos energy sector to the Spanish and now he lives in Spain along with Peña Nieto who just so happend to sell out Mexicos oil...
Delete9:24 🤔 what has almo milked Mexico of..... I heard he left unfinished construction projects, where he pocketed kickbacks.
Delete939. Can you name those projects? The ones I know of are close to completion, if not completed. Calderon and Peña nieto left uncompleted airports, roads, dams and hospitals all over Mexico. Abandoned for 15 years, and AMLO stepped in and repurposed or completed those projects with the help of the mexican army to reduce the final cost.
DeleteAs far as AMLO "milking" Mexico of any industries, I think its been the opposite. He bought back 6 power plants back from the Spanish company Iberdola and constructed a solar park in Baja were enery will be sold to the U.S. Got dos bocas and several oil refineries back and running and bought the deer park refinery in Texas so that Mexico does not depend on foreign oil. He Nationalized the Lithium deposits in Sonora so that foreign interest would not take over more of mexicos mineral industry. The construction of the Isthmus of Tehuantepec railroad will now replace the Panama Canal as the top trade route... these are all Nationalized projects that were funded by the mexican government not foreign interest. They were built with the help of the mexican army not some foreign country, so explain what kickbacks you're referring to.
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DeleteHe is not really an honest president, deceived so many people.
1245, can you explain how? Did he decieve the criminals by promising abrazos and hit them with balazos and extraditions instead? Maybe cause he promise to prosecute previous presidents but didn't follow through because of political retribution. You know he would've been considered a dictator if he would've gone after the past presidents. 🤔 who was deceived? I'm trying to think, was it the foreign companies who exploited Mexico for its resources until AMLO through a monkey wrench in their gears? Maybe the U.S government who has had a strained relationship after AMLO put his foot down, stopped bending over for the gringos like the past presidentes vendidos, and told them "you can no longer barge into my house without my permission"? WHO DID HE DECEIVE?
DeleteOh brother don't tell me the president of Mexico got caught with his pants down.
ReplyDeleteDon't you worry if Trump gets elected again to he is going to F-up USA.
DeleteHe will fire most of his staff, when disagree with him, he might have everyday meetings like Obrador does.
I sure as hell know I am not voting for him. He is a big liar.
He can sell snake oil and tell you it cures Cancer.
What's this S#@$t ELMO leaked the reporters phone number and got taken down from YouTube. Is Elmo butthurt!
ReplyDeleteWhat's this S#@$t ELMO leaked the reporters phone number and got taken down from YouTube. Is Elmo butthurt!
ReplyDeleteThat's his bullying behavior.
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