From a CNN Exclusive Report
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The CIA is reviewing its authorities to use lethal force against drug cartels in Mexico and beyond as the Trump administration moves to make taking on the cartels a major priority for the intelligence agency, according to a US official and three people briefed on the matter.
The review does not indicate President Donald Trump has ordered the CIA to take direct action against the cartels. But it is designed to help the agency understand what kinds of activities it could legally undertake and what the potential risks would be across the suite of options, the sources said — underscoring how seriously the Trump administration is considering the possibility.
It also highlights some US officials’ concerns that using traditional counterterrorism tools against cartels — as the Trump administration has said it intends to do — carries a much higher risk of collateral damage to American citizens than similar operations conducted in the Middle East, far from US soil.
Among the issues agency lawyers are examining is the CIA’s and its officers’ liability if an American is accidentally killed in any operation, according to one of the people briefed.
Agency officials are “cautious” about using “assets traditionally going after what were seen as military targets now being employed against cartel targets,” the US official said.
The Trump administration earlier this year designated a number of cartels as foreign terrorist organizations — a maneuver some current and former US officials believe is designed to build a predicate for lethal action — and the CIA is already flying surveillance drones that are capable of being armed over Mexico.
The CIA declined to comment.
CNN was not able to determine whether the effort was ordered by the White House or CIA Director John Ratcliffe, or whether it was undertaken as a prudent planning measure by agency staff in response to clear signals from the Trump administration that it wants national security agencies to ramp up pressure on the cartels.
“If any administration is pushing us to do something that has potential significant adverse ramifications for the agency, [the CIA] is going to want to double and triple check: ‘Is it legal?’ and ‘Do we have extraordinarily clear policy direction to do what we’re going to do?’” said one former CIA official with experience building this kind of review.
“Just because something is legal under [the law of armed conflict] doesn’t mean it’s something you should do,” this person said, referring to protocols regulating the conduct of states during war. “There’s an ethical component. There’s a practical component. There’s a pragmatic component.”
CIA can use lethal force if authorized by president
The CIA has the legal authority to either conduct lethal strikes itself or provide targeting information or other support to another nation to carry out a lethal strike, as long as it’s properly authorized by the president and abides by the interlocking constellation of US laws and regulations that govern armed conflict.
But to do so against cartel actors in an area where there are, comparatively, far more US-born citizens and green card holders — people who might have the standing to sue the US government if they are harmed — is novel for the CIA.
“It’s not a question of whether they can or cannot use lethal force. They can,” said one of the people briefed on the review. “It’s more about the implications of Americans being potentially injured or killed based on their broader presence in the space.”
Collateral damage could also blow back on any partner nation that either allows the CIA to conduct direct action inside its borders or that accepts intelligence support from the agency to conduct its own lethal operations, the US official noted. If the CIA support creates a political problem for the partner nation — Mexico, for example — its government could refuse to allow the agency to operate there going forward.
Former officials have also warned about the risks of retaliation by cartels, some of which maintain a presence inside the United States.
“Mexican cartels are not merely criminal organizations; they operate as paramilitary entities with deep financial resources, global supply chains, and sophisticated logistical networks that extend into the United States,” Doug Livermore, a specialist in irregular warfare and a former Defense Department official, wrote in a recent study for the Atlantic Council, an international affairs think tank. “Cartels are highly likely to retaliate” and “possess a substantial capacity for terrorism that, when coupled with their established presence within the United States, could escalate conflict.”
One of the people briefed on the review said it reflected a deep institutional memory of the George W. Bush administration’s “enhanced interrogation” program, which lawmakers and the Obama administration subsequently deemed to be torture. In that instance, former officials said, the agency pushed its operations to the limit of what they believed the law could bear. Critics, of course, contend the agency and the administration went beyond what was legal, and in the years following, the CIA and its officers were put through a series of public and high-profile investigations into the propriety of their actions.
This sort of review, the people briefed on the matter said, reflects an understanding that the agency may be called to account for any action it takes against cartels — especially if there is blowback. And especially if the agency conducts operations that are ultimately seen as disproportionate to the threat from cartels — key criteria that lethal action must meet under the law of armed conflict.
The US intelligence community’s annual threat assessment, published last month, led with the threat from drug cartels for apparently the first time in the report’s nearly 20-year history. Many current and former national security officials, however, have repeatedly argued that while cartels are a serious problem, they are not an existential threat to the country.
“I think it’s very understandable that people are mindful of [the history of “enhanced interrogation”] to the extent that they actually don’t believe we’re in a crisis,” said one of the former officials.
Source CNN
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DeleteI'm the original FAFO post! nuff nonsense!
Delete8:53 you go girl!
DeleteBomb them back to the stone age!
ReplyDeleteDon’t overthink it, just do it, these low IQ morons are murderers and cowards, they’ll never stand up to drone strikes and/or targeted assasinations.
Your really are a stupid motherfucker that does not read shit!
DeleteRead where it says CIA can by accident cause a lawsuit if it were to kill a US citizen visiting Mexico who was in the wrong place at the wrong time or even US residents with family living in close proximity to cartel members.
You think you so smart but you simply come out racist as fuck dipshit.
Not about race, it's about low life criminals that rightfully should be sent to a meeting with allah. Take that you you ignorant motherfucker.
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DeleteObama broke that taboo, he ordered the assassination of Abdulrahman Anwar al-Awlaki who was a U.S. born terrorist, he also apologized for the unintentional deaths of other Americans who were killed during drone strikes he ordered, theres collateral damage in every conflict.
I’ve no doubt legal residents and American citizens (anchor babies) are cartel members, if they’re in a drug lab or heavily armed, wearing a combat vest playing soldier feeling like a bad arse, they’re fair game!
3:22;
DeleteChill out “Sir-over- react- a lot”.
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DeleteI must have read @156's comment too fast, because I flat-out missed the racist part..
They will be the next ISIS with constant bombardments on any blindada or convoy. Alv mugrosos
DeleteSure tuff guy 😂 that’s every white guys favorite line. cant do shit with out a gun
DeleteObama signed an executive order allowing drone strikes to be executed on American Citizens on American soil without due process or a court case if they are suspected to be involved in terrorism.
Delete3:22 right because CIA has never killed an American in foreign or domestic soil! You a dumb mofo!!
DeleteThat comment is as Crazy as when I dated a 50 year old woman. When I was 25 😂
DeleteIts more about bombing a drug lab in the city and hitting the retirement home of a american living next to it. This is the kind of lawsuits that nobody wants.
Delete9:55
DeleteWhat planet are you on.... Obama is no longer president...like hummmm many years ago.
7:10 racist for saying that just because they are cartel members they don't have a brain and wanting to bomb them without remorse.
DeleteSays an idiot whose country cannot control the drug epidemic which they themselves helped flourish and that makes these "low IQ morons" millions if not billions a year in profit.
@6:11 just like in the movie "The Untouchables" were liquor was processed in plain sight such as the US post office in Chicago many drugs in Mexico are also handled in places the average Mexican [not authorities] does not know they are being handled there.
DeleteThis would make drone strikes and other hands off military strikes just a display of over reach of military caused civilian deaths for an average Mexican might not know that the say auto parts store they are dealing with has drug dealers handling drugs in the back storage place of the store. The tons of Americans that travel to Mexico each year including white folk that are not anchor babies would not know the hotel they are staying in has drug dealers dealing shit behind their walls also.
It happens in Arab countries as well but since there are hardly any Americans allowed to travel to those countries to begin with and not that any American would readily want to nobody but Arabs care about the destruction America causes over there.
@1.56. Don't do no "Thinking", cos High-IQ individuals don't do none a that fancy ass shit. Our balls be so big and sweaty we don't need no brain. See, down beneet the border they be Low-IQ individuals. They cant stand up to asasinashans, cos they IQ be like fukn 4 or 70 or wotnot or sumshit. I don't know how it works, cos I never had a test. Or wotnot.
Delete@7.10. You missed the "racist" part because it's a dog whistle. Low IQ Individuals, Fatherless Urban Teens, Rootless Metropolitan Elites, it's all a cowards code that enables them to spit poison while pretending they're martyrs for free speech. It's funny man. Sad, but funny.
DeleteIf they can drone a dude hiding in a trench in Ukraine Billy big balls riding around in trucks wearing body armour should be easy work, and they thought he was too to busy right now, cute
ReplyDeleteFinally......
ReplyDeleteThis Trump from USA, is doing many things to infuriate many people in the world. He is doing to many things, rather quickly.
ReplyDeleteThe most recent Tartiffs, will cause inflation...then recession.
Deporting everyone without checking records, using El Salvador prison for Venezuelans, some that are not gang members. Paying El Salvador president $6 million of US tax dollars to house them 238 of them.
Cutting out Federal employees .
WTF is he trying to prove...that he is the best president that ever existed?
MAGA just keeps on winning lets goooooooo !
DeleteWhat happen to cheaper eggs? 😂 He's sure is winning Maga according to Fatass himself. He just won a trophy for golfing 😂
DeleteMAGA is giving major victories to China, Russia, and India. Notice the timing of this: Trump knows markets are down, inflation still up, so this is all to divert attention.
DeleteSpoken like a true demoRAT.
DeleteSee @2:03 has been watching MSNBC and /or CNN, he’s memorized their narrative word for word.
Delete5:12
DeleteIt's all over news outlets, not just the 2 channels you watch. Get a gripe.
505 take the left and right crap and get out of here. Your fearless leader is crashing to global economy because he's a idiot. Left and right has nothing to do with this. Donald Trump 100% the stupidest president of all time.
DeleteBefore the election, Trump told everyone what he was going to do.
DeleteEnough voters agreed, and now he is the President of the United States, doing what he said he would do.
This is called Democracy.
After 4 years, the process repeats.
12:21
DeleteHe said he would end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours. He never built the wall. He's deporting people at a slower rate than Biden.
Buy stock in companies that provide equipment to conduct waterboarding and enhanced interrogatios, you'll make a fortune!
ReplyDeleteDoes the Mexican military and police sell stock?
Delete@5.13. Same companies.
Delete"Target Acquired" - ATTE Commandantazo Naranja, Subcommandante Elotes Musk, and Pistolero Raton Ratcliffe
ReplyDeleteAllí en los montes, vuelan los reapers,
Drones en el cielo, buscando a los dealers.
Desde el norte, llega la ley,
Con tecnología, no hay donde esconderse.
En las ciudades, se escucha el rumor,
De operativos, y del gran temor.
Los federales, con su poder,
Persiguen a todos, sin retroceder.
Allí en los montes, vuelan los reapers,
La guerra sigue, entre sombras y gritos.
Desde el norte, llega la ley,
Con tecnología, no hay donde esconderse.
Embes de reapers. Los llamo el gordo chetos y su Jefe musk. Que reapers. Mejor canta que el viejo panson es un idiota. No sabe que rayo está hablando siempre. Deja de ver películas. Ese viejo panson no sabe lo que asé y el le vale. Solo quiere ser rico. Ya es todo su plan. Dar puros entrenamientos que es puro fantasía. Puro corrido. Ok te entiendo. Es corrido de un
Deletereaper panson y naranja que besa a su papá Putin. Dice sus seguidores, ese hombre es dios. Les ponen el fe en el. Hasta se arman por el. Un día un virus apareció. Su gente murieron por el.
Commadante Naranja😂😂😤😤
Deleteim sure this taskforce is going after Sicario 006 !!!
DeleteSicario006 for president!
DeleteWhat do you call narcorridos that are pro Trump? Trumporridos? This could be a big business! And you won't get your visa taken, shit you may even earn a gold card. Trompf es en nuevo SENORAZO. Trompf is King - ATTE Canner
DeleteWake up!! the cartel wars is just an excuse for USA invasion. Northern states have precious mineral mines
ReplyDeleteJust a distraction to ignore the real problem in the usa.
DeletePrecious minerals 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
DeleteIf it were true, they’d be mining them already.
Oil revenue has enriched middle eastern countries beyond their wildest dreams, they spread that wealth and their populations have benefited enormously. Their infrastructure, schools and medical facilities are among the best in the world. Mexico has Pemex, a total disaster of corruption, incompetence and fraud, it’s only benefited a few politicians and their corrupt buddies who fled to Europe or the United States.
Don’t know why morons insist on this “invasion” for resources nonsense. The Chinese (and others) bribed the Iraqis and Afghans, now THEY control their precious resources.
And you know what else northern Mexican states have….Millions of Mexicans…we don’t need or want them, Mexico can keep them.
lmao you guys are not smart
DeleteCIA Special Activities Center
ReplyDeleteGround Branch Operator Sicario 006 has already infiltrated the cartel. Once President Trump gives the green light its game over for Ivan ,Mencho and MF
006 has been an Agency asset this whole time?
Delete5:12 for further information see the site, pendejo.com.
DeleteThis is another thing that I have been telling everyone about. The U.S is preparing to drop bombs from drones into Mexico. The first wave of drones where just collecting intelligence. Basically making a huge list of targets. The CIA now knows where cartel stash houses, labs and equipment warehouses are located. The next thing they will do is test the Mexican president to see if she is faithful. They will tell her just one target to see if she handles the situation correctly. If the cartel members get tipped off by the Mexican government ahead of time now we know they can't be trusted. Next we will begin blasting the rest of the targets on our own. The phase after the blasting will be tanks and soldiers crossing the border to invade. Trump has been sending hundreds of thousand U.S troops to border the past two months. They are getting ready for the invasion. I will be part of this. I will personally take down the Mexican flags in plazas like Tijuana, Juarez and Matamoros and put up the U.S flag. Tijuana will be renamed to Nuffuana. My first new law in these new American states will be free diet pills for all women. Nuff Said!!!
ReplyDeleteShut up nuffs, you don't even know how to drive a tank!
DeleteGood man, Nuffster, and while you're fighting the bad guys down south, we'll keep an eye on Buffy for you..
DeleteThat's what bros DO for each other!!!
Nuffy please takes your meds, your behaving schizophrenic.
DeleteI'd love to have Nuffy and Sicario006 on my army !!! And Buffy as a lover !!!
Delete8:54
DeleteKeep dreaming, knucklehead, Buffy is 100% loyal to the Nuffmeister!
8:16am You are absolutely correct my friend. Buffy is very loyal to me. Only because she forgot to give me my meds one day doesn't mean otherwise. She was busy fighting vampires. Nuff Said!!!
DeleteAs usual, nuffy is full of shit. They’ve been playing reconnaissance drones along the border of Mexico since January. And even though they are armed, they are collecting intelligence dumbass. They are not preparing for a full scale invasion. You have to be the biggest moron on this planet. The only question I have is which one of the Journalist is Nuffy.
DeleteAnd if you think the CI doesn’t kill people around the world all the time regardless of ethnicity or country of origin, including the US you don’t know what’s going on in the world and what we’ve come too. Happens virtually every day.
Intelligence agencies constantly do these kinds of reviews. Especially if it’s in a threat assessment.
ReplyDeleteQuestion is why did someone whisper it to the press? Could be:
A. Just a loose cannon employee.
B. Pressure the Government of Mexico
C. Pressure targets the government is negotiating with to surrender now. “Hey we can pinpoint you any time we want. Did you see the news where the CIA is taking steps to launch a few tomahawks your way? Better get your ass to the border now with a guilty plea and a bunch of USB drives to hand over.”
Stupid U.S. drones no match for a cartel monster truck!
ReplyDeleteThe cartels WILL win, and kick the invading gabachos' asses, wait and see!
OK
DeleteDream on, minimum wage.
DeleteThe US soldiers have no experience on the style of combat on Mexico. The cartel have all the weapons US have plus monstruos, barretts and tunnels. SEDENA and SEMAR are much better suited for that kind of confrontation since they know the territory and their tactics. Imaginate un gabacho en un topón 😂😂😂😂
DeleteImage a stupid Mexican in the US if your country is the shit go back home
Delete8:34 Mexicano en Mexico con orgullo gabachito mamabicho. I'm proud of the glorious army and marina we have. Gente de honor and they are the ones that know how to ambush those bad boys. They just need a Blackhawk and all the malandros are dead. We need no cowards that will hide behind drones killing inocent people. They did nothing till now and will keep doing nothing but talking. No son las meras vergas? Pues que entre el gringo y le va a mamar.
Delete@7:34 are you 6yrs old ? My nephew has more sense than you can dream of .. listen to yourself talk and if you can identify your own stupidity well that just shows how stupid you are … listen up pendejo, I don’t care if they’re fighting in Mars or Mexico .. the cartels are no match for the Mexican military much less the US, if Mexico gave the go ahead the Mexican marina would crush the cartels in a week regardless of how many guns these guys have.. from what little we were able to see from the Culicanazo and seeing footage of Jaliscos and Viagras fighting in Michoacán, I can without worry bet my money that any half ass trained military can wipe off the cartels .. why is this even a question ?
DeleteYes, the incredibly advanced sophisticated and complex monster trucks of the Cartels Get a tomahawk missile up their ass from 50 miles away. They’ve got weapons that can compete with that right… What a freaking moron.
DeleteSpooks in the game.
ReplyDeleteSince when does the CIA ever care about the legalities of killing foreigners or any potential blowback.
ReplyDelete4:57
DeleteSince now, thanks to Trump all avenues are being extended.
Go after the cartels members and not after the innocent ones , cause we know how American government like to abuse when they are overseas or not in their country.
ReplyDeleteMientras no se pasen de Vrg con los inocentes está bien , porque ya ven como son los gringos cuando están en países extranjeros.
ReplyDeleteSiempre es genocidio cuando EEUU empieza una guerra. Esto todos lo saben.
DeleteHere is a novel idea: Lets Pressure and force that "our" American:
ReplyDelete1. Drug addicts, 2. Pimps and Whores, 3. Banks, 4. Real Estate entities, 5. Politicians , and Casinos (Las Vegas esp) STOP DOING BUSINESS WITH MEXICAN NARCO_CARTELS.
Just think if our: pot, meth, heroin, fentanyl addicts went clean; Pimps and whores took a long break; banks and real estate stopped doing business with Narco-cartels; politicians (their go-between minions) stopped their mutually beneficial activities; ....And,what "if" narco-cartel minions were identified and arrested, sent to El Salvador for visiting the great money laundering entity that is Las Vegas?
In short, narco-cartels are profiting from customers.... as suggested above. Put the hurt on the money supplies....See what happens!
Mexico-Watcher
Pimp & 'Ho Lives Matter
DeleteToday I woke up, with a sprain left 🦵 leg. Must be that I am getting old, perhaps arthritis.
Delete7:55
DeleteRheumatism, foo, walk it off.
11:06
DeleteHumm bug .🤔
I walked Lily a Toy Poodle.
I walked Perin a mixed Terrier.
Low and behold my sprain vanished, you said walk it off, are you a doctor?
Veterinarian
DeleteI told yall trump was not playing you cartel scum better run and hide! 😤
ReplyDeleteThat's funny. Who do you think helps the Cartels, with financing, training for their sicarios, drugs, weapons etc? You guessed it! The CIA.
ReplyDeleteCIA, Kaibiles, Colombians... Money can buy you the best training in the world, and the cartel has lots of money.
DeleteSince when did we think twice about taking out repeated klllers- mass murderers of American citizens? We stormed countries for lesser, albeit selfish, reasons. Lets clear 100 miles of the mex frontera of all that scum, just like WE armed israel to do in gaza.
ReplyDeleteThey want the Mexican Lithium.
ReplyDeletevery nice.
DeleteYea, they need a massive source of lithium for Elon's new UBI Idiocracy cars for 2030. Lithium for all the 15 minute cars and for the UBI-citizens' brains.
DeleteI'm wondering how long those american soldiers would survive Zacatecas.
ReplyDeleteain't gonna be no gringo boots on the ground, foo, dis be ASSYMETRICAL warfare.
DeleteOnly a week or two, just long enough to get rid of the scumbags.
DeleteIt wouldn't take long I'm gonna say a week before they get the job done and get out, The local ordinary people will do nothing to hide these scum
DeleteCan they blow up that turd Sicario 069 first.
ReplyDeleteSleep well,Cartel Scum and those who idolize!!🇲🇽💀🇲🇽💀🇲🇽💀🇲🇽💀🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 them
ReplyDeleteCIA is so cute. They were just waiting for the most ethical way to operate. "Hey Mr Orange can we kill?" Cuties.
ReplyDeleteAs opposed to the cartels asking “ Hey President Sheimbaum, can we kill” ?
DeleteOff-topic, but it looks like your girl Claudia caved on trumpy tariffs 😟
ReplyDeleteLooks like she's doing a great job at navigating this storm.
Delete9:07 Not really, no period kid. 😭
DeleteYeah what’s the Score Now Trump Vs Shine Prada????🇺🇸🇲🇽🙀
DeleteEn las negociaciones para bombardear a los narcos se rumorea que Sheinbum les advirtió a los americanos, que el mexicano ciudadano será protegido de la violencia con la simple frase de que “aquí no pasa nada”.
ReplyDeleteStart droning this cartel groups. The cartels are basically the cancer of Mexico.
ReplyDeleteThis cannot be said enough. Mexico was set to be one of the best countries on the planet before it became cartel-world.
Delete@5:12 SON MAS PUTOS SE PASAN DE MAMA VERGAS HAHAHA
ReplyDeleteNot my heckin beanereenos.
ReplyDeleteCIA is the cartel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteNo.
DeleteLooks like your bedtime, burro con suena.
DeleteFinally. It's about time someone does something about the drug cartels.
ReplyDeleteDid they get Ivan
ReplyDeleteYou're in Trump Land now amigo!
ReplyDeleteTrump is playing with China, he imposed 43% Tartiffs on goods coming in from China, China
ReplyDeletePping Ming Ling said oh yeah we do 43% too,
Trump said oh yeah if you don't drop it by Wednesday (today), I will impose 40,% on top of the 43%...it's in all the news, Trump is playing with fire.
Trump is doing business Trump’s way, Academy Award Material, Emmy. No we do not want Elon Musk’s Atty to take over Ken Paxton’s job. Ken loses to John Coryn I hope. Texas will turn Blue.
DeleteWMD: Weapon of Mass Distraction
ReplyDeleteWMD's are everywhere. TV, media, movies, and now youtube, tictok, facebook, etc.
Delete5:49 yeah but you think any of those are more impactful or powerful than the WH?
DeleteAll this so the fent can continue to flourish. American soldiers will get shot bye guns sold bye us citizens HELL YEA! Ⓜ️
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DeleteMidget Mijo get some sleep, I going to tell your mom.