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This article was translated and reposted from RIODOCE
AUGUST 25, 2024
The kingpin would face harsher charges if transferred to the Brooklyn courthouse in New York, where El Chapo was sentenced.
If transferred to New York, Ismael el Mayo Zambada would have to cede an estimated $14 billion and hope that prosecutors would not be so severe in charging him with trafficking fentanyl, a synthetic opiate that in 2021 caused the deaths of more than 105,000 addicts in the United States.
That would be one of the reasons why the defense opposes Zambada Garcia's transfer to New York, and that he would instead face justice in a court in the Western District of Texas, which is currently hearing his case, and where it is not clear whether the drug lord would have a similar amount confiscated, and he certainly does not face charges for fentanyl trafficking, although he does face charges of murder, kidnapping, drug trafficking, criminal association, money laundering and illegal possession of a firearm.
Another element that the New York court does not have is that he would not face Brian Cogan, one of the fiercest judges in the United States, who sentenced Joaquín el Chapo Guzmán to life imprisonment plus an additional 30 years during the so-called trial of the century.
For that reason, Zambada Garcia's defense filed a motion on Friday last week, a day after prosecutors requested his transfer to Brooklyn, that the kingpin not be taken to that district, but be tried in Texas, where he has faced charges since 2012, while in New York he was only charged a few months ago.
“There is no justification for the transfer to be applied as requested, since he does not argue why he should be transferred from the court in Texas, which has an ongoing case against him since April 2012, while the court in New York dates from February 2024,” says Frank Perez, Zambada Garcia's lawyer.
According to Perez, the U.S. Government is inadmissibly seeking to remove his client from the Western District of Texas based on an inadequate and unsubstantiated initial appearance request, without explaining why this decision applies in this particular case, nor citing other cases that establish why they want to transfer him.
“For the foregoing reasons, Mr. Zambada Garcia respectfully requests that the Court dismiss the Government's motion for initial appearance and stay of the speedy trial provisions in Texas,” reads the defense motion.
As noted in docket number 3:12-cr-00849, the indictment includes Chapo Guzman, and 22 other individuals, who allegedly worked as hitmen, commanders and coordinators to traffic drugs to the United States, such as cocaine, marijuana and methamphetamines, and formed a front to fight against the Juarez Cartel, which then had Vicente Carrillo Fuentes, the Viceroy, as its leader.
“The group led by Zambada Garcia and Chapo Guzman, had as its armed wing cells of hitmen known as Gente Nueva, Los Mexicles, Los Dobles A, and Los Artistas Asesinos, who carried out homicides, torture, kidnappings, and all kinds of violent activities in Ciudad Juarez and El Paso Texas, in addition to engaging in all kinds of drug trafficking,” reads the file, filed in a federal court in the Western District of Texas.
Unlike the case filed in New York, where only Zambada Garcia is charged, in the Texas case the indictment is a joint indictment, which makes the sentence less severe because there are 24 defendants, and all of them played an undetermined role.
In both courts Zambada Garcia could face the death penalty, if so requested by prosecutors, although according to experts it is unlikely to happen, because of the age of the defendant, because, although he faces murder charges, it is not seen that he could be sentenced to death for that charge, but for drug trafficking, mainly for trafficking and manufacture of fentanyl.
Other charges that Mayo will face in Brooklyn court include racketeering, conspiracy to commit murder, money laundering and various drug trafficking offenses, including trafficking cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine into the United States.
Until last year, the DEA had only charged Los Chapitos, as the only criminal group to traffic fentanyl, until, in February of this year, it included Zambada Garcia in the indictment. The New York court assures that the drug lord amassed billions of dollars in profits, and therefore estimates that he must pay 14 billion dollars to repair the damage done to US society.
Article published on August 25, 2024 in issue 1126 of the weekly Ríodoce.
sorry everyone the right amount is $14 billion dollars****
ReplyDeleteMe los gasto comprando un caballo diría el del sombrero de lado.
Delete11:45 mas bien se lo gastaba en perico y por eso le quedo la nariz de lado 🤣
DeleteWhy is the U.S always wanting things ugh! Se pasan de verduras los gabachos.
ReplyDelete748 they really dont care nor do they want MZ assets its a blanket amount so they can just seize anything remotely tied to MZ.
DeleteRelax Spanglish eat your verduras.
DeleteYou eat your verduras mi amigo gabacho.
DeleteThey gotta aid Israel and Ukraine with someones money
DeleteThe US wants justice for what he did. So do the families of the people that his drugs killed.
DeleteThey also want all his money.
Most of Those junkie were killed by their own doings. The families probably didn’t give a damn about them when they were alive.
Delete9:36 It's called taxes. No the billions of dollars seized will likely go directly to the department to better fund agents in the war on drugs, like tanks and drones and stuff to go after the narcos.
DeleteMean while you living free in the big USA. Bet all you speak is english so dont try to act like a real mexican on here. Haha. Se pasan de verduras cruda
Delete@8:22 AM Ruiz Nayarit guey, los gringos no van usar ese dinero para nada pero ayudar a esos paises que van entrar a guerra.
DeleteThe money seized actually goes to the dea and FBI. In NY and all the major cities the HQ’s have mahogany desks and hand made 20k rugs it’s disgusting. The art work and $2000 a month car allowance the top guys get. What kind of car do you need 2k a month for! It’s just greed. If they offer 20 million reward it’s because they plan on getting at least 40 million once arrest is made. The FEDS is the ugliest business for profit
Delete10:54"The US wants justice for what he did. So do the families of the people that his drugs killed."
DeleteLMAO you naive. Nobody forced them to take them. Why don't they focus better on cracking and fixing the cause that drives millions to abuse addictive substances? They need a form of coping mechanism and trust me. The Feds and the elite families love the carteles. They keep the obsolete working class and middle class subdue.
They already stole all of your future and whatever hope your descendants had (which they will never probably be born now btw) with the biggest transfer of wealth of the last millenia.
They need CDS assets to fund whichever nest psyop they will use to further take more freedoms from you and possibly W forcefully euthanize you if you are not profitable enough.
Trust me, at least addicts have choice to die with their poison of choice.
11:39 Love your guns don't kill people, people kill people mentality. Same with drugs right? You forgot to put Trump 2024 somewhere in your comment.
Delete10:54 I agree with everything, except that last sentence.
DeleteAlmost all overdoses are accidental. Very few are intentional suicides. All addicts want is their dope. When you're an addict and going through withdrawl, there is no choice.
Makes since when cds is estimated at about 32 billion dollars A
ReplyDeletesounds a little high I would say about 10 billion. The Media hugely over inflates the true profit margin.
DeleteNot the media think about it hes been around since s the late 70s importing globally i would say 32 billion might be just right
DeleteAnd not only that the legitimate business too 🫣
DeleteCharging him for the deaths of addicts huh. I’m sure they’re old enough to know what they’re doing right? Or are they mentally challenged to not know they can die from drugs?
ReplyDeleteInstead they give addicts clean needles lol
Delete10:46 exactly 💯
DeleteUS are pure hypocrites
dude they disguise it as prescription painkillers .. but it's really fent. you act like ppl should know but how could they? the fault is with the lawmakers more than it's with the victims. they created this illegal market.
DeleteBecause they are buying from a plug instead of a pharmacy
DeleteLegit question: how are they going to get those $14 billion? Are they going after Zambada’s properties and companies he owns or how does that work?
ReplyDeleteThat is a great question
DeleteHe would give it to them in exchange for a lighter sentace which doesn’t make sense cuz he’s 76, the only sentence that would make sense for him is under 10 years and probably more like 5. It’s like if they give him 15 years instead of life, is he really gonna live to be 91? He ain’t handing over shit but they’ll attempt to go after every dollar they can.
DeleteIt gives them the ability to seize whatever is within their legal reach
DeleteWhat they could size won't amount even 5 million USD. It's an unpayable amount and Mayo's fortune obviously never reached that number.
DeleteWon't they get Mayo to contact subordinates and family in Mexico and ask them to send money to the US government? I believe that's how it went down with OCG and the Gulf Cartel anyway.
DeleteHis son forfeited 1.35 bill
DeleteYes there is more money in retail it may seem faster, the risk is also greater along with the cost to operate.
What CDS along with other major players in Mexico who were bringing in 🦜 before Colombia was even relevant. ( Ines Calderon, Felix Cornejo, Neto Fonseca, Negro Durazo, Emilio Q. Payán, Pedro Aviles.)
We’re doing is the equivalent of getting a salary job in corp.
In the same year an hr worker can make more by working more but it’s not guaranteed your also having to work more then a salary employee
Retail = hr worker
Wholesale = salary work
CDS being whole sellers took a salary by getting a set profit per Kilo
They took a smaller cut only it was more consistent also at a lower risk
In all over the decades these guys made more money then your tiny American head can wrap around on.
Feds don’t just make up a number. It’s has to be tangible for it to hold in trial.
Is it even possible slightly chance for us to get that kind of money or what's the point of going after so much money.
ReplyDelete14 Billion, then castrate his child raping ass and throw him in Jail for life!
ReplyDeleteBlame your addiction on someone else lol. Porque se meten chingadera y media y luego ahí andan de punta dedos.
ReplyDeleteThere is actually validity in this. The US has failed entirely to protect legit chronic pain patients, then supported big pharma during the Oxy push and now is back peddling and even admitted they have gone to far with opioid prescription regulations that are causing more people to turn to the street for pain relief and then becoming actually addicted due to lack of professional oversite and dirty drugs increasing their biological dependencia due to higher milligrams than stated, also overdosing of course. In addition there are the chronic pain patients being referred to pain management, which is basically a death sentence, by their longtime doctors who are too afraid to prescribe opioid and lose their license. Many of these people result to suicide or end up wheelchair bound when their bodies give out from unending extreme pain. US big pharma technically did start this with the Oxycontin free for all, and the cartels just saw opportunity where presented and tagged on.
DeleteFinally a sober and knowledgeable opinion. Thank
DeleteThis one ☝️…too many languages and decided speak the truth
DeleteCUBA LIBREEEE!!!! A nuetro compatriota lo vamo a recatar lo Cubano!! Utede Mexicano no pudieron pero nojotro si vamo a poder!!! 🇨🇺🇨🇺🇨🇺🇨🇺🇨🇺
ReplyDeleteCoño. No pueden sacarse de su isla mielda, van andar zacando al Zambada de una carcel americana.
DeleteStupid hyna.
DeleteHis son gave 1B and is in WP. El Senor Zamabada has that wire reward for them. For those saying he and his family are without resources and money are insane. 40+ years of weight, legit businesses all over. He was always more wealthier than Chapo but his style of being el ranchero and a business man didn’t let his ego get the better of him.
ReplyDelete827 you live in a fantasy land
DeleteHaving cash vs having money invested. Maybe you see the diff.
DeleteHis son did not give 1 billion or anywhere even close that. Nor even 1 million I bet.
DeleteIf chino antrax gave a million dollars then these upper heads definitely have it, his charge was as simple as 5 or less kilos, if you’re from California high probability that you’ve drank their milk at a breakfast joint or coffee shop without even knowing it. They have more money then you’ll ever have even in your dreams piglet with an N.
Delete9:28 that is the biggest fish the U.S. government has ever had. The most tenured infamous drug lord to date from Mexico. No one can calculate what his organization has sold in receipts, but it is not out of line to say he didn't sell close to 100 billion. Does he have it all liquid? No, but government calculates a forfeitures for a reason based on assumptions.
Delete1055 fantasy lsnd
DeleteVZ paid a 1.2.billion dollar fine to US govt. Part.of his deal to be in WP. He has confirmed that himself in a court of law while on the stand multiple times. Their is court paperwork on this so dont understand why people believe MZ doesn't have a miserable 14 billion to pay his Tio Sam.
DeleteIf Sicario 006 can pay a cool billion, I'm pretty sure MZ can pay 14..
Delete12:16, he did not pay 1.2 billion you have no proof at all
Delete11:27 there is independent traffickers that are multimillionaires and they move 50-100ks a month. The guys that are moving tons on both sides of the border like MZ for years and years are BILLIONAIRES. Why is it hard to comprehend that MZ was one of the wealthiest drug lords of all time.
DeleteLOL! I imagine them saying 14 billion like Dr. Evil with a pinky finger to the little lip.
ReplyDelete14 billion lmao!!! They getting anything but 15 yrs from him,he’ll be dead in 2/5 yrs
ReplyDeleteSMDH..The saying is so true. two ways out of that drug life DEATH or JAIL!.I wouldn't give the US a penny. He's going to get life anyways. He worked his whole life to give everything up to the US, and now it's all for nothing. SMDH
ReplyDeleteIt’s game over for mayo. The Americans are gonna lock him up so long he’ll want to take his own life.
ReplyDeleteLMAO. Game over? The motherfuckers 78 foo! He played the system and won even when he lost.
Delete1014 he really won by spending his golden years in ADX.
DeleteBottom line is the DOJ will have their way with him and do as they please with this old POS.
ReplyDeletePockets change for guano
ReplyDeleteForfeiture helps with the plea. If we are assuming he didn't turn himself in, if that is true....and the US wants to make a deal, he will have to come up with some money. Not a billion. But something.
ReplyDeleteBut, if the US won't give him deal, and they do him like Chapo...the amount won't matter.
if it's all true, I have to think Mayo can make a deal. He has substantial assets, but like he said in the Proceso interview, the billion dollar talk is "foolishness"
I don’t know why you and others seem to think the money carries weight with the plea. The plea is based upon the relative strength of the gov case and they have an exceedingly high conviction rate by either trial or plea. The money is a given. It’s always the position of the gov that you surrender any and all ill gotten gains AS A CONDITION of any plea. There can be back and forth on what that amount is based upon their investigation and disclosures demanded, but you’re losing your money and if you lied they can rescind the deal.
DeleteBut, getting the actual money makes a difference. Like Chino Antrax, he signed a plea, a cooperation agreement, and as a condition of that plea, and a sign of good faith, wrote the government a check for a million dollars. That goes a long way. It wasn't just a formality. He gave that up.
DeleteThe US will never get even 100m from Chapo or Mayo, unless they make that call. And decide to put some money together. but that order is almost like a fuck you. That's bankrupting someone entirely. Vicente probably gave up something but he never had a billion dollars either. He probably put together something. From what I understood, he was allowed to bring about 400k into the US, to start his new life.
Osiel Cardenas, gave up like 50m. But it wasn't just words on a paper, for a press conference or a press release. Osiels lawyer gathered that money somehow, someway and turned it over. it's not as simple as paying for your sentence, but it's more like honoring the agreement. The US gets it's 50M and a guilty plea, and your extensive cooperation.
of course the Mexican outlets make a loose comparison to paying for your freedom, but it's not that simple. it's a negotiation. Lots of federal offenders, from drugs to white collar give up money and assets to help work out a plea.
Like Chapo, didn't even have a chance to make a deal. They didn't give him that opportunity. If he would have, they could have reached a number, and he would have tried to come up with payment.
The money is not a negotiation. I don’t know where you get your info but you’re just over here spitballing and I just don’t understand people who do that. They do forensic investigations. Is it a hard number? Can’t be with illicit gains. But it’s not directly tied to your sentence - it’s a condition of your plea. Can there be back and forth on what the respective sides believe is real? Yes, but if you lie your deal is done. And by the way, at the end of the day you have no idea what they seized unless you’re reading the seizure documents. Those can be found online in court documents unless it’s sealed. If you haven’t seen or read that - any claims are to be take with a grain of salt. Also, people oddly enough forget that much of the proceeds they read amount go into operating expenses, including losses. The issue is what did they net? What do they own they can be tied to the enterprise. Etc
DeleteAnd again - it doesn’t “help with the plea.” It’s a condition of any plea and a given with conviction. What actually moves the needle with pleas is what you have to offer in terms of information leading to other successful prosecutions. I dated and grew up with a treasury agent - they are better at tracing and finding money and businesses and the financial network than you might believe. Which, by the way, is going to be info he will have to give up to get any deal. And as I said, if he lies… no deal. Anyway, the Feds don’t bring half assed cases. They bring lay-up and dunks - not contested 2 or 3 pointers. When they come, they got you. When they deal it’s for something tangible in return or for expediency. It’s not like a vulnerable state case with risk of a not guilty verdict. IF he gets a deal, it’s going to be predicated upon the amount of useful and desired information - not a dollar amount.
DeleteI think we are essentially saying the same thing. Wouldn't argue with a single point you make, but would say there must be SOMETHING to negotiating that amount, because if they give you one you can pay vs one you can never pay.....there has to be something there. Think they easily could have asked for 100m from Osiel, but they actually came up with amount and he paid it. Chino Antrax too. Designated a kingpin. There's also something to do with cooperation vs no cooperation. I have read the forfeiture documents they post them every week publically. They take a AP watch off some guy in Ontario CA, it's public.
DeleteVicente was so valuable, they put a billion on it for headlines and he gave them something-- but they probably waived it or something who knows? but they released his shell companies from the blacklist when he was out of custody.
Hahaha!! Quiere llorar!! Quiere llorar!!
ReplyDeleteAt the end the only real old school boss between Chapo , Mayo and ABL was el barbas . Went out how he lived .He really proved it at the end! Boss of bosses ArturoBeltranLeyva
ReplyDeleteasi es papuchon, amino viejos
DeleteBLO= T-Mobile managers
DeleteGive the old dude a medal and a reduced sentence
ReplyDeleteHe cleaned out the streets of weak minds
Lol jk
His money/power/employees helped cleanup 80% of Zacatecas. Love that man.
DeleteToo bad he cannot finish. Mas pendejos cada dia.
DeleteGtfoh
ReplyDelete14 BILLION IS CHILD'S PLAY FOR HIS LEVEL. LET'S GET FUCKEN REAL HERE.
ReplyDeleteNo it’s not😂, these guys made 1 billion and that is being generous.
DeleteYep… the whole thing is charades
DeleteIn Mexico 🇲🇽 it feels like 14 billion
Delete10:17 you're absolutely right. This fucker is probably worth a hundred billion dollars and has at least that in cash buried somewhere in Sinaloa. Guaranteed this fucker has so much FUCKING money that at some point it was just redundant. Sell dope, cover expenses, pay bribes, call plug for more dope, LOL. Then count the profits. This deal made 10 million along with the other 100 trucks that got through. There's a billion dollars right there and I think he probably put more than a hundred trucks through a month or even a week with how big the Sinaloa cartel is. Then you multiply that by how many hundreds get through per month and multiply by 12 months. Then multiply that shit by at least a decade and your talking about over $120 BILLION DOLLARS in ten years all bribes and liabilities covered. Then you add 4 more decades of trafficking Pryor to that and I would say he's got 14 billion dollars NO PROBLEM!
DeleteIf the prosecution is smart they will use the damasos and others already arrested to testify against mayo. Then you have no need to involve chapo or moreno. Two birds with one stone.
ReplyDeleteCant use them anymore theyve been used against chapo
DeleteObjection Your Honor! They will be using LIC and mini LIC pal. Hell they can bring his kids and brother to testify against him. The only person they CAN'T USE is his wife if he has one!
DeleteThis confirmed what I said before. This war on drugs that is being fought is only to make the U.S government richer. They make these captures for money. Nuff Said!!!
ReplyDeletey sii. mejor denle ese dinero a mexico para que se levante
DeleteThey take all their Money! But try to take Hillarys,Obama’s,Or Bidens! ( Wont happen) Ex presidents in the USA are untouchable
ReplyDeleteLet’s just take trumps money while we are at it huh? Oh nm I forgot he’s broke living off loans from inflated property values.
DeleteHillary was never president you mean Clinton? There was only one Obama and Biden. Forgot to throw in there bush Regan Trump.
Delete12:50 they were not shipping illegal drugs to USA.🤣😭
DeleteI bet you are Republican...
DeleteHow does the United States charge him for murders and kidnappings that happened in Mexico? I highly doubt they can tie any violence on this side to him. Obviously the govt is gonna have the twins, the damasos, ovidio and Joaquin testifying against him. Are they gonna say they personally saw him order murders and kidnappings with no bodies?
ReplyDelete@117 familiarize yourself with RICO laws and conspiracy. They don’t have to prove he directly participated.
DeleteWitnesses. The El Paso case is weaker. Lots of those guys are dead or missing or info is outdated. But guys like El Jaguar, they communicated directly with Chapo at least a few times.
DeleteAs for murders in Mexico, the structure is a CCE, so in furtherance of a drug trafficking conspiracy to traffic drugs into the US, the organizations killed rivals, to further the conspiracy/that goal of violating US law. That's how that works.
El pakas de a kilo was the true scarface more than 200 corridos and still counting and he backed those tales that were saying about him
ReplyDeleteEra Arturo Beltran?
DeleteArturo Beltran Leyva
DeleteLmao this reminds me when LeBaron family "sued" Juarez cartel
ReplyDeleteTake everything he has , and lock his ass up his days are counted anyway
ReplyDeleteBut if Mayo pays 14 billion, how will he get his gummy bears?
ReplyDeleteCHAPO ISIDRO IS KING AND WILL TAKE OVER SINALOA!
ReplyDeleteYou guys really think the USA is going to get there hands on 14 billion .They were never able to get chapo money .
ReplyDeleteSame USA story they looking like heroes but nothing change with Mayo being capture .Drugs are still
Being sent to the good old USA
If they let him go he will hand over whatever they want ..... MONEY TALKS PEOPLE DUH
DeleteShit if they told me to hand over 14 billion to let me go I would give em the 14 amd then tell em here is an extra billion to take ur families on vacation
DeleteThe $14 billion is actually Mayo's bail amount. His sicarios are out right now smuggling drugs, running prostitution rings, selling knockoff goods, tapping oil pipelines, extorting taco stands, etc, raising up the money to get the boss out of jail.
DeleteTheyre not going to get anything. Ask them how much of Chapo's money they got. Why don't they do the same with the alcohol companies and the tobacco companies that also sell poison.
ReplyDeleteAlcohol and tobacco are LEGAL, stupid!
DeleteIt’s legal, but still kills more people than all the illegal drugs the cartels sell. The wars we support all over the world, still more people die. Evil everywhere, legal or not.
DeleteOnly Mencho/Cuinis got that kind of Féria. Sinaloas always blowing shit up outta proportion smh
ReplyDelete14 billion is part of the discussions in his negotiations with the Feds MZ will never have a trial because he simply knows too much and has many friends in extremely high places in both DC and DF.
ReplyDeleteU know what is fuc-ed up is they don't want people making illicit money, but when they catch these drugs lords if they hand over millions or billions in this case then it's cool for the government to spend it .. that's the same thinh they are spending illicit money
ReplyDeleteAmlo should Taken off extradición and México should keep narcos money not the US
ReplyDeleteNo period, your such a nino.
DeleteWhy does the US charge them with cargues commited in México ground
ReplyDeleteDid Ivan just get captured??
ReplyDeletesinaloa fan boys punching in the air
ReplyDeletewill all this change the territories and plazas? Here's the most recent map I could find. https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1cuu1oq/map_of_drug_cartels_in_mexico_2024/?rdt=60345
ReplyDeleteIt is a classic US strategy to ensure they make as much, if not more, than the other big game players in the narcotics game...They already make un chingo de lana from the bails and bonds that precede the litigation that leads to the $14 billion mordido they are hoping to tag El Mayo with...they are the sickest society on earth with the highest addiction rates ever...They flood Mexico with guns, blame their problems on Mexico, and are profiteers at the expense of the health of their own population...Sick culture...que chingan sus leyes...pinche hypocritical pendejos
ReplyDeleteSorry they turned you down for a green card 😭
Delete14 billion. Just a smoke screen to use the law in a way to do more damage to Zambada.
ReplyDeleteI’m sure y’all know CDS, brings in their illegal product thru the Arizona desert, most of their stashes are in Arizona. This state is infested with BLUES. Most users are really young there. CDS is to blame for all that.
ReplyDeleteU.S. officials think that targeting out of country Drug Lords will stop USA drug use, drug smuggling and drug trafficking. Instead they should be doing drug prevention and helping their own drug addicts at home. USA will fail once again.
ReplyDeleteOnly 14 billion dollars !! After decades of being a global top boss in the illegal narcotics business he must be worth 15 to 20 times more than 14 billion dollars.
ReplyDeleteThese plazas are up for grabs now:
ReplyDelete+San Pedo del Tope
+Pinchetenango
+La Mamona
+Cacatitlan
+Ixtlahuaverga
+Los Jodidos
+Llenado de Putos
+El Grosero
+Santa Chichona de la Leche
+Las Cachondas
+Paso El Cabron
+Valle de La Nalgona
+San Culito de Joto
+Puerto Mierda de Burro
No pues wuau se ve que te encantan esas plazas, especial mente la del burro
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